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Sep 12, 2024 9:55 AM
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Have you ever applied your own imagination to supplement or change the events that happen in anime to make it more enjoyable for yourself? Examples of this can be something small like could be adjusting a character's reaction to be better in line with their perceived character. Or inventing a more appropriate backstory for a character that still aligns with the rest of the story because the one provided by the author wasn't satisfiable. Or a bigger example, completely rewriting the premise in your head to suit the narrative or just make the setting more interesting.

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Have you ever applied your imagination in such a way to anime? If so, how often and to what degree are you willing to go off the author's original story? Would you consider it as a divergent story/timeline or do you make it a mental version of the de facto story? Give some examples if any come to mind.
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Depends on the show, but I tend to change things quite often in my mind.
Sep 12, 2024 10:07 AM
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Doing that regularly when I'm yuri-shipping.
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Sep 12, 2024 10:08 AM
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No, I never do that, it would feel like work.

I prefer to enjoy as the original author intended, and not otherwise.

Imagination feels better only for personal creative projects/hobbies.
Sep 12, 2024 10:15 AM
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I analyze what I see most of the time
But imagining Lain as a digimon tamers prequel or thinking that gundam seed happens either before or after UC using what we know with turn A makes the stories better
Sep 12, 2024 10:17 AM
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I often think about things that could have been done differently, such as removing the science fiction element from Legend of the Galactic Heroes. But since it's all in my head, it doesn't fix the show.
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Sep 12, 2024 10:58 AM
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I don't do that, not because I don't want but because I can't, aphantasia is quite annoying x)
Sep 12, 2024 11:18 AM
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I do it regularly when I yuri-ship my waifus. Not for much else though.
Sep 12, 2024 11:30 AM
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Most of the time. I want to align what I watch or read to my tastes after all.

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Sep 12, 2024 11:51 AM

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I often think about things that could have been done differently, such as removing the science fiction element from Legend of the Galactic Heroes. But since it's all in my head, it doesn't fix the show.
@Lucifrost

One issue I find with doing this in my head is that if the change is too significant requiring adjusting many other story elements, then even if I'm able to make sense of things or make certain points more interesting, it makes the whole thing more generic by removing a lot of the depth and characterization. So I would only consider it a fix, if the detail is minor enough not to trample on other things that made it good in the first place.

Of course, when it comes to discussing it with others, then such fixes can only be considered in the realm of fanfiction unless they are explicitly drawn from scenes or parts that were meant to have multiple interpretations.
Sep 12, 2024 11:53 AM

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I often try to go with the crowd and try to at least IMAGINE a scenario where attractive sibling pairs in anime don't fuck offscreen but it's pretty much impossible
Sep 12, 2024 12:20 PM

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I never even thought that i can do that
Sep 12, 2024 12:28 PM

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Hmm, I would say “rarely.” Changing the author's intended canon work in my head for the purposes of entertaining myself is something that I rarely ever do from what I can remember.

If I do happen to imagine different scenarios for characters, stories, and other things, it would likely be because I was asked how I would change the anime to make it better, or if I were to write a review and I wanted to think of some hypothetical scenarios.
Sep 12, 2024 12:38 PM

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No, I never do that, it would feel like work.

I prefer to enjoy as the original author intended, and not otherwise.

Imagination feels better only for personal creative projects/hobbies.
@Icymatika

It's probably different for everyone. But for me, this usually happens naturally while watching the anime. Especially for long-running series with at least 2 seasons where I get to develop enough of an understanding of characters. So that when the author gives a character questionable motives (usually over-complicated and somewhat retroactive) for doing something unexpected, I make up a simpler reason that would make more sense to avoid suspending my belief.
Sep 12, 2024 12:48 PM

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When I do that, I don't really stray away from the original story, but I will consider it the same timeline. I also don't do it often, but when I do it's usually make a scenario for something with an open ending, or a time period that is skipped/now shown.

There's also something like Orange that I intrepret the not-so-clear ending with a scenario that I see fit, and then they released a continuation/additional volume(s), but I never touch them.
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Most commonly I down-play or change scenes that I don't like.
I also like to imagine additional scenes, dialogue or smaller details that I find cool, but I try to not mix these with what's actually happening in the story. I do this kind of automatically as part of engaging with the story, but I honestly should try to do it more. It's fun.

For example I tell myself that all those instances in Elfen Lied where Lucy flashes her boobs to everyone or when the childhood friend finds her and Kouta in some weird incriminating position don't actually exist in the story and are just out-of-character jokes by the creators.

I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist, like:
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Quadruple_Oi said:
Have you ever applied your imagination in such a way to anime? If so, how often and to what degree are you willing to go off the author's original story? Would you consider it as a divergent story/timeline or do you make it a mental version of the de facto story? Give some examples if any come to mind.

I guess for minor details, i'll always imagine more detaild backstories or give a psychological analisys of why a character is behaving the way they are, but i'll stay true to the OG story
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Shingeki fans coping with the story's conclusion basically.
Sep 12, 2024 3:12 PM

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When I see a reverse harem I imagine that the girl is a futanari who really needs to put her key in some lock.

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Reply to Vaturna
Most commonly I down-play or change scenes that I don't like.
I also like to imagine additional scenes, dialogue or smaller details that I find cool, but I try to not mix these with what's actually happening in the story. I do this kind of automatically as part of engaging with the story, but I honestly should try to do it more. It's fun.

For example I tell myself that all those instances in Elfen Lied where Lucy flashes her boobs to everyone or when the childhood friend finds her and Kouta in some weird incriminating position don't actually exist in the story and are just out-of-character jokes by the creators.

I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist, like:
Vaturna said:
I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist

I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist.
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I think it can be fun to engage with a piece of work you enjoy with some creativity and making your own spin on it in some ways. That's prolly why a lot of people enjoy things like creating fanfics and fanart
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I mainly just do that with manga since you have to imagine things you see moving some and hear their voices. For anime I just speculate most cases.
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Most commonly I down-play or change scenes that I don't like.
I also like to imagine additional scenes, dialogue or smaller details that I find cool, but I try to not mix these with what's actually happening in the story. I do this kind of automatically as part of engaging with the story, but I honestly should try to do it more. It's fun.

For example I tell myself that all those instances in Elfen Lied where Lucy flashes her boobs to everyone or when the childhood friend finds her and Kouta in some weird incriminating position don't actually exist in the story and are just out-of-character jokes by the creators.

I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist, like:
@Vaturna

Didn't consider this, but it imagining a sequel doesn't exist is also pretty valid and I'm sure many people do this. For me it would be sequels like Dragon Ball Super, Boruto (at least how the anime did it), and The Promised Neverland which are pretty basic ones since most people would probably agree. There's also The Rising of the Shield Hero, but at least it gave interesting things to work with that I can engage with those concepts to create my own story to fill in the gaps.
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I Imagine different outcomes for key events. For example, if a mystery in “Detective Conan” wraps up too neatly, I think about how the story could have ended with a twist or an unresolved clue helping the culprit ton get away.
I Expand on the characters’ backgrounds like I imagine a detailed past for a side character like Gentleman thief in “Kindaichi Case Files” which would explain their motivations and actions because it was never revealed in the anime.


My favorite thing to do is Insert myself into my favorite anime arcs and Stories

I Imagine myself as a character in the Gintama anime. How would I interact with the 3 main characters? What role would I would play in getting myself involved in Gin-san's ridiculous jobs?
I imagine to Transport the story to a different time or place. What if “Spy_x_family” was set in a futuristic city like in ghost in the Shell? I imagine How would the characters adapt to new technologies and societal changes?
And Explore ‘What-If’ Scenarios..

I Think about how the story in kochikame anime would change if a single event had a different outcome. For instance, what if Ryoutsu kankichi quits while he is ahead in one of his crazy business ventures and actually gets rich or a case even Conan or kindaichi can't solve..


I Combine elements from different genres. I Imagine a crossover where characters from natsume youjinchou meet those from Mob Psycho, in supernatural anime. How would they handle a case involving youkai or otherworldly psychic phenomena?
I Dive deeper into the relationships between characters from two different anime.. I Create subplots that explore friendships and romantic interests that aren’t fully developed in the original series.

Given my fondness for 90s visual displays, I imagine how modern anime like jujutsu_kaisen would look with a 4:3 aspect ratio and the nostalgic art style of that era. This can give fresh yet familiar feel to the story.

I thank you for making such a great thread so I can Share my ideas with fellow anime fans. I post on some other Online forums and fan fiction communities to exchange thoughts and get feedback on my imaginative takes.

Like I posted on Deg's thread the other day, that I Enjoy the loose ends in storytelling in anime because I can use them as a springboard for my own deductions and theories...
Okay nobody is going to read it, lol.. But at least I have shared my side.
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Reply to Vaturna
Most commonly I down-play or change scenes that I don't like.
I also like to imagine additional scenes, dialogue or smaller details that I find cool, but I try to not mix these with what's actually happening in the story. I do this kind of automatically as part of engaging with the story, but I honestly should try to do it more. It's fun.

For example I tell myself that all those instances in Elfen Lied where Lucy flashes her boobs to everyone or when the childhood friend finds her and Kouta in some weird incriminating position don't actually exist in the story and are just out-of-character jokes by the creators.

I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist, like:
Vaturna said:
I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist, like:
Violet Evergarden: The Movie

I just didn't continue after the series, any additions would just ruin it
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Reply to Vaturna
Most commonly I down-play or change scenes that I don't like.
I also like to imagine additional scenes, dialogue or smaller details that I find cool, but I try to not mix these with what's actually happening in the story. I do this kind of automatically as part of engaging with the story, but I honestly should try to do it more. It's fun.

For example I tell myself that all those instances in Elfen Lied where Lucy flashes her boobs to everyone or when the childhood friend finds her and Kouta in some weird incriminating position don't actually exist in the story and are just out-of-character jokes by the creators.

I also like to pretend that certain sequels don't exist, like:
@Vaturna Dude, just what did the Violet Evergarden movie do to you?
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Sep 13, 2024 4:54 AM
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Here's how it works:
- if an anime fills you with wonder and incites imagination about something that's unknown or fascinating, that's good - an anime has succeeded in capturing your full attention without feeling like the plot has holes or is poorly explored
- if an anime is so poorly explained that you have to use your imagination or employ guesswork to try make sense of the plot, then it's bad writing and you shouldn't rate an anime high just because "with my imagination I made sense of the convoluted plot that's also full of holes"
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@Vaturna Dude, just what did the Violet Evergarden movie do to you?
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I never really wanted to go on a war against the movie or anything. I usually don't talk much about it unless someone asks. ^^
This isn't meant as a critique of the movie, just as an explaination why I wanted to detach myself from it:
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I never really wanted to go on a war against the movie or anything. I usually don't talk much about it unless someone asks. ^^
This isn't meant as a critique of the movie, just as an explaination why I wanted to detach myself from it:
Vaturna said:
It changes the context of the original series and since I treasure it so much I don't want it to change.

Exactly my feelings about Violet Evergarden The Movie, put more eloquently and thoughtfully than I ever could.

I don't hate the movie or anything, but I also often tell myself that the final shot of Violet Evergarden the series is the end of the story. It's just a perfect ending to the character's journey, and now we can look beyond and move on.
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Quadruple_Oi said:
Wind Breaker Premise

Wind Breaker might be the only time when I actively filled in the blanks and felt good about it. I did something similar to what you did, except that I imagined the world as a post-apocalyptic or a wartime one. Something like Heavenly Delusion. That would explain the lack of police, teachers, and adults in general, and how the women and the elderly townspeople have to rely on teenagers to run errands and keep the peace. If I didn't do that, the premise wouldn't have made any sense to me at all.
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Quadruple_Oi said:
Wind Breaker Premise

Wind Breaker might be the only time when I actively filled in the blanks and felt good about it. I did something similar to what you did, except that I imagined the world as a post-apocalyptic or a wartime one. Something like Heavenly Delusion. That would explain the lack of police, teachers, and adults in general, and how the women and the elderly townspeople have to rely on teenagers to run errands and keep the peace. If I didn't do that, the premise wouldn't have made any sense to me at all.
@perseii

Yeah, Wind Breaker was one case where I had to just adjust the premise for my own sanity more than anything. Otherwise, that would just bog down my mind the whole time not allowing me to engage with what is actually happening. Thanks to that it turned from pretty bad to at least watchable. Especially the last 3/4 episodes which entirely took place at their school, but it was really just their HQ.
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If you consider shipping-related stuff as such, then definitely; e.g., I headcanon that the reason Araragi grew out his hair is that Hitagi asked that of him because she wanted to pull on his hair during sex.
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I Imagine different outcomes for key events. For example, if a mystery in “Detective Conan” wraps up too neatly, I think about how the story could have ended with a twist or an unresolved clue helping the culprit ton get away.
I Expand on the characters’ backgrounds like I imagine a detailed past for a side character like Gentleman thief in “Kindaichi Case Files” which would explain their motivations and actions because it was never revealed in the anime.


My favorite thing to do is Insert myself into my favorite anime arcs and Stories

I Imagine myself as a character in the Gintama anime. How would I interact with the 3 main characters? What role would I would play in getting myself involved in Gin-san's ridiculous jobs?
I imagine to Transport the story to a different time or place. What if “Spy_x_family” was set in a futuristic city like in ghost in the Shell? I imagine How would the characters adapt to new technologies and societal changes?
And Explore ‘What-If’ Scenarios..

I Think about how the story in kochikame anime would change if a single event had a different outcome. For instance, what if Ryoutsu kankichi quits while he is ahead in one of his crazy business ventures and actually gets rich or a case even Conan or kindaichi can't solve..


I Combine elements from different genres. I Imagine a crossover where characters from natsume youjinchou meet those from Mob Psycho, in supernatural anime. How would they handle a case involving youkai or otherworldly psychic phenomena?
I Dive deeper into the relationships between characters from two different anime.. I Create subplots that explore friendships and romantic interests that aren’t fully developed in the original series.

Given my fondness for 90s visual displays, I imagine how modern anime like jujutsu_kaisen would look with a 4:3 aspect ratio and the nostalgic art style of that era. This can give fresh yet familiar feel to the story.

I thank you for making such a great thread so I can Share my ideas with fellow anime fans. I post on some other Online forums and fan fiction communities to exchange thoughts and get feedback on my imaginative takes.

Like I posted on Deg's thread the other day, that I Enjoy the loose ends in storytelling in anime because I can use them as a springboard for my own deductions and theories...
Okay nobody is going to read it, lol.. But at least I have shared my side.
@RainyEvenings

RainyEvenings said:
I Expand on the characters’ backgrounds like I imagine a detailed past for a side character like Gentleman thief in “Kindaichi Case Files” which would explain their motivations and actions because it was never revealed in the anime.
Expanding on character backstories is my favorite, especially for the side characters that were only given enough background for them to make serviceable, but enough time couldn't be dedicated since it would feel like too much of a tangent in the original story

RainyEvenings said:
I Imagine myself as a character in the Gintama anime. How would I interact with the 3 main characters? What role would I would play in getting myself involved in Gin-san's ridiculous jobs?
Self insert isn't something I've really tried myself, at least on a conscious level. For example in Roshidere, when the girl is being an annoying tsundere, but says nice things in Russian, I realized it wasn't that enjoyable because I was subconciously self-inserting and thinking that I would either give her the cold shoulder or just be straight that I understand Russian. I do think this could be interesting in situations with a lot of decision making involved as you said, or with characters that are different from myself, but I still respect their thought process, so it would be interesting to compare/contrast.

RainyEvenings said:
I Dive deeper into the relationships between characters from two different anime.. I Create subplots that explore friendships and romantic interests that aren’t fully developed in the original series.
As a big fan of bromances, this is also something I do quite often (my Tokyo Revengers example is basically this). Although I usually treat them entirely as my own mental fanfics unless the series is over, otherwise I would have conflicting feelings about a character if a major plot point somehow contradicts my original feelings.

RainyEvenings said:
Given my fondness for 90s visual displays, I imagine how modern anime like jujutsu_kaisen would look with a 4:3 aspect ratio and the nostalgic art style of that era. This can give fresh yet familiar feel to the story.
As someone that's newer, I'm interested to know generally how this change in aspect ratio effects the viewing experience. Recently I've been watching Shoushimin (How to be Ordinary), which has used a 21:9 aspect ratio and the vibe is clearly different. I guess it's more focused, but I haven't really put my finger on what makes it interesting. Would the 4:3 mostly give it a nostalgic feel or is there more to it?
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in my mind everyone has sex offscreen, well not everyone but you get it. Most recent example is in dungeon meshi when the shota slept in the same bed with the elf and the catgirl, I am 100% sure they banged.
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I don't think I do that with anime because the visuals and audio are already provided.

But I always use my imagination when reading manga, you know, to make the static panels more dynamic and engaging in my mind.
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RainyEvenings said:
I Expand on the characters’ backgrounds like I imagine a detailed past for a side character like Gentleman thief in “Kindaichi Case Files” which would explain their motivations and actions because it was never revealed in the anime.
Expanding on character backstories is my favorite, especially for the side characters that were only given enough background for them to make serviceable, but enough time couldn't be dedicated since it would feel like too much of a tangent in the original story

RainyEvenings said:
I Imagine myself as a character in the Gintama anime. How would I interact with the 3 main characters? What role would I would play in getting myself involved in Gin-san's ridiculous jobs?
Self insert isn't something I've really tried myself, at least on a conscious level. For example in Roshidere, when the girl is being an annoying tsundere, but says nice things in Russian, I realized it wasn't that enjoyable because I was subconciously self-inserting and thinking that I would either give her the cold shoulder or just be straight that I understand Russian. I do think this could be interesting in situations with a lot of decision making involved as you said, or with characters that are different from myself, but I still respect their thought process, so it would be interesting to compare/contrast.

RainyEvenings said:
I Dive deeper into the relationships between characters from two different anime.. I Create subplots that explore friendships and romantic interests that aren’t fully developed in the original series.
As a big fan of bromances, this is also something I do quite often (my Tokyo Revengers example is basically this). Although I usually treat them entirely as my own mental fanfics unless the series is over, otherwise I would have conflicting feelings about a character if a major plot point somehow contradicts my original feelings.

RainyEvenings said:
Given my fondness for 90s visual displays, I imagine how modern anime like jujutsu_kaisen would look with a 4:3 aspect ratio and the nostalgic art style of that era. This can give fresh yet familiar feel to the story.
As someone that's newer, I'm interested to know generally how this change in aspect ratio effects the viewing experience. Recently I've been watching Shoushimin (How to be Ordinary), which has used a 21:9 aspect ratio and the vibe is clearly different. I guess it's more focused, but I haven't really put my finger on what makes it interesting. Would the 4:3 mostly give it a nostalgic feel or is there more to it?
@Quadruple_Oi I find it fascinating how long-running series like Detective Conan and remakes like kindaichi, urusei yatsura, ranma etc reflect the passage of time and technological advancements! The evolution of animation styles and backgrounds in those series are quite nostalgic.. ..


The 90s animation had a distinct charm with hand-drawn frames, with slightly grainy visuals. Over the years, the shift to digital animation has brought smoother lines and more dynamic color palettes...
I am talking about imagining the reverse.. Modern anime make in old 90s style that I just described.

Early episodes of 90s anime featured detailed, hand-painted backgrounds that captured the essence of 90s Japan. As the anime progressed , the backgrounds evolved to reflect modern architecture and urban landscapes, mirroring real-life changes... The sceneries are quite different, both urban and rural landscapes..
The anime series has done an excellent job of incorporating contemporary technology. From pagers and bulky CRT monitors in the early 90s anime to smartphones, tablets, and sleek laptops in recent ones show the technological advancements over the decades.
also subtly captures cultural shifts, such as changes in fashion and style of cloths and school uniforms, communication styles, and everyday life, is like opening a time capsule



I appreciate these evolving elements with a keen eye for detail and imagine that
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