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dio_brando86 said: shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Haha. I agree. DEEN almost ruined it, ufotable revived it. Let's hope to see more from ufotable in the coming years. Shinji is useless for magic. But really Sakura gets the worms because they need to change her abilities to use Matou magic and so Zouken can control her. Kariya only gets the worms because he's pretty worthless for magecraft and needs to suddenly get more powerful to fight for the Grail in a short time. So even if Shinji was able to be a magus he shouldn't get the worm treatment since it's fatal eventually (as you can see from what it's done to Kariya so far) at least for men. Actually he would receive the same training.Kariya had only a year to be prepared for the war that's why he is in this condition.Shinji would have a a"proper" training unlike Kariya. |
ssjokg said: dio_brando86 said: shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Haha. I agree. DEEN almost ruined it, ufotable revived it. Let's hope to see more from ufotable in the coming years. Shinji is useless for magic. But really Sakura gets the worms because they need to change her abilities to use Matou magic and so Zouken can control her. Kariya only gets the worms because he's pretty worthless for magecraft and needs to suddenly get more powerful to fight for the Grail in a short time. So even if Shinji was able to be a magus he shouldn't get the worm treatment since it's fatal eventually (as you can see from what it's done to Kariya so far) at least for men. Actually he would receive the same training.Kariya had only a year to be prepared for the war that's why he is in this condition.Shinji would have a a"proper" training unlike Kariya. Yeah that's what I was trying to say although I guess it's not that clear. He wouldn't get the 1 year crash course like Kariya because it would kill him. |
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ssjokgMay 26, 2012 3:03 PM
Trenerka said: To be even more specific |
ThessMay 26, 2012 3:37 PM
Thess said: Trenerka said: To be even more specific |
BloodRequiem said: Generic "Kajiura's music is all the same" rant. It's not surprising that the soundtracks sound similar when she's composing for both anime series at the same time. It's only one track too, and it doesn't change the fact that her music is great.Miya_F_Exia said: ummm wtf?You're unbelievable, Kajiura. Just when you make a song in this season that manages to grab my attention, it turns out to be very similar to a song from a tv series that has not even being aired yet (SAO). Extremely creative, you are. |
stAtic91May 26, 2012 3:56 PM
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ssjokg said: Yeah I heard that shit in the spoiler. Should they make that into the movie such as the shocking parts of Kara no Kyoukai I heard of in regards to your spoiler one part of then RAGE OVER 9000 at those parts in that movie as they happen. It I think it might top off or on PAR with UBW part of heart ripping is all I will say to not spoil it. shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Nope he was as useless as his father,no reason for training.But he ,as you know , But TBH I don't think UBW heart ripping will ever be beaten for me. Try 30 minutes being traumatized like having rabies on the floor? Yeah good thing the shock did not KO me from emotional toll. That was long ago though. dio_brando86 said: SHIIIIIIIIT! I though she really did there, oh well. At least emotional impact of that part first time is pure murder. ssjokg said: Hydnlife said: Damn is everyone gonna get killed off now? its been nothing but deaths for 2 straight episodes I guess ufotable did a bad job at showing that Maybe they will Regardless I am hoping for hocus pocus to save her state mentioned but I guess not going to happen. So WTF happens to her after all this shit ends, I mean the whole war permanently? |
Yumekichi11May 26, 2012 4:02 PM
Yumekichi11 said: ssjokg said: Yeah I heard that shit in the spoiler. Should they make that into the movie such as the shocking parts of Kara no Kyoukai I heard of in regards to your spoiler one part of then RAGE OVER 9000 at those parts in that movie as they happen. It I think it might top off or on PAR with UBW part of heart ripping is all I will say to not spoil it. shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Nope he was as useless as his father,no reason for training.But he ,as you know , But TBH I don't think UBW heart ripping will ever be beaten for me. Try 30 minutes being traumatized like having rabies on the floor? Yeah good thing the shock did not KO me from emotional toll. That was long ago though. What movie?As for UBW thats the reason I hate Gil even if he is a great character in general.His victim is my #1 anime girl(on par with Nagato Yuki) |
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Thess said: Trenerka said: To be even more specific I said that because I have re-read that scene just yesterday and I remember that bit. Quoting: |
ssjokg said: Well you never know how they will do HF. Movie or TV series. Obviously all are saying 26/24 episodes series. Where I would prefer 26 episodes.Yumekichi11 said: ssjokg said: Yeah I heard that shit in the spoiler. Should they make that into the movie such as the shocking parts of Kara no Kyoukai I heard of in regards to your spoiler one part of then RAGE OVER 9000 at those parts in that movie as they happen. It I think it might top off or on PAR with UBW part of heart ripping is all I will say to not spoil it. shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Nope he was as useless as his father,no reason for training.But he ,as you know , But TBH I don't think UBW heart ripping will ever be beaten for me. Try 30 minutes being traumatized like having rabies on the floor? Yeah good thing the shock did not KO me from emotional toll. That was long ago though. What movie?As for UBW thats the reason I hate Gil even if he is a great character in general.His victim is my #1 anime girl(on par with Nagato Yuki) FINALLY! Have I found a person that hates Gilgamesh for the same reasons? MARVELLOUS! You are indeed the first one to hate Gilgamesh for the same reason as me. Others just did not or never mentioned to me those reasons. |
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Yumekichi11 said: ssjokg said: Well you never know how they will do HF. Movie or TV series. Obviously all are saying 26/24 episodes series. Where I would prefer 26 episodes.Yumekichi11 said: ssjokg said: Yeah I heard that shit in the spoiler. Should they make that into the movie such as the shocking parts of Kara no Kyoukai I heard of in regards to your spoiler one part of then RAGE OVER 9000 at those parts in that movie as they happen. It I think it might top off or on PAR with UBW part of heart ripping is all I will say to not spoil it. shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Nope he was as useless as his father,no reason for training.But he ,as you know , But TBH I don't think UBW heart ripping will ever be beaten for me. Try 30 minutes being traumatized like having rabies on the floor? Yeah good thing the shock did not KO me from emotional toll. That was long ago though. What movie?As for UBW thats the reason I hate Gil even if he is a great character in general.His victim is my #1 anime girl(on par with Nagato Yuki) FINALLY! Have I found a person that hates Gilgamesh for the same reasons? MARVELLOUS! You are indeed the first one to hate Gilgamesh for the same reason as me. Others just did not or never mentioned to me those reasons. Are they ever going to do HF? I don't see any news. But if they do, I hope it will be done by ufotable. and even better if the do fate/hollow as well. |
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shanimebib said: Nothing has been announced. It's just wishful thinking as of yet.Are they ever going to do HF? I don't see any news. But if they do, I hope it will be done by ufotable. and even better if the do fate/hollow as well. |
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shanimebib said: Yumekichi11 said: ssjokg said: Well you never know how they will do HF. Movie or TV series. Obviously all are saying 26/24 episodes series. Where I would prefer 26 episodes.Yumekichi11 said: ssjokg said: Yeah I heard that shit in the spoiler. Should they make that into the movie such as the shocking parts of Kara no Kyoukai I heard of in regards to your spoiler one part of then RAGE OVER 9000 at those parts in that movie as they happen. It I think it might top off or on PAR with UBW part of heart ripping is all I will say to not spoil it. shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Nope he was as useless as his father,no reason for training.But he ,as you know , But TBH I don't think UBW heart ripping will ever be beaten for me. Try 30 minutes being traumatized like having rabies on the floor? Yeah good thing the shock did not KO me from emotional toll. That was long ago though. What movie?As for UBW thats the reason I hate Gil even if he is a great character in general.His victim is my #1 anime girl(on par with Nagato Yuki) FINALLY! Have I found a person that hates Gilgamesh for the same reasons? MARVELLOUS! You are indeed the first one to hate Gilgamesh for the same reason as me. Others just did not or never mentioned to me those reasons. Are they ever going to do HF? I don't see any news. But if they do, I hope it will be done by ufotable. and even better if the do fate/hollow as well. nononono no one said that they will animate HF."IF" they animate it. Yumekichi fix your previous post a bit or else many will misunderstand. And FHA has saber but not |
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TheWitcher said: HF is Heaven's Feel - The last route of the Fate/stay night VN.Argh, I know for sure what's FHA/ UBW and all fate series and who are the characters but what's HF, could you tell me? I know it's offtopic yet I'm confused, HF? anyone? |
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stAtic91 said: TheWitcher said: HF is Heaven's Feel - The last route of the Fate/stay night VN.Argh, I know for sure what's FHA/ UBW and all fate series and who are the characters but what's HF, could you tell me? I know it's offtopic yet I'm confused, HF? anyone? and the most fitting route for a Fate/zero sequel IF ufotable(After FZ i believe HF will bring even more profit to tthem)gets the rights for FSN from deen.Also offtopic but can someone explain how the rights on a show work?Dont they expire or something? answer here or in my profile whatever works for you |
ssjokgMay 26, 2012 5:34 PM
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ssjokg said: stAtic91 said: TheWitcher said: HF is Heaven's Feel - The last route of the Fate/stay night VN.Argh, I know for sure what's FHA/ UBW and all fate series and who are the characters but what's HF, could you tell me? I know it's offtopic yet I'm confused, HF? anyone? and the most fitting route for a Fate/zero sequel IF ufotable(After FZ i believe HF will bring even more profit to tthem)gets the rights for FSN from deen.Also offtopic but can someone explain how the rights on a show work?Dont they expire or something? answer here or in my profile whatever works for you "IF" ufotable really does animate HF I hope they do something out of the ordinary and include in the bluray |
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Shiyo said: Damn that Kariya scene...he's so messed up right now. I think I laughed a bit too much at Gil's reaction lol. HF series with FZ quality would be amazing. If they end it where FSN starts off then I really hope a HF series come out. Along with a FHA animated series then my life will be complete. It would be really sad if we get a F/HA adaptation before we get to play it lol... full patch in 2050... |
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BloodRequiem said: ssjokg said: stAtic91 said: TheWitcher said: HF is Heaven's Feel - The last route of the Fate/stay night VN.Argh, I know for sure what's FHA/ UBW and all fate series and who are the characters but what's HF, could you tell me? I know it's offtopic yet I'm confused, HF? anyone? and the most fitting route for a Fate/zero sequel IF ufotable(After FZ i believe HF will bring even more profit to tthem)gets the rights for FSN from deen.Also offtopic but can someone explain how the rights on a show work?Dont they expire or something? answer here or in my profile whatever works for you "IF" ufotable really does animate HF I hope they do something out of the ordinary and include in the bluray you might have forgotten something....oh wait you didnt.Let them start with the true end .After that I dont have any problem with them animating all the bad ends |
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| I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Although I thought Kariya's in the right on this one; But it's really too bad Kariya didn't get to do him in himself. He deserved a lot worse than simply being impaled. |
Estoy_GordoMay 26, 2012 7:07 PM
4kicks said: Kariya's in the right on this one; But it's really too bad Kariya didn't get to do him in himself. He deserved a lot worse than simply being impaled. Are we watching the same anime? Or are you just trolling. I sincerely hope that you didn't seriously mean what you just said. |
BloodRequiemMay 26, 2012 6:35 PM
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| besides chase scene which i wish was longer..fuck this episode T_T Kariya really has lost it all pretty much..i hope he makes Kirei suffer too! |
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4kicks said: And who the hell is she to accuse him of murder? She didn't even see it happen. It's like walking in a room with a dead guy and a man in a suit standing next to him, only to say "You killed him!" when really it could have been the detective overseeing the case of the dead guy. Seriously? 1. She knew Karyia hated them both for what they did to Sakura 2. How would you react seeing your wife/husband in front you dead just next to the person who hates him/her and fights her/him in a death tournament like Holy Grail War? I bet you'd just calmly greet him and ask who did that? More than that: Karyia didn't even insist on saying that he didn't kill him, the idiot got mad and wanted to kill her too. |
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| Would have been more fitting if he raped her instead but oh wells. Kariya is such a tool. |
| 10/10, would fap again. That V-MAX, soundtrack, church scene, fabulous Gil and wine sampling Kirei. This entire episode, really. |
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Day2Dream said: I think it would have been better if Aoi somehow did escape with Rin as in USA or something. Would have been more fitting if he raped her instead but oh wells. Kariya is such a tool. Should have never stayed around the area itself. |
TheWitcher said: 4kicks said: And who the hell is she to accuse him of murder? She didn't even see it happen. It's like walking in a room with a dead guy and a man in a suit standing next to him, only to say "You killed him!" when really it could have been the detective overseeing the case of the dead guy. Seriously? 1. She knew Karyia hated them both for what they did to Sakura 2. How would you react seeing your wife/husband in front you dead just next to the person who hates him/her and fights her/him in a death tournament like Holy Grail War? I bet you'd just calmly greet him and ask who did that? More than that: Karyia didn't even insist on saying that he didn't kill him, the idiot got mad and wanted to kill her too. Makes sense. Point taken. Doesn't change the fact that he did love her, and felt even more betrayed when she essentially rejected him in the end, for lack of a better word. |
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TheWitcher said: More than that: Karyia didn't even insist on saying that he didn't kill him, the idiot got mad and wanted to kill her too. He snapped because of the stress and the worms consuming him, or do you think anyone would stay sane after that? 4kicks said: Makes sense. Point taken. Doesn't change the fact that he did love her, and felt even more betrayed when she essentially rejected him in the end, for lack of a better word. It was more than that. He is going to die because he wanted to save her daughter and she has the nerve to blame him about Sakura situation, accusing him he never loved anyone. True Aoi was grieving, but hell I would have bitchslapped her. Hard. Although, Kariya did got out of hand was because he was actually insane at that point. |
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| holy shit this episode makes up for the past few somewhat mediocre episodes. :D 5/5 So tragic.... |
Thess said: This... Aoi blamed kariya because the Matou took Sakura from her. He blamed Kariya for something TOkiomi and Zouken decided on their own, something Kariya himself opposed and was trying to fight against. She Blamed the one person who was on Sakura's side. If that's not unjust and derserving of anyone's anger then I don't know what is. Besides, Aoi had seen Kariya's condition and how he pledged he would return their happy days. Did she seriously think he would destroy his body and mind to this degree just to please Zouken and for no other reason, or just to kill Tokiomi? His mind degenerated to the point all he thought was to kill Tokiomi yes, but the start of it all was Sakura and her safety.TheWitcher said: More than that: Karyia didn't even insist on saying that he didn't kill him, the idiot got mad and wanted to kill her too. He snapped because of the stress and the worms consuming him, or do you think anyone would stay sane after that? 4kicks said: Makes sense. Point taken. Doesn't change the fact that he did love her, and felt even more betrayed when she essentially rejected him in the end, for lack of a better word. It was more than that. He is going to die because he wanted to save her daughter and she has the nerve to blame him about Sakura situation, accusing him he never loved anyone. True Aoi was grieving, but hell I would have bitchslapped her. Hard. Although, Kariya did got out of hand was because he was actually insane at that point. And the Zouken/Kirei conversation is such a treat for Fate/Stay Night readers. It's a total tease of a certain Heaven's Feel scene. |
Leon-GunMay 26, 2012 8:05 PM
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Leon-Gun said: Thess said: This... Aoi blamed kariya because the Matou took Sakura from her. He blamed Kariya for something TOkiomi and Zouken decided on their own, something Kariya himself opposed and was trying to fight against. She Blamed the one person who was on Sakura's side. If that's not unjust and derserving of anyone's anger then I don't know what is. Besides, Aoi had seen Kariya's condition and how he pledged he would return their happy days. Did she seriously think he would destroy his body and mind to this degree just to please Zouken and for no other reason, or just to kill Tokiomi? His mind degenerated to the point all he thought was to kill Tokiomi yes, but the start of it all was Sakura and her safety.TheWitcher said: More than that: Karyia didn't even insist on saying that he didn't kill him, the idiot got mad and wanted to kill her too. He snapped because of the stress and the worms consuming him, or do you think anyone would stay sane after that? 4kicks said: Makes sense. Point taken. Doesn't change the fact that he did love her, and felt even more betrayed when she essentially rejected him in the end, for lack of a better word. It was more than that. He is going to die because he wanted to save her daughter and she has the nerve to blame him about Sakura situation, accusing him he never loved anyone. True Aoi was grieving, but hell I would have bitchslapped her. Hard. Although, Kariya did got out of hand was because he was actually insane at that point. And the Zouken/Kirei conversation is such a treat for Fate/Stay Night readers. It's a total tease of a certain Heaven's Feel scene. I am not sure that Aoi's betrayal caused Kariya to go insane and 'kill' her. He was already betrayed by her, at least in his mind, when she choose Tokiomi over him. I would claim that Kariya had been insane (or has been losing his sanity) since the beginning of the series. After all, what sane person would possibly believe that Zouken would free Sakura if Kariya participates in the war, which he knows he has almost zero chances of winning. What sane person would attack Tokiomi with the fleeting chance Tokiomi would free Sakura from Zouken. WHAT SANE PERSON would bottle up all his emotions like a ticking time-bomb. Thinking Kariya under this perspective clarifies his choice of servant, the insane berserker--who might have actually had similar experiences. In addition, if I assume that the servants and master are meant to complement each other, then Kirei's change in perspective complements his change of servants. All the knots are tied together. |
| Oh Kariya, what a sad sad man you are. Never figured he'd kill Aoi, intentional or not. Also really hated the rage/depressed face she made before getting strangled. It looks so unnatural, ugh. I can't help feeling disappointed with the confrontation between Rider and Saber. Obviously Saber wanted to go find who really kidnapped Iri and Saber 'wakes up' from her dream or whatever in FSN so Rider shouldn't need to bother, but still. That's it? Not even much conversation between the two. Hopefully the next battle won't be so disappointing. |
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| Man Kariya completely lost it and Somehow rider survives that excaliblast (didn't think it was possible), but I don't expect him to last much longer sadly. oh yeah and almost forgot why the hell did Saber just leave the fight with Rider instead of asking him where iri was? Did she just think he wouldn't tell her or did she somehow figure it wasn't actually Rider? |
EOTWMay 26, 2012 8:51 PM
| On a side note, I remember Kirei mentioning that it was by coincidence that Saber met up with the real Rider. I wonder what he had in plan if Saber tracked 'Rider' (i.e. Berserker in disguise) to Kariya and Kirei. |
| Pooooor Kariya D; |
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| That Kariya/Aoi scene definitely felt like a rape scene. The animation of her body, combined with a bit of imagination, made the scene very compelling. |
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| I loved that bike chase! Saber is epic as always. Im suprised that Berserker had such an ability like that. Kariya has no one left that cares about him. He choked the only woman he loved, what a shame. |
EOTW said: Man Kariya completely lost it and Somehow rider survives that excaliblast (didn't think it was possible), but I don't expect him to last much longer sadly. oh yeah and almost forgot why the hell did Saber just leave the fight with Rider instead of asking him where iri was? Did she just think he wouldn't tell her or did she somehow figure it wasn't actually Rider? She didn't actually Excaliblast him in the LN. It wasn't really that clear in the episode either but she realizes she was tricked: |
| The animations in the bike scene were pretty legit, though they did not come out that great in sill pixels unfortunately, I will add to my gallery regardless. It's a shame the fight against Rider wasn't what I wanted it to be. :( The scene at the end was alright, facial expressions needed a little bit of tweaking, but it served its purpose. Gilgamesh showing up was fucking awesome! |
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