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Aug 29, 2021 6:00 AM
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Oh boy, the goal to capture Alicia was on Siesta's mind all along. This episode shows that she always comes prepared or at least knows her agenda when it comes to her own goals.

The action was alright I guess and Charlotte also came back! Tbh, I think Siesta really knows how to deal with her problems but Kimishito also helped her a lot.
Aug 29, 2021 6:00 AM
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they goes to the island, and that was the SPES headquarters, Kimihiko, Charlotte, and Siesta went to the island, against biological weapons and Hel, it was really exciting, It's just that the moment seems bland, yeah I don't feel anything about this scene, it's really bad. These are just memories of Kimihiko, And this is the reason why the detective died.

And also Tantei wa mou Shindeiru, JK. 6 episode for flashback, wow


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Aug 29, 2021 6:48 AM
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I feel like this show just used all of its animation budget in that first episode. There hasn't been a single episode where I've been blown away by the action scenes of this show. It feels so plain for some reason. We got to see Seed, Chameleon, and Hel in this episode. Basically, the whole side cast was here.

So... this was the episode where Siesta died by Hel's hands. Sad to see that Kimihiko never got to hug Siesta after all this time.
Aug 29, 2021 6:49 AM
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So all this thing was just him remembering about his past? Anyway this is how Siesta really died I guess, kinda sad to die easily like that against the monster and Hel who stole her heart, they couldn't even cuddle before her death :/
Aug 29, 2021 6:58 AM
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I guess the trip down memory lane is over now. Ngl this anime had me hyped since the light novels were apparently good, but the action falls flat and I'm pretty much only in it for the light romance aspect of it at this point, and the sporadic comedy. The suspense isn't really impressive right now, hope it gets better since the show has a lot of promise!
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Aug 29, 2021 7:02 AM
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Aperently they cut best and biggest moment in whole story, fuck you Kadokawa.
Aug 29, 2021 7:02 AM
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So is this the conclusion they wanted to show us. After all that build-up, each week waiting for the climax..And it just felt so unimpactful..Now what. Just waiting to see how it will conclude.

Aug 29, 2021 7:04 AM
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We finally got to see how Siesta died and damn it was brutal.
Aug 29, 2021 7:05 AM
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BlackBird1234 said:
Aperently they cut best and biggest moment in whole story, fuck you Kadokawa.

Well, can you tell me what is it? Just curious...
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Aug 29, 2021 7:06 AM

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ALIENS???? But they weren't experiments? God, what they have smoked to do this...

They are in the middle of the most important battle of their lives and they start playing boyfriend and girlfriend. Nonsense

Ehh, the best part of this episode was the flashbacks to the animation of episode 1
Well, she died, honestly, it's not worth watching the whole story with the loli for this ._.
Aug 29, 2021 7:07 AM
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Well he finally remember what happened. I expect it to be a bit slower, but didn’t expect the flashback is almost over(pretty sure 1 more episode). This is not all what he remembered tho, there will be a bit more.
Animation wise, wow the studio decide to spend more money on SoL part than action huh. I expect the action to be better than this, but oh well.
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Aug 29, 2021 7:09 AM
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I hope Hel slowly dies in the next episode
Aug 29, 2021 7:10 AM
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BlackBird1234 said:
Aperently they cut best and biggest moment in whole story, fuck you Kadokawa.
If its
I think they will include it in next episode. Because its pointless if that part dont get put in. And from what I remembered, Kimizuka remembered that part when he is with the other girls, so it make sense that he wont remember it now.
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HabibSuperb said:
BlackBird1234 said:
Aperently they cut best and biggest moment in whole story, fuck you Kadokawa.

Well, can you tell me what is it? Just curious...
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Aug 29, 2021 7:23 AM

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The detectives are finally on their way to SPES HQ to save Alicia, and Siesta is still acting motherly towards Kimihiko.

The Parent "Seed" gracing both Kimizuka and Charlotte to expunge its meanings of its terrorist attacks with many of its biological offsprings, and Siesta still treats this as if she's playing with Kimihiko on a date. Are they really taking their job seriously with the spliced-in light teasing romance?

The action between Hel and Siesta isn't so hot either, and neither is the suspense to lead Kimizuka astray. Siesta has figured out Hel's lie in wanting to be part of SPES, and even until the end, the trust bond of the 2 broke her apart. In the end, how Siesta went truly "already dead" is by Hel's hands, acquiring her heart in the process. All of that hence thus far in the anime has been a flashback (minus Nagisa and Yui's episodes), and this only raises more questions than answers.

My only question now is how did Nagisa acquired Siesta's heart through transplant, if Hel was the one that took it?
Aug 29, 2021 7:32 AM

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Well, some good old fanservice in the beginning. It's time to recover Hel/Alicia.
Seems like the ''Seeds'' are similar to the ''Otsutsuki''. Planting seeds and trying to survive. Siesta plans everything beforehand. Always knows what to do and what to expect. Siesta will die in this arc..

Nagisa is Hell's split personality afterall. It's way too obvious after this episode.
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Aug 29, 2021 7:32 AM

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Here we saw that Hel took Siesta's heart then what about Nagisa??
Wasn’t Siesta the heart donor of nagisa.
Now i wanna know how Nagisa got that heart from Hel
Or should I say what's goin' on🥴
Aug 29, 2021 7:36 AM
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Isnt it too easy to answer this question? With that resemblance and where the heart is.
Aug 29, 2021 7:40 AM

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Bit by bit we're finally getting to know what SPES really is and what they're planning with killing innocent people in the process

That first scene when Siesta was lying on the ground was unbelievable and I knew it from the start Kimizuka almost kissed Siesta, These action scenes are really lacking like its quality is decreasing but at least Kimizuka put in more effort here and give off more expressions rather than just monotone dialogues

So this is how it ended insert Siesta is already dead jokes here like in that brief moment that's how she died and I'm more curious what Hel's planning after that.
Aug 29, 2021 7:44 AM
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Here we saw that Hel took Siesta's heart then what about Nagisa??
Wasn’t Siesta the heart donor of nagisa.
Now i wanna know how Nagisa got that heart from Hel
Or should I say what's goin' on🥴


It would mean Nagisa is Hel or Hel is Nagisa...
Aug 29, 2021 7:49 AM

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This show is so fucking pathetic. I feel sorry for it.
Aug 29, 2021 8:15 AM
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that resemblance is a hint, and this ep how siesta died is a reveal. So it means at the end of this ep, no need to hide mystery about who nagisa is.
Aug 29, 2021 8:20 AM
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The detectives are finally on their way to SPES HQ to save Alicia, and Siesta is still acting motherly towards Kimihiko.

The Parent "Seed" gracing both Kimizuka and Charlotte to expunge its meanings of its terrorist attacks with many of its biological offsprings, and Siesta still treats this as if she's playing with Kimihiko on a date. Are they really taking their job seriously with the spliced-in light teasing romance?

The action between Hel and Siesta isn't so hot either, and neither is the suspense to lead Kimizuka astray. Siesta has figured out Hel's lie in wanting to be part of SPES, and even until the end, the trust bond of the 2 broke her apart. In the end, how Siesta went truly "already dead" is by Hel's hands, acquiring her heart in the process. All of that hence thus far in the anime has been a flashback (minus Nagisa and Yui's episodes), and this only raises more questions than answers.

My only question now is how did Nagisa acquired Siesta's heart through transplant, if Hel was the one that took it?


I think Hel and Nagisa are one and the same. They really look alike that much.
Aug 29, 2021 8:26 AM

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Thanks, I hated it!

Seriously they decided to introduce aliens now out of nowhere, and the way Siesta dies is so emotionless, wtf happened to this anime?
Aug 29, 2021 8:27 AM

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Ah, all this was a flashback. So this is how Siesta died, after all, kinda disappointing. Damn, Kimizuka should've taken Siesta's offer to hug. Now the question is, what's Nagisa?
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Aug 29, 2021 8:45 AM

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We got to see how Siesta died, and how Kimizuka couldn't do a thing to save her from Hel.
Maybe now we'll continue from the present timeline, where Charlotte was about to meet Kimizuka.
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Aug 29, 2021 8:54 AM

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It's astounding how bad this show continues to get week after week. I can't think of a single reason I'd ever recommend it to anyone. The dialogue remains terrible, the animation is bad, the plot elements are nonsense, and everything that's supposed to be emotional completely fails to land.

For something that exists to promote the source material, it's done a horrible job, because all it's done is make me believe the source material is probably also crap.
Aug 29, 2021 9:14 AM
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So anyone can explain me why they Tamil letters in a cryptic way or as Tamil speaker why they they are using wrong spelling for actual words at the next episode title cards.
Aug 29, 2021 9:15 AM

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I got sad after seeing Siesta laying emotionless on the floor playing dead (it felt very realistic). What really broke my heart was seeing how she really died, which was very brutal and hard to watch ;-;

Now I have my doubts about Nagisa and Hel. If they are the same person, that'll change the whole story!

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Aug 29, 2021 9:55 AM

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So we found out how Siesta died finally I guess. This flashback arc took 6 or more episodes as well… wow. The action scenes haven’t been all that great either. Just going to finish this series to say I’ve watched it all I suppose lol.
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Aug 29, 2021 10:01 AM

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So the great detective Siesta dies just like that!? There wasn't even a single drop of blood coming out of her till that weird guy ripped out her heart. I couldn't feel a thing about her death. The story is very bland and the supernatural aspects just make it worse.
Aug 29, 2021 10:04 AM

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Damn I was hoping for a more climatic send off between kimi and siesta, this felt pretty disappointing. He never even got to really express himself to her. This was a pretty lacklustre conclusion to her arc..

Not to mention aliens?? Like the supernatural stuff in this show has been really weird, and not in a good way.
Aug 29, 2021 10:04 AM
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Ehhh this show... I feel like with each week the episodes get worse and worse, the "emotional" scenes don't land at all. It sucks cause when I first started watching it, this anime looked interesting. I'll still watch it till the end but I don't think it's possible to save this anymore...
Aug 29, 2021 11:19 AM

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All this flashback to show us how Siesta died and.....that was it? There wasn't really any sort of impact it just kind of happened.
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Aug 29, 2021 12:00 PM

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Huh. I guess it explains why I thought Hel looks like short haired Nagisa. If not all the aliens and other BS, that'd be a pretty nice plot twist.
Aug 29, 2021 12:06 PM

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All this flashback to show us how Siesta died and.....that was it? There wasn't really any sort of impact it just kind of happened.


I believe, all of this was really to show how Nagisa got her heart transplant more than to show how Siesta died. That feels like a much bigger reveal to me.
Aug 29, 2021 12:28 PM
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thebrentinator24 said:
All this flashback to show us how Siesta died and.....that was it? There wasn't really any sort of impact it just kind of happened.


I believe, all of this was really to show how Nagisa got her heart transplant more than to show how Siesta died. That feels like a much bigger reveal to me.

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Aug 29, 2021 12:47 PM

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This is the worst anime I've ever seen and I watched Pupa.
Aug 29, 2021 12:48 PM
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This season is already dead.
Aug 29, 2021 1:01 PM
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So nagisa is hel.... Am I wrong...??
Aug 29, 2021 2:08 PM

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Well, Hel being Nagisa is confirmed; the girl with Siesta's heart in Alicia's body...

How the hell did Siesta stop her heart at will?


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Aug 29, 2021 2:32 PM

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I can't believe it, in the first scene when Siesta wanted a hug from Kimizuka, it suddenly felt like there's something bad that's going to happen later. Now that my hunch was right, I can't understand why Kimizuka was so stubborn not give Siesta what she wants. Like, is he dumb? Even Charlotte was wise enough to understand. I can't help it, that's the way his character was written. I guess the episodes have come to a full circle, it's back to the present where the detective is already dead. 😭
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So we finally find out after 8 episodes since the introduction episode on how Siesta died and it was hell taking Siesta's heart. That confirms that Nagisa is an alter-ego of Hel as well.

Didn't like this episode at all, definitely felt like something was missing.. Tension, feels. Just felt lackluster.
Aug 29, 2021 3:02 PM
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Show degraded more than my sandwich I still have in my 3rd grade backpack from 9 years ago
Aug 29, 2021 3:21 PM

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Hmm.. this was what we were waiting for huh. Unfortunately underwhelming.
Aug 29, 2021 3:30 PM

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I swear the plot is so fucking absurd.

The whole heart stealing raises so many questions, is Nagisa actually Hel then? Like some kind of third personality I suppose...
Aug 29, 2021 4:22 PM
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Noooooooooo too bad
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That's amazing!
If I recall correctly we've already been blessed to see:
-Detective Siesta
-Comfy Siesta
-Schoolgirl Siesta
-Catgirl Maid Siesta (in mc's imagination but still)
-Bride Siesta
-Swimsuit Siesta
-Mecha Siesta
-Injured Hoodie Siesta

Oh it's the episode discussion... yeah nothing to say


The list extends with drunk bathrobe siesta


Looks like the list won't extend anytime soon.
Aug 29, 2021 4:26 PM

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Seista dies from a pretty dumb trope that made worse from being used in a context that doesn't even fucking work. The entire thing depends on one of the characters being unaware of or is unable to move away the thing that is about to kill them. Literally Kimi and Seista both saw that giant ass monster come out at the same time and could have easily both ran away from it.
Aug 29, 2021 5:01 PM
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Oh no, its about alien invasion after all. Talks about surprise motherfucker. Seed, the father of Hel, the founder of Spes, like, what? He just vanished without saying good bye? No way, Father!

I like how the show become so self-aware with their wtf dialogues. That's the only good thing about this episode, funny as hell. Yes, hell, not Hel. Like how Hel said, 'What nonsense is that?' 'isn't that a little convenient for you?', and then Siesta sprawled on the ground saving Kimi zuka for whatever times has been done. But, this time, looks like its the real end for whatever times has been done. Yeah, its a nonsense. But at least Charlotte was so god damn good with her body, especially after she had a good fun times with that Chameleon dude, alone. You get it? Look at her expression after leaving that hangar.

About the after match. Looks like something messing up the mc's mind. I dunno shit about that. Then based on every details they are trying hard to laid on, Hel might became the real partner of Kimi, until Char arrived at the latest episode before this messy kind of backstories. I dunno....
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Siesta's death being ripped out of his heart with Kimihiko trying to attack his enemy with a very tense situation.
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