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Émilia Hoarfrost

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Hi y'all, how would you rate your empathy?
Is it even useful to do?
Do you consider yourself the bleeding heart type, or the sociopath type?
Do you cry easily for others?
Is it indiscriminate, are there biases like species, nation...?

I know a girl that's so empathic she's a vegan even in Minecraft and tried to free my chickens from me. Personally don't really eat meat except fish and eggs and that's mostly due to pollution or consumption or whatever, though I think market economics is what really forbids the world to solve hunger... I feel like I'm kinda empathic except I lose empathy for people that I believe have overstepped moral boundaries...



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inb4 millions edgy replies of self diagnosed sociopaths

As for me, normal empathy though I am the type of person that feels more sorrow for a large scale impersonal tragedy than a personal tragedy. I do discriminate I guess, I tend to empathize way more when those being mistreated are young but I feel like that's natural.

I feel like I'm kinda empathic except I lose empathy for people that I believe have overstepped moral boundaries...

I think that's a healthy outlook.
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I’d say I lean more towards being the sociopath type in terms of empathy, meaning I’m not overly emotional. I recognize that there are a lot of bad things happening in the world, and it’s not that I’m ignoring them or that I only care about myself. But honestly, I just don’t feel the need to get overly concerned or emotional, especially about things that don’t directly affect me or the people I’m close to.

For example, I can read about a natural disaster happening in another country and understand that it’s a horrible situation, but I won’t necessarily feel deep sadness or stress over it. It’s like I’m aware of the suffering, but it doesn’t hit me on a personal level. I think part of it is that there’s so much going on all the time, and if I got emotional about everything, it would be overwhelming. Instead, I focus on what’s closer to me, like my friends, family, and my own life.

It’s not that I don’t care at al. I can sympathize and even take action if I feel it’s necessary, like donating to a charity or helping out someone in need (if I can).
But at the end of the day, I just don’t let myself get too wrapped up in things that are beyond my control or too far removed from my own life.

Also wtf. That Minecraft thing really left me gobsmacked
Yesterday, 1:23 PM
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I noticed many people here have little empathy with blood relatives in love, so mine is seemingly above average.
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If a personality trait [if it's consider like that] is supposed to be useful than I'd rather have all of the useless one, what's the point of being yourself if it's considered of being useful or not?

From my personal experience I'd say my empathy is high [IRL as in Internet interactions I'm more skeptical and cautious], whenever there's a conversation about less pleasent topics in which someone tells his/her bad story, as painful as it sounds that's how painful it feels to me whenever I get to know someone's experience of that.

Although there's certain groups of people for whom I have no respect, no mercy, no tolerancy and I don't wish anything positive for them.
Yesterday, 2:21 PM
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I noticed many people here have little empathy with blood relatives in love, so mine is seemingly above average.
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yet another great take. People hate seeing pure love these days!
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EmiliaHoarfrost said:
I know a girl that's so empathic she's a vegan even in Minecraft and tried to free my chickens from me.

Sounds like mental illness really. Cannot separate video games from reality. I'd be building a multi-storey abattoir next to her home.
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I'm a very bad judge of myself and my empathy fluctuates with my mood.

Some days I am overwhelmed with love and empathy for everything around me and other days I wish suffering on others and am more callous than I should be. It is what it is but I feel like I care when it matters.



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I don't know. It doesn't feel like enough but on every online test I score higher than the male and female average.
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I scored low on the psychopathy test online. Not even close to a psychopath.
Yesterday, 11:23 PM

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Unfortunately I'm very empathetic..
I get sad at every negative things and constantly wishing that there was no illness and diseases or some elixir of eternal youth and life..
I'm also scared of prophecy of climate change induced disasters..
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My empathy is very distorted in a way. I can feel empathy even for the worst criminal minds at times, but other times I fail to feel empathy for average individuals of society. I think my brain has started to recognize normal humans as dull, unapologetic creatures, which has made be a bit indifferent towards certain people no matter how terrible their circumstances may be.
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on a scale of 1-10 I think in general im a 10 (bleeding heart type)
I cry a lot in movies pretty much any time there is a sad scene. I cry watching sad commercials, etc.

I definitely do have my exceptions. I'm not vegan, & culturally that'd be weird for me.
As far as for people, the most recent example is – those who are guilty of a crime with no remorse, and a "difficult" childhood – I simply do not care, because they also do not care.

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Unfortunately I'm very empathetic..
I get sad at every negative things and constantly wishing that there was no illness and diseases or some elixir of eternal youth and life..
I'm also scared of prophecy of climate change induced disasters..
@RainyEvenings I agree!

..but an elixir for life... I dont really want to live forever
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i got low empathy due to schizophrenia
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im a little too empathetic thats why i never really faught (or defended myself for that matter) cuz i didnt want to hit another person lol
other than that just yesterday my day was ruined and i cried a whole bunch cuz i saw a dead cat on the street
and i think my empathy shows in my beliefs too - such as the belief that everybody deserves a home even if theyre a drunk and theyll destroy it or something
all the while most of the people believe that if somebodys a mess like that they deserve nothing
oh and i also dont really want a peoples to be genocided and dont believe that an entire peoples are subhuman or something and thats actually a pretty popular belief that i think is quite unempathetic
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7-8 on a 1-10 scale maybe, have no idea really, highly depends on my mood. How can you measure that?
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I don't know how to rate it.
I think I'm pretty sensitive and hate seeing people suffering, although realistically I don't think I'm capable of offering much help in my position.
I don't want to be seen as a soft touch either though, as I know how bad that can be. My mother was like this massively, and I think if she was a little more selfish/focused on us, her family, her case might have been more successful. Others tagged along with my mother, and dropped off when they got what they wanted, and nobody came back to help my mother. Heck she didn't even want to pile on more pressure to the hospital where Lucy Letby is said to have killed babies, as it was the same hospital that fucked us over in the past, despite phoning them up and mentioning both those issues too them. She could tell they were shit scared, I said to jump on them, but she didn't and I don't know why, I don't know why they should be let them off with what the NHS has done do us.
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My empathy is better than that of most people TBH. I possess enough empathy to know that porn is immoral.
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My empathy is better than that of most people TBH. I possess enough empathy to know that porn is immoral.
Do you even know what empathy means?

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Commit_Crime said:
People hate seeing pure love these days!

Apparently. My country has recently criminalized cousin marriage and partnership, to reduce the amount of forced marriages in the muslim population, but they seemingly don't care about all the others who do it voluntarily, a truly stupid legislation that hurts people for the misdeeds of others.
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Commit_Crime said:
People hate seeing pure love these days!

Apparently. My country has recently criminalized cousin marriage and partnership, to reduce the amount of forced marriages in the muslim population, but they seemingly don't care about all the others who do it voluntarily, a truly stupid legislation that hurts people for the misdeeds of others.
@Zarutaku
That sounds like a pretty dumb piece of policy. Outcest supremacists everywhere :(((((
Today, 9:42 AM
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EmiliaHoarfrost said:
I know a girl that's so empathic she's a vegan even in Minecraft and tried to free my chickens from me.

Sounds like mental illness really. Cannot separate video games from reality. I'd be building a multi-storey abattoir next to her home.
@Sad Well I'm not gonna disclose all the private things she told me, but well all I'll say is she's just about the average wackiness to befriend me



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First of all... nobody can fucking agree on the definitions of sympathy and empathy. Try googling them and you will come across contradictory definitions. It's all over the place.

Discussing all of that is pretty pointless when everyone has a different concept of what empathy and sympathy means.

Here is what they taught me in high school (which can be very different from some of the definitions you'll find online):
Empathy = being able to understand how a person might feel in certain situations. For example, you're an empathetic person if you understand that another person might feel hurt if they get ignored by their group of friends.
Sympathy = taking initiative to ease someone's emotional distress.

But try googling those terms, and you will find MANY different definitions, some of which flip those 2 terms around, while others state that "to be empathetic you must not only understand another person's pain, but also EXPERIENCE their pain inside of yourself". It's all nonsensical bullshit.

Personally, I am empathetic (I understand that if I'm an asshole, I can hurt others), but I am not sympathetic (I continue to be an asshole despite knowing it will cause emotional pain to others, because I don't really care about other people's feelings).
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BigBoyAdvance said:
Personally, I am empathetic (I understand that if I'm an asshole, I can hurt others), but I am not sympathetic (I continue to be an asshole despite knowing it will cause emotional pain to others, because I don't really care about other people's feelings).

Just curious: Does that also mean you enjoy inflicting emotional pain on others?
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BigBoyAdvance said:
Discussing all of that is pretty pointless when everyone has a different concept of what empathy and sympathy means.
Exactly. The way "empathy" is used by many is completely different to the original "Æsthetic Sympathy" or "Einfühlungsvermögen", the ability to feel into another being or entity. Sympathy is btw not taking initiative to ease someone's emotional distress, it's the ability to to feel with them, so when someone is sad, you feel sad with them. The action of trying to ease the pain is compassion. What most people mean when they say "empathy" is in actual fact "sympathy" + "compassion" combined

read more:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1634283&id=51412287

https://philarchive.org/archive/NOWTCH
Today, 10:13 AM
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BigBoyAdvance said:
Discussing all of that is pretty pointless when everyone has a different concept of what empathy and sympathy means.
Exactly. The way "empathy" is used by many is completely different to the original "Æsthetic Sympathy" or "Einfühlungsvermögen", the ability to feel into another being or entity. Sympathy is btw not taking initiative to ease someone's emotional distress, it's the ability to to feel with them, so when someone is sad, you feel sad with them. The action of trying to ease the pain is compassion. What most people mean when they say "empathy" is in actual fact "sympathy" + "compassion" combined

read more:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1634283&id=51412287

https://philarchive.org/archive/NOWTCH
@Noboru Oh my god you're amazing I like you a whole lot
You really put out "Einfühlungsvermögen" all of a sudden
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BigBoyAdvance said:
Personally, I am empathetic (I understand that if I'm an asshole, I can hurt others), but I am not sympathetic (I continue to be an asshole despite knowing it will cause emotional pain to others, because I don't really care about other people's feelings).

Just curious: Does that also mean you enjoy inflicting emotional pain on others?
As long as I can get away with zero consequences, yes.

I am an empathetic sociopath, but I am also very good at self-preservation. Nothing bad ever happens to me.
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BigBoyAdvance said:
Personally, I am empathetic (I understand that if I'm an asshole, I can hurt others), but I am not sympathetic (I continue to be an asshole despite knowing it will cause emotional pain to others, because I don't really care about other people's feelings).

Just curious: Does that also mean you enjoy inflicting emotional pain on others?
@Zarutaku Emotional pain is so satisfying to inflict tho >.<



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@Noboru Oh my god you're amazing I like you a whole lot
You really put out "Einfühlungsvermögen" all of a sudden
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@EmiliaHoarfrost You're welcome and thanks
"Einfühlungsvermögen" is the original "empathy" after all
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@Zarutaku Emotional pain is so satisfying to inflict tho >.<
@EmiliaHoarfrost Understandable from a sadistic perspective, sadism seems to be a not so uncommon tendency, but it gets suppressed by the moral standards of society. So many sadists are afraid to be themselves and many masochists have troubles to find their significant others, a lose-lose situation.
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I have no idea how to answer that question, or how even measure it.
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Empathy's tricky with me, i have it for animals and the people i care about in spades, but i have minimal empathy for strangers. And to people i don't care for, i have none. I wish i did but i just sometimes feel bad that i don't feel bad.
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5/10, my empathy is mostly reserved for selected fews. i'm usually indifferent to bad things that happen to other people, but i think trying to imagine what if the bad stuff that i heard happens to me or people i care about, can help me to be somewhat empathetic. it's just that i don't do that very often
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Noboru said:
Exactly. The way "empathy" is used by many is completely different to the original "Æsthetic Sympathy" or "Einfühlungsvermögen", the ability to feel into another being or entity. Sympathy is btw not taking initiative to ease someone's emotional distress, it's the ability to to feel with them, so when someone is sad, you feel sad with them. The action of trying to ease the pain is compassion. What most people mean when they say "empathy" is in actual fact "sympathy" + "compassion" combined

read more:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1634283&id=51412287

https://philarchive.org/archive/NOWTCH

The word itself translated from the Greek 'empatheia' from 'pathos' "feeling" (from PIE root *kwent(h)- "to suffer") even though it's based on the idea of the German philosopher Rudolf Herrmann Lotze that meaning somehow carried over.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/empathy#etymonline_v_5816

Also in psychology there is different subtypes of empathy.

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