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Feb 23, 2012 8:11 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The girl who was on the wheelchair is in the same class, and she got friends other than Takanashi, who feels lonely. Their relations got weird. ... again, with the help of the counselor.

Basketball team sempai is back to school, and is training the main girl, who cannot go home with Takanashi anymore.

The girl who got out of wheelchair wanted to do something for Takanashi so that she can let her go. The main girl's friend from basketball team also tries to help Takanashi with her worry.

Sempai's love apologized to her, but she doesn't remember/confused about the relations.

Takanashi's being crazy also affecting another world.

Edit: From now on, I'm going to call wheelchair girl as KitaEri girl (since I just saw the list that KitaEri does voice of her, and I didn't realize it the whole time, even the KeyHoleTV screen was not clear enough to see the list).
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Feb 23, 2012 8:14 AM
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Lots of Shits happened.

To sum it up:
  • Kagari gets good.
  • Yomi gets emo.


So I expect everyone except Mato to get emo under manipulation of Saya-chan-sensei.
Feb 23, 2012 8:23 AM
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Welp, Yomi has lost her mind XD

We FINALLY get to see some STR. She throws Chariot's head and body into a chasm.

Saya took Yomi's coffee cup home...with the coffee still inside, it looks like. So...she's still being creepy.

Kohata's crush calls her out, and it looks like he apologized and confessed to also having the same feelings...but Kohata says she doesn't know what he's talking about, and leaves him alone in the rain. Scene had a very eerie mood.

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Preview for Episode 5 is on the official site:

http://www.noitamina-brs.jp/

It looks like Saya is choking Mato 0_0 The arms look like an adults. I think in the same scene, Mato sees a flash of BGS's eyes.
Feb 23, 2012 8:58 AM
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I didn't get this episode... only got that kagari is now nice and yomi is about to go mad... and then people say guilty crown doesn't make sense... DAMN WHY IS SUPERCELL ALWAYS DOING THINGS THAT ARE AMAZINGLY SUGOI BUT I DON'T GET THE STORY!!! ; o ;

but it was nice ... = u = """

and saya-chan-sensei is really creeping me out she's a creep and i think she'll get really psycho in the end and at the really end sugoi brs/mato is getting her in a normal mood or kill her = u = """" i think more that she'll end up being good...

(need to watch it tomorrow again with subs... I WANT TO GET THIS EPISODE!!! ;;;"")
Feb 23, 2012 3:24 PM
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It wasn't half bad, I'd say - even though the net of relationships is quite shallow and the emotions between characters are now almost of a hyperbolic nature. But it's not like anyone's expecting BRS to be deep or anything - some things need to be overexposed so that understanding of the whole would be easier. But everything aside, Saya is a one creepy dame - using subliminal stimuli to convey poisonous words in a simple "slip of the tongue"... She's a scary one all right.

Nothing much happened in this episode - apart from Yomi seeing red and shit hitting the fan - but it was fun to watch, and didn't drag on.
4/5 for this episode.


Feb 23, 2012 3:43 PM
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The reactions these girls are having to some mild stress are pretty sick 0_o...
Feb 23, 2012 3:55 PM
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I know, Saya is drugging them, isn't she?! Ok, I don't really think that, but.... I also wouldn't be surprised if that was what was going on. o_O"
Saya bringing home the coffee cup was a bit creepy..... actually everything about Saya is creepy now. What the heck is she up to?! o_O"
Feb 23, 2012 3:58 PM
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the sleeping giant awakens - Dead Master has returned! my reaction:


1. i think at this point we're still unable to discern Saya's true goal. out of the cast, she's obviously the one most in-tune with the BRS world, as indicated by her motive to mentally push Yomi over the edge and provoking DM.

2. many things were brought up that lead to speculation. we see Strength's first appearance, dumping off Chariot somewhere. who's side is STR on, and what's her motive? will Chariot make her return? Kohata has lost her feelings, possibly as a result of her BRS counterpart's beheading we saw last episode. was this side effect something intended by Black Rock Shooter? how will this fit into Saya's plans?

3. DM's all green attire is kind of growing on me. at first I didn't like it but the color seems to add a surprisingly distinguishable amount of depth. emo Yomi is borderline Yandere. i love it!


Feb 23, 2012 4:11 PM
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Not even a month this show has been airing and we are already half-way through the show xD. I wish they would've made this a tad bit longer.
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Feb 23, 2012 4:16 PM

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Quite the intense episode and I look forward to the next one. BUT... the overly sensitive Yomi jabs hard at a pet peeve of mine... which is people being emotional over every little thing. @_@; I enjoy the anime but at the same time... I can't deny the partial annoyance I have over Yomi at the moment. >_< SAVE HER BLACK ROCK SHOOTER!!!
Feb 23, 2012 4:32 PM

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Quite a shift in roles with Kagari and Yomi.
Feb 23, 2012 4:35 PM

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Sheesh, just looking at Yomi having a mental breakdown makes me want to have one. And the classroom is full of masochists when they loved getting talked down by Kagari, lmao.
Feb 23, 2012 4:49 PM

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This one was a lot better than last one. I liked it! Things are starting to get tense again, and we didn't get the cheap tears and emotions episode 3 had. Still, even if this one lacked a bit of Other-World action, it was amazing for character development.

And Saya is indeed BGS... Meh, it was easily predictable, but only now that I noticed how Saya's eyes are indeed red just like BGS'.

Still, like many people said here, the situation changed now, Yomi is the one a little insane and Kagari is perfectly fine. Seems like Yomi actually liked being "essential" to Kagari.
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Feb 23, 2012 5:06 PM

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Wow just got lot better. Yomi has gone psycho now.
Feb 23, 2012 5:13 PM

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WTF is Saya doing to these kids ????
This show is getting interesting and annoying at the same time that is I'm realy interested in how is saya connected to the other world and what is her goal but on the other hand I was realy annoyed with the amount of teenage drama in this episode I know that they are like 12 and they are all traumatized by Saya with hers creepy counseling but I couldn't but not get anoyed.
So the things that caught my atention in this episode are:
- It seams that everything does not become perfect when BRS kills someone because the real world person looses all his memory connected with their trauma.
-Judging by the preview ,ep 5 is going to be awesome lots of BRS battling and other world characters are getting involved in real world?(someone strangling Mato ,Saya or Yomi)
Anyway however I look at this show I think that they should've gone with the manga plot it was much more interesting at least that's the case with me.
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Feb 23, 2012 5:15 PM

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Wow, Kagari and Yomi pretty much switched. xD

I can't believe a simple "No one needs you" can make someone go insane. >.>
Feb 23, 2012 5:29 PM

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Oh dear, about Yomi, this can't be good.
Feb 23, 2012 5:47 PM

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I really sympathize with Yomi and do feel really bad for her. I kind of understand her, it is quite sad when suddenly you are not being needed anymore..

I hope BRS saves her quick.

5/5 10/10
Feb 23, 2012 5:57 PM

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aside from the very beginning it felt like they almost went the whole episode without showing the other world, hopefully now that yomi is going ape-shit we can finally see more of the other world.

i feel like this series is constantly trying to underwhelm me. most people came for the action and the other world with the actual title character, but its taken a back seat to the real world. i forgave the ova bcuz they tried to do a lot in only 40 mins, now i think they are trying to do too much for 8 episodes. hopefully they can tie it all together in the last 4 episodes.
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Feb 23, 2012 6:07 PM

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Very nice episode! I think this was the best anime best of the week (unlike Shit Crown). At least I was properly excited during this episode. Good stuff.
Feb 23, 2012 6:21 PM
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Intense, that Saya's a biach
Feb 23, 2012 6:24 PM

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Saya and her lies. I'm never going to a counselor again. I actually quite sympathize with Yomi in being alone and useless. However, I do feel she is overreacting a bit about losing friends. When I lose friends, I let them go, there's no use forcing them back with me, it'd just make them hate me.
Feb 23, 2012 6:32 PM

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Poor Yomi. This is interesting, though. I hope she stays crazy for a little whiles longer. And while Kagari's still cruel, I like her a lot better now than I did when she first appeared. She still has personality problems, but she's a bit better, even after the end of this ep.

I'm also interested to see what's up with the other girl. I wanna know why she forgot about that guy, unless she just repressed that memory of her embarassment herself (unlikely; that counselor's still uber sketchy). o.0
Feb 23, 2012 6:56 PM

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wow, mato, kagari, and yuu all done goof'd ._.

yomi's gone mad, and dead master has an army of draugrs under her fingertips

and saya's being a manipulative b*tch again. can't wait to see how everything resolves

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Feb 23, 2012 7:39 PM

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While I do think that show is really good at portraying convincing 12yrold girls, I do also thinks Yomi is overeacting to a point I really wish that Saya is drugging the people or... At least doing something magical? Because if Kohata wasn't pulling an act, that fainting out on last epi means she lost her memories after going to Saya, which by the way is really making me interested in knowing just wth is she up to. lol So yeah, the show is a bit short of all it could be but I'm enjoying it.
Feb 23, 2012 7:59 PM

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Damn! That Noto...ehh I mean Saya already manipulated everyone!
I wonder what is her intention.
Feb 23, 2012 8:08 PM

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Counselor evil mastermind and Yomi completely lost it.
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Saya and her lies. I'm never going to a counselor again. I actually quite sympathize with Yomi in being alone and useless. However, I do feel she is overreacting a bit about losing friends. When I lose friends, I let them go, there's no use forcing them back with me, it'd just make them hate me.

You realize it's her ONLY friends? I mean she wasn't allowed to make any friends back when she had to babysit crazy Kagari. Going a bit emo, she hoped that Mato would come for her but all she gets is a reply from Yuu. And finally, the trigger, Kagari comes back to end their relationship.
She's alone now. Dat woman no doubt get crzy in solitude.
Feb 23, 2012 8:08 PM

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Easily the best episode so far.

I really want to know what the fuck's going on with that counselor. And basketball girl forgetting the guy she confessed to.

I feel really sorry for Yomi. Everyone is so oblivious to her feelings. I can't believe Mato is so bad about neglecting her.
Feb 23, 2012 9:11 PM

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It's funny how like, 5 people thought Saya was BGS on here...and now everyone is on the bandwagon XD

Kohata wasn't the only one who lost her memories; Kagari said she doesn't remember needing Yomi, and she thinks Yomi did a lot for her.

I'm wondering if BGS is setting BRS up; having BRS break the bond between people by cutting off the heads of their counterpart in the other world...the ones that are being "hurt" in the situation (Kagari being jealous about Yomi becoming friends with Mato; being completely dependent on her, and Kohata and the letter). That's pretty morbid if that is the case, LOL.
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The only thing I can't forgive this episode and this TV show for is Dead Master's change in design from the OVA. I guess the glasses and veil were okay while Dead Master was in Chariot's possession--made her seem doll-like--but I wish Dead Master would've gotten rid of them now. But I love everything else about the episode.

So from what I can discern about what happened to Kohata and Kagari, their other world counterparts represent their despair, probably born from Black Gold Saw. But when their counterparts are killed by Black Rock Shooter, they lose that despair and all memories related to it. So Kohata forget about the boy and the teasing and Kagari forget about how much Yomi slaved for her.

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Feb 23, 2012 9:18 PM

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Man, I feel so bad for Yomi. Kagari and Yomi's situations have been swapped pretty much. OWOW SAYA, YOU MANIAC! Seriously though, Saya is such a manipulative bitch. Someone needs to bitchslap her good! Yomi going psycho and looks like her true Dead Master form has arrived, those skulls. Black Rock Shooters needs to save her NOW! :D It's a shame we didn't see much of the BRS world in this episode. Wanted to see more of BRS. Ah well, next episode is guaranteed to be great.
Nevertheless loved this episode.

@Seeker: I agree with you. DM's design in the OVA was a lottttt better than this version. If the TV Anime had the OVA designs, I think I'd jizz non-stop... figuratively speaking ROFL. :D
Feb 23, 2012 9:19 PM

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I LMFAO when Kagari told Yomi that she wanted to thank her so that she wuld let Kagari go. I relli want to see the next episode to see whats the result of Yomi's mental disorder. The guidence counselor is my fav.
Feb 23, 2012 9:20 PM

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I hope one of those girls goes crazy and kills everyone. Seriously though, these bitches be seriously clingy...
Feb 23, 2012 9:22 PM

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Dallykun said:
Saya and her lies. I'm never going to a counselor again. I actually quite sympathize with Yomi in being alone and useless. However, I do feel she is overreacting a bit about losing friends. When I lose friends, I let them go, there's no use forcing them back with me, it'd just make them hate me.

Saya and her lies indeed... But Yomi still has Mato. She just... thought too hard about Yuu being best friends with her. :(
Feb 23, 2012 9:32 PM

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Sorry, Yomi's drama is far too forced. I get where they are trying to do, but no... trying to hard makes it far to forced and unnatural. Kagari's changes are more understandable, due to the events of episode 2, but even her character change is far too drastic. She goes from being totally relient on Yomi, to completely rejecting Yomi's previous affection for her. Yes, she finds new friends, but does she have to suddenly decide that Yomi never really helped her at all? Also the relationships are too black and white, making them extremely shallow.

Also, they brushed off the plot with the basketball team captain pretty fast. I guess it was only used to show the counsellor's power? Not very well integrated in this episode... They just stuffed it in the middle of the episode for no reason and I have a feeling that this doesn't get resolved...

Bring back the fighting scenes please. Countless others shows do drama far better.
The fighting however is more unique and more interesting.
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Hello. I watched the episode in RAW and didn't get what the counselor said to Yomi, nor what Kagari said to Yomi after giving her the cookies. Could someone post it please?

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Quite the best episode so far ... I think. Though Yomi feeling all emo and useless just made me go like "you're way too f*cking generic" and well ... it didn't turn out really bad towards the end.

Also, that background track in the DM vs BRS battle was just amazing. Ryo I love you. Again.
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I really wanna know what the heck is up with the counselor; i mean seriously, also wasn't she crying out of now where last episode to what she did in this one; my guess is that she is aware of the other world and is manipulating it through the normal one; well just a guess, but if i remember correctly she said "success" when Yomi broke as if she was aiming for something similar for all the characters from the get go.
Feb 23, 2012 10:12 PM

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Best episode so far,Yomi Breaks.

Saya its just a bitch telling Yomi that was soooo bitchy,she is just manipulating everyone an it looks she wants that every student she visit to break.

Yomi drama was big this episode forced ya but still i find it quite entertaining no less specially she snapping up in her bed by seein Yuu message was so good.

Kagari is good to see she is finally less crazy and she was super popular i know she had a good hearth since the moment i saw her :D

Still she forgot about everything about Yomi,as the president of the basketball team i think it has something to do with BRS maybe if she kills their representation in the other world all their despair,suffering and problems just forgets that is why maybe Saya cry last episode since she fail to make her as crazy as is Yume right now.

Well just theories for now hopefully next episode we could know some more and see what Yomi reactions are going to be.
Feb 23, 2012 10:18 PM

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Damn! That Noto...ehh I mean Saya already manipulated everyone!
I wonder what is her intention.


from the looks of it Saya is just simply a Bully, she loves seeing others suffer by toying with others that is how i see her character
Feb 23, 2012 10:21 PM

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....Bitch Counselor must pay......

What the hell is Saya up to?!
Feb 23, 2012 10:24 PM

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j0x said:
tailsxyakumo said:
Damn! That Noto...ehh I mean Saya already manipulated everyone!
I wonder what is her intention.


from the looks of it Saya is just simply a Bully, she loves seeing others suffer by toying with others that is how i see her character


That's such a simple impression (I was also thinking that at first), I was expecting she'd know about the "Other World".
Feb 23, 2012 10:29 PM
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Well it looks like I am not the only one who is starting to like this anime. It's funny how in the first episode everyone was bitching and now everyone here wants to know what's going to happen next. My actual only fear is that they are not going to have enough time and will do what the OVA did and never explain whats going on. 4 episodes to go and so many questions to answer. I just hope they don't rush to answer them.
Feb 23, 2012 11:12 PM

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Fucking Christ this anime. I feel for Yomi but this anime just throws melodrama everywhere. Oh well crazy Yomi reaction faces yay yay.
Also I started to like Kagari then at the end she still seems to be a total bitch. LOLOLOLOLOL.
Fucking christ she went from NO I NEED YOU YOU ARE MINE.

to

LOL I can't even remember why I liked you or needed you but thanks anyways, I guess?
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Feb 23, 2012 11:37 PM
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Interesting twist on the fact that being killed in the other world makes one lose their memory of the person that caused their mental breakdown to star with.

I see others don't agree but Yomi losing it at the end makes sense really. She literally spent years with no one but her little basket case Kagari who now wants little to nothing to do with her. Her world, for years, revolved around Kagari, now she can't grasp that people can have more than one friend making her as needy of Kagari as Kagari was for Yomi.

As for Kohata, I can understand the reaction. In her mind, she basically had a stranger telling her about events that never happened.
Feb 24, 2012 12:12 AM
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When this started I was wondering how they were going to make the story last 8 episodes. Now i'm wondering how is this all going to get concluded in 4 episodes.

I really like this series, but I don't think I would like it as much if I hadn't seen the OVA first. Hopefully now there will be some alternate world battling. That's been missing the last few episodes. I hope Strength actually fights or something, and doesn't just stand/walk around all the time. Dead Master finally awakens and Yomi broke. Next few episodes should be good.
Feb 24, 2012 12:26 AM
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Yomi's reaction may seem a bit exxagerated but it's understandable. Feeling useless and unloved often leads to such behaviour especially when a person is as shy and introverted as Yomi.

I already suspected that BRS beheading people couldn't be entirely good. Seems like she releases their human conterparts from their stress but they also lose emotions that were connected with their breakdown.
Feb 24, 2012 12:32 AM

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Kagari...looks like nozomi..sasaki..

KAGARI LEVELS UP

And oh how the mighty have fallen. Yomi is the biggest drama queen i swear. Suck it up princess. However, I do admit Kagari's visit was the dickest move, but that was most likely due to the school counsellor.

The counsellor can erase/manipulate memories? Hypnosis? Drugs? Her coffee (or at least I think it was the coffee, can't remember) erased the basketball coach's memories of the guy, and the counsellor's red BRS chick taking away Kagari's one has erased Kagari's memories as well. Well at least we know that there is a direct link between both worlds now, and that the BRS world can directly affect the real world.

5/5 Frkn amazing episode imo.
Feb 24, 2012 12:35 AM

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Sheesh, just looking at Yomi having a mental breakdown makes me want to have one. And the classroom is full of masochists when they loved getting talked down by Kagari, lmao.
if the students are the masochists...does that mean Saya is the sadist?.

well good job Yomi you done gone and creep'ed me out just like Kagari did a few weeks ago
Feb 24, 2012 12:39 AM

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Just as Keikaku Saya. Well played.

Silly lesbian Yomi, you're just friends and you will forever be 2nd place to Yuu.

I think I backtracked the scene 3 times when Yomi is getting mindfucked. How I loved the faces she was making.
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hmm... I wonder if they're going to wrap everything up in the next four episodes or if there's going to be a season 2.
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