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RedInfinity Jan 12, 1:58 PM
Hey man! It's been a while!

Sorry to hear that you dropped it so early, but as you can teel I can fully share the sentiment. You've asked some great questions, so I hope that I can at least try to convince you to give it another go:

First, the comparison that you made with Fata is completely valid, and even after finishing umineko I still feel that fata delivered a more consistent and efficient story, without a doubt. I think very few people can genuinely excuse the length of umineko, it took me about 145 hours to play through the whole thing, that's like 350 episodes of anime haha. But I have to admit, when the story comes together in the last 2 chapters, my God it is actually incredible how much information was delivered that you can't possibly pick up on a first go. There is an extremely high rewatch value to the story, I daresay probably the highest out of any piece of media I have ever experienced. The plot is extremely thick, it actually makes Fata look simple in comparison. I never thought I would ever find another piece of fiction that rivalled the planning and execution of Fata, but here we are. I will be completely honest with you, umineko's plot and writing of mysteries and character interactions can be so incredibly clever that it's almost difficult to comprehend. The writer developed the story over a period of years and it really does so. It takes an absolute maniac and a perfectionist to have a story that is so bold and once which you would imagine to fail simply based upon how many plot holes it is bound to have. Somehow, when you finish the VN and read some essential parts of the manga, almost every single mystery is solvable. But the beauty in this is that very little is spoonfed, especially in the VN. It offers an unrivaled experience of having the player act as the detective in a set of mysteries which was unsolvable on first glance, but almost entirely obvious on a re-read. Plainly put, it is the quintesential mystery tale and contains some tragic elements which is highly reminiscent of the experience which Fata offers too.

About the moment to moment experience, this is very difficult to answer because it's completely subjective. For me personally, I also found the 3-4 hour intro boring and extremely slow, but it's really worth reading past this point until the mystery starts to unveil (when the typhoon hits). From there, I found the VN much easier to sit through because it has this old-school atmosphere of surviving with an unseen murder. The typhoon and the darkness alongside the building tension is very exciting compared to the slow introductions of each character. My honest advice is, get through as least the first episode. You are bound to be confused and think 'wait did I miss something', this is all intentional and normal as a reaction. Honestly, it's very hard to talk about umineko without spoiling some core aspects. It's a meme about umineko fans that they call umineko peak fiction and always can't justify it because it would all fall under spoilers so they just say something along the lines of 'trust me! Finish the whole thing and you will get it!', but honestly it's so true.

There are a few drawback though besides the length. It can be VERY repetitive. A lot of the CG's, sound effects and even whole scenes can be repeated time and time again, but this almost gives it a sense of continuity within the work so take it with a grain of salt. In addition it really can be a bit goofy, especially compared with Fata (although even fata was playful at times, being serious all the time is a bit obnoxious). The silliness is often times done on purpose, and a lot of it can, funnily enough, be truly explained in later plot reveals, although a significant portion is done because the writer enjoys adding a bit of silliness here and there. A lot of fans say that the writer loves to troll, and while this is true, a lot of it are call backs to his previous work, Higurashi. If you've seen the anime, you can probably piece this together but this is by no means a necessary part to understand umineko.

In a nutshell, umineko probably rivals the greatest works of literature of all time for me and 100% deserves the time you put into it. The final episodes are so emotional and cathartic that it's difficult to put into words. Once you piece things together there is such a sense of fulfilment that I feel that I want to re-experience it for the first time again. I highly recommend that you give it a go and enjoy the crazy journey while you can!

All the best
Usapz Dec 31, 2023 7:03 PM
Thanks, my 16 birthday! Driver license!
ALBERT-CAMUS Dec 16, 2023 10:24 PM
bet bet
notPara Dec 15, 2023 9:22 PM
I see i see i'm more active on there atm since i've been playing games for the past months. Also followed your letterboxd

It is what it is man lmaoo, it's the one that changed my life and i wouldn't be the person who i am today if it wasn't because gorilla sensei

notPara Dec 15, 2023 11:41 AM
Thx for accepting and nice to meet you.
You followed me on backloggd right? Might as well follow you on other socials
Clipso Dec 10, 2023 5:33 AM
Ikr lol

End of Eva is above all else, no need to say more.
sixper Dec 7, 2023 9:50 AM
ATLA and Adventure Time are my only 10s when it comes to western animation for kids or cartoons, Zuko from ATLA is in my top 10 characters of all time, one of the best character arcs ever. My favorite adult western animation series is Bojack Horseman, you should check it out. Sometimes I watch movies, still need to update my letterboxd lists.
I agree with what you said about The Great Pretender, and it was good as far of season 1, but after that it just started going downhill for me and overcomplicating stuff for no reason, trying to be more than it should. There's also season 3(or movie idk) coming in 2024.
Cornholio139 Dec 3, 2023 2:47 AM
I love old shows but I always watch them along with newer ones, I watch whatever catch my interest.
I think so far, every person that watched Ashita no Joe have joe in his favorites In mal.

I watch a lot of shounen and action shows In general, when I'll get to drama I know I'm going to dive deep in the genre, I plan on watching Kaiji and "Oniisama e..." later next year, I'll see If I'm in the mood for more after them and I'll probably pick a few shwos from your favorites to watch.
Cornholio139 Dec 1, 2023 2:02 AM
Thanks for accepting! love your taste, I had grave of the fireflies In my favorites for a long time.
I love seeing Joe In profiles, you seem like a fan of drama shows, I have to check some of your favorites.
Oneirophrenic Nov 26, 2023 7:54 PM
Thanks for the request.
sixper Nov 22, 2023 8:49 AM
Well. most visual novels on steam are nsfw. Been trying to get into different type of media and VN are kinda wack in general, that's why I asked if you know any other good ones like Fata(might get it since it's on sale). No idea about the rest, but I've seen some of the STEINS;GATE VN and it was meh.

I'm not even sure if I finished Legend of the Galactic Heroes, since it was quite some time ago, but it was pretty great for the most part. Recently I've been binge watching western animations and anime that are more "western inspired" like Great Pretender (mixed feelings about that one tbh). The other ones I watched were pretty good, especially Scott Pilgrim Takes Off and The Midnight Gospel. I really do recommend The Midnight Gospel if you like talks about spirituality and psychology.

If I don't binge watch anime I won't really be active on MAL, replies might take a while.
Xavv Nov 21, 2023 2:55 PM
Jiraishin by Takahashi Tsutomu.
sixper Nov 20, 2023 6:23 AM
I've already wrote this once, but my MAL tab froze.

Some time ago I've seen one of my MAL friends have a profile picture from this series, I had no idea what's about or the existence of a visual novel. The House in Fata Morgana has been added to my Steam wishlist and I'll probably buy it on sale(lucky me I guess, autumn sale on steam coming tomorrow) along side Subarashiki Hibi VN, I've been meaning to get that one for a long time, mostly to see what's all the hype about. Any other good visual novel recs? I'm guessing you're also getting them from Steam.

What have you been watching recently?
sixper Nov 19, 2023 1:55 AM
is this worth giving a try
literaturenerd Nov 17, 2023 12:31 PM
Just shooting the breeze and having casual conversation about fun anime can be enjoyable in its own right. I'm glad you have friends like that to share those conversations with! Interestingly enough, my girlfriend is really into anime and we have a freakish 85% MAL affinity. All of our disagreements typically come down to just a few shows. She really likes Oreimo and Wedding Peach which I'm not a fan of, whereas I like Elfen Lied and FLCL, which she doesn't vibe with. Oddly enough, she hates the latter more than the former.
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