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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- holy sh*t Niji is one f*cked up person, how could he do that to poor Cosette...? who would have thought Judge was actually a renowned scientist alongside Vegapunk, very interesting indeed... now we know where Germa's soldiers come from, that's pretty crazy Sanji kicking Niji in the face at the end felt really satisfying to me, that guy is despicable |
| Episode was really crazy. Bet a lot of people must be a little shocked about what was revealed. |
| Dayum, sanji gave no fucks and just kicked neiji in the face xD |
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| The kick is good. :D |
| Well Sanji's family is in the top 10 f*cked up families of all time... |
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| Good episode. Nami the real MVP here, she's totally dominating the homies. xDD The truth behind Germa 66 and their army revealed, the science of cloning. Niji sucks, he deserves every bit of Sanji's rage for beating up Cosette-chane. That kick to the face at the end was so good. I already know the next episode is gonna get me all emotional. :3 |
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| When I was reading this chapter I was pissed, now after seeing this episode I'm even more pissed... At least I was able to see a wonderful kick. 4/5 |
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| I want the Vinsmoke family gone! I haven't seen in a while such a lame and despicable family. Way to go Nami, she knows how to order them. |
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| Nami was awesome bossing the homies around. Dat ending! I was so happy seeing Sanji kicking Niji in the face! |
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| Tbh, I figured they were genetically created or cloned. They seemed very receptive and similar to each other |
| Judge was/is a good scientist and he's doing fighting too now. Nami keeping luffy safe for now. |
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| Think Oda got the idea from watching the prequels? |
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| That was a close call for Luffy. Nami helping him was perfect timing. Her method to control the homies and her gestures during that is so funny :D How fucked up can someone be to hit a woman into unconsciousness? I was soooo mad at this scene. That's something I hate the most and I had the same reaction as Sanji. We heard some pretty interesting things. Really unexpected that Judge was a scientist and worked together with Vegapunk. So the Germa 66 army is made by clones? So it doesn't matter for them how much soldiers they lose. No wonder they're feared so much. Cracker is no joke and doesn't hesitate to kill someone. At this point what will Nami do? Luffy needs more time but she's absolutely no match for Cracker. I'm a little bit scared for her. I can't describe how good I felt when Sanji kicked Nijis face. Next time we hear more about Sanjis past? That will definitely be interesting. Can't wait to see it. |
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| With that preview , I couldn't be more hyped for the next episode . |
| The kick is up, and it's GOOD!!!! |
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| I seriously think Sanji can beat the living hell out of his douche brothers even while blindfolded. He's crazy strong and those punks rely heavily on their technology and without those power suits or boots or whatever, they're nothing. Even when he fought his father I felt like he was holding back. |
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| Niji is yet another son of a bitch that needs taking down. That kick at the end was great, but obviously it's just the start. |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Fuck yeah Sanji!! This upcoming fight is gonna be awesome!!! |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| I was sure that Niji would dodge. That kick was kinda surprising, but so satisfying. I can't wait for Sanji to beat the crap out of his brothers. |
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| well I was wondering how worse can they be but this explains why the sanji family has no regards of human life...they see it as dispensable stash |
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| Wow, Sanji kicked him in the face. I still don't know if Sanji is stronger than his siblings but his father is really strong. This episode showed a bit of socioeconomic differences and supremacy. |
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| So as I thought those dumb trees and flower rescue Luffy instead of just running away from Nami... makes no sense at all, but whatever. |
| Poor Cosette! I could totally ship her with Sanji if they had more scenes together. |
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| Cant wait for the "10 minutes" that Luffy needs to recover to be stretched out in 5 episodes! Niji obviously deserved that kick, scumbag that he is. |
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| I want to start with my criticism over Luffy’s ten minute nerf after using gear 4. I don’t think I was ever clear enough with this and don’t just want to fling terms such as ‘contrived’ or ‘artificial’ at it. What I mean by being annoyed when it comes to this, more bothered than most decisions in One Piece that have annoyed me, is that it kills the excitement of a fight. This is One Piece, it’s not the most subversive story ever, we know Luffy will typically win the fights and we can predict their outcomes even if we don’t understand how he will get there. Yet, introducing this mechanic which my friend compared to ‘charging ki’ is such a clear way to predict everything about Luffy’s fights. Luffy will struggle, get tired, wait exactly 10 minutes which is quite cheesy in itself, then wake up and win the fight after being saved and out of commission to build really artificial tension. The question of ‘how will the fight go’ is diminished further. If Oda does something interesting with this mechanic, I’ll eat these words, I just find it to be a huge pet peeve at the moment. At least Nami did show her cruelty, guts, and loyalty as she saved Luffy, and we got some good Carrot and Chopper stuff too. That is, we saw Duval the 2nd, another ugly Sanji look alike, and then they overheard the news of where Sanji is located all while being chased by an enemy in her own territory, with shackles on slowing their movement at that. This kind of three sided conflict in close proximity is fun. Chopper and Carrot's side of things is also kind of scary and the duo involved are so cute. The furry, excitable, fighting babies who would do anything for their friends. What’s not to love! To talk more on why I enjoy the Vinsmoke family as antagonists, we need to look no further than the Cosette beating scene. They are so silly and over the top, their designs, their squeaky shoes, their relentless pride. However, they are grounded in a way in which I feel makes them never cross the line of unbelievable. We saw how the kids were raised. We saw what Judge values and his motivations and how stern and mean he could be. We saw how since they were children, Judge told them they were better than other people. These are prideful people that seem as if they were raised on an idea of strength and pride above everything else. It’s why when insulted, Niji can be such a pompous prick that he would beat a defenseless woman for humiliating him by proxy, assuming there is more reason than luring Sanji to the vault. It’s why Judge can be such an unloving and stern jerk. It’s a nice balance of zany and reasonable evil that the Vinsmokes strike and it gives them a pretty unique presence and identity. This also led into a brilliant kick to the face. That felt good. But, what were you expecting, Niji?! The other aspect I should speak on is Judge’s past with Vegapunk and their clone soldiers. This rubbed me the wrong way immediately. I really don’t like brainwashing, or mind control or the likes of controlling people in fiction. I am interested in fanatical followers inspired by power, fear, charisma, etc. But when it’s stated that they are 100% fearless and loyal because they are clones, that’s when I feel a loss of interest, the fun stops there. I do not think this is going to be boring no matter what, I know very little about what Oda is doing with this topic. In fact, it could pursue some fascinating ideas about self identity and personhood, the clones supposedly don’t even know that they are clones if I read correctly. I just wanted to mention that some warning alarms went off in my head. The other important thing about this is: 1. Caesar was also Vegapunk’s ally at one point and he is here and could potentially tap into this system that Judge has created, and 2. Yonji telling Sanji about this is quite bad for Germa 66. Sanji is a tactifican, he understands the scenario he is in, and he acts quickly and effectively to dismantle situations that seem difficult in a matter of moments. Will we perhaps get some more teamwork between Sanji and Caesar? |
| I wonder who is Sanji's mother and if he is so ruthless as his brother, sister and father Kracker-Kun it's pretty powerfull can't wait for luffy to kick his ass. |
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| Now this is what I like to call "messed up".. Damn Germa 66, what do they think humans are... That Niji be doing such inhumane things but I am not surprised since nobody seems to be humane in that family except Sanji and probably his mother we havent seen yet (?) |
| Nami's really taking advantage of Big Mom's Vivre Card but it looks like it can only be relied on for so long. Let's hope that 10 minutes have passed already~ Niji really did end up beating Cosette to a pulp, fucking hell... I'm definitely looking forward to Sanji kicking his ass more than anything else at the moment! No wonder Germa soldiers are so damn disposable lmao |
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| That kick was so satisfying. Niji is a bastard. |
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| Kick Niji's ass Sanji |
| so happy that kick connected, filth. |
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| random episode to post this on but i want to post it somewhere and it's my last episode for the night so i figured it's as good as any. anyway, i read the manga last year in like a little over a month and it became my absolute favorite thing ever. decided to pick up the anime earlier this year because i wanted to get all the one piece i could. i took a decently methodical pace (about 6 episodes a day) for the most part but ran into some consistency issues the last month or so. i realized last week that the anime would be adapting gear 5 soon and to find out it'll be on august 6th. i was over 300 episodes behind so it wasn't looking good to catch up by then but i decided to throw everything else i'm watching and reading aside to focus solely on this and the past couple days i've been racking them off in hope i can be completely caught up in a little less than 3 weeks. should be fun, i'm confident i can do it. at the pace of the past few days, i'll even have a few days to spare haha |
| I might starting to hate Vinsmoke Family as much as i hate Celestial Dragons. They are disgusting!! Vegapunk was mentioned again this episode. Give me more info about him. |
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| Man Sanji family just the worst, but blue hair brother is the worse of the worst. It was so satisfying seeing Sanji kick him. I feel like he could beat any of the 3 by themselves, but all 3 at once will be tough. The minute saw the factory I knew it be cloned. Major Star Wars vibes plus order 66 and Gemma 66 to on the nose. Oda might of got some of the inspiration from it. |
| If we can only be allowed the satisfation of one of the Germa 66 family kicking the bucket by the end of this arc, I hope damn well int's Niji. Even moreso than Judge. Letting us see the kick at the end was a very satisfying end, and we've already seen how he was able to dent up Yonji's head. Betting that Sanji and his siblings were the first phase of the cloning program and likely derived directly from Judge himself. Question though will be how Sanji ended up so different and also why Reiju was the only daughter. Hope they stop stalling with Cracker's abilities and just tell us what's up with that aura effect. Considering who he is and what it's affecting, I doubt it's Conqueror Haki. Is it some side use of his biscuit power that's drying up all the plants in the area like Crocodile can do? |
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