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Oct 27, 2008 11:28 PM

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vindemon64 said:
Kaori is hot. Seriously. Did you get a look at her shirt? Really tight. And I could of sworn I saw a very distinctive drawing of her breasts through her shirt. She was the only thing I was staring at for the first half of the episode.

Speaking of this particular episode, oh man, it was really frustrating. So much talking and random, useless shocked expressions about things. I felt the conversation between Touma and Kaori was about the same exact thing and could have been done in half the allotted time. Though we found out about a few interesting details, I feel like the overall plot really didn't progress that much and we've been stuck in the same place for the past few episodes: Touma trying to protect Index from Kaori and Styil.

I agree with everything stated above :P

This was the least interesting episode so far and Touma's speech was boring. Hell the whole episode was. I hope things get better. Right now it seems like they are trying to waste time. I know I shouldn't say that since I haven't read the manga, but that's how I feel.
Oct 28, 2008 2:36 AM

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This episode isn't what I had expected, there was hardly a fight scene, just Touma getting his ass beat then getting preached too. And then he would preach back, and it went back and forth for a while, him and Kanzaki preaching.

I am looking forward to a more exciting episode next week.
Oct 28, 2008 7:21 AM

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Touma's logic needs some work, I think...
If he is really her 'nakama', and based on their current information, why prevent Necessarius from saving her life...
Knowing that he does some drastic things later, but based on the current situation, it seems like he is endangering Index the most by preventing a memory reset, and even then does a bad job by getting injured and dragging her down...
*sigh*
What a guy...
Oct 28, 2008 2:52 PM

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Nice episode. Too bad almost everything went on in 1 place.
And yeah, the thing about "Humans use 10/15% of their brain" thing is a false myth.
Oct 28, 2008 4:10 PM

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I think the episode is all right. It is a bit too talky for my tastes; too much info dumping and not enough solid action. The fight scenes are cool, even though there isn't quite as much fighting as I would have liked.
Oct 29, 2008 1:14 AM

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Spy47 said:
Nice episode. Too bad almost everything went on in 1 place.
And yeah, the thing about "Humans use 10/15% of their brain" thing is a false myth.


Actually right now we use about 10% however Einstein was though to have used 20%. So maybe it might not turn out a myth for now. It might be possible with the technology in this series BUT we do not have it!
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Oct 30, 2008 2:18 AM
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wow.
really....wow
this anime is so deep
dey relli showed the emotion so well in that fite.
cant wait to see more.
Oct 30, 2008 3:30 AM

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Guess the next episode will be the last episode for this arc. Bring on Mikoto Imouto! xD
Oct 30, 2008 5:51 AM

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Yea this was boring as hell. Really don't know why I keep watching this crap.
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.
Oct 30, 2008 11:19 AM

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That's your opinion
Imo this is the best anime airing now (well maybe except VK Guilty :P )
Ep was great, and Kaori.... just perfect :)
Hope we'll see more of her in next episone :P
Well Necessarius isn't as good as it seems at begining either, imo it couldn't be compared with Code Geass/Death Note, but could be few places after them
Oct 30, 2008 11:55 AM

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well, the opening will keep my interest in this anime until the end I think XDD.
ep04 is really important to understand the story yeah but I think we're far from knowing everything.
But also yes, stop speaking too much !>___< I'm really waiting for the moment where touma will find a real reason to fight because for now, he reminds me of Yuji from SnS.. and other heroes that just find a cute girl and don't know why they protect her.


Oct 30, 2008 11:35 PM

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Jigero said:
Yea this was boring as hell. Really don't know why I keep watching this crap.

To explain what's going on.
But then it's a bit too much too, I think. It gets boring at times.
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Oct 31, 2008 8:12 AM

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Yeah, the talking is a bit boring at times. Needs more episodes like episode 2.
Oct 31, 2008 9:59 AM

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Pretty boring episode. Will continue watching it though.
Oct 31, 2008 11:33 AM

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"Wow people talking -> that's pretty boring" What's up with that mindset people? Get and audiobook, if you can't concentrate on a picture for more than ten minutes without hundreds of animations. -_-

Kaori is beating him up like crazy. Even risking to cut his nerves. She has to be beaten up near death once too. No discount for ladies. ^^ And her reasoning? None at all. Just because she can't let her feelings out a different way. tze pretty weak person"ality", which could not live with her "handicapped" friend.
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Oct 31, 2008 5:18 PM

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Schabrak said:
"Wow people talking -> that's pretty boring" What's up with that mindset people? Get and audiobook, if you can't concentrate on a picture for more than ten minutes without hundreds of animations. -_-

Kaori is beating him up like crazy. Even risking to cut his nerves. She has to be beaten up near death once too. No discount for ladies. ^^ And her reasoning? None at all. Just because she can't let her feelings out a different way. tze pretty weak person"ality", which could not live with her "handicapped" friend.

exactly. we're watching an anime here, not listening to an audiobook or reading text on a media player.
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Nov 1, 2008 8:47 AM

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The talks were long enough that it almost makes me doze off...xp
Nevertheless, I still love the ep.
Is Index another Ef~ version of Chihiro...??:D
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Nov 1, 2008 8:10 PM

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They need to explain people, better than keeping it a mystery till one episode left.

The first half was good and the second half was nice, I like this show, not as much as Kannagi but still better than everything wlse this season.
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Nov 1, 2008 9:43 PM

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It's nice that stuff is explained, but spending minutes and minutes of just talking is a little ridiculous. If stuff can be explained over time, then that's not so bad. Good action, though.
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Nov 2, 2008 4:02 AM

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Kineta said:
Faust721 said:
Spent too much time on Touma and Kaori. His whole speech was a bit much for me.
vindemon64 said:
Speaking of this particular episode, oh man, it was really frustrating. So much talking and random, useless shocked expressions about things. I felt the conversation between Touma and Kaori was about the same exact thing and could have been done in half the allotted time. Though we found out about a few interesting details, I feel like the overall plot really didn't progress that much and we've been stuck in the same place for the past few episodes: Touma trying to protect Index from Kaori and Styil.

After a while there, I was saying "Okay, come on, get to the point and move on"... and by the time they did, there was only 5 minutes left in the episode to do anything else.
Definitely the lowest of the four episodes. I think they could have condensed that speech, and done a better job of it, but that's my opinion. Still enjoying the story though, and looking forward to more. Just please, no episodes like this again.


Totally agree!

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Touma's logic needs some work, I think...
If he is really her 'nakama', and based on their current information, why prevent Necessarius from saving her life...
Knowing that he does some drastic things later, but based on the current situation, it seems like he is endangering Index the most by preventing a memory reset, and even then does a bad job by getting injured and dragging her down...
*sigh*
What a guy...


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Nov 3, 2008 4:37 AM

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I was expecting something different, but it worked nonetheless. The story is starting to unfold.

Sooo the bad guys aren't bad guys after all. Good, it makes the anime more realistic and not just good guys vs. bad guys. And I find it very cool that they have to erase her memory every year even though it hurts them to do that.

Lol moment when she tried to give him rice x)
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Nov 3, 2008 2:28 PM

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Spy47 said:
Nice episode. Too bad almost everything went on in 1 place.
And yeah, the thing about "Humans use 10/15% of their brain" thing is a false myth.


Actually right now we use about 10% however Einstein was though to have used 20%. So maybe it might not turn out a myth for now. It might be possible with the technology in this series BUT we do not have it!

Actually, humans use 100% of their brains, though you may be an exception.

Here's some neuroscience for dummies, such as yourself:
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html


DUDE I will be honest with you ALL YOU THINGS point to functionality and what about all possibilities and functions. DUDE the functions are not 100% and we using 100% our brain IS NOT REAL! The guy is a fake QUACK! If you would 100% of the mind you can read and teleport yourself.

Dude I DON'T TRUST YOUR SOURCE cause it is only giving obvious information that people make other people believe. Dude it is logical BUT I REFUSE it's comprehension cause it ain't right at 100%

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Nov 4, 2008 2:01 PM
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I'm with Touma, something is amiss about their explanation. Even as emotional as it was.
Ya, it's still not right what they are doing, even if it IS for Index's own good.

Awesome effects from Kaori's sword move.
Agreed, though he took a very Shirou-like way of approaching the subject. The "let's take the moral high ground even though I'm getting my butt handed to me" approach always got on my nerves, although at least he literally had no way of truly fighting back, unlike Shirou which just refused to let Saber fight like she was supposed to.

I'm guessing our hero will find some way of improving his power in some form, or using them in more creative ways, otherwise his one-trick pony is gonna get old real quick, no matter how cool it was.

This.

When he started blurting out "she's my nakama" I was like "oh no, PLEASE no", and facepalmed when he made his little speech about "she's your friend too, LEAVE INDEX ALONE". It feeled so forced.

Meh episode.
Nov 5, 2008 2:58 AM

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Worst episode so far. Touma degenerated from "has potential" to "just another hero". Well, I will continue watching, because that teacher is too adorable, and when it's good it's pretty darn good.

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DUDE I will be honest with you ALL YOU THINGS point to functionality and what about all possibilities and functions. DUDE the functions are not 100% and we using 100% our brain IS NOT REAL! The guy is a fake QUACK! If you would 100% of the mind you can read and teleport yourself.

Dude I DON'T TRUST YOUR SOURCE cause it is only giving obvious information that people make other people believe. Dude it is logical BUT I REFUSE it's comprehension cause it ain't right at 100%


Setting aside the fact you are horribly wrong and Flibbertigibbet correct, I think it pretty goddamn silly you refute his point by essentially saying "I only believe in people who have the same misguided opinion as me, and will not source my own statements."

I am quite intrigued by the "Einstein used 20%" thing, though. Never heard that before. Why him? There's been plenty of more brilliant minds than him. Hypatia, Sidis, Gauss, Leibniz, Wittgenstein, Goethe and Leonardo for example. I'll give a ell-oh-ell for the "100% gives teleportation", though. Does this mean Einstein could walk through walls? I knew he was badass, but that's stretching it.

And functionality and functions? What the...? What does that mean? Functionalism is pretty much dead if that's what you're after (I doubt it because it's highly irrelevant), CMT and connectivism are the flagships nowadays in cognitive science.

Anyway, yes, only ten percent of the brain are neurons - correct, but glia cells are used too - only ten percent of our neurons fire at any given time - more and its a seizure - but apart from that, you are freaking wrong.

I feel bad for derailing the thread but the ten percent myth is one of my most loathed ones.

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I really hate it when people are too stupid to realize they're stupid. I'm still not certain whether you're just genuinely retarded, or a satiric mastermind just yet though.


I have this strong inkling, hope even, that it's a troll.
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Nov 5, 2008 8:30 AM

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Oh my, this is geting lame ¬¬
That stupid scene with Touma and Kaoru.. Why can't he understand Kaoru? Yeah, yeah, pretty memories but Index will just forget... And for friend.. Being with that person knowing in a year you'll have to erase her memories so she can live... It's easier for both parts doing it like this... But Mr. Hero has to be the hero who'll find another cure... u.u'
If next episode's as bad as this one I'll have to drop this.. ¬¬
Nov 6, 2008 1:05 PM

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Great now the story is more clear, i wonder what happens next
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Nov 9, 2008 8:52 PM

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Awesome episode,I love this show.
It reminds me of Shakugan no Shana.
Nov 26, 2008 2:23 AM

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Probably the best episode for me. We heard the background story and left with an evil cliffhanger. Need more to fill my weekly Index dosage.

...and if those two are Index's collegues, how old exactly is Index? She's a loli just in looks, not in the mind? And I still don't understand how can someone read 103.000 grimoires.
Jan 2, 2009 5:42 PM

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This episode was okay I guess... it kind of bore me I thought that Touma would kick Kaori's arse.. xD Too much talking imo, but at least I get to see more of the story~
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Apr 5, 2009 3:56 AM

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Kaori is so sexy xD Touma is the typical main fool, very annoying >.<
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Sep 23, 2009 6:09 AM

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Hool said:
Kaori is so sexy xD Touma is the typical main fool, very annoying >.<
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It reminds me of Shakugan no Shana.
exactly again, which is why it bores the hell out of me with their senseless explanation trying to make sense of the situation. it just doesnt work.

i sure hope railgun isnt going to turn out to be something like this show: awesome animation, nice ideas/settings, but poor story and poor characters (only good for moe)
Oct 8, 2009 2:42 PM

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Nice battle scene and Kaori looks like hot in the up knotted shirt of hers :D

An interesting twist in the story, so it seems Kaori and Styil aren't the typical power hungry villains, though I'm not sure if I'd call them good friend either.
Since they just "grew tired" of Index having her memories erased in order to survive and thought it better to emotionally detach themselves and just forcefully capture her instead.

Though I'm starting to grow a bit bored of the typical useless male hero who always put himself in danger and will go to any lengths just to prove the "enemy" is wrong.
Jan 18, 2010 8:27 AM

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Wow, Kaori is damn hot. That belly and legs was just pure burning hot. I didn't expect those magicians to be "friends" with Index. Also, memory reset? Why don't they rest the grimoires instead of her own memories? Hmm.

Plus in the ending, I wonder if those 2 magicians are still going to be an enemy. I was thinking that they probably only came just to visit. It's a possibility. Just to visit or take Index away. What to choose? What to choose?

Also, Touma got beaten up so badly. His right hand isn't godly anymore. He needs a new power, lol.
Feb 9, 2010 12:11 PM

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Lawl, Touma got his assed kicked, he talks too much. But, I agree with him.
Feb 22, 2010 8:02 AM

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I feel like this lacks something. And if they are not really the enemies, then who is? I'm expecting a plot twist soon.
Apr 14, 2010 7:58 AM

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argh I didn't vote for Index in ISML 2009.
I can't believe I didn't realize how moe she is back then.
Jun 27, 2010 5:35 AM

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hmm touma sounds like another shirou. And im getting sick of index already, trying too hard to be cute

Hope this series picks up later...
Jul 26, 2010 7:22 PM
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I'm a little concerned as to where the story will go from here. It's not like Touma can justify keeping Index away from them any longer. She needs to have her memories erased, or else she'll die. But he can't very well just hand her over, there are 20 episodes left!
Maybe Index will get kidnapped by the real Magic Cabal, and Touma will have to team up with the Necessarius agents in order to get her back.
Sep 11, 2010 9:16 PM

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WHAT?!? Komoe carried Touma all by herself? Im going to have to call BS on that one.
Oct 5, 2010 2:30 PM

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Wow, everyone's staring at the top part of kaori for this ep .. haha.

HA! I guess so. ;)

I expected more action in that fight scene than talking, o well. I like the way the story is going though.
I wonder how Touma is going to save Index? Onto the next episode.
Oct 26, 2010 6:03 AM
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Kind of 'meh' episode. The passionate speeches got boring after a while.
Dec 10, 2010 5:46 PM

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Hmm. Interesting twist, and good episode, although the "fight" (quotation marks because... well, it wasn't really a fight - more like a beating) seemed a little drawn out. It was really good though.

But... if you think about it... Even if Index can only use 15% of her brain, she should be able to hold on to more than just one year of memories... ._.'' I mean. If the rest of us supposedly use 100% of our brains and 15% is used up per year, wouldn't we all have to reset a little less than every 7 years? (~6.67 years)... Whatever. Best I try not to use weird logic anyway for a sci-fi/fantasy anime. XD

Aw, Index protecting Touma at the end. :D (Or at least trying to?)
Dec 15, 2010 1:09 PM

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So they need to reset her memories because if not, she will die? I didn't really understand it but oh well. I expected more of a fight in this episode, but Touma's lil speech was good enough for me.
Jan 8, 2011 1:14 AM
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What if she's lying? And if she wasn't why not just tell Index that it's for her own survival? I don't get it.
Jan 10, 2011 1:59 AM

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Maybe it was the tranlations, but I doubt it. Either way, I didn't really buy the whole reason that they're erasing her memories, nor did I like the argument Kanzaki and Touma were having. Regardless, Touma's got to figure something out or make some hard decisions. Kinda effed up that that little girl needs brain maintenance just to live. I'm interested to see how this problem is resolved.

Feb 21, 2011 9:35 AM

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Leave it to a 24 ep series to have such a long explanation scene. You would never see such a scene in a 12 ep series! ^^

It all makes sense now though. The whole scene was really well done. But then theres the fact Index has Touma now; she's just going to give up rather than running away! =(

Apr 13, 2011 7:07 AM

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why do the have to emphasize that shiny hips and thighs, that perfectly shaped boobs and round butt( i indeed sound perverted <.<) everytime it focussed on kaori ==
this anime has too much moeness and too much smexiness for me to handle @_@
May 28, 2011 5:05 PM

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well definitly they wont erase the book memories. but only 15% for her AND she has perfect memorization too? than how the hell has she lived all this time, it can't be that they kept on taking away her memories.


May 30, 2011 6:39 AM

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well, maybe my subs were awful but actually I didn't get a thing from all that conversation betwen Touma and that lady in ragged jeans xD
again, music is such a win!
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