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| Hisoka lied about his prophecy but still made it suspicious so that they'd think he's being restricted by kurapika, this way they'd stay in yorknew and he'd have more time to figure out a way to fight Chrollo Awesome |
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| Pretty nice episode even thought there wasn't many action, like the 99 version there was no fight with Hisoka and Nobunaga, looking forward to the next epside. |
| so much tactics talk i like it, and nice to hear that Kurapika's chain jail is the only restricted power he can use (or the power exclusively for the phantom troupe usage only) |
| Hisoka's awesome!! So cooool, but he showed a bit of his pervy side this episode >_< Ahh, I love Gon, Kurapika, Killua, and Leorio... such a great team ^-^ Grr, the fake bases are annoying though D: Can't wait for next episode <3333 |
| Def another good episode...Hisoka's ability of turning things the way he wants, is pretty awesome. Looks like the next episode will be another build-up to more action later on.. Looking forward to it |
| Cant wait for the blackout scene |
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| I WANT MOOOOORE! Damn Hisoka's awesome! |
 Sums this episode pretty much up. I wonder how Killua is going to handle the situation. |
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| Hisoka is a sneaky one he is! Wish the ep explained it was his texture surprise like they did in the manga but they got the point across so it's fine. Oh and his rape face was creepy and crazy has usual The conversation with our group of 4 was really inspiring. The friendship between these 4 people who all happened to meet each other at the Hunter Exam is really something. While this show deals with the theme of friendship like many other shonen, the way it's handled is more profound and doesn't beat us over the head with cheesy stuff like " With the power of my friends I can do anything!" When the soundtrack for Departure with Strings played I couldn't help but smile along with everyone. I also loved hearing Kurapika's character song as an instrumental. I was wondering when they were going to do it since they did it for Killua already. Speaking of Killua I was cracking up when he was thinking "Don't accept our help" over and over. |
| Hisoka is one crafty creepy bastard! At least we now know his true intentions and that he's only truly interested in fighting Chrollo. I wonder who would actually come out on top in that fight. Hopefully Togashi gives us that fight sometime in the future because I'm really intrigued by the thought of it. It would be so awesome to see! Things are shaping up pretty well for the next couple of episodes. It looks like the main gang and the Phantom Troupe are headed for a collision course. Can't wait to see how it all plays out. |
| "No matter how much of a genius one is, in front of the Uchiha name, they're just ordinary people." - Sasuke Uchiha |
| Awesome episode as usual, Hisoka is a BOSS. |
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| sneaky sneaky hisoka |
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| good episode i liked the new ost when kara was explaining...even the drawings are getting much better ...keep it up mad |
edl01 said: Wait, I just saw the huntercyclepedia and...Feitan's a guy!!!??? What the heck? If this wasn't crunchyroll making a derp on their subs then OH MY GOD MY EYES. Biggest twist yet, the 99 series didn't have any twists anywere near this big and shocking Oh and...I guess the episode was good too, although I definitly think the first half was much stonger than the latter half. That cliffhanger also didn't make much sense to me. It's actually more surprising that you didn't know. LOL Remember the rule dude: If it doesn't have boobs, it's a guy. |
| ROFL at Hisoka having another boner on Chrollo anyway nice to hear Kurapica Theme song :) |
| Hisoka is so damn sneaky |
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Vicious108 said: edl01 said: Wait, I just saw the huntercyclepedia and...Feitan's a guy!!!??? What the heck? If this wasn't crunchyroll making a derp on their subs then OH MY GOD MY EYES. Biggest twist yet, the 99 series didn't have any twists anywere near this big and shocking Oh and...I guess the episode was good too, although I definitly think the first half was much stonger than the latter half. That cliffhanger also didn't make much sense to me. Are you serious? I can understand thinking he might be a girl in the 99 series, where he was voiced by a woman, but in this one, where he's voiced by Kappei freakin' Yamaguchi? Wait Ussop is a guy too? :O And L??? :O :O :O |
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| Soo Killua is on a trap... or he is in the real base?? |
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| Damn. I live how Hisoka is in a shitty situation... but he still is strong. His desire for battling Chrollo turns him on. And finally Kurapika makes his move now!!! Cannot wait! |
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| ahaha ! hisoka is such a pervvv lol :) i was laughing sooo much when he was thinking about chrollo. I Can't Wait For Bisquit !!! C: |
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Celastias said: I Can't Wait For Bisquit !!! C: You'll have to wait a little bit though. |
| Hisoka's facial expressions never cease to make me laugh the first time. |
x5exotic said: Vicious108 said: edl01 said: Wait, I just saw the huntercyclepedia and...Feitan's a guy!!!??? What the heck? If this wasn't crunchyroll making a derp on their subs then OH MY GOD MY EYES. Biggest twist yet, the 99 series didn't have any twists anywere near this big and shocking Oh and...I guess the episode was good too, although I definitly think the first half was much stonger than the latter half. That cliffhanger also didn't make much sense to me. Are you serious? I can understand thinking he might be a girl in the 99 series, where he was voiced by a woman, but in this one, where he's voiced by Kappei freakin' Yamaguchi? Wait Ussop is a guy too? :O And L??? :O :O :O LOL, it never occured to me to think its a girl. A common ethic used by most character designers is the eyes, girls will be drawn with bigger eyes to convey emotion while guys will mostly have slanty eyes. |
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| Hisoka you tricky bastard! Who would've thought that Killua and Leorio was still in the room when Kurapika was talking to Gon? Well I expected it fro Killua, but not Leorio. Killua's got some work cut out for him... he need to choose the right place. |
| Cool episode! I watched the 1999 version a long time ago but I don't remeber a lot so a lot of stuff still feels new to me :P |
| I didn't get the part when Hisoka said it was a gamble that he only really gave Kurapika the powers of Uvo and Shizuku and not 8 as he told Kuroro. Like what difference does it make if he told about 2 or 8 members? And how does that lead to whether Kuroro will figure out the chain user's ability or not? Even in 99 version I'm surprised no one from the Troupe brought up Pakunoda's ability on Hisoka. |
| "I didn't get the part when Hisoka said it was a gamble that he only really gave Kurapika the powers of Uvo and Shizuku and not 8 as he told Kuroro. Like what difference does it make if he told about 2 or 8 members?" It does make a difference, for them at least. If Kurapika only knows 2 troupe member's abilities (and one of them has already been killed) he is not the same kind of threat compared to, you know, knowing more than half of the members' abilities. The better you keep your ability a secret, the better your chances at survival are (yeah, it's more ninja-savvy than Naruto). It's even said in the manga. Even if Kurapika wasn't bent on revenge, he could sell the spiders' secrets to anyone crazy enough who wants to capture them. So yeah, IMO the gamble consisted on the spider believing the chain dude was a bigger threat than it actually was. " And how does that lead to whether Kuroro will figure out the chain user's ability or not?" It was... nicely explained in the episode, and it was more than just the number of skills Hisoka revealed. Kuroro, being the clever, analytic and nen-knowledgeable leader he is, picked up on clues left in Hisoka's (fake) fortune, and theorized a possible hatsu for the chain dude. He just interpreted the poem and deduced that Hisoka was coerced to cooperate with the chain dude because of some key words (the sword of law being the most important). However, it's all a ruse made possible by Hisoka's another hatsu which details are unknown to the spiders (again, information about your hatsu can make the difference between life and death). Kuroro also recalls details from Uvo's first encounter with Kurapika to theorize that he has at least two abilities and the probable hatsu type. It's much clearer in the manga (spoon-feeding level IMO). Why is it that Hisoka is revealing actual details of Kurapika's hatsu? Probably because their agreement was not as serious, just a give and take (said many episodes ago), and/or maybe because he didn't have enough time to think of a better plan to keep the spiders in Yorkshin. The actual fortune would've put him in a much more complicated situation. "Even in 99 version I'm surprised no one from the Troupe brought up Pakunoda's ability on Hisoka." Since they come from different backgounds, it's unlikely they would use Paku's hatsu on new members when they join, they're kinda used to different people I guess, or they are the "won't ask, won't tell" kind of people. Also, Kuroro pretty much says when they first attacked the auction that they trust each other to a good degree by rejecting the possiblity of any traitors in the troupe. In any case, reading Hisoka's mind AFTER he was revealed to be the mole would probably amount to tell what he wasn't supposed to tell, or at least Kuroro might have thought it wasn't worth the risk. That's precisely why it's called A GAMBLE, if they hadn't picked up on the clues he left in the message, or if he was scanned with Paku's ability, he wouldn't have made it alive. Jeez... this pretty much sums up 2/3 of the episode. |
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| @kchorrex2012 thanks for the effort but I'm more concerned on Kurapika and Hisoka's team up. It's true that the Spiders would consider the chain user being a bigger threat now that in their perspective, he knows their abilities. Then why didn't Hisoka tell Kurapika everything in the first place? He could lie on the Troupe of course but why limit Kurapika's knowledge on the troop if he wants to battle the leader badly? The 2nd part though wasn't whether Kuroro figuring it out could help Hisoka or not. It's why the 1st premise (Hisoka lying about revealing their skills) lead to Kuroro figuring out the chain user's ability and eventually decide to stay? Like Hosoka said, telling Kurapika the abilities of only 2 members was a gamble so Kuroro could lead to a conclusion of Kurapika's abilities and choosing to stay. The premise and conclusion doesn't connect. He could have told Kurapika everything and it won't be factor on Kuroro's decision, because Kuroro is basing his decision from Hisoka's prophecy, NOT from Kurapika's perspective. And I think I know why Kuroro didn't ask Paku to use her ability on Hisoke. It would count as acquiring information and would thus kill Hisoka even if it wasn't his intention to reveal anything. |
LanceC said: @kchorrex2012 thanks for the effort but I'm more concerned on Kurapika and Hisoka's team up. It's true that the Spiders would consider the chain user being a bigger threat now that in their perspective, he knows their abilities. Then why didn't Hisoka tell Kurapika everything in the first place? He could lie on the Troupe of course but why limit Kurapika's knowledge on the troop if he wants to battle the leader badly? The 2nd part though wasn't whether Kuroro figuring it out could help Hisoka or not. It's why the 1st premise (Hisoka lying about revealing their skills) lead to Kuroro figuring out the chain user's ability and eventually decide to stay? Like Hosoka said, telling Kurapika the abilities of only 2 members was a gamble so Kuroro could lead to a conclusion of Kurapika's abilities and choosing to stay. The premise and conclusion doesn't connect. He could have told Kurapika everything and it won't be factor on Kuroro's decision, because Kuroro is basing his decision from Hisoka's prophecy, NOT from Kurapika's perspective. Hisoka only knew 2 abilities when he met with Kurapika (again, it's explicitly said in the manga). My guess is that he only told him about the abilities he was absolutely certain about, because he could have inferred a thing or two about the others from seeing them in action. On the other hand, if Hisoka had known about Kuroro's ability I don't think he would've told Kurapika ever. About deciding to stay despite what the fortunes said, I think it was precisely because if you know how to interpret them, you can strategically avoid their predictions. I think the leader was confident that they could defeat the chain dude with a good plan because they already found out his motives (revenge), his background (kuruta clan), his job, and they have some nice clues about his abilities. For example, Shizuku's prophecy said that it was dangerous for her to be alone, so the leader made them team up and not act alone. Also, Hisoka's life is at stake if he's under the effects of the chain dude's ability, they need to get rid of that (SPOILER: finding a nen eraser is too much trouble). Plus, leaving loose ends (going home and ignoring a guy who knows their abilities) is not a good thing, and also, it's a chance to avenge Uvo and stop Nobunaga's bitching. What I agree that doesn't make sense is that Hisoka's fake prediction hints at a different fate than the others' predictions, and the Troupe didn't quite realize this. In his prediction they should remain in Yorkshin to stay alive, but the other predictions advise them to go home. Probably the betrayal+chain dude clues were such a big deal that they didn't realize this. I didn't care much either because is takes a lot of IQ to be able to think up an intrincate poem like that in just a few seconds under pressure. I'd definitely give Hisoka a Nobel Prize in Literature only for that. @chikkychappy Thanks. Sorry, I'm not Chrollo. Just a new guy here whose favorite series is HxH. |
kchorrex2012Nov 14, 2012 9:21 AM
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chikkychappy said: kchorrex2012 said: "I didn't get the part when Hisoka said it was a gamble that he only really gave Kurapika the powers of Uvo and Shizuku and not 8 as he told Kuroro. Like what difference does it make if he told about 2 or 8 members?" It does make a difference, for them at least. If Kurapika only knows 2 troupe member's abilities (and one of them has already been killed) he is not the same kind of threat compared to, you know, knowing more than half of the members' abilities. The better you keep your ability a secret, the better your chances at survival are (yeah, it's more ninja-savvy than Naruto). It's even said in the manga. Even if Kurapika wasn't bent on revenge, he could sell the spiders' secrets to anyone crazy enough who wants to capture them. So yeah, IMO the gamble consisted on the spider believing the chain dude was a bigger threat than it actually was. . great analysis, post more xD are you chrollo from nexgear? The number of member's abilities revealed by Hisoka also situates the encounter with Kurapika in a later frame of time... Why Hisoka would revealed only 2 Ryodan members abilities when he has been already exposed to more members abilities?... this give a more credible scenario for Hisoka fake fortune in the correct time frame. |
| I'd forgotten about most of this stuff from the 1999 version so it was a good reminder for me as to why the upcoming events happen. |
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| "Turn him down" .... "Turn him down".... Haha. Killua is really super concerned with Gon. |
| Damn, that's some plan there. |
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Gotta hand it to Hisoka, he's playing all of his cards right and is one crafty devil. His rape faces and sensual tone crack me up though. Uploaded with ImageShack.us OHHHHH |
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StrawHat_ said:  Sums this episode pretty much up. I wonder how Killua is going to handle the situation. Hisoka's random orgasms get me every time xD |
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| Hisoka is just the best... damn. Something is going on between that Squala and one of Neon's maids... that lucky bastard. man those Troupe members sure have unique abilities. |
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d_2_HxH said: ^ all thisI think I loved this episode more than the previous one, even with the gorgeous animation in the opening 5 minutes thrown in. I felt that this episode had a smoother flow and had many great character moments. Anyway, Hisoka and Killua stole the show for me in this episode. First of all, Hisoka proved once again that he's an incredibly intelligent creeper whose strong-oppponent boners still make me laugh and feel violated at the same time. Also, the fact that he still seems incredibly lethal among the all-powerful Spiders is just amazing in general. (I can't say that I felt this way in the 1999 version since Chrollo stole the spotlight for me back then) Killua, on the other hand, proved once again that in spite of his cold-hearted assassin side, he has a soft side for his friends, especially Gon. I love how much Killua opposed the idea of Gon fighting against the Spiders and even urged Kurapika (in his mind) to not get Gon involved. I especially loved his reaction when Kurapika told Gon that the mission was going to be dangerous (or something like that) and Killua thought "That's what he wants to hear!!" XD Heck, all of Killua's reactions were very adorable here! One more thing, Gon is so adorable as well! Gon and Killua are definitely my two most favorite characters in this series! Appreciated the sweet-sounding violins when Kurapika and Gon(-tachi?) were conversing. Delicate moment, there, and precious in its rarity. |
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