| It's all a matter of preference. Just because stuff rated highly are terrible crap to you doesn't mean people have bad taste; it just means that your opinion is not of the majority. |
| Moved to the recommendations board. |
| You lost me when you wrote the word originality. Anyways, there's mature stuff for intelligent people out there: Gankutuou GitS LoGH Hell, Ergo Proxy, to list a few. |
| Because people don't know how to rate I guess... well anyway if you liked Planetes try Haibane Renmei some more. |
Alas86Sep 8, 2010 6:25 AM
| Tell me about it, it seems a shocking amount of people just spam the 9s and 8s as if there were no scores below 6. And if you want relatively mature, thoughtful and somewhat unique anime... Angel's Egg Cowboy Bebop - Knockin' on Heaven's Door Ergo Proxy (A hit or miss though, some might find it too pretentious) Eve no Jikan FLAG Gankutsuou Ghost in the Shell Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (Better than the moviesd imo) Legend of the Galactic Heroes (Probably the best bet of the lot. Can't think of any more intelligent and mature anime.) Mind Game Mizu no Kotoba Nana (The level of the character writing puts this in this category imo) Noein - Mou Hitori no Kimi e (A fairly simple story, but has some rather interesting concepts) Pale Cocoon RahXephon (Pretty much a NGE clone, but a very good one nonetheless) Revolutionary Girl Utena (A bit of a mixed box, shifts between silly comedy, serious drama and the occasional mindrape.) Rose of Versailles (Awesome historical drama) Seikai no Monshou (Sequels in particular) Space Runaway Ideon (NGE got a lot of inspiration from this. But the two movies might be better than the series, as they have all the important stuff from the series plus a proper ending) Texhnolyze The Sky Crawlers Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 |
| Because a lot of people don't watch shows that won't interest them. Think about it, are you going to "Watch" solo clanaad or another show you're not interested in if you know you're not going to like it? Nope.. The people who enjoy romance will, and typically people who like romance and find a fairly ecent romance will rate it..Fairly high. Personally, I watch 4-5 genre's of anime. I'll almost watch anything you throw at me(Aside from naruto, OP etc.), and if you sit there and say "OMG U GUIS DUM U DUN KNO HOW 2 RATEEE!!!" because you like a genre they don't.. Well I'm sorry, you might be the one incapable of rating shows within that genre. If you look at ratings as a way to scale your own preference you're not intelligent in the first place. Onto the recs.. Rainbow is GREAT for a more mature action maybe not "Intelligent"(Esp.. eps 15-25 ish). Gungrave could float your boat if you want a good plot(There's stupid ass action all over the place, though) Bacanno is an option Ghost In the Shell SAC is a great pick here, and sitting @ 52 episodes makes it quite time consuming. Monster is an obvious pick The count of Gank,-If you can get past the animation, this is a very, very good show. Revolutionary girl Utena, very philosophical. You NEED to watch this one two times. Ergo proxy-Phil. up the a-hole with a smart plot. Tokyo magnitude; I just started watching this, I'm not sure WHY I feel it's intelligent, it just is. Paprika if you can do movies. there's a lot more out there. I mean, if I update my list I've seen under 200 series and I can easily say there's been 30-50 inteligent ones I've watched. This coming from someone who primarily watches romance/drama. |
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NotSoEpicMuffinz said: Because a lot of people don't watch shows that won't interest them. Think about it, are you going to "Watch" solo clanaad or another show you're not interested in if you know you're not going to like it? Nope.. The people who enjoy romance will, and typically people who like romance and find a fairly ecent romance will rate it..Fairly high. Personally, I watch 4-5 genre's of anime. I'll almost watch anything you throw at me(Aside from naruto, OP etc.), and if you sit there and say "OMG U GUIS DUM U DUN KNO HOW 2 RATEEE!!!" because you like a genre they don't.. Well I'm sorry, you might be the one incapable of rating shows within that genre. If you look at ratings as a way to scale your own preference you're not intelligent in the first place. Agree with you there. +1 Baccano, GitS And I think Kara no Kyoukai fits with 'anime that needs to think' |
| Rainbow sucks imo :P I second/add: Legend of the Galactic Heroes Monster Tokyo Godfathers Mushishi Ghost in the Shell Metropolis Ergo Proxy Kino's Journey Grave of the Fireflies Kaiji Mononoke The Tatami Galaxy Welcome to the NHK! You got everything in there,Tv Series, Ovas, Movies, Sci-fi, Horror, Drama, Action, Space Opera, Comedy, slice-of-life. Take your pick. |
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| just because....ppl like that kinda stuff...like school days...y is it so low?? |
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| Also try: Canaan Casshern Sins Giant Killing Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade Juuni Kokuki Any of the Lupin series or OVA's Maison Ikkoku Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro Nabari no Ou Outlaw Star(you've rated Cowboy bebop pretty high so you might like this one, just not as jazzy) Please Save My Earth Saikano Senkou no Night Raid Shiki Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor(mecha in the sense of NGE without the full blown emo-ness) Terra e... Tokyo Tribe 2 Witch Hunter Robin ...looking at your list, not really sure what your tastes are as you've rated things Like Azumangah and Naruto Shippuden pretty highly, but anyways what I've rec'd is targeted for a seinen/mature audience and none have moé characters as for your question, its all about personal taste and unfortunately not everyone has the same taste as you...for one, Azumangah is not intellectual |
| OP maybe you could ask the Suggestions board to add a feature that could filter the ratings of users below 18 years old. (though I doubt that's even possible) However, I agree with what the other posters said. We have our own preferences when it comes to what is bad or good. You can see for yourself that the site indicates the statistics where you can see how many have seen it, how many have rated it and how it is ranked. If you do the math you'll understand why it's scored that way especially if you consider the demographics. To answer your problem, if you like mature and mindwarping anime then you should stick to the ones with seinen + psychological tags in them something along the lines of Monster, Death Note or Ergo Proxy. |
dillianSep 8, 2010 10:52 AM
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| Yo, Dawg, you telling me during that one season of Bleach where their swords come to life and battle them for two seasons didn't touch you? lol, learn 2 like good anime Naurato shits all over these recommendations |
| Try Ergo Proxy. Definately working on more than one layer, and more layers than most anime. |
| I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I don't consider myself a "critic". What qualifications do I have to sit here and critique shit as if I'm fucking Roper? I have a brain yeah, and I've seen a decent lot of anime for comparisons. But for me, what it boils down to is that I'm simply a viewer, someone who exists to be entertained. Something doesn't need to send me off into a deep state of psychological bliss to get a good score from me. As long as I'm entertained, and the anime is keeping my interest, then it's going to receive a favorable score. To some that's probably a problem, since what's entertaining to me is most likely unoriginal, crap to some. Oh well, might as well throw some recs out while I'm at it. Some of these were probably mentioned throughout the thread, but whatever. ┐(￣ー￣)┌ Ghost in the Shell 1 and 2. I've only seen the original movies, so I can't comment on Stand Alone Complex. Ergo Proxy Koi Kaze Princess Mononoke Ryoko's Case File - Reminds me a lot of X-Files in a way. Crest/Banner of the Stars Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 |
| Have you seen Mars of Destruction? |
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chilon's list said: Neon Genesis Evangelion 10 Serial Experiments Lain 4 You should watch Mars of Destruction. |
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| actually the REAL reason that most everything is rated above a 5 (technically avg) is because only the people who have WATCHED will rate it. and why would someone WATCH something that doesnt (even if only slightly) appeal to them? i for one will never watch a sports anime thus ill never rate one. and if you look at that fact that explains why sports animes have such great scorings. they are VERY directed and specific. |
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| potato, poh-tat-oh (>< it's hard to say that saying in text...) it's strictly preferences. you may think the things rated highly are stupid, but people could think your ratings are pure garbage too. obviously if you have enough people liking the show it's gonna get rated nicely and I don't know about other people really, I only gave a few under the rating of 5 because if i'm gonna stick it out and watch the anime, it has to be better than a 5 no doubt |
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chilon said: I don't understand why all these terrible shows have a rating of 8.2 on this site. Why everything... has 8.2 (or thereabouts). Aren't there any shows written for intelligent people.. for adults? Why do all these shows have the originality and depth of a broken piano? I suppose I'm just talking to a bunch of kiddies here.. but can anyone recommend some shows for someone who likes to think? You sir are an elitist. If you don't agree with the opinions of others, it does not mean you can simply label them "kiddies" who never watch "shows written for intelligent people". It only boiled down to your taste. Me? I think Neon Genesis is terrible and completely mediocre. Is it fair for me to call you "tasteless"? That thing had so many plot holes and god-awful character development and shit that just didn't make sense. People who like it simply says "ohhhh, the plot holes are for the viewer to fill in", as though that can't be said about any other plot hole that exists. But no, i wouldn't call you tasteless, it's simply that i didn't enjoy that anime as much as you did. Anyway, aside from my rant, if you want to "feel like you're intelligent" and boost your over-inflated ego by watching some specific anime, go with monster or cencoroll or (i didn't really like these myself) kaiba or mononoke. Oh, Kino's Journey is pretty thought-provoking as well (ohhh, but it's derived from a children's book, i suppose you wouldn't want to watch sometihng like that?) edit: the reason why everything is between 8 and 9 is that you are blind and cannot find shows outside that borderline. If you're just making a point, then it's simply because people on this site doesn't like to use the lower spectrum of their ratings and instead give about a quarter of their shows 10s. Seriously, most of the people on this site have over four fifths of their shows rated 7 or above. The remaining one fifth would subsequently be rated varying scores of fail, depending on how hard the person wishes to troll them. |
dxthegreatSep 8, 2010 7:50 PM
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| The Tatami Galaxy might catch your interest. The art is distinctive, the animation is great, and the story isn't for kids. It just takes a little time to get used to, like Baccano! |
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| Man, I hated Tatami the instant I saw the artwork. Was too bad, thought it was gonna be like some Genshiken Shows are rated high, because honestly, why would we continue to view bad animes? I have a massive drop list, bigger than anyone's I've seen on this site. If I think by episode 1 or 2 the anime will be average I drop it quick I have a few 4's and 5's, but usually the anime was so short I just painfully went through with it. I average to about 7. Good but not great. Just finished Darker Than Black. It was good, but people who rate it 8 and up are high as hell : / |
Arcade_fire87 said: Man, I hated Tatami the instant I saw the artwork. Was too bad, thought it was gonna be like some Genshiken The artwork is different, definitely, but as long as the story is decent I don't mind too much.... and yeah, I like the story XD (which reminds me, Arcade- you rec'ed Himitsu to me a while ago, and wow. It's like watching Grey's Anatomy as a police drama. I like it!) |
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| One word - opinion. You have an opinion, I have an opinion, and so does everyone else in the world, and people's opinions don't always coincide with each other. Its how the world works. If you are looking for recommendations, look into some of the seinin manga out their, they tend to be for an older audience (I think someone already said this, and so Im just further cementing there OPINION) |
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| Well, you should be the one deciding what good anime is and what's "intelligent" and "mature". Truthfully, I wasted hours upon hours on this site looking at animes that caught my eye with their cover picture until the score dipped below 7. Read the intro on MAL and see if sounds like it's worth putting on your to watch list. After that? Look for the recommendations of, "if you like this..." Animeplanet was a good place too. I'd type in animes I liked and it'd come up with similar genres/animes. I'm a picky anime watcher, but I'd get SOOO bored if all my animes were like Ergo Proxy. Sometimes a little junk that requires little thought is good. I like to switch up genres so I don't get bored. It's already hard finding unique animes, that's only going to appear less if you watch one type of anime PS-animes like Laine are pretentious as hell, I dropped it so quick |
TraumaHunter said: Well, tastes can change, or appearances can be deceptive. I'm sure plenty of users here started out with Naruto or Bleach and later found these to be bad enough to drop the scores. And then you have cases like me and Code Geass, where I was expecting something rather different from what it turned out to be.actually the REAL reason that most everything is rated above a 5 (technically avg) is because only the people who have WATCHED will rate it. and why would someone WATCH something that doesnt (even if only slightly) appeal to them? And lastly, just because you watch something to be entertained does not necessarily mean you must give it a high score even if it entertained you. I obviously knew full well Strike Witches would be a shallow pantsu anime from the moment I first read about it, but that didn't stop me from watching it when I was in the mood for brainless entertainment and fanservice. That being said, I still gave it a low score. |
Arcade_fire87 said: Read the intro on MAL and see if sounds like it's worth putting on your to watch list. After that? Look for the recommendations of, "if you like this..." Animeplanet was a good place too. I'd type in animes I liked and it'd come up with similar genres/animes. That's what you should be doing if you find ratings to be deceptive. Screw ratings, reviews, whatever else. Start with series similar to those you've enjoyed b4 or dive into your fave genres.Just read the synopsis and try it out a few episodes if it interests you. It won't hurt to try a few episodes before reaching a conclusion. Still, if you go into a series with your expectations as high as Mt. Everest, these expectations might kill your satisfaction. After all, it's all opinions. |
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LadySylvanas said: Arcade_fire87 said: Read the intro on MAL and see if sounds like it's worth putting on your to watch list. After that? Look for the recommendations of, "if you like this..." Animeplanet was a good place too. I'd type in animes I liked and it'd come up with similar genres/animes. That's what you should be doing if you find ratings to be deceptive. Screw ratings, reviews, whatever else. Start with series similar to those you've enjoyed b4 or dive into your fave genres.Just read the synopsis and try it out a few episodes if it interests you. It won't hurt to try a few episodes before reaching a conclusion. Still, if you go into a series with your expectations as high as Mt. Everest, these expectations might kill your satisfaction. After all, it's all opinions. Yeah, Cowboy Bebop was a huge let down from the hype. Darker Than Black was way too hyped to. Who's the consensus for the "best" animes in America? And why is Bleach and Naratard popular? |
| http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=2913 just watch all the anime on this club's anime relations. |
chilon said: I'm pretty sick and tired of anime. I don't understand why all these terrible shows have a rating of 8.2 on this site. Why everything... has 8.2 (or thereabouts). Aren't there any shows written for intelligent people.. for adults? Why do all these shows have the originality and depth of a broken piano? I suppose I'm just talking to a bunch of kiddies here.. but can anyone recommend some shows for someone who likes to think? Along the lines of Planetes or Neon Genesis. And if anyone mentions Wolf's Rain I'll ignore them forever. Well, if other people have bad taste, there's nothing you can do. The mature thing to do is to leave those boys to their fapping, instead of whining about it here. Anyways, it doesn't sound very convincing from you after I saw your anime list. :/ |
Hattori_Hanzo said: Yeah, a 10 for NGE and Azumanga Daioh, a 9 for Sailor Moon, a 8 for Naruto, a 7.9 mean score; a dropped and 4ed SEL. Definitely not the list of someone who should be criticising MALs scores.Well, if other people have bad taste, there's nothing you can do. The mature thing to do is to leave those boys to their fapping, instead of whining about it here. Anyways, it doesn't sound very convincing from you after I saw your anime list. :/ |
| Why does "everything" have a score of 8-9/10? Because the majority of MAL's membership is made up of uneducated, inexperienced American 13-year-olds. If they see HD visuals/pretty colours, they think they've found the best anime ever - not having much to compare against - and rate it 10/10. It's that simple, really. MAL isn't a site for critics. It's a site for ronrey tweens/teens to play in cyber sexing clubs. ...of course, your ratings are terrible, too - you having two of the most overrated films of all time as favourites. Ghibli sheep aren't cool in my book, tbh. |
| Because a score is just an opinion of the person. In my opinion, for me to score an Anime with a score 6 or lower, I have to find it being quite a boring series with a fair amount of "faults". An average to good series I will score 7-8. 9-10's are reserved for series that I thoroughly enjoy or I believe are just very well made. People don't seem to use ratings 1-5 often, they seem fairly useless and I understand why. I view 6-10 as if the system was just a 1-5 rating, with 6 being "1 star" and 10 being "5 stars", so 7.5 is an "average" series. |
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| You should watch Boku no Pico |
Aironic said: Why does "everything" have a score of 8-9/10? Because the majority of MAL's membership is made up of uneducated, inexperienced American 13-year-olds. If they see HD visuals/pretty colours, they think they've found the best anime ever - not having much to compare against - and rate it 10/10. It's that simple, really. MAL isn't a site for critics. It's a site for ronrey tweens/teens to play in cyber sexing clubs. ...of course, your ratings are terrible, too - you having two of the most overrated films of all time as favourites. Ghibli sheep aren't cool in my book, tbh. *walks into topic with eyes that look like Brock* Where is this section of MAL, I demand to know *determined frowney face* His list isn't that bad though. Except for having Naturao and being a little hypocritical to give one of the most popular worst animes of all time an 8, it's a fine list. And screw that shit yo, I have memories of seeing Sailor Moon on tv as a kid before school |
Kairen said: You should watch Boku no Pico Haha, I've heard that troll comment from someone else before on another forum |
| Hey, everyone has an opinion. And even sometimes people that drop don't rate their dropped anime. And mature stuff? Try: Clannad Welcome to the NHK I heard Legend of the Galactic Heroes is a very high-rated anime for intelligent people |
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| Holy crap what a thread bump. It almost sounds as if you didn't check these recommendations until now... ...Aside from that, since you gave Azumangah a 10, I'd recommend Nichijou. |
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