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11-05-10, 9:37 PM

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loviiingg this show even more now!`!!~
 
11-05-10, 9:46 PM

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Hmm, I'd say this was the best episode since episode 3. There were some interesting developments, like Ryner and Tiia joining up, and, from what I could tell(lousy Funimation stream...), the animation style used here was very unique. I especially liked the scene where Tiia ate that one soldier guy. Disgusting, yeah, but nicely animated. =)
 
11-05-10, 10:21 PM

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Didn't like the animation changes, thought it looked horrible and in parts was ridiculously dark. Also it had Iris in it speaking so yeah. Other than that good solid episode. I kind of wanted to see Tiia got up against Sion and his army more but what we got was still great.

Looking forward to the next episode, the less Ryner and Ferris are together the better the series seems to get.
 
11-05-10, 10:54 PM

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That was some pretty awesome animation but an unusual art style. The action sequences were amazingly done, fluid and complex. But they could have worked on getting the geometry of the characters right.

Poor Ferris, she looked really hurt at the end of the conflict. D:
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11-05-10, 11:32 PM

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I thought that last week's episode was great but this one was even better. We begin to see Ferris develop more emotions thanks to Ryner. I'm guessing we won't be seeing any Ryner/Ferris anytime soon.

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11-06-10, 12:29 AM

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Great episode, plot-wise.

The animation was really fluid and it felt alive albeit a bit clunky, but it lost on quality, like colors, shading (wtf with Lucile's face?), et cetera. I think I preferred previous style, it was more pleasant to the eye. The change doesn't suit this series.

I look forward to the next ep, but I won't hold my breath for any eye-candy anymore.
 
11-06-10, 1:21 AM

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Holllllllllly shit, Tiir is so awesome.

But what the fuck happened to the rest of this episode? It was awful. Ryner being emo, Ferris being OOC. Tiir could have just killed everyone and taken Ryner away... letting them live doesn't sound like him, either. What a clusterfuck.

So Ryner just goes with Tiir. Doesn't ask him where they're headed to, who Tiir is, who his "friends" are. Doesn't second-guess his decision to hang out with someone who chooses to kill and enjoys it (as opposed to Ryner having no control when he goes berserk). Sure. Because any sane person would do that. I can understand if Ryner had said something like "I'll go with you if you let everyone live", but that isn't even what happened here. Shitty writing is shitty.

This ep needs moar Miran. :[
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11-06-10, 1:39 AM

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The drama goes along with the decision thinking.
Ryner's decision is determine when Sion call Tiia as a monster.
Althou they did not explain it like in the LN, but the director use orange color to cover the screen....
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11-06-10, 2:36 AM

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I don't really care what Sion will turn out...I just want Ferris to be on Ryner's side always >.>
 
11-06-10, 3:06 AM

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I don't really care what Sion will turn out...I just want Ferris to be on Ryner's side always >.>


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11-06-10, 3:35 AM

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yamakasi said:
But what the fuck happened to the rest of this episode? It was awful. Ryner being emo, Ferris being OOC. Tiir could have just killed everyone and taken Ryner away... letting them live doesn't sound like him, either. What a clusterfuck.

So Ryner just goes with Tiir. Doesn't ask him where they're headed to, who Tiir is, who his "friends" are. Doesn't second-guess his decision to hang out with someone who chooses to kill and enjoys it (as opposed to Ryner having no control when he goes berserk). Sure. Because any sane person would do that. I can understand if Ryner had said something like "I'll go with you if you let everyone live", but that isn't even what happened here. Shitty writing is shitty.[


How old are you?

One should know that such conflicts where there isn't enough communication can lead to such things in real life, too. What did you expect Ryner to say? "Well, everyone has betrayed me, I feel like a little shitball but for the sake of justice, I will kill you right now!"? He might have laughed at him and could've showed him how miserable he is. But Ryner being a fighter of justice would be so unfitting at that point. Good thing that he didn't do that, that would've made the anime shit.
You mustn't forget that real people do mistakes, too. Especially if they feel as down as Ryner did. Sometimes they do what they know is bad out of sadness, defiance, or because they want to pay others back without even noticing any of this.

The last couple of episodes had a meaning, you know. And the anime showed us the feelings and the ways of thinking of the peopole in this anime very well. It was very obvious how hurt Ryner was. He pretended to do it for the sake of the country and even lied to himself, but I believe that he just couldn't handle the situation and wanted to flee after being betrayed once more.


I think that the inner conflicts of all of them are presented very well and all of this will lead to a nice tragedy. They will fight against each other even though they don't want to. Talking to each other much earlier could've prevented it, but this is just how it has turned out for them.
 
11-06-10, 3:58 AM

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nice ep and i like the animations
 
11-06-10, 5:36 AM

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Looks like every good anime need an episode with TTGL'ish animation. It's an amazing ep nevertheless, I'm thinking about finally giving this show a 10.

Oh, and Luke disappearing makes me wonder if he really won that fight against Miran.
 
11-06-10, 6:59 AM

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It wasn't a bad episode, but it was insanely dark. By that I mean so many scenes were black and shadowed. Couldn't see a darn thing. It kind of killed the enjoyment.
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11-06-10, 7:11 AM

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What was with Sion's wierd arm-waving in so many scenes? Looked like he was being controlled by a puppeteer on crack.

Still it was a great time seeing Ryner so depressed and everyone feeling misunderstood and betrayed. Like a classic breakup: really, the problem is not you -- it's me.
 
11-06-10, 9:33 AM

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It wasn't a bad episode, but it was insanely dark. By that I mean so many scenes were black and shadowed. Couldn't see a darn thing. It kind of killed the enjoyment.


Do NOT watch the Funi version. It's REALLY bad. Get the Derp version which has Funi subs + brightened video.
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11-06-10, 11:09 AM

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The animation was neither good or bad but i loved it. It's strange at some points but it's awesome at fights.
This was a sad episode aswell, but Sion looked cool in that outfit <3

Can't wait to BD releases. >.<



 
11-06-10, 11:39 AM

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kevin_video said:
It wasn't a bad episode, but it was insanely dark. By that I mean so many scenes were black and shadowed. Couldn't see a darn thing. It kind of killed the enjoyment.


Do NOT watch the Funi version. It's REALLY bad. Get the Derp version which has Funi subs + brightened video.


As far is I know, Derp uses own translations, not FUNi's.
 
11-06-10, 1:05 PM

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But what the fuck happened to the rest of this episode? It was awful. Ryner being emo, Ferris being OOC. Tiir could have just killed everyone and taken Ryner away... letting them live doesn't sound like him, either. What a clusterfuck.

So Ryner just goes with Tiir. Doesn't ask him where they're headed to, who Tiir is, who his "friends" are. Doesn't second-guess his decision to hang out with someone who chooses to kill and enjoys it (as opposed to Ryner having no control when he goes berserk). Sure. Because any sane person would do that. I can understand if Ryner had said something like "I'll go with you if you let everyone live", but that isn't even what happened here. Shitty writing is shitty.
Did you not watch the show or something? As Tiir said: Killing Sion would make Ryner enter the berserk mode. Hence he didn't attempt killing anyone. With this its quiet clear that Alpha Stigma =/> Tiir's eye power(damn did I forget or has it not been mentioned yet?). So with this its clear that Tiir is not only a hottie but also someone with functional cerebral hemispheres.

Firstly Rryner said he will tag along because it was the easiest escape route in the situation he was in.....you know with the emotional drama and self depression. It doesn't guarantee that he will abide by Tiir's orders or actions. He is simply spending his time so as to not be a burden on Sion, Ferris, etc etc. He is trying to accept that he must live alone forever so as to not hurt people he cares about so why not travel with someone similar. Plus Tiir is evil. Even if Ryner goes all berserk on him it really wouldn't matter because of Tiir's counter ability and the fact that he kills people like ants.

Loved the drama and Tiir❤ and Ryner❤ and where is Miran❤?
Wow the gore❤
Tiir moves like a poltergeist XD
Wow the animation ☹
Yes yes Ferris go after your boy!! ♪......love is in the air♪
 
11-06-10, 2:34 PM

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wakka9ca said:
kevin_video said:
It wasn't a bad episode, but it was insanely dark. By that I mean so many scenes were black and shadowed. Couldn't see a darn thing. It kind of killed the enjoyment.


Do NOT watch the Funi version. It's REALLY bad. Get the Derp version which has Funi subs + brightened video.


As far is I know, Derp uses own translations, not FUNi's.


Except that when I compare the two, the difference is not even noticeable. So I am doubting the fact that they use their own translations.
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11-06-10, 2:40 PM

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Derps subs are filled with typos all the time. I can't believe that funi isn't QCing.
 
11-06-10, 5:27 PM

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Great Episode.

Ferris really has grown to like (love?) Ryner, as confirmed by her brother.
 
11-06-10, 5:30 PM

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Derps subs are filled with typos all the time. I can't believe that funi isn't QCing.

When subs are ripped, usually the rippers will typo stuff on purpose.
 
11-06-10, 5:41 PM

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I watched it on Funimation.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
 
11-06-10, 5:52 PM

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I watched it on Funimation.

Me too. I didn't see any typos unless I missed something.
 
11-06-10, 7:06 PM

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The new animation was a piece of SHIT

The story was great but the animation just ruined what would be an almost perfect episode -_-

Please someone tell me that it was only for this episode...
 
11-06-10, 9:54 PM

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Wow, shit got real this episode. I like the mood and pace change of this episode, really looking forward to more episodes now.
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11-06-10, 10:10 PM

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Seeing Ryner's pained my face made me so sad...
& now I'm wondering what Sion will do now, In the beginning I like him... but now I'm starting to wonder, how his idea of a utopia is really possible...
 
11-06-10, 10:34 PM

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I am loving this anime so much, imo the animation wasn't bad. I can't wait to see the next episode.... which won't be for a long time!
 
11-06-10, 11:05 PM

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From the last episode's preview, I was expecting more development in this episode. They were stuck in the same location for this whole episode. I was really loving the exchange between Tiia and Ryner, along with Ryner, Sion and Ferris. Quite alot of mixed up feelings and emotions over there, no wonder Ryner chose to leave. But at least he was thinking for Sion and Ferris sake if he left, such a caring friend..

Tiia could unexpectedly be quite a 'good' person when you see him away from the battlefield. He's quite a good persuader, he mentioned he had lots of other friends as well right? It's like he brought them all together from what we see in the next episode's preview. But..why are they all KIDS?! I guess they all died before they reached maturity..

Overall, I really liked the episode alot (though I'm still wishing it could have gone on a little longer!!). Ahh well, one more week to go~
 
11-07-10, 2:35 AM

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The animation was definatly a step in the right direction. i loved it, it seemed alittle too dark during the part where Ferris was punishing Ryner though. lol but other than that, i think the animation looked pretty epic. ^_^ I really hope they make a season 2.
 
11-07-10, 6:52 AM

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The duties of a king, huh.
Pretty sad, but I wonder what Lyner will be doing in the next upcoming episodes?
I don't think he'll go on a rampage and start ripping off heads too, it'll just go against his whole slacker-hood principle, lol.

i Totaly agree with you!!!!!!
 
11-07-10, 7:02 AM

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Drop of quality in art in the animated scenes aside, another great episode.
Does Tiia's teleporting and moving like a shadow his magic or another power of the Iino Dwoe?
So it seems Suzaku and LelouchTiia and Ryner will team up to take over Britanniatravel together and find these "friends". Maybe these are the other eye users mentioned last time.
Ferris' new outfit and Kiefer in a dress next episode. Do want.
 
11-07-10, 8:05 AM

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Finally this show became "legendary". Can't wait for the next episode.
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11-07-10, 8:51 AM

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Nice episode, like the new style it it's something I'll have to get used at :P

Wow Ryner made one hell of a decision :O Can't wait to see next episode and to know what'll happen next ^^

Poor Ryner.. he didn't had a family?...


 
11-07-10, 9:11 AM

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OMFG!! i loooooved this ep! i know half off yall will call me crazy because i love the gore, the betrayal, and just how awsome thisshow is!!! cant wait for the next ep!
 
11-07-10, 2:10 PM

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King obligations? Yea, right. If he didn't look at him as a monster, he wouldn't have issued that order.

I never liked Sion, I always thought he was sleazy bastard.

If you were in Ryner's place, constantly seeing people hate you, despise you and even who you went as far as to call them best friend after all that to betray, even if it was "duty", you wouldn't stay near them. Rather go with the ones, who suffered the same consequences as having such power, who understands you better than stay and get constantly betrayed.

Although, I kinda feel sorry for Ferris, she was pretty awesome, probably one of the few who never looked at Ryner as a monster from the very beginning, I respect her for that.

I really hope they turn the sequel into an anime as well. I can't get enough of this anime. It's so epic. :<
 
11-08-10, 9:37 AM

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Kinda weird animation but it was nice either.
Ryner went with that freak guy. He left Ferris behind again. Idiot :P
 
11-09-10, 6:59 PM

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Zilpzalp said:
Derps subs are filled with typos all the time. I can't believe that funi isn't QCing.

When subs are ripped, usually the rippers will typo stuff on purpose.

FYI, Derp has their own TL. They don't rip.

 
11-10-10, 4:52 AM

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For complaints to Derp's subs, you can complain to this guy
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11-10-10, 11:15 AM

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King obligations? Yea, right. If he didn't look at him as a monster, he wouldn't have issued that order.

I never liked Sion, I always thought he was sleazy bastard.

If you were in Ryner's place, constantly seeing people hate you, despise you and even who you went as far as to call them best friend after all that to betray, even if it was "duty", you wouldn't stay near them. Rather go with the ones, who suffered the same consequences as having such power, who understands you better than stay and get constantly betrayed.

Although, I kinda feel sorry for Ferris, she was pretty awesome, probably one of the few who never looked at Ryner as a monster from the very beginning, I respect her for that.

I really hope they turn the sequel into an anime as well. I can't get enough of this anime. It's so epic. :<


pretty much exact thing i was thinking.
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11-10-10, 5:22 PM

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For complaints to Derp's subs, you can complain to this guy or this guy.


No, we're not gonna complain. We are grateful they release a much better quality version as soon as possible. Who cares about typos in subs. The series is in Japanese anyway just turn off the subs if you them distracting or annoying. And who cares if they rip or not. I don't as long as I get the video.
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11-10-10, 6:24 PM

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Well, there are some who seem to complain so I just pointed them to the right persons rather than bitch about it.
 
11-13-10, 8:00 AM

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Actually they upped the animation quality in this episode. The action scenes were very well animated and were very fluid. Especially the army scene, but it resulted in the creators compromising with the drawings in the non-action scenes making people think that animation got worse


Many people see this kind of animation and think that it's more fluid and better but actually it's worse. If you take a good look they move like crazy puppets on strings, make a tone of unrealistic useless moves to give the impression of fluidity along with there whole body structure being deformed once again to give a fake impression of fluidity. It's even further from real life movement and they achieve it by sacrificing the artwork but also making movement by useless way of unsolid artwork and lines during the characters movement, hiding the exact way of movement putting fake movement and generally distorting everything.
Basically it's one cheap motherfucking way on fooling people like you thinking they did a better job with animation. Is like making a car giving the impression of getting better intro corners(when it doesn't) by just leaving the wheels the engine and the steering wheel.
Ether they do a good job and make the animation even better by adding even more detail frames or they better leave it as it is than resorting to cheap tricks that in the end destroy everything else and except the easy believers, those with good eye see that they aren't really improving the animation but just giving a fake idea of fake fluidity.

Now that i finished my animation lecture i want to thank all the assholes that told us from the last episode thread the events of this episode. I hope you have the worst month of your life.

Anyway i can't get why Ryner followed that guy. He hardly even knows him, he realized that the guy is a crazy killer and yet by a stupid 1 minute lecture he got convinced to go with him? That really wasn't convincing.
If he didn't want to stick with Sion's plans anymore he could very well go wherever he wants alone.
What is he 5, and he needs a big strong guy to take him away from his bad daddy?
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11-14-10, 7:55 AM

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Yay, good to hear Sakurai's chara has long dialogues. ^_^ The quality of animation and art differs from the past episodes, which rather looks LQ this time. I hope to see the same quality like in the past episodes forep 19 and up.
 
11-14-10, 3:14 PM

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The animation was just...ODD!
Tiia is to be feared!!
Ferris and Iris are on my last nerve. Especially Ferris and her sickeningly tsundere ways.
I think Sion started off as a good guy, but I believe he's going to change soon.
He takes credit for getting rid of the evil doers, but Tiia and Ryner left on their own. Sion gets heralded as a hero for that? Oh, puuuleeeezze!!!
 
11-20-10, 2:01 PM

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Art looks a bit off this episode o_O
Anyways, Ryner's dream was ... aww ... D: Ferris finds Ryner and then ... this Tiir guy comes? He's SO awesome. Except why did you leave Ryner?! T_T It makes sense and all but I didn't want him to go >_<
That being said, awesome episode I think :D Not too sure about the next one though ... looks like more Kiefer ... bleerrrggh
 
11-25-10, 6:06 PM

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Woah! Luke being an Elite type, I was wondering about Milk's squad back then..

I'm feeling a lot of drama after Ryner decides to join his kind..

Ferris..;(
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11-30-10, 6:20 AM

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This episode was sad and it's not often that anime makes me feel sad. or any other work of fiction for that matter.

Now I wonder where this show is gonna go.
 
11-30-10, 8:26 PM

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best episode so far ^.^
10/10!!! luv the storyline...
 
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