People need to learn differentiate fiction and reality

Zanfroni said:


Regarding sexual content and pedophilia and this frequent? I'll admit I wasn't around when Season 1 was airing so I'm just asking out of curiosity.

AxeDatcm said:
People keep saying this pedophile, those disgusting, child abuse, too NSFW
Dude it's a fiction work set in fictional universe filled with fictional characters, and this show is for adults
You feel disgusted?, Distressed?, Terrified?, Congratulations ME TOO, that's mean this show perfectly do its job, you supposed to feel that way to certain scene in this show, if you feel aroused seeing a kid pooping in weird toiled, you feel joyous seeing dismembering scene, dude something is wrong with your head
And for people saying it's pedophile, i think YOU are the pedophile, why? Because the first time you see a kid the first time you think is sensual thing, like when Riko pooping on those weird toilet, or faputa do sniff sniff to reg, NORMAL people the first thing in their mind most likely is disgusted, and for you to jump to sensual thing they mean you are the one make it pedophile for yourself, you are the one with pedophilic mindset

"But why those scene, why it's like that"
they're not human, your human morals mean nothing for them, they are fictional character with their own moral standard in their own world, so stop putting real life problem to it and ranting online

"At least they can tone down it little bit"
why you watch this show in the first place

Raph03 said:
You're spitting facts my dude. Unfortunately there's a lot of person with their brain damaged that can't differentiate reality and anime. Shows like MiA and Monogatari got hated for this very dumb reason

xZabuzax said:

While you have a point in your previous examples, I will have to comment on this one. Removing or toning some stuff down that is not helping the plot in any way, shape, or form is better than having those scenes included, this season has a couple of unnecessary things that is degrading the plot IMHO and some people may even find it disturbing (not in a good way though) and if they remove it or tone it down then it's a win-win situation for both sides.

Here's an example, I used to love Demon Slayer (season 1), I considered that season a 9/10 when I was watching it but the moment Zenitsu appeared Demon Slayer (season 1) turned to shit, I fucking hate Zenitsu and that mother fucker ruined season 1 for me, his shitty comedy, screams and BS didn't help the plot in any way, shape, or form. That mother fucker is the epitome of shit characters that I hate the most in animes, he almost made me drop Demon Slayer and because of that fucker, I ended up giving Demon Slayer (season 1) a 6/10 instead and I won't go lower than that only because of the awesome animation which is the saving grace of that franchise.

Hell, a lot of people dropped Demon Slayer because of that mother fucker too so as you can see, removing that ear-raping comedy from the series or even toning it down would have been better than having it included, I doubt people are going to "drop" Demon Slayer by having Zenitsu scream "less" but people are DEFINITELY going to drop Demon Slayer by having Zenitsu scream "more".

So why did I keep watching Demon Slayer (season 1) instead of dropping it? because it has other nice things as well that kept me interested but the fact remains that the things I mentioned ruined it for me despite the nice things that anime offered. Sometimes, "less" is better so removing or toning shit down that is not helping the plot will actually improve the plot and on top of that, it will have people like "us", bitching less about it too so it's a win-win situation for both sides.

hypergoob said:
My main contentions with it are: 1. It's unnecessary, 2. He's a pedo, 3. Nihilism is cringe, 4. Weebs are cringe, 5. Become a monk, and travel to the Himalayas, wherein you will forgo all worldly pleasures. Anime will become superfluous, as you touch upon the true meaning to life, and after 10 years, you'll re-emerge from those distant mountains a changed, and truly spiritual man.

misterinfoman said:
I like gore and horrifying creepy stuff, at least leave one show for me bro.

hypergoob said:


It's unnecessary, but I'm not Stalin. What I mean is: there's more healthy ways for both the viewers, and the author. Don't watch pedo stuff, don't write pedo stuff, and your life will be better. You need to ask yourself, why do I pursue the uncomfortable? Is it a lack of something? Going into nature, and searching for the answer will lead to some interesting introspection, and you may just see the world in a more ordered way. Because this all stems from shades of nihilism.

Though, this is an anime forum, so I have become the cringe.

misterinfoman said:
I don’t like it for the pedo stuff, and don’t worry about the author cause he’s seeing a therapist

hypergoob said:


Okay, that's good. Hopefully, he gets the help he needs.

Artur_Moreira said:
"People need to learn differentiate fiction and reality"

Dumb people like whoever wrote this need to learn 2 things: 1. we know that, 2. whatever art it is, art is a reflection of individual and the society he lives in, understanding that something is "fictional" doesn't null it., you can't create art from a vacuum, So, it is important to reflect on all artistic means and investigate the origin of possible problems existing in them.

misterinfoman said:

True bro, just so you know though the author is an open pedo and is seeing a therapist bout it. Btw is your main language English cause I have never seen so many grammar mistakes in my life.

Okeanix said:
Ask yourself this question, if this would be okay when characters replaced with real actors (live action)

If it's not okay with live action then how it is okay with drawings?

I'm the minority who finds Made in Abyss extremely overrated because flat characters, worldbuilding (yes you heard me) not because author's pedo fetishes.

Ran1k said:


I started watching made in abyss with the thought that I’m going to see a cool mystery adventure show where you go in the big hole in the ground, but instead, I got the feeling that made in abyss doesn’t take itself very seriously.

Okeanix said:
Ask yourself this question, if this would be okay when characters replaced with real actors (live action)

If it's not okay with live action then how it is okay with drawings?

I'm the minority who finds Made in Abyss extremely overrated because flat characters, worldbuilding (yes you heard me) not because author's pedo fetishes.

KuroNekoAlchemy said:


It takes itself 50% seriously. The author has a serious plot to tell, but at the same time, like to insert cynical dark humour into narrative, and play with fanservice.

In this regard, mia is no different than most action-adventure shounens. Except it's a seinen.

AxeDatcm said:

regarding the author i didn't knew about that before this thread
I'm a type of person who doesn't really care about author personal life, that's why I don't even knew the author name of most of the show I watched
about this author being pedo and stuff it's brought to my attention after comment on this thread

and yeah English is my 2nd (or technically 3rd if unofficial language doesn't count) language
I'm sorry but hopefully you still get what I'm tryna say

AxeDatcm said:
People keep saying this pedophile, those disgusting, child abuse, too NSFW
Dude it's a fiction work set in fictional universe filled with fictional characters, and this show is for adults
You feel disgusted?, Distressed?, Terrified?, Congratulations ME TOO, that's mean this show perfectly do its job, you supposed to feel that way to certain scene in this show, if you feel aroused seeing a kid pooping in weird toiled, you feel joyous seeing dismembering scene, dude something is wrong with your head
And for people saying it's pedophile, i think YOU are the pedophile, why? Because the first time you see a kid the first time you think is sensual thing, like when Riko pooping on those weird toilet, or faputa do sniff sniff to reg, NORMAL people the first thing in their mind most likely is disgusted, and for you to jump to sensual thing they mean you are the one make it pedophile for yourself, you are the one with pedophilic mindset

"But why those scene, why it's like that"
they're not human, your human morals mean nothing for them, they are fictional character with their own moral standard in their own world, so stop putting real life problem to it and ranting online

"At least they can tone down it little bit"
why you watch this show in the first place

removed-user said:
hmm. Idk. I got it recommended to me before but that shit was weird af. So much sexual stuff with kids and I still remember them talking about regs boner ew. Or him pissing in a tube (also ew a😭) the author is fucking weird and it’s highkey dogshit.

Seriously, its DISGUSTING. I HATE pedophiles, or even people who try to play dumb and hide behind anime's lewdness. 🫢

AxeDatcm said:
People keep saying this pedophile, those disgusting, child abuse, too NSFW
Dude it's a fiction work set in fictional universe filled with fictional characters, and this show is for adults
You feel disgusted?, Distressed?, Terrified?, Congratulations ME TOO, that's mean this show perfectly do its job, you supposed to feel that way to certain scene in this show, if you feel aroused seeing a kid pooping in weird toiled, you feel joyous seeing dismembering scene, dude something is wrong with your head
And for people saying it's pedophile, i think YOU are the pedophile, why? Because the first time you see a kid the first time you think is sensual thing, like when Riko pooping on those weird toilet, or faputa do sniff sniff to reg, NORMAL people the first thing in their mind most likely is disgusted, and for you to jump to sensual thing they mean you are the one make it pedophile for yourself, you are the one with pedophilic mindset

"But why those scene, why it's like that"
they're not human, your human morals mean nothing for them, they are fictional character with their own moral standard in their own world, so stop putting real life problem to it and ranting online

"At least they can tone down it little bit"
why you watch this show in the first place

AxeDatcm said:
People keep saying this pedophile, those disgusting, child abuse, too NSFW
Dude it's a fiction work set in fictional universe filled with fictional characters, and this show is for adults
You feel disgusted?, Distressed?, Terrified?, Congratulations ME TOO, that's mean this show perfectly do its job, you supposed to feel that way to certain scene in this show, if you feel aroused seeing a kid pooping in weird toiled, you feel joyous seeing dismembering scene, dude something is wrong with your head
And for people saying it's pedophile, i think YOU are the pedophile, why? Because the first time you see a kid the first time you think is sensual thing, like when Riko pooping on those weird toilet, or faputa do sniff sniff to reg, NORMAL people the first thing in their mind most likely is disgusted, and for you to jump to sensual thing they mean you are the one make it pedophile for yourself, you are the one with pedophilic mindset

"But why those scene, why it's like that"
they're not human, your human morals mean nothing for them, they are fictional character with their own moral standard in their own world, so stop putting real life problem to it and ranting online

"At least they can tone down it little bit"
why you watch this show in the first place

timeforward said:


It's a funny point when you consider that these fictional works you are talking about, depicting minors sexually, were determined to be an extension of child abuse and are illegal in the majority of countries worldwide. We could argue about it all day, it's just a funny thought that while we do that, law makers world wide already gone through the thought process and determined it to be abusive. And aren't any sexual depictions illegal in your country last I checked?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Legality_of_child_pornography_by_country.png

I don't have a strict position on it myself, I'd just prefer if authors wouldn't self insert pointless stuff into the story just to satisfy their fetishes, more often than not it is abrasive and hurts the flow of a good story.

MasterHavik said:
Just because it's fiction or not real doesn't excuse it from criticism. I think the main girl in Call of the night is a fucking groomer. Does that make that anime bad? no, but it's fair criticism. If people have issues with the themes of the show, they are allowed to voice them. I mean in a Discord I'm in that is very anti-censorship and everyone there is a big anime fan. I posted a trailer for the game coming for this anime. Someone didn't like how the game promoted you can die in different ways as I found to be weird and creepy. Instead of acting like you, I just said, "Yeah this is a series that is dark. Sorry if it rubs you the wrong way." Us as anime fans need to stop being so defensive and actually be willing to talk about the themes and content of our shows without getting all defensive. We sound like annoying Sonic fans demanding a game to be a certain way.

I want to stress I'm big fan of this anime and even I can acknowledge that it isn't for everyone and feel people have very good reasons why they don't like the series. Stop failing your arms around or screaming at people, "it's NoT ReAl!" Talk to people my man. It's not hard to do. Now let's go watch the new episode.

AxeDatcm said:

Yes some people already pointing that in this thread and if you read the thread you'll also find i stand corrected on several point after reading people discussion in this thread

And your point about every work is Worthy of critique is one of them

Momo_Mikoto said:
lol he got removed. Absolute L to him

Flugzeug said:
I still don’t get how tf this show is more controversial than Redo of Healer. 💀

Kuhler_Maen said:

You know Redo was just some stupid porn show not one of the best mystery adventures of recent times, in other words nobody gave a shit about redo, about Made in Abyss people do.

To OP yeah no, saying people who are annoyed the pedo bs of the author are the actual pedophiles isn't an argument especially considering the public info available on the author.
I personally stand against censorship of art in every case, so I do not ask for any changes to be made, but it is in my opinion still valuable and right to critizise the author for watering down his own work in to pander to some unfortunately even existing and disgusting fetishes. Be it the other characters obsession with Reg's dick, the rimjob toilets and pooping sceenes, dildo arms of Maaa squeezing out Meinyaas abdomen through its ass, riko getting hooked on that "food" in s2ep4 etc. And saying it's about world building or characterisation only gets you so far and considering the frequency of some of these things occuring makes it almost redundant.

Am I saying the show is ruined by these things? No, but it certainly is annoying and takes you out of the experience a bit. In short the show wouldn't be any worse if these scenes didn't exist or at the very least didn't occur as often (It's not completely horrible as is but ep4 was just too much). And no I am not saying MiA is "problematic and causes pedophilia", but just because its fiction doesn't mean one cannot critizise it otherwise you couldn't praise it for the things it does so well. Fiction/Art isn't meaningless.

And all of this BS hurts MiA as an art piece and this is by far the worst thing about it.

Noaina said:
For me, it's people finding an issue with others disliking certain content. Having nothing to do with fiction vs. reality but simply not liking themes within said fiction. I think it's fair and informative to discuss perspectives. The name calling and personal assumption of others is where the criticism gets off topic.

However, the contradiction between "it's just fiction" and "of course it's meant to disgust, it happens in real life!" is kind of stupid too though.