Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 24 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 24 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 76 | 69.72% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 20 | 18.35% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 11 | 10.09% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 0.00% | ||
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 2 | 1.83% |
Voters: 109
#21
03-25-12, 6:31 AM
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pokymon said: RoCSC-006C1BST said: Usually I don't mind if they change things, after all I think FMA and the beginning of FMA: Brotherhood weren't bad. However I hated this episode. Everything feels so cheap, infantile, "in your face", like watching a film with orange and blue scenes. There is no subtleness, the past shown here from Killua and Kanaria even altered how their personalities are to be presented. I love HxH, but this episode to me was 1 out of 5. As a person who has read all the HxH content up-to-date, I can assure the others that you're utterly wrong. You never bothered to check what manga I read, did you? |
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03-25-12, 7:27 AM
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RoCSC-006C1BST said: pokymon said: RoCSC-006C1BST said: Usually I don't mind if they change things, after all I think FMA and the beginning of FMA: Brotherhood weren't bad. However I hated this episode. Everything feels so cheap, infantile, "in your face", like watching a film with orange and blue scenes. There is no subtleness, the past shown here from Killua and Kanaria even altered how their personalities are to be presented. I love HxH, but this episode to me was 1 out of 5. As a person who has read all the HxH content up-to-date, I can assure the others that you're utterly wrong. You never bothered to check what manga I read, did you? I've checked your list, but haven't bothered mentioning it, because it's obvious that you need to refresh your memory. |
#23
03-25-12, 7:51 AM
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Offline Joined: May 2007 Posts: 441 |
I find it immature that others have to bash by just looking at lists. Such a way of discussion is weak. Also the fact that you keep track of the manga doesn't tell you have to be right always. Speaking of this week episode... That Zoldyck family intro is annoying. When it will stop? That Zoldyck theme played is something, gave me chills this time. |
#24
03-25-12, 8:10 AM
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![]() Backstory was pretty nice, Canary so epic. Otherwise Killua was pretty cool. Best moment was Father son chat as well Killua just breaking free. It changed my impression of the family, only the mom seems crazy of sorts, and the way she ran and gets angry. <img src="http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx1a8gz3tu1qbxqfpo1_500.png" /> |
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03-25-12, 9:08 AM
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pokymon said: I've checked your list, but haven't bothered mentioning it, because it's obvious that you need to refresh your memory. Yeah, nice argumentation. Shadow-Chan said: I find it immature that others have to bash by just looking at lists. Such a way of discussion is weak. Also the fact that you keep track of the manga doesn't tell you have to be right always. I merely said what I thought about the episode. The creature who brought anything about being up to date to the manga was this one up there. So, shall we refresh our memories, shan't we? Now, the best way to prove anything it is of course with evidence. Physical evidence clearly isn't an option, so all I'll have it is arguments. Whether anyone will provide a reasonably logical rebuttal it is an entirely different matter. I'm an optimistic person so I hope this will be at least a somewhat decent discussion. In cinematography, design and so on, one of the first things one would learn is that orange and blue sceneries are easily something that pleases the eyes of the beholder. There are a myriad of techniques such as this one which are replicated frequently in all sorts of media. From the beginning of Hunter X Hunter many complained that the colours were somewhat happy and gay. Fair enough but at least at that time it could be ignored because it didn't affect much the mood of the characters and everything extra done so far didn't incur much in interfering with any of the characters' story development. The manga is black-and-white(and some tens of shades of gray) and as such some of what happened could be simply an alternative interpretation of the moods of the story. However this episode in particular the moods are blatantly obvious. The evil sable lair of the "malicious" Silva Zoldyck. The sudden darkened colours of Killua "cold" stare. Even whilst Zeno-sama is mentioned the music switch to a "macabre" soundtrack. If an analogy to comedy sketches were made, HxH would be one of the kind that you laugh whenever the prompt laugher is on. Throughout the manga the shades tend to only change under crucial circumstances. The overall effect of this exaggerated mood striking, colours changes and "sinister" music played cheapens the scenes where it would be actually fitting. Or in lay terms; it is trying too hard. I'm even surprised there was no "boo" fright moment or there were nobody trying to attack a person in a shower. There are many outstanding factors in HxH which contrast many anime, i.e. subtle character development. It doesn't need to tell everything about a character, incidentally the great emphasis given to how their personalities affect everything they do is quite intriguing and one of the most interesting aspects of HxH. Modified by RoCSC-006C1BST, 03-25-12, 9:12 AM |
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03-25-12, 9:32 AM
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RoCSC-006C1BST said: Shadow-Chan said: I find it immature that others have to bash by just looking at lists. Such a way of discussion is weak. Also the fact that you keep track of the manga doesn't tell you have to be right always. I merely said what I thought about the episode. The creature who brought anything about being up to date to the manga was this one up there. Did I quote what you said earlier? No. You can't say that my words were directed at you. |
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03-25-12, 11:43 AM
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RoCSC-006C1BST said: Now, the best way to prove anything it is of course with evidence. Physical evidence clearly isn't an option, so all I'll have it is arguments. Whether anyone will provide a reasonably logical rebuttal it is an entirely different matter. I'm an optimistic person so I hope this will be at least a somewhat decent discussion. Not that I mind you disliking this episode, but none of what you offer are arguments. It is merely your preference. Therefore none can offer "logical rebuttals". On topic, it was an okay episode, but I thought the tension died rather quickly. |
#28
03-25-12, 2:08 PM
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I never really remarked that before but the BGM is seriously awesome. Great episode anyway, very faithful to the original material. Well, anything Kirua-related is fantastic. |
#29
03-25-12, 2:14 PM
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Killua's dad... looked so metro and old school. In a good way of course. |
#30
03-25-12, 5:54 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1665 |
His mother's a biach xD And damn I was shaking during the whole father-son convo. I was expecting him to flip at some moment. He might be as evil as the rest, but Silva at least respects Killua's wishes. |
#31
03-25-12, 6:33 PM
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fishergirl16 said: Killua~Gon~Kurapika~Leorio! Finally together again<3 umm.. we'll see about that.. Good episode it was.. Canary's backstory was better in the 1999 version, but i guess they did add some stuff if i'm remembering correctly, didn't they ? Killua's father still as awesome as he was, mother and that fat guy still too damn annoying, lil sis still dark and silent, Grandpa.. nothing much from him here but i liked him 4/5 next episode: Mindfuck |
#32
03-26-12, 12:31 AM
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LightAndDark said: ![]() Backstory was pretty nice, Canary so epic. Otherwise Killua was pretty cool. Best moment was Father son chat as well Killua just breaking free. It changed my impression of the family, only the mom seems crazy of sorts, and the way she ran and gets angry. Killua's father is crazy as well. He probably made that promise because he knows that he (father) in the past probably killed his friends so his so will do the same and come back as an assassin like in Naruto xD. Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the General Forum Guidelines. |
#33
03-26-12, 6:57 AM
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Good episode! It's much better than the 1999 version. The sad thing is have to wait another week for watch HxH. My favorite JP songs channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/myfavtracksJP |
#34
03-26-12, 9:24 AM
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wow Killua father is crazy! Killua was also awesome this episode love the darkness of this episode was great! |
#35
03-26-12, 9:31 AM
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The author has done a great job with this family unit. Nobody's worst then the other, even a likeable main who's oppose to his sociopathic family isn't allowed to take any moral highground and doesn't attempt to - the understanding dad turns creepy and the grandad who comes across as wise an social wears a 'one kill a day' logo. I'm wondering if people have now forgotten how sinister Illumi seemed upon introduction? I like how Milluki has the better perception on personality types and personal potential then anyone else, even though he's the one who's content in a sheltered life - it shows that being a quite observer is as handy as getting out there. Loving Canary - it's nice to see a sweet, sensible, non-bipolar girl who can handle herself and others. |
#36
03-26-12, 5:13 PM
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Score. Silva has been the first character that I think hands down has a better voice actor than the original anime. I also like the portrayal of Kanaria and Killua's relationship here better than the original. |
#37
03-29-12, 11:02 AM
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The whole meeting with his father has disappointed me, especially because his eyes lucked that intensity that made you feel that you where speaking to a great figure. Generally the new series feels that it lacks some subtlety and it tries to be more simplistic in the aura it gives. Modified by Monad, 04-01-12, 7:11 AM |
#38
03-29-12, 11:30 AM
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Monad said: The whole meeting with hi father disappointing me especially because his eyes lucked that intensity that made you feel that you where speaking to a great figure. Generally the new series feels that it lucks some subtlety and it tries to be more simplistic in the aura it gives. Maybe because you've read/watched it before? I don't think it lacks subtlety at all. I mean it's following the manga well without adding some features to characters that cause inconsistencies like the original had with, mainly to Killua. It still didn't give away anything that will be used in the future while still keeping it there. It feels simple and light because of the artwork which is supposed to look a bit less dark in earlier arcs although it is getting darker as the series progresses. ![]() |
#39
03-31-12, 9:40 PM
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Young Killua looked so ugly in this version, >_> ![]() I will turn you into junk. |
#40
04-01-12, 5:13 AM
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The pacing seemed off this episode, like it had slowed way down... In the old version they spent a lot of time at the training which was covered in one episode this time. So going into canary's back story seemed like they were trying to lengthen out the scene; but I haven't read the manga and going from what people are saying, I will assume that the backstory was in the manga but omitted in the original production... another possible reason though is that I had a "Oh the managaka is on hiatus again" mentality when I watched this episode |
















