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Tomoe said: ScrumYummy said: Can you really treasure someone when you're sleeping with that many people? D: I prefer Nana and Nobuo, they seem more natural. but he treats her differently than other women, what he really wants is a family and he is aware of that having a family can happen only with Hachi, but of course yeah I can't understand the thing mainly between Reira and Takumi but when he gets back to home he becomes totally different and gentle man, I think he actually goes back and forth between his work and the people in it on the otherside his home. his personality changes. Maybe it is to escape from whatever he feels about Reira. I don't know but actually I like very similar guy like Takumi not as much as he is of course, so then this may be the reason why I support Hachi and Takumi, I prefer the difficulty... Maybe I am a fool but you can't choose the person to love, right=) whatever don't listen to me, I said a lot that is not about the manga=) I don't doubt that Takumi has feelings for Hachi, and that he does care for her. But he has a powerful connection to Reira. There is history there. There is also at least one other woman that he sees on a regular basis and obviously has feelings for. In that case, I don't think that he is the best person for Hatchi. And actually, it's interesting that you compare your Hatchi/Takumi fandom to your real-life situation. Because the guy I married is a lot like Nobu. XD So maybe I relate to Hatchi/Nobu best because I see a reflection of myself and my husband in that relationship. We've been together for seven years and married for three, by the way :D So I dunno, I think I would support "natural" relationships over superficial ones (I'm not saying that your situation is superficial--I don't know anything about your situation, so I can't say anything about it--but I feel that Hatchi's relationship with Takumi is superficial). |
ScrumYummy said: mommyslttlmnstr said: Bi said: girliegirl625 said: Ren is takumi child. while this whole accident happen hachi will give birth to Sa-chan and sleep with takumi and have Ren before they actually break up. Yes, little Ren is Takumi and Hachi's child, and Satcuki's brother. I rather think twin brother. Hachi didn't wanted to know the sex of the baby, so the doctor didn't tell her that she will have twins. I've been thinking the same thing. Twins, they seem to be of the same age. Because she would have to get pregnant almost immediately after her birth to have the second child so near in age. I just don't see that happening at all. Not with the way their relationship is heading. You guys are forgetting that Takumi slept with Reira while Hachi was still pregnant. Ren could very well be Reira's son, which would explain why he was in England with Takumi and Reira. *edit* and it would also explain why he looks like Shin a little bit :> but that's getting into some weird theories. I suppose you could be right but I really don't think thats the case. In chapter 74 when Naoki suggests letting Ren stay in London, Takumi replies that Nana is going to want to take him back during summer break. Naoki then comments back on Ren's hardships because of is parents. Then some pages ahead Ren refers to Reira as Reira and Takumi as daddy within the same breath. Why would he speak of his father with that kind of endearment but not his mother, if thats the case? Even the way Reira speaks of Ren later in the same chapter. It doesn't seem as though she's speaking of her own child. It isn't just that but other chapters as well that mention Ren. They're still vague enough that what you say could be possible. I just think it's unlikely is all. I guess we'll have to wait and see though. ^_^ |
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kalindiana said: Wait a sec... I think the 'Ren' they're talking about is Takumi's kid....? Not Nana's Ren. |
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NoyaChan said: kalindiana said: Wait a sec... I think the 'Ren' they're talking about is Takumi's kid....? Not Nana's Ren. oh, yeah... |
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goomy said: Tomoe said: I thought like that too, but I don't wanna be convinced=( What I understand about that comparison to Santa is like they're speaking of 2 things that don't exist, but Hachi could still believe in. Kinda like saying 'Ren mailed this to me' would be the same as 'Santa mailed these to me'. Or maybe even 'Daimaou mailed these to me'. Am I making any sense here? yeah, i think you're right. |
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| i just want to cry.. REN << i never liked him that much.. but poor nana.. no one will know that that black cat that he saw nana in is the cause for his death.. i wonder what was that sound that nobou heard is like ><!! i guess the manga is almost ending.. |
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| the second half of this chapter was so much more depressing than the first, goodness. I guess it just goes downhill from here! |
| Seems like Reira lost whatever little sense she had in her head after Ren's death. I also suspected little Ren as Reira's and Takumi's, and I still have that suspicion. Why would little Ren love spending more time in London, playing guitar for Reira than being with his sister and mother? Here's my theory: Reira went nuts after Ren's death, was pregnant [thanks Takumi or possibly Shin...], gave birth but she is nuts. Including little Ren, who knows this is his mother, just look at the way he gazes at her http://www.onemanga.com/Nana/70/21/ Because of this, little Ren was raised with Sa-chan, as Hachi's own. Takumi is a selfish bastard. He could have let Hachi be happy with Nobu knowing full well that in the end, he would chose Reira above everyone else. That's why he is in London with her instead of with Hachi. If they do divorce, I hope Nobu and Hachi happens. Poor Nana though :ccc |
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| Wow this was really sad and heart breaking =( We all knew this was going to happen but now that he's really dead it's .. something else. Ren was one of my fav characters .. Reira is a bitch. She should just die already. And those fuc*in' reporters too. |
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Kaoru23 said: Wow this was really sad and heart breaking =( We all knew this was going to happen but now that he's really dead it's .. something else. Ren was one of my fav characters .. Reira is a bitch. She should just die already. And those fuc*in' reporters too. Apparently there's a second part to this chapter, it's on onemanga now http://www.onemanga.com/Nana/78.5/01/ *sigh* Nana is one of those manga which are so addicting but depressing at the same time: ( And I agree with masamiakane, go HachiXNobu |
lindork said: Why?!!!!? I didn't think Ren would actually be killed off, but I thought wrong. T ^ T He was killed by fame and fate haunting him, slippery snow on the way to his mothertown and Nana-black cat narcotic delusion. TwilightShiva said: There’s no way this will end happily now… The only possible happy-end we have left is Nana reuniting Hachi and co. They will meet of course, but their future relationship is still vague. |
Vitka_LynxJan 28, 2009 4:11 AM
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| I really don't know what to say. I knew Ren would die eventually, but now it happened, it's so hard to believe. It's like he will come back later, even they saw his corpse but I still can't believe. Actually I couldn't read for a while, just closed the page and cried. Ren shouldn't have died, it's so... Argh! I think I hate Ai Yazawa now. Why did she do that? Really, it's really hard to read from now on. It makes me feel depressed. -_-" I don't think manga will end happily now unless Ren returns which is impossible. |
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| FUCK. I had a bad feeling from the start when it came to Ren, since he basically looks like a prettier version of Sid Vicious. And then when it turns out Ren was the name of Takumi's kid, oh it was too obvious then. I was hoping that I was wrong. FUCK FUCK FUCK. |
RolexFeb 7, 2009 7:29 PM
| I cried so much. Ren was brought up in some of the future chapters, so I didn't see it coming... I thought he would just be in a coma or something, not dead. I can't believe it. Just... wow. I never thought a manga would make me feel this way. I cried pretty much throughout but it really got me when Yasu started crying. |
| fuck everything bro!! man it cant possibly be a happy ending now and if reir wasnt crazy before than she's fucking insane now |
| NOOO REN!!!! :'( DAMN!!!! |
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| Damn I had a feeling he was going to die, but it was sad to see him go like that. |
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giddytron said: Oh God, Nobu's guitar-hearing. I can't quite believe it. Cliche isn't it? |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| ;____; Started crying because of Hachi. The guilt of knowing that she could have stopped the death of her best friend's lover- her feeling responsible for that. It's a huge weight to bear. Then started crying harder when I saw Shin crying in that position right before Hachi ran to embrace him. Teared up more seeing Nobu and Takumi seeing his body and that his body was destroyed because of the impact. Then upon seeing them meet up with Nana, Yasu crying and then Nana saying that time stopped for her right before she turned 21. Her lover died the night before her birthday. Her life has really sucked. ;___; Now I'm wondering how their last conversation was again. I love this series, it's so real. |
     "There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
| Oh God |
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| One of the best chapters in Nana. Nuff said :( |
| People die if they are killed |
| Nana will break into a million pieces when Yasu tells her ): That's it if he tells her, it will be worst if she finds out on the radio or tv without someone to comfort her It's just disgusting the fact that those two motherfuckers piece of shits left Ren like that after they saw what happening |
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| Ok, I'm officially dead. |
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| i literally just spent the entire chapter crying |
| The build up to Yasu telling Nana.O was so great I can get past the "Nobuo heard a song~" thing that could have ruined the previous moment when Takumi received the call. The reactions from Hachi to Reira, were all heartbreaking, but with Yasu's, it was hard not to tear up, that kid he tried to protect it's gone :/ |
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