| different people have different opinion so you're not the only one who likes old stuff |
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| Since when all new art has been same thing as naruto art? You should watch stuff like fate/zero |
| No, take a look into this club here on MAL, you'll find that there are other people out there who appreciate the older anime. Simply join and feel free to discuss with those who share the same interests in older anime. |
| The title is rhetorical right? Nobody is this stupid. |
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| You're making generalizations of older art and animation as well as generalizations of newer art and animation. Remember, animating techniques were different, and in many ways much less efficient than most digital techniques we have today. A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, and if you think that looks better then good on you, but you opinion shouldn't be influenced by generalizations. |
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| I like older hand drawn stuff, i think it holds up to time better than digital. The problem for me is the encode quality that you find much of older hand drawn anime in. |
| So your idea of newer art is Naruto? Haha, wow. |
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| LOL Dude, old anime is shit, art and otherwise. Please take off those rose-tinted glasses. |
| What do you think you're piloting? Great Mazinger? Dangaioh? For Pete's sake, this isn't some robot cartoon whose main character is an autistic kid or some punk. - Kiichi Goto, Mobile Police Patlabor |
| No, there's also this guy: http://myanimelist.net/profile/plusme |
| That's how it is. Old Generations is ALWAYS better than the generation today. I prefer this generation though. Can't stand the old anime art. |
UrotsukidojiGore said: Litrydow said: So your idea of newer art is Naruto? Haha, wow. I don't like Naruto so I don't know exactly when it came out. By new I meant from within the last 10 years. When naruto started to run it was more than 10 year old from these days I can't take this thread seriously. Why need to have as example some anime that most of ppl agree it doesn't have good art? Have u seen anime like fmab? Steingate? |
Chill_Mar 10, 2013 1:49 PM
| I love newer animation, but that's what I grew up on(Naruto and Bleach[not exactly new but you know what I mean]) I don't like older art. I'm only 14 so that's probably why. |
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| Naruto first published in 1999 and it's anime first aired in 2002, it's been well over 10 years since it began. Same goes for Bleach. Also, I'm thinking you're a troll since you're not accepting anything anyone who disagrees with you says (in that last thread you made). While I'm on that, why do you make two threads which can be discussed in the same damn thing? |
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toybox said: LOL Dude, old anime is shit, art and otherwise. Please take off those rose-tinted glasses. Not sure if you are joking since so many high rated anime on your list are pre 2000 series such as city hunter, Rose of Versailles, Outlaw Star, and Master Keaton |
| Of course you're not the only one. There are a lot of people who prefer the older art just as there are many who prefer the newer stuff. To me art is one of the least important things in an anime and I like both new and old art. I won't not watch an anime just because of its art style. |
UrotsukidojiGore said: For me the good old hand drawn stuff beats out the digital crap. I hcan't be the only one who thinks Naruto looks like crap with it's awful character design. I like anime from all periods hell I'll watch anything from Gegege no Kitaro to monster but I prefer the older stuff myself. You are not the only one but this is lolworthy no matter where does it come from. Well, maybe not but I'm just totally into having this absurd discussion again. |
| A quick use of the search function would have told you that there were countless people like you before opening countless threads like this one. Old vs New is almost as popular as Sub vs Dub. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
UrotsukidojiGore said: If he did then it's not because of the topic, it's because of him.DateYutaka said: iv made alot of thread on this subject to Did you get flamed as bad? |
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| As much as I prefer old over new I don't mind the CGI in newer anime as long as they're not overused. One of the problem I have with modern anime is that artists these days dont know how to draw women anymore. I'm just tired of those moeblob girls that all look the same. Erenle said: A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, No. Not quite true. Digital animations were created by computers while physical cel animations were hand crafted. There is quite a difference between them. |
nekovisionMar 10, 2013 3:52 PM
| in terms of art it doesnt matter for me, im more interested in characters and story, the problem in modern digital graphics is that it opens so many opportunities that characterization and plot lose their primary importance, thats why i prefer old movies, not because of their art, but because of more deep storytelling, not just throwing some flashy fights |
nekovision said: Erenle said: A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, No. Not quite true. Digital animations were created by computers while physical cel animations were hand crafted. There are quite a difference between them. Didn't some guy use to spend a lot of time explaining that basically the content is still hand-drawn in most of modern anime, no matter if the colouring and animation are now computer-based? |
jal90 said: nekovision said: Erenle said: A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, No. Not quite true. Digital animations were created by computers while physical cel animations were hand crafted. There are quite a difference between them. Didn't some guy use to spend a lot of time explaining that basically the content is still hand-drawn in most of modern anime, no matter if the colouring and animation are now computer-based? And you can say the same thing about most Pixar and DreamWork's 3D movies as well. Animators had to first design and draw their characters on papers first with different poses and perspectives before finally scan them to computer and construct 3D objects out of them. http://www.awn.com/articles/production/iopen-seasoni-diary-2d-3d-character-design-and-rigging/page/1%2C1 The same goes to most american 2d flash animations as well. In fact, most of the modern made Japanese anime are rather similar to American 2D flash animations. They all use software tools to scan drawing papers and generate frames. It doesn't matter it's 2D or 3D. CG is CG. This video shows that in-between of modern anime were computer generated. |
nekovisionMar 10, 2013 4:10 PM
| Old art was drawn on MS Paint using the mouse. |
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| I like both. The old art just makes me think of the old days and gives me that childhood feeling, the new art on the other hand can be freaking awesome and it's just like a refreshment. |
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Litrydow said: Old art was drawn on MS Paint using the mouse. That's probably true for some of the anime made in the early 2000s. They were using similar software tools not MSpaint though. If you look back at the production of some of the beauty and detail design of 80s/90s anime. You'll see that hand drawn and painted cel is MORE than just scanning papers and lining vectors with modern software tools. |
nekovision said: As much as I prefer old over new I don't mind the CGI in newer anime as long as they're not overused. One of the problem I have with modern anime is that artists these days dont know how to draw women anymore. I'm just tired of those moeblob girls that all look the same. Erenle said: A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, No. Not quite true. Digital animations were created by computers while physical cel animations were hand crafted. There is quite a difference between them. Yeah, exactly. Having a little bit CGI is totally okay, just don't overuse it. To me, sometimes it makes it seem less realistic with too much CGI... |
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UrotsukidojiGore said: nekovision said: As much as I prefer old over new I don't mind the CGI in newer anime as long as they're not overused. One of the problem I have with modern anime is that artists these days dont know how to draw women anymore. I'm just tired of those moeblob girls that all look the same. Erenle said: A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, No. Not quite true. Digital animations were created by computers while physical cel animations were hand crafted. There is quite a difference between them. I dont mind a bit of CGI either it just doesn't impress me. Actually. When I said "CGI" I was referring to 3D objects and computer FX effects they used in anime. The rest of the 2D stuff like character in modern anime were computer colored so you may likely to call them CG too. XD Here's a comparison between physical cel animations and digital animations. I personally prefer the more organic and warmer looking cel over plastic and clean looking digital animations. My personal opinion though. |
nekovision said: UrotsukidojiGore said: nekovision said: As much as I prefer old over new I don't mind the CGI in newer anime as long as they're not overused. One of the problem I have with modern anime is that artists these days dont know how to draw women anymore. I'm just tired of those moeblob girls that all look the same. Erenle said: A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, No. Not quite true. Digital animations were created by computers while physical cel animations were hand crafted. There is quite a difference between them. I dont mind a bit of CGI either it just doesn't impress me. Actually. When I said "CGI" I was referring to 3D objects and computer FX effects they used in anime. The rest of the 2D stuff like character in modern anime were computer colored so you may likely to call them CG too. XD Here's a comparison between physical cel animations and digital animations. I personally prefer the more organic and warmer looking cel over plastic and clean looking digital animations. My personal opinion though. I liked the 1984-1990 side myself. Just looks like it has more personality ya know? |
UrotsukidojiGore said: For me the good old hand drawn stuff beats out the digital crap. I hcan't be the only one who thinks Naruto looks like crap with it's awful character design. I like anime from all periods hell I'll watch anything from Gegege no Kitaro to monster but I prefer the older stuff myself. .... Why in the world is Naruto an example... You do realize Naruto doesn't even follow the guidelines of anime graphics right? They got their own style.. please try again |
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| New or old. Doesn't matter to me, the important part is that it's good. I find it to be a bigger problem with all those series with moe. So many girls. AArrrghhhh! |
nekovision said: UrotsukidojiGore said: nekovision said: As much as I prefer old over new I don't mind the CGI in newer anime as long as they're not overused. One of the problem I have with modern anime is that artists these days dont know how to draw women anymore. I'm just tired of those moeblob girls that all look the same. Erenle said: A lot of modern anime still uses traditional animation techniques, No. Not quite true. Digital animations were created by computers while physical cel animations were hand crafted. There is quite a difference between them. I dont mind a bit of CGI either it just doesn't impress me. Actually. When I said "CGI" I was referring to 3D objects and computer FX effects they used in anime. The rest of the 2D stuff like character in modern anime were computer colored so you may likely to call them CG too. XD Here's a comparison between physical cel animations and digital animations. I personally prefer the more organic and warmer looking cel over plastic and clean looking digital animations. My personal opinion though. I don't mean to be rude, but that's a pretty poor example since detailed shading and multi-tone colors weren't even the standard in old anime. It's more common than today, but by all means even old tv anime had flat coloring and simple shading. Also, like I said earlier, it's more on an aesthetic thing as well. The Girl Who Leapt Through Time for instance has a simple, flat color scheme because that's what the director intended. |
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