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Dec 16, 2012 12:01 AM
#51
RyanSaotome said: Madoka was an exception since that show was and is insanely popular. Girls und Panzer isn't Madoka. It doesn't have the same fanbase that Madoka has so it has a harder time attracting fans to buy stuff for it.Didn't hurt Madoka. And I would think that having new episodes later on would spark some newfound interest in people buying BDs that they might not have had previously. |
Dec 16, 2012 12:03 AM
#52
AiCon said: One guess is that the studio, Actas, being a weak studio may hamper its ability to negotiate a timeslot for the broadcast but I am not sure how true it is. And if Mizushima decides that he might as well make use of the delay to put in more changes he wants, he may actually even desire a later broadcast date.symbv said: I assumed by your statement that there wasn't any timeslot available on it's regular airtime. That's why I suggested that it air both episodes at another timeslot.And I am not too sure what is the difference between 1 hour special and broadcast of 2 episodes. What I said there may be no timeslot for the 2 episodes, I already assumed that even a 1-hour special timeslot is not available. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 16, 2012 12:10 AM
#53
symbv said: Actas should have the upper hand since the show is popular and would attract advertisers. Still, 3 months for only 2 episodes is simply too long. They should at least include additional episodes to air with it.One guess is that the studio, Actas, being a weak studio may hamper its ability to negotiate a timeslot for the broadcast but I am not sure how true it is. And if Mizushima decides that he might as well make use of the delay to put in more changes he wants, he may actually even desire a later broadcast date. |
Dec 16, 2012 12:19 AM
#54
AiCon said: It does not work that way. All midnight anime got low rating, so there is not really much plus for the TV station to change its schedule to fit in some sudden request to change the broadcast schedule. I guess you have not seen much midnight anime live on Japan TV? The advertisement is really limited and most of them seem to come from members in the production committee anyway.Actas should have the upper hand since the show is popular and would attract advertisers. Still, 3 months for only 2 episodes is simply too long. They should at least include additional episodes to air with it. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 16, 2012 12:22 AM
#55
symbv said: Why not make it an ONA like Seitokai no Ichizon Lv.2? Airtime wouldn't be a problem then.It does not work that way. All midnight anime got low rating, so there is not really much plus for the TV station to change its schedule to fit in some sudden request to change the broadcast schedule. I guess you have not seen much midnight anime live on Japan TV? The advertisement is really limited and most of them seem to come from members in the production committee anyway. |
Dec 16, 2012 12:32 AM
#56
AiCon said: Indeed this is one option fans in Japan raise. Of course it still needs negotiation, only this time it is with Nico Douga. Not sure how much easier for a weak studio like Actas on this front though. Why not make it an ONA like Seitokai no Ichizon Lv.2? Airtime wouldn't be a problem then. jmal said: Hard to tell whether "the staff" is singular or plural I guess, at least to me."Staff" is being used as a plural noun, inclusive of the whole team. It takes a team to succeed and a team to fail. I wasn't referencing or thinking about that old tweet either. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 16, 2012 12:33 AM
#57
Meruru_Arls said: RyanSaotome said: What does Sentai have to do with anything? lol...that is one of the producers for this show. No they only license anime for the Western audience they have nothing to do with the anime production itself. -___- @ Topic: don't affect me since I'm not watching so I don't care. Must suck for the fans though. xD |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Dec 16, 2012 12:42 AM
#58
Roloko said: Meruru_Arls said: RyanSaotome said: What does Sentai have to do with anything? lol...that is one of the producers for this show. No they only license anime for the Western audience they have nothing to do with the anime production itself. -___- @ Topic: don't affect me since I'm not watching so I don't care. Must suck for the fans though. xD I don't understand. I thought the dubs in general suck a$$ compared to raw/subs. |
"I left everything I own in One Piece" ~ Gol D. Roger |
Dec 16, 2012 12:43 AM
#59
symbv said: If they didn't have a hit show like Girls und Panzer I would understand, but they do have a popular show so it shouldn't be that difficult to get Nico Douga to accept.AiCon said: Indeed this is one option fans in Japan raise. Of course it still needs negotiation, only this time it is with Nico Douga. Not sure how much easier for a weak studio like Actas on this front though.Why not make it an ONA like Seitokai no Ichizon Lv.2? Airtime wouldn't be a problem then. Roloko said: It certainly does:(@ Topic: don't affect me since I'm not watching so I don't care. Must suck for the fans though. xD |
Dec 16, 2012 12:49 AM
#60
jmal said: How could such an advanced country like Japan be so behind when it comes to these sort of things? I do see your point though. It certainly would ruin the show if the picture were that bad.symbv said: AiCon said: Indeed this is one option fans in Japan raise. Of course it still needs negotiation, only this time it is with Nico Douga. Not sure how much easier for a weak studio like Actas on this front though.Why not make it an ONA like Seitokai no Ichizon Lv.2? Airtime wouldn't be a problem then. ONAs suck because Japan still hasn't figured out how to stream things in tolerable quality. Not sure what's so hard about it, CR's streams look great, but oh well. High speed tank battles would look really bad with mediocre resolution and high compression. Imagine how episode 9 in the dark and driving snow would have turned out... so yeah, if the option is a quicker ONA or a slower TV broadcast, I guess I'd take the latter because we know we're waiting a long time either way. Sure I'll be buying the BD regardless, but that won't be out for months afterward. jmal said: Isn't it that Japanese doesn't differentiate between singular or plural nouns?Hard to tell whether "the staff" is singular or plural I guess, at least to me. One would usually use something like "staff member" to indicate singular. |
Dec 16, 2012 1:14 AM
#61
Dec 16, 2012 1:38 AM
#62
Okay why am I getting the feeling that I've seen this bit before. Oh wait they sort of did this sort of thing with the Saki Side A Chapter, but made the last few epsidoes into OVAs for some odd reason. On an up side at least I'll be able to no longer deal with that one sub groups excuse of adding German lingo when it's not even used by the cast at all though. :3 |
Dec 16, 2012 1:59 AM
#63
Dec 16, 2012 2:00 AM
#64
On the bright side, at least I have time to catch up. But seriously, three fucking months!? |
Dec 16, 2012 2:38 AM
#65
Kid-Wolf said: There is no odd reason, and the situation is different for Saki Side A. For Saki Side A the reason is on the series composition, the whole story was deemed to be too much to fit in the 12 episodes in 1 cour, so they decided that it will be a 15 episodes but the problem was to find a way to broadcast the last 3 episodes. And such decision (of having 15 episodes instead of 12 episodes) should have been taken right at the beginning of the season. The only odd thing is why they chose to make it known that it will be a 15 episode series only later. Okay why am I getting the feeling that I've seen this bit before. Oh wait they sort of did this sort of thing with the Saki Side A Chapter, but made the last few epsidoes into OVAs for some odd reason. On the other hand, GirlPan was planned to be a 12 episode series and it is still planned to have 12 episodes. The delay was caused by the inability of the director and the studio to deliver the anime by the scheduled broadcast time. In Saki Side A's case, there has been no delay of airing of any episode for the first 12 episodes. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 16, 2012 3:30 AM
#66
Dec 16, 2012 3:46 AM
#67
No-one considered it may be a delay to change the ending to set up a season 2? I doubt they would have expected the popularity it seems to be getting. |
Dec 16, 2012 4:06 AM
#68
socialanimeguy said: More like the other way round. The two delays were all announced at a late stage so it does not look preplanned. And delaying the anime for almost 3 months runs serious risk of upsetting the TV stations that broadcast the show and the anime fans. As I said, delay the end for so long is never heard of and it is partly because it is not really an acceptable practice for fans and sponsors alike.No-one considered it may be a delay to change the ending to set up a season 2? I doubt they would have expected the popularity it seems to be getting. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 16, 2012 4:10 AM
#69
Wow, that really sucks. I like this show a lot and I was looking forward to seeing the Tiger I tank (found in the bowels of the ship) in action in the later episodes. |
Dec 16, 2012 4:12 AM
#70
Well, that sucks... a lot. |
Dec 16, 2012 4:22 AM
#71
Well atleast it gives me time to catch up with the series, but it gives me something to look forward to in March. |
As it turns out, living was a punishment... |
Dec 16, 2012 4:26 AM
#72
2 recaps on a 12 ep series. And then a 3 month delay. SO MUCH WIN. : / |
Dec 16, 2012 4:34 AM
#73
Dec 16, 2012 4:44 AM
#74
Dec 16, 2012 4:58 AM
#75
I'm sad... but well I trust the staff, I hope we'll have better episode. I see on ANN that the director Mizushima "thinks that the end of episode 12 is not the end of the whole story." Maybe they delay the episodes beucase of that... Writed on his blog : http://blog.goo.ne.jp/mizshima1941/e/8c0b3d10579d26c232ef4999031bd95e |
Dec 16, 2012 5:33 AM
#76
lionheart04 said: Hey, it would be very fitting in case of HxH ;)Wow I don't watch this show but if this happens to Magi or Hunter X Hunter I might subject myself to kicking nearby cats in the street Kid-Wolf said: They had good reasons in case of Achiga. Most importantly, anime caught up with manga. Furthermore they fully used up their timeslot for broadcast with episodes advancing the plot. Actually, chapter with material for episode 13 of Achiga came out this week. There's a rumor about those episodes being longer than average too. Nothing wrong here.On an up side at least I'll be able to no longer deal with that one sub groups excuse of adding German lingo when it's not even used by the cast at all though. :3 On the other hand, Girls und Panzer... First, they are unable to finish episode 06 in time. Second, they notice how popular their anime is, suddenly feel ashamed of low quality (I don't think there's anything bad with visual side but whatever) and decide to delay last episodes. Even then, 10 will supposedly be low quality. Third, they decide to change the plot so that it's easier to make S2. To be honest, comparing GuP to Madoka irritates me. Madoka's delay was much shorter (one month instead of three) and changes in plot were forced by circumstances in Japan (tsunami was supposed to come with Walpurgisnacht) not just a will to make more money by creating next season. |
Dec 16, 2012 6:33 AM
#77
I guess there's no rush to catch up with this series then. |
There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
Dec 16, 2012 6:50 AM
#78
Dec 16, 2012 7:20 AM
#79
Progeusz said: Not sure how you got the idea that they feel ashamed of low quality. From the announcement, the feeling I got is that they decided to boost up the number of cuts and this contributes to a lot to delay. It is not as if they have something already and feel ashamed of its quality as the animation of those episodes are probably not yet completed. What I got is that they want to make the quality even better and this causes the problem of not being able to meet the deadline (and indeed this points to some serious issue with the resource management and how the desire to create the best output be balanced with the resource constraint).Second, they notice how popular their anime is, suddenly feel ashamed of low quality (I don't think there's anything bad with visual side but whatever) and decide to delay last episodes. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 16, 2012 9:31 AM
#80
Dec 16, 2012 10:10 AM
#81
Dec 16, 2012 11:38 AM
#82
Way to finish off already dismal show. Do they outsource animation to Sokoto or something? |
Dec 16, 2012 12:09 PM
#83
Well if the delay is for improving the quality I'm looking forward to it. And he even mentioned a season 2. Would be awesome if they make one. Really like the show :D |
Dec 16, 2012 12:33 PM
#84
What a shame, I was going to see him as soon as I get rid of other series in vision. But maybe I should wait before starting to watch it. |
Dec 16, 2012 12:35 PM
#85
I really hated the first episode and I would have never imagined that I would be kinda sad about an announcement like that. You know...I really felt terrible for Miho at the beginning because she basically got forced in doing all that by very mean methods, what really gave me bad memories about war and stuff. But the show really got better to me, it's still by far not one of my favorites this season, but still enjoyable. So it clearly sucks that we'll have to wait that long for the final episodes! But maybe they really do change the ending significantly so that there will be a season 2 sometime. Because only that kind of work could take that long. Well, I'll just wait...what else can I do anyway? XD |
Dec 16, 2012 12:40 PM
#86
I really enjoy girls und panzer so sad that it's getting delayed. |
Dec 16, 2012 1:24 PM
#87
Roloko said: Amarrez said: CordellXXX said: Anime sucks ass anyway. No one cares about your shit taste in anime. Well he does have a valid point two recaps in a 12 episode anime is complete bullshit hell even one recap in a one cour series is unacceptable in my eyes so therefore I will have to agree with this poster. I'd prefer if this series had more realistic character designs instead of loli ones then I probably would have been a bit interested and actually watch this series, but I still probably wouldn't like it cause recaps kill my score. Its not about what you want. its about what the FANS want. Now stay on topic. |
"I left everything I own in One Piece" ~ Gol D. Roger |
Dec 16, 2012 1:28 PM
#88
Volume 6 BD now ranks higher than volumes 4 & 5 on amazon.co.jp and all are still doing well though lower than the Nekomonogatari and Ookami juggernauts. |
Dec 16, 2012 2:11 PM
#89
i think they are going to remake the ending of the series seeing as the ratings for the show were far better than they expected most likely in order to make sure that more seasons can come to pass in the near future it is a good possibility seeing instead of the standard 1 week delay they wouldned a whole 3 months to make the changes |
Dec 16, 2012 2:53 PM
#90
I'm not going to watch this then. Dropping it for now, maybe on the off-chance I'll try again. |
Dec 16, 2012 3:53 PM
#91
Peorthmegami said: Correction, what they found was not a Tiger I (Henschel Tiger) it was a Porsche Tiger or Tiger (P)Wow, that really sucks. I like this show a lot and I was looking forward to seeing the Tiger I tank (found in the bowels of the ship) in action in the later episodes. it was the competing design for the Tiger (with substantially different layout and design) that was not selected in the end and thus strictly remain prototype/limited test run... only 1 Tiger (P) iirc was ever sent to front line for combat as a command tank, the rest were converted into Ferdinand or also known as the Elefant tank destroyer. |
Dec 16, 2012 8:28 PM
#92
It's always interesting how the highest selling shows are the ones that suffer delays. This, Bakemonogatari, Madoka... |
Dec 17, 2012 2:01 AM
#94
Dec 17, 2012 3:20 AM
#95
Damn! I liked this show so it sucks to wait so long. :( |
Dec 17, 2012 7:51 AM
#96
hpulley said: Volume 6 BD now ranks higher than volumes 4 & 5 on amazon.co.jp and all are still doing well though lower than the Nekomonogatari and Ookami juggernauts. Volume 1 has finally passed Ookami so it looks like that movie is finally starting to cool off after its initial ranking. |
Dec 17, 2012 8:07 AM
#97
Wow, that's beat. I picked this up after 6-7 episodes had already aired and was actually enjoying it. At least the recap is going to be there so I can watch both of those episodes in March instead of all 10 again. |
Dec 17, 2012 10:36 AM
#99
The more I think about this, the more I think this is probably redoing the ending to make a possibility for a 2nd season. Nobody really expected it to be a good seller (2ch preseason estimates were like 3.5k), so they probably planned for it to be a one and done with a conclusive ending... Well, thats only thing I can think of that would cause it to be delayed almost 3 months, at least. |
Dec 17, 2012 10:56 AM
#100
The fires of hell know no rage like mine |
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