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Oct 30, 2012 2:39 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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This chapter was not as good as what I expected. I was hoping for a really good battle here, and it wasn't the case.
Though I enjoyed the relation between Zoro and Tashigi.
Oct 30, 2012 2:48 AM
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oda why are you doing this shit to me? tashigi who got her ass kicked by vergo and law in less than 5 sec stood a chance against one of doflamingo's subordinate that was a logia on top of that? and she even finished her off? how does that even work? seeing as zoro's attack didn't have any haki, so in the end last week's pathetic attacks and one slash from tashigi finished her off? WHY? so much for her "determination"
and zoro, so he's like sanji? that's awful, I thought he would cut anything.
That seriously was half assed, from tashigi actually standing a chance to zoro showing that he's a lot more stronger than monet, I don't know what to expect from the next fights anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if usopp finishes off doflamingo.
Oct 30, 2012 2:50 AM
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Fuckin' A.

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oda why are you doing this shit to me? tashigi who got her ass kicked by vergo and law in less than 5 sec stood a chance against one of doflamingo's subordinate that was a logia on top of that? and she even finished her off? how does that even work? seeing as zoro's attack didn't have any haki, so in the end last week's pathetic attacks and one slash from tashigi finished her off? WHY? so much for her "determination"


Dude, do you even read the manga? She was clearly going to lose and only Zoro's intervention managed to save her. Also, Zoro left her the final blow because he wanted her to do something worthwhile and because she wouldn't think of herself as useless and weak. In a few words, he did it because of her determination.
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Oct 30, 2012 2:50 AM
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You can't have a good battle when Zoro is fighting. HE TOO GOOD!

Anyways, Zoro x Tashigi development? o.O
Oct 30, 2012 3:00 AM
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Good to see Tashigi & Zoro together and he was just way too strong for Monet, too bad the "fight" was so short.
Oct 30, 2012 3:04 AM
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Loved this chapter a lot!

Tashigi+Zoro interactions were nice...and I'm glad Oda didn't drag this fight too much.

Zoro was complete BA, how he cut her without Haki just to make her fear him. I knew he could've dealt with her easily if he wanted to ;D

Though, I would've liked for Monet to be a little stronger. Well, I think she's strong enough. It's just that Zoro is too strong XD

It seems Sanji really understands Zoro the best XD
Also when Sanji said he would rather die than hit a women he looked BOSS :D
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Oct 30, 2012 3:45 AM
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Ah, Zoro was kinda tsundere.

Glad that snow woman cut off there.
Oct 30, 2012 3:48 AM
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did zoro just use conqueror haki cos that's the only way i can explain Monet being so scared she cant put herself back together. Its not as strong as Luffies but i still think its conqueror haki.
Oct 30, 2012 3:49 AM
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Seriously man, fear is a great weapon and Zoro utilized it amazingly.
Didn't even used haki but she was so freaked out it took her a bit to get out of that state of shock!

BADASS.
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Oct 30, 2012 3:55 AM

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Adviel said:
did zoro just use conqueror haki cos that's the only way i can explain Monet being so scared she cant put herself back together. Its not as strong as Luffies but i still think its conqueror haki.



Nah, completely different but yet so familiar. Conqueror's Haki kind of displays your power but makes those not as strong as you succumb to it by passing out or feeling the intense pressure, or control living things by showing who is "boss" so to speak.

Zoro displayed his power to en-still fear into his enemy. Where as the Conquerer's Haki people either just pass out or feel their incredible presence, Zoro uses fear to make people tremble to him and feel as though they are powerless against him. In a way he screws with them mentally with his brutal and crazy power. Where Conquerer's Haki just overpowers those with a weaker spirit then the person using it.

Something along those lines anywho.
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Oct 30, 2012 3:55 AM

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I was expecting Tashigi to defend Mone, but luckily it didn't happen.
They finally cut her to bits!

Zoro is a BAMF in this chapter. He just utilized fear, not even using Haki.
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Oct 30, 2012 4:07 AM

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Ragix said:
Adviel said:
did zoro just use conqueror haki cos that's the only way i can explain Monet being so scared she cant put herself back together. Its not as strong as Luffies but i still think its conqueror haki.



Nah, completely different but yet so familiar. Conqueror's Haki kind of displays your power but makes those not as strong as you succumb to it by passing out or feeling the intense pressure, or control living things by showing who is "boss" so to speak.

Zoro displayed his power to en-still fear into his enemy. Where as the Conquerer's Haki people either just pass out or feel their incredible presence, Zoro uses fear to make people tremble to him and feel as though they are powerless against him. In a way he screws with them mentally with his brutal and crazy power. Where Conquerer's Haki just overpowers those with a weaker spirit then the person using it.

Something along those lines anywho.


He's already used this fear once before in Archepilego against those small fry right. And maybe his Asura is something to do it with it too?
Oct 30, 2012 4:11 AM

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good job zoro putting Monet in her place she was way too cocky for her own good.
Oct 30, 2012 5:03 AM

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fuck, i love zoro :$
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Oct 30, 2012 5:09 AM
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Sanji finally said something good about Zoro for a change.
Yay.
Oct 30, 2012 5:21 AM

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<3 Zoro. Lol at the bickering between Zoro and Tashigi. Tashigi looks really good now after the timeskip. Long hair suits her. And WOW Sanji actually said something good about Zoro! Damn! Love Tashigi's talk asking just how strong the SH have gotten over these two years as Zoro was overwhelmingly more powerful than them. Man, what kind of beast is it gonna take to give Luffy Zoro and Sanji a good fight? At this point I doubt Doflamingo's other henchman will do any better than Monet.
Oct 30, 2012 5:22 AM
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Tashigi didnt stand a chance against Monet, that's because Zoro got into fight. And I'm happy for that, Tashigi could never be a match for Monet.

Zoro is too strong, it was excelent, settled the fight with just one cut, brilliant.

I love Zoro's quote:

"Have you ever encountered a wild animal that you can guarantee will never bite a person" *.*

Caribou is free again...
Oct 30, 2012 5:28 AM
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<3 Zoro. Lol at the bickering between Zoro and Tashigi. Tashigi looks really good now after the timeskip. Long hair suits her. And WOW Sanji actually said something good about Zoro! Damn! Love Tashigi's talk asking just how strong the SH have gotten over these two years as Zoro was overwhelmingly more powerful than them. Man, what kind of beast is it gonna take to give Luffy Zoro and Sanji a good fight? At this point I doubt Doflamingo's other henchman will do any better than Monet.


Vergo was actually a good oponnent for Sanji. Sanji even said that if he had kept the fight, he would be in serious trouble. He might have lost againt Vergo.
Oct 30, 2012 5:32 AM

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I'm really glad that there are Marines involved in this arc.

Because now that they've seen how much the SHs improved we'll finally have our long awaited Bounty Level Up :D really can't wait for that.
Oct 30, 2012 5:41 AM

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i wanna know whats with smoker and law soo why too hack are the skipping those too for two chapters already !!!
Oct 30, 2012 5:57 AM

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Kannei said:
i wanna know whats with smoker and law soo why too hack are the skipping those too for two chapters already !!!


I'm actually glad they focused on one fight and got it over with...instead of going back and forth with all the ongoing fights. Hopefully nxt chap will focus on Smoker vs Vergo's fight only with no distractions
Oct 30, 2012 5:58 AM

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Nice one Zoro. Such complete victory with only the least necessary strength.
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<3 Zoro. Lol at the bickering between Zoro and Tashigi. Tashigi looks really good now after the timeskip. Long hair suits her. And WOW Sanji actually said something good about Zoro! Damn! Love Tashigi's talk asking just how strong the SH have gotten over these two years as Zoro was overwhelmingly more powerful than them. Man, what kind of beast is it gonna take to give Luffy Zoro and Sanji a good fight? At this point I doubt Doflamingo's other henchman will do any better than Monet.


Vergo was actually a good oponnent for Sanji. Sanji even said that if he had kept the fight, he would be in serious trouble. He might have lost againt Vergo.


I purposely left Vergo out because I assume Smoker or Law will finish him. I almost left Sanji out of that statement because of that, but I didn't want Sanji worshippers coming at me.
Oct 30, 2012 6:06 AM

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nice chapter, loved the power display Zoro put in. He is the true vice-captain of the crew.
As a 'Demon' pirate hunter, fear was just so obvious a weapon for him to control. I love that.

Also, now that this is finished, I guess we're off that theory of Monet joining (for now, but I hope for good), and the story goes to Luffy or Smoker/Law. Exciting times are ahead of us!

Also, Zoro x Tashigi is just too obvious. :D
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Oct 30, 2012 6:08 AM

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^ I'm usually not a shipper but there a few instances where I am, Tashigi x Zoro is one of them ^^
Oct 30, 2012 6:34 AM

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Zoro ftw! I can't believe he cut her in half. :D
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Oct 30, 2012 6:35 AM

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pretty awesome chapter, ive always liked tashigi and smoker and them being here makes this arc that much better :D zoro is literally a monster now, well he was training with mihawk :P

i cant wait to see luffy against someone who is a challenge, if zoro just did that then it means luffy is even more powerful (wasnt really feeling it in the fishman arc >.>) cant wait for doflamingos crew to arrive either. big things are gonna be happening and very soon i think :D
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Oct 30, 2012 6:47 AM
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<3 Zoro. Lol at the bickering between Zoro and Tashigi. Tashigi looks really good now after the timeskip. Long hair suits her. And WOW Sanji actually said something good about Zoro! Damn! Love Tashigi's talk asking just how strong the SH have gotten over these two years as Zoro was overwhelmingly more powerful than them. Man, what kind of beast is it gonna take to give Luffy Zoro and Sanji a good fight? At this point I doubt Doflamingo's other henchman will do any better than Monet.


Vergo was actually a good oponnent for Sanji. Sanji even said that if he had kept the fight, he would be in serious trouble. He might have lost againt Vergo.


I purposely left Vergo out because I assume Smoker or Law will finish him. I almost left Sanji out of that statement because of that, but I didn't want Sanji worshippers coming at me.

Buffalo and Baby 5 are coming. They can be dangerous oponnents for Luffy and Zoro.

Tashigi learn how to use soru, cool :D
Oct 30, 2012 7:59 AM

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It's a great chapter, I like it a lot. Zoro exhibited his strength and strong personality. in the end we never know if he will really cut a woman.

The constant bickering between Zoro and Tashigi was hilarious.

Oct 30, 2012 8:22 AM

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Funniest chapter in a while. I guess we Zoro fans got what we wanted.

I use to like Monet but when she started making them hideous monster faces i dislike her.
Oct 30, 2012 9:51 AM
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can Zoro even use Haki at this point...
Oct 30, 2012 10:04 AM

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can Zoro even use Haki at this point...


If he used Haki he would had killed her. You know Zoro wont kill a woman.
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can Zoro even use Haki at this point...


of course, he strike monet

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Oct 30, 2012 11:06 AM

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"Great Dragon Movement"


I really liked this chapter
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Oct 30, 2012 11:21 AM

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about time Monet is gone.. too much screentime
still that double page was Amazing.. its been ages since we had some awesomeness from Zoro the man!!!!!
great chapter.. awesome content..

now lets see what Smoker does
Oct 30, 2012 11:24 AM

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Lol Zoro doesn't even need to use Haki to kill this bitch...

he just intimidated her... what a badass
Oct 30, 2012 12:40 PM
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Will Zoro's badass level ever stop increasing?

End Of Series, "MOST BADASS PERSON IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD"
Oct 30, 2012 1:25 PM

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Kannei said:
i wanna know whats with smoker and law soo why too hack are the skipping those too for two chapters already !!!


That's good! That means that the next chapters Oda would focus on their fight for an entire chapter, instead of having the fight transition into another scene. I'm looking forward to that fight as well.
Oct 30, 2012 1:55 PM

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand again nothing happened. Just a pointless fight that isn't smoker vs vergo and doesn't have any good stuff in it. Nor actual development. More and more stalling.
Getting tired of the repetitive bickering between character x and y. It's cute for the first time, even 10th time, not the 1000 time. "They get louder with each time and more cheesy/annoying"

+1 for not having those annoying kids

Still better than Bleach today.
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I take it you would like the fights to last 4pages? These small fry matches have always existed and always will simply because the SH have 10 members already and at least 3 of them are meant to always get a fight. What part of that is stalling?

Maybe you should take your time and think what is it that you want to see happening and how much that goes in accordance to OP's standart development
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Oct 30, 2012 2:06 PM

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Such badass in this chapter!

I actually never thought Zoro has a soft spot for women, I mean he is known to be a "wild beast", even shown in this chapter.


I seriously thought Zoro cut her in half, but turns out he won over intimidation instead of strength. This may also lead into a hint of development into Conqueror's Haki.

"Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro
Oct 30, 2012 2:07 PM

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Good chapter. Love to see zoro in some action
Oct 30, 2012 2:16 PM

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I take it you would like the fights to last 4pages? These small fry matches have always existed and always will simply because the SH have 10 members already and at least 3 of them are meant to always get a fight. What part of that is stalling?

Maybe you should take your time and think what is it that you want to see happening and how much that goes in accordance to OP's standart development


Length is relative to how good/to the point the fight is.
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Oct 30, 2012 2:23 PM

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1 chapter ain't that much either.
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Oct 30, 2012 3:10 PM

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Damn amazing chapter! Zoros more impressive than Luffy right now, he has yet to even struggle against his opponents post-timeskip
Oct 30, 2012 3:36 PM

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Lol Zoro is pretty strong, he easily one shot her.
Oct 30, 2012 4:26 PM

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this fight per se was more like a character development for Zoro and that girl.. its not a Fight...the cool fights will come after this arc..
Oct 30, 2012 6:21 PM

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Zoro reminds the world (and Monet) that he's in the Strawhat crew. Zoro's Sakki and fun interaction/development between Zoro/Tashigi = 5/5 chapter for me.

Now on to Smoker/Vergo.
Oct 30, 2012 7:04 PM

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That...That....That might have been my favorite post-timeskip chapter so far
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I liked how this chapter focused on a single scene rather than jumping to something completely unrelated every two pages.
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