Which is worse?
Violence
84.9%
118
Sex
15.1%
21
139 votes
Virgil said: I'm not expressing an opinion in this because it is an endless debate that I don't want to get involved in, but I will say this. The other day, I was walking through the grocery store and two mothers were talking, one of them said that they would rather their child see people getting sliced in half with tons of blood and guts than them seeing one boob. Anybody see anything wrong with this? It certainly set off my idiot radar. Because tits destroy children |
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| i'm scared of arguing on this thread as there might be people who think sex is worse than violence. thats a really scary thought. |
Virgil said: I'm not expressing an opinion in this because it is an endless debate that I don't want to get involved in, but I will say this. The other day, I was walking through the grocery store and two mothers were talking, one of them said that they would rather their child see people getting sliced in half with tons of blood and guts than them seeing one boob. Anybody see anything wrong with this? And this woman was allowed to procreate? I'm going to guess she didn't breastfeed then? Well, I think 9/10 people in this thread think violence is worse, and I've had enough of playing devil's advocate and attempting to bring up arguments for both sides...I'll just reinforce what I have said. Both subjects should be presented carefully to young children, but violence is worse as a child gets older, and of course violence is just worse in general. But at the end of the day, both have pretty much brought mankind to where it is now, so you can't really avoid either of them...It's life, what can you do? |
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| Violence is literally life-threatening. But being raped is so mentally degrading is can be worse. Though, I will have to stand by my vote, that violence is worse. |
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| Violence, obviously. I'm quite sure that sex is normal and blowing peoples brains out is not. |
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Veronin said: Violence, obviously. I'm quite sure that sex is normal and blowing peoples brains out is not. Epic pun there. Blowing people's brains out with guns isn't normal. I would be happy to have my brains blown out otherwise though. ^_^ |
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| I think that sex and violence can be equally bad in curtain situations. I think that sexual themes shouldn't be in a children's show. Their are so many grotesque things on cartoons nowadays. I don't agree with rape scenes or domestic violence on tv. I don't really like to see sex on a show, but I don't a problem with someone else watching it. |
| How can sex be worse? Sex is cool! |
| There is nothing wrong with sex in the first place I can't even begin to understand why you would even consider throwing sex and violence together O.o |
Rhayn said: I find it a bit depressing that people instantly interpret sex as either smut, rape, one-off flings + consequences or powerplays. It's meant to be an intimate act between 2 people who love each other, but how often do you actually see that genuinely depicted in movies or on tv? And I think its naive to think sex is just 'making love'. Look at our world, is sex really attributed to making love? Or is it mostly attributed to selling products, scandals, abuse, porn, a weapon of war? Yes, the true purpose of sex is essentially better than the purpose of violence, but life isnt that black and white. Therefore I dont see this thread's question as black and white either. Every act's purpose can be changed and/or abused. Therefore no act is 'worse', all can be used in positive or negative ways. You find it depressing that sex is automatically equated with those negative things, even though I think that that is justified considering the shitty world we live in, but isnt it equally depressing that violence is automatically equated with negative things, when like I mentioned earlier in this thread, that violence is one of the major reasons you're living the lifestyle that you are, and maybe even the reason you're even alive in the first place. Maybe if the allies hadnt been so violent against the Nazis, your parents wouldnt have met and had you? Maybe if the government and corporations werent so violent, you wouldnt live in a house and have nice products like clothes, food and mp3 players? The act by themselves may have one purpose, but when humans are involved, nothing's black and white. (WW2 just reared its head, thread's over now) |
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| sex really isnt an issue when compared to violence nowadays |
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| This poll makes no sense, there is no "worse" thing, one is a bad thing, the other one isn't. |
| Isnt rape just like violent sex ? I vote for that bein the worst |
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| oO It's all context, as has been said. There are negative messages in depictions of both in media, whether that is encouraging a poor self-image among youth, violence, etc. Even the news media propagates harmful concepts. In regards to children, they do tend to mimic a lot of the actions they see on TV, particularly if the character is admired and particularly if the viewers are young boys, so in either case, it's best for parents to have a hand in teaching their children, since they are as much an influence in children's lives. |
new_user said: oO It's all context, as has been said. There are negative messages in depictions of both in media, whether that is encouraging a poor self-image among youth, violence, etc. Even the news media propagates harmful concepts. In regards to children, they do tend to mimic a lot of the actions they see on TV, particularly if the character is admired and particularly if the viewers are young boys, so in either case, it's best for parents to have a hand in teaching their children, since they are as much an influence in children's lives. Thank you for bringing a little balance to the conversation. Just thank you! |
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| As others have said, context determines the answer to this question. Cultural biases aren't create over night, though. They take centuries to develop into what they are. The United States for instance developed around a few protestant christians. These Christians thought this way because they thought Jesus was returning soo, and they wanted to be as pure as possible, for which they say youth and therefore virginity as being most pure. Give a few decades, and you can see how such thinking can set cultural standards. The only way out of this is to show that something like sex won't make people impure, and that takes time and patience. (Note: Catholism has no problem with sex. It just has a problem with porn.) |
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| I don't think either is good when used in a bad way, but I find this interesting: 1. Sex can cause violence 2. Violence can cause sex 3. Violent sex can cause violent prison sex I find this interesting. lol XD |
| I dont get this question at all, to me its obvious that violence is worse o.0 |
Brian333 said: Darkprinny said: Isnt rape just like violent sex ? I vote for that bein the worst It won't be very violent if she's drugged or unconscious. What about the ones where he/she is fully awake |
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| None of them. Sex is normal, and violence is on tv every day, ufc etc you name it. |
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| pfft i'm like only one of few ppl who actually voted sex >_> sex is degrading ppl, killing all morals etc la la ah just don't wanna count everything, pretty much ew thing if u ask me x] violence is violence, if we are not talking about something fatal then it's k actually.. i think it would be less bad if small kid would watching it instead, at least it would teach him what he must take in consideration when growing up in this scary world, well dunno like that somehow.. and btw what would be anime without violence? like food without spice.. |
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| Violence of course, It lures out other violence (bobo-doll experiment) |
ShadowSan said: pfft i'm like only one of few ppl who actually voted sex >_> sex is degrading ppl, killing all morals etc la la ah just don't wanna count everything, pretty much ew thing if u ask me x] violence is violence, if we are not talking about something fatal then it's k actually.. i think it would be less bad if small kid would watching it instead, at least it would teach him what he must take in consideration when growing up in this scary world, well dunno like that somehow.. and btw what would be anime without violence? like food without spice.. Would you rather have a 5 year old witness a murder or two people having sex? |
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| What about sex and violence together? Guro anyone? |
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Ontario said: What about sex and violence together? Guro anyone? Eh then it gets way to complex to debate logically. Best to leave combinations out. |
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ShadowSan said: pfft i'm like only one of few ppl who actually voted sex >_> sex is degrading ppl, killing all morals etc la la ah just don't wanna count everything, pretty much ew thing if u ask me x] violence is violence, if we are not talking about something fatal then it's k actually.. i think it would be less bad if small kid would watching it instead, at least it would teach him what he must take in consideration when growing up in this scary world, well dunno like that somehow.. and btw what would be anime without violence? like food without spice.. Let me guess, you're an American right? |
Maglor said: ShadowSan said: pfft i'm like only one of few ppl who actually voted sex >_> sex is degrading ppl, killing all morals etc la la ah just don't wanna count everything, pretty much ew thing if u ask me x] violence is violence, if we are not talking about something fatal then it's k actually.. i think it would be less bad if small kid would watching it instead, at least it would teach him what he must take in consideration when growing up in this scary world, well dunno like that somehow.. and btw what would be anime without violence? like food without spice.. Let me guess, you're an American right? See what I have to put up with living in America? It's enough to drive anybody insane. 75% of our population takes what the news, churches, and their parents spoon feed them and assume that what they are being told is correct. Nobody forms their own opinions anymore because they are so brainwashed... There is no hope for some people. (sigh) |
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| Both aren't THAT bad. It's only bad when it comes to a certain level. Violence? Kids learn to stand up for themselves like that. Sex? They have to learn how and what sooner or later anyways. But when you come with stuff like torture, mutilation and full frontal hardcore animal sex then you're just provoking confusion among the kids. |
| ++ @ Chavez it's not violence or sex that are bad, people are to bleme for the way they realise them |
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| what so bad about sex? without that non of us would have been here. jeez. and violance has nothing good that came out of it. |
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SoraQuasar said: what so bad about sex? without that non of us would have been here. jeez. and violance has nothing good that came out of it. A large growth of STD's and teen pregnancy. Read my previous post which is a little further up here, it sums up the issue. |
Chavez said: SoraQuasar said: what so bad about sex? without that non of us would have been here. jeez. and violance has nothing good that came out of it. A large growth of STD's and teen pregnancy. Read my previous post which is a little further up here, it sums up the issue. sure, but it all depends on the surrounding of the kids and well... everything, like their parents, friends atc. but if you look at it as simply what's worse from the 2, violence is something that has no advantages or good at it. you can call if pure evil if you like. but like other things that are used wrong, sex CAN be involve and be a bad thing. but like I said, it depends on so many factors. |
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| STD's and unwanted pregnancy can be reduced by education and proper protection...And the only country in the western world that really has a problem with rising teen pregnancy is the US. Oh and one other thing. Studies show clearly that "kids nowadays" aren't doing it more or earlier then young people from other era's.... |
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SoraQuasar said: Chavez said: SoraQuasar said: what so bad about sex? without that non of us would have been here. jeez. and violance has nothing good that came out of it. A large growth of STD's and teen pregnancy. Read my previous post which is a little further up here, it sums up the issue. sure, but it all depends on the surrounding of the kids and well... everything, like their parents, friends atc. but if you look at it as simply what's worse from the 2, violence is something that has no advantages or good at it. you can call if pure evil if you like. but like other things that are used wrong, sex CAN be involve and be a bad thing. but like I said, it depends on so many factors. It does not depend on the parents and friends. I live in a small town with a wide set of environments, and teen pregnant girls come from all of them. Violence is what teaches you to stand up for yourself. When someone's about to rob you from your wallet or something, then talking doesn't help a bit. It helps when you can be aggressive at times. Reverse the process of being intimidated and you already won halfway from the person assaulting you. What i posted before, is the answer to the issue. Pronto. |
| Teen pregnancy is a bit of a serious issue down in Texas where I live. I don't know any girls personally that are pregnant, but I have seen plenty out in public. Probably the youngest girl I have seen who appeared to be pregnant (not 100% sure, maybe she just had a huge beer gut), was around 13, which I find rather disturbing... I mean c'mon, 13. I was just learning how to jerk off and these kids were already gettin' some. -.- If at all possible I would like to wait until I am in my mid thirties to have kids, because as many people have said, and I have learned, they are a huge responsibility. I want to get all my fun done before I take on a huge thing like that. It makes no sense to me these people who right when they turn 18 get pregnant and have a kid. I mean you just got out of the house and are your own person, and you just took on one of the biggest responsibilities in the world... Doesn't seem like a good idea too me. I think you should have your life together (steady job, married, college through with, ect.) before you get a kid. Wow, I just noticed how off topic I am, but I typed this so god dammit I'm posting it. |
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| Depends on the sex, depends on the violence. |
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ukonkivi said: Depends on the sex, depends on the violence. |
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| This is a nonquestion. Violence is infringement on another persons freedom. Sex is a consensual act (I am slightly arbitrarily excluding rape from being defined as "sex" here - and in whichever case, rape is sex and violence) - of course with potential negative consequences, but that can arise in any and all situations. Violence is an absolute negative, except "non-serious" violence. That is, entertainment violence. Which isn't violence - it's fake, and consensual. Which one is the worst to depict in culture is even more of a nonquestion. Culture should be free to depict anything, as long as this freedom does not limit another entitys freedom. I don't expect others to share my moral inclinations however. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: rape is sex and violence It's funny, I just came into this thread to mention something along those lines - that I find it strange that people are trying to argue a "sex is negative because rape is bad" angle because I find that rape is violence and not sex. Same with other sexual abuses - they're acts of violence, not acts of sex, even if they involve intercourse. Just my pov. |
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OranSolus said: Cihan said: OranSolus said: Precisely! But then again, I stay as far away as possible from tabloid newspapers, they're just glorified gossip magazines. You cant get away from them, they're plastered everywhere, page 3 boobs flying into your face via a brisk wind. Boobs everywhere. I doubt anyone here is a sociologist so not much we can make of the UK's experience of having boobs freely available in national newspapers for decades. Yeah, if it is damaging, most men in the UK are screwed. I reckon about 9/10 schoolboys first saw breasts because of Page 3! I know I did. :O |
| I would much rather have people swing their genitals around then swing a gun around... Also, the Bobo-doll experiment has show us that watching violence does make you more violent. I really don't understand how some people prefer violence above sex, one is harmful, the other is not (if you do it safe...). Sex is something that makes you feel good, violence makes you feel bad. To bad they both are in human nature. Doesn't "make love, not war" ring a bell? |
| people fear there kids will see sex on TV but they are cool with people getting shot and dieing |
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| WTH? Sex is soo much better! If it's not RAPE. So, I'm guessing sex is okay, as long as there's love in it and there's like... hmm... feeling in it, and the people doing it are OK with it. Violence is just too bad D< No violence I say! There's no reason why you're suppose to have violence mann! |
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