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Jul 7, 2008 2:41 PM
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interesting i am waiting to see what happens next
Jul 7, 2008 7:23 PM
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So a guy who relies on statistics tries the most statistically improbable strategy available? What awful writing.
Jul 9, 2008 5:05 AM
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When I was watching, I was thinking "No way. Is he aiming for a triple play?" I haven't even seen one yet in a game I am watching (except for those in youtube and archives). And then, "that happened." Wow. A triple play. Well, this is anime. Anything's possible.
Jul 11, 2008 2:07 PM
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ive gotten really good at ignoring the many errors the writers commit during the baseball sequences.

so i liked the episode.
Apr 16, 2010 1:33 AM
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I'll be glad to see Goro actually having to listen to a catcher for once, but I don't like the new guy and I have no illusions that their current relationship will continue. its practically guaranteed that Keane will join Goro's fan club by the end of the season.

btw, it wasn't that Keane was going for the triple, he just got super lucky. in point of fact, he wasn't expecting that ball to be hit at all.
Apr 30, 2012 12:14 PM
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That was entertaining, albeit a little Farfetch'd, but triple plays happen a few times a season.
May 6, 2012 1:49 AM
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Wow isn't that victory a grand one?
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May 30, 2012 12:54 PM
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jacobpaige said:
I'll be glad to see Goro actually having to listen to a catcher for once, but I don't like the new guy and I have no illusions that their current relationship will continue. its practically guaranteed that Keane will join Goro's fan club by the end of the season.

btw, it wasn't that Keane was going for the triple, he just got super lucky. in point of fact, he wasn't expecting that ball to be hit at all.


Yeah I agree that triple wasn't what he was going for
Jul 17, 2013 12:57 AM
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oh boy, we have another ass catcher on our hands. This isn't going to end well.
Dec 10, 2013 5:57 AM

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well the new catcher thoroughly annoyed me. I don't like him. Although Goro does need to follow the catchers lead, there are better ways he could have gone about the situation. no one likes demands I'm sure if he asked nicely and let Goro have a say every now and then they could have worked something out. but by being an asshat he ruined that shit and I hope he doesn't form a battery with him at all.

Jan 15, 2014 1:10 AM

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Battery conflict.. that Keane is statistically good and he got super lucky with that Triple play (although impossible but still interesting). And I am already in Season 4 but it seems that I just realized that Goro is pitching mostly without a signal.
Apr 6, 2014 9:05 AM

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First good episode in awhile IMO; it's nice to finally have a decent antagonist that's fun to hate. The guy's a huge dick, but I gotta admit that triple play was really cool to watch.
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bluethree said:
So a guy who relies on statistics tries the most statistically improbable strategy available? What awful writing.


Exactly this.
Jan 4, 2015 5:00 PM

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Marloges said:
bluethree said:
So a guy who relies on statistics tries the most statistically improbable strategy available? What awful writing.


Exactly this.
Didn't they also have the morale of the story for another previous episode (the one where Sata fails miserably in the practice game) that relying on statistics can lead to disastrous results? This is like the opposite of that episode.
Jul 2, 2015 5:40 PM

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Man, what a dangerous play. Of course, when the base are full, it raise the chance of a triple play, but it also raise the risk of allowing a point. I guess he must really not trust Goro at all to make that plan. The only way he could cancel that bet is if Kean get in the Major...

I also feel really bad for Sanders. He's probably in his few last years, if he ends them on the bench... That's an awful way to finish a career.
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Jul 24, 2015 9:25 AM

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bluethree said:
So a guy who relies on statistics tries the most statistically improbable strategy available? What awful writing.


LMFAO. so you retards are complaining that a fictional show with fictional characters are doing things that are a little "unrealistic"? it's not like a triple play is impossible, and it's certainly not impossible for an exaggerated fictional character. an exaggerated fictional show with exaggerated fictional characters. it's all about the spectacle and entertainment, not about how realistic or "probable" it is.
Aug 8, 2015 3:36 PM

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Hmm, good episode, disappointing to see Gorou playing so unexceptionally
Nov 14, 2015 11:01 PM

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Tyestor said:
bluethree said:
So a guy who relies on statistics tries the most statistically improbable strategy available? What awful writing.


LMFAO. so you retards are complaining that a fictional show with fictional characters are doing things that are a little "unrealistic"? it's not like a triple play is impossible, and it's certainly not impossible for an exaggerated fictional character. an exaggerated fictional show with exaggerated fictional characters. it's all about the spectacle and entertainment, not about how realistic or "probable" it is.


I second this



God, when they decided the bet I paused the video and kept on repeating "Such a stupid bet, such a stupid bet, such a stupid bet"....
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Feb 29, 2016 4:51 PM
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goro should've listened to him from the start and not act like a dumbass. yea i feel bad for old mustache guy too but its not little league and only best get to play

also i dont understand people who cry about major being unrealistic. tell me 1 sports anime that isnt unrealistic, or better yet ,TELL ME ONE ANIME
Apr 25, 2016 3:39 AM

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I feel bad about Sanders being benched but I like Keane a lot, he's awesome.
Sep 6, 2017 2:11 AM

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Eh. While it's true that Keane is a bit blunt, I don't think his insistence on Gorou following his directing was inappropriate at all. Gorou let his ego get the better of him. It was clear after the first hit that Keane knew what he was doing; Gorou should have followed his leading after seeing that instead of making that dumb bet, because now he won't be able to push it if there's a situation where he strongly disagrees with Keane.

For those wondering about statistics, I have two things to say: Firstly, Toshiya is making general calls based on his (very good) intuition; he's not memorizing statistics to the degree of knowing batting averages for certain pitches and under specific conditions. As such I'm confident that Keane is a much better catcher than Toshiya, and he probably won't have too much trouble moving up to the Majors after some time. Secondly, the triple play was a fluke. Keane wasn't expecting the ball to be hit at all in that situation, which demonstrates the limits of predicting based on statistics. You might be right most of the time, but even then you won't always be right. Further, a self-aware/analytical batter might discern their weak points being targeted and be able to use that to their advantage, even if they aren't a slugger.

What gets me is that Gorou was being uncooperative with Keane for petty reasons. It's not like he had a strong desire to face a batter Keane was calling balls for before the bet, for example. He was just butting egos, and now he's gone and completely shut off dialogue between them because of that dumb bet.

So yeah, I don't exactly like Keane's attitude, but I think more of the blame should fall on Gorou here.
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I think catchers and pitchers that can't synergize personally will fall apart fairly quickly. If you personally don't like a teammate it will just be harder for you to play your best. Unless both of them get over their differences Sanders needs to catch for Goro
Aug 3, 2020 2:39 PM

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i really feel pity for sanders, though kaene is good or not, it's no fair for sandres that worked hard to get the team pump.
and kaene remind me too much toshi's strategy, goro as usual making stupid uproar, i hope kaene will be more likeable next episodes.
Apr 15, 2021 10:09 PM
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weedie said:
goro should've listened to him from the start and not act like a dumbass. yea i feel bad for old mustache guy too but its not little league and only best get to play

also i dont understand people who cry about major being unrealistic. tell me 1 sports anime that isnt unrealistic, or better yet ,TELL ME ONE ANIME


Diamond no ace is pretty realistic. Maybe besides certain character batting averages.
Oct 18, 2021 4:49 AM

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Ironic how Goro got mad at Keane for being a big-mouthed rookie considering he's the same, but I gotta admit Keane seems quite the ass.

Jun 12, 2022 9:22 AM

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A lot of people complaining about the "strategy of a triple out is absurd" when Kane wasn't trying to do that. I mean, people who are complaining about that were watching the same chapter? Because he says the big guy isn't gonna hit the ball.


Anyway, this show has... too many annoying people. In this chapter, Kane was annoying, but, to be fair, Goro was too.
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Keane is going to be an instressing character.
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