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Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for Apr 20 - 26

by tsubasalover
Apr 28, 2015 2:50 AM | 95 Comments
Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for April 20th - 26th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
*1. 48,031 48,031 Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.1
*2. 12,640 12,640 Sword Art Online II Vol.7 Limited Edition
*3. 12,538 12,538 Shirobako Vol.5 Limited Edition
*4. 12,438 12,438 Kantai Collection: KanColle Vol.2 Limited Edition
*5. 11,807 11,807 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Vol.1 Limited Edition
*6. *7,330 *7,330 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 2nd Season Vol.1 Limited Editoin
*7. *7,091 *7,091 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei "Yokohama Souran-hen" Vol.3 Limited Edition
*8. *6,903 *6,903 K: Missing Kings Limited Edition
*9. *6,696 *6,696 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season Vol.1
10. *6,379 *6,379 Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso Vol.3 Limited Edition
11. *6,179 *6,179 Gundam: G no Reconguista Vol.5 Special Limited Edition
12. *6,092 *6,092 Gintama Blu-ray BOX Season 3
13. *4,820 *4,820 Aldnoah.Zero Vol.7 Limited Edition
14. *4,364 *4,364 Amagi Brilliant Park Vol.5 Limited Edition
15. *4,130 *4,130 Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo Vol.5
16. *3,491 *3,491 Senran Kagura: Estival Versus - Mizugi darake no Zenyasai
17. *3,467 *3,467 Dog Days'' Vol.2 Limited Edition
18. *3,432 *3,432 Shinmai Maou no Testament Vol.2
(cut-off 3,432)


DVD
*1. 12,104 12,104 Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.1
*2. *8,991 *8,991 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season Vol.1
*3. *3,100 *3,100 Diamond no Ace Vol.9
*4. *2,888 *2,888 K: Missing Kings Limited Edition
*5. *2,875 *2,875 New Prince of Tennis OVA vs Genius10 Vol.4
*6. *2,488 *2,488 Sword Art Online II Vol.7 Limited Edition
*7. *2,231 *2,231 Kantai Collection: KanColle Vol.2 Limited Edition
*8. *1,929 *1,929 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei "Yokohama Souran-hen" Vol.3 Limited Edition
*9. *1,891 *1,891 Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.4 Limited Edition
10. *1,869 *1,869 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 2nd Season Vol.1 Limited Editoin
11. *1,723 *1,723 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Vol.1 Limited Edition
12. *1,383 73,299 Stand By Me Doraemon Limited Edition
13. *1,193 *1,193 Durarara!!x2 Shou Vol.3 Limited Edition
14. *1,177 *1,177 Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso Vol.3 Limited Edition
15. *1,138 *1,138 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (TV) Vol.2 Limited Edition
16. **,959 **,959 Gugure! Kokkuri-san Vol.5
17. **,939 **,939 Dog Days'' Vol.2 Limited Edition
18. **,922 **,922 Shinmai Maou no Testament Vol.2 Limited Edition
19. **,817 19,974 Omoide no Marnie
20. **,691 **,691 Gundam: G no Reconguista Vol.5
21. **,640 **,640 Tokyo Ghoul√A Vol.2
22. **,617 **,617 Aldnoah.Zero Vol.7 Limited Edition
23. **,604 **,604 Naruto: Shippuuden DVD-BOX "Naruto: The Brave Stories" Vol.2 Limited Edition (eps.253-291)
24. **,598 *3,845 Yowamushi Pedal: Grande Road Vol.4
25. **,533 **,533 Trinity Seven Vol.5
26. **,486 **,486 Shirobako Vol.5 Limited Edition
27. **,478 **,478 Girlfriend (Kari) Vol.4
28. **,472 **,472 Ketsuekigata-kun 1st+2nd Season Complete Disc
29. **,459 **,459 Madan no Ou to Vanadis Vol.5
(cut-off 459)


CD Single
*2. 150,417 150,417 Kekkai Sensen OP "Hello,world!" by Bump of Chicken (incl. in "Hello,world! / Colony")
*4. *39,623 *39,623 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha ViVid OP "Angel Blossom" by Nana Mizuki
*5. *32,652 *32,652 "Mi wa μ’sic no Mi" by μ’s
*6. *27,114 *27,114 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Animation Project 07 "Dekitate Evo! Revo! Generation!" by new generation [Uzuki Shimamura (CV: Ayaka Ohashi) x Rin Shibuya (CV: Ayaka Fukuhara) x Mio Honda (CV: Sayuri Hara)]
*9. *19,314 *19,314 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions Cross Unit Idol Song Otoya Ittoki / Natsuki Shinomiya (EMOTIONAL LIFE) by Otoya Ittoki (CV: Takuma Terashima) / Natsuki Shinomiya (CV: Kishou Taniyama)
13. *10,110 *10,110 Arslan Senki (TV) ED "Lapis Lazuli" by Eir Aoi
15. **7,800 **7,800 Duel Masters VSR ED "Kimi ga Kureta KISEKI" by Pile
16. **5,748 *25,619 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Animation Project 06 "ΦωΦver!!" by * (Asterisk) [Miku Maekawa (CV: Natsumi Takamori) x Riina Tada (CV: Ruriko Aoki)]
17. **5,554 *30,436 Detective Conan Movie 19: The Hellfire Sunflowers ED "Oh! Rival" by Porno Graffitti
18. **5,291 **5,291 Kyoukai no Kanata Movie: I'll Be Here - Mirai-hen ED "Aitakatta Sora" by Minori Chihara
20. **4,919 *33,733 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions OP "Shine" by Mamoru Miyano
22. **4,563 **4,563 Show by Rock!! OP "Seishun wa Non-Stop!" by Plasmagica (Eri Inagawa, Sumire Uesaka, Manami Numakura, Ayane Sakura)
24. **4,122 *28,857 Crayon Shin-chan Movie 23: Ora no Hikkoshi Monogatari - Saboten Daisuugeki ED "OLA!!" by Yuzu
28. **3,844 *44,925 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions ED "Maji Love Revolutions" by ST☆RISH
34. **2,682 *24,402 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Animation Project 05 LET’s GO HAPPY!! by 凸-lation [Rika Jougasaki (CV: Nozomi Yamamoto) x Kirari Moroboshi (CV: Rei Matsuzaki) x Miria Akagi (CV: Tomoyo Kurosawa)]
35. **2,503 **2,503 Hibike! Euphonium OP "DREAM SOLISTER" by TRUE
44. **1,964 *26,354 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Animation Project 04 Happy×2 Days by CANDY ISLAND [Anzu Futaba (CV: Hiromi Igarashi) x Kanako Mimura (CV: Yuka Ootsubo) x Chieri Ogata (CV: Naomi Oozora)]
48. **1,698 **1,698 Etotama OP "Retry☆Rendezvous" by Nya~tan (CV: Rie Murakawa)
49. **1,591 **1,591 Etotama ED "blue moment" by Sol=Lull BOB
51. **1,471 *31,288 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Animation Project 03 -LEGNE- Adanasu Tsurugi Hikari no Senritsu by Rosenburg Engel [Ranko Kanzaki (CV: Maaya Uchida)]
56. **1,296 *29,883 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Animation Project 02 Memories by LOVE LAIKA [Minami Nitta (CV: Aya Suzaki) x Anastasia (CV: Sumire Uesaka)]
57. **1,253 *15,967 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha ViVid ED "Pleasure treasure" by Yukari Tamura (incl. in "Sukidatte Ienakute")
61. **1,183 **1,183 Mikagura Gakuen Kumikyoku OP "Houkago Kakumei" by Houkago Rakuen-bu [Eruna Ichimiya (Juri Kimura), Seisa Mikagura (Saori Oonishi), Otone Fujishiro (Ari Ozawa)]
68. **1,012 **1,012 Sengoku Musou Character Song Sono San: Nobuyuki Sanada (Omoi Uta) by Nobuyuki Sanada (CV: Daisuke Ono)
72. ***,959 ***,959 Tesagure! Bukatsumono Spin-off Purupurun Sharumu to Asobou OP/ED "Yappari Stand Up!!!!! / Shikisai crossroad" by Tesapurun♪
95. ***,662 ***,662 Amagi Brilliant Park Character Song "Shine" by Muse (CV: Yuuka Aizawa) from BRILLIANT4
85. ***,728 *62,797 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Animation Project 01 "Star!!" by Cinderella Project
90. ***,691 **4,312 Prince of Tennis Character Song "Empty Sky" by Kuranosuke Shiraishi (CV: Yoshimasa Hosoya)
96. ***,641 ***,641 Amagi Brilliant Park Character Song "Aikotoba wa Miracle!" by Seiya Kanie (CV: Kouki Uchiyama) x Isuzu Sento (CV: Ai Kakuma)
(cut-off 641)


CD Album
*4. 21,485 *21,485 The iDOLM@STER Master Artist 3 02 Hibiki Ganaha (CV: Manami Numakura)
*5. 21,088 *21,088 The iDOLM@STER Master Artist 3 01 Haruka Amami (CV: Eriko Nakamura)
*6. 21,061 *21,061 The iDOLM@STER Master Artist 3 03 Makoto Kikuchi (CV: Hiromi Hirata)
13. *8,609 **8,609 Maaya Sakamoto 20th Anniversary Tribute Album "REQUEST" by Various Artists
15. *6,525 *38,062 ClariS "ClariS ~SINGLE BEST 1st~"
19. *4,056 *15,143 "noitaminA FAN BEST" by Various Artists
20. *4,001 *62,194 miwa "ONENESS" (incl. Doraemon: Nobita's Space Heroes ED "360°")
25. *3,023 **3,023 Hanayamata Best Album "Hanaotome" by Team "Hanayamata"
32. *2,148 451,026 Sekai no Owari "Tree" (incl. Crayon Shin-chan Movie 21: Bakauma! B-Kyuu Gourmet Survival Battle!! ED "RPG")
52. *1,528 **1,528 smileY inc. "smile basket" (incl. Hanayamata ED "Hanayuki")
74. *1,001 *20,952 Suzuko Mimori "Fantasic Funfair"
88. **,903 116,504 Love Live! "μ's Best Album Best Live! collection" by μ's
(cut-off 903)

Source: Oricon Youtaiju

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Bibi_Punk said:
I never got the impression of any bad blood between iDOLM@STER and Love Live! fans. Seriously. How did this end up taking most of the thread?


"If you like LL then you must hate im@s, vv."

Sadly, it's a hit in some part of internet community and apparently a trend here in Indonesia. They might confuse dem franchise with soccer clubs.
Don't mind their brains, they don't have any.

May 3, 2015 9:22 AM by Latreia

Ejc, for you as a fan of the game, as it should be the anime script? Would I like a more constructive opinion, for what I have read in several places are just simple criticism without a proposed solution (that is, people point "mistakes" but show no possible "solutions"). If you can briefly describe some ideas, I thank you.

Apr 30, 2015 10:24 PM by MMMacross

MMMacross said:
scytheavatar said:
Honestly, after the sheer amount of hate Diomedea received from the otakus over the Kancolle anime I am not sure if anyone will be willing to do more Kancolle stuff in the future. And the sales numbers are probably a disappointment considering how big Kancolle is.


But a sequel has already been announced, and that was before the start of sales. Probably the decision was made based on the "potential" sales.


Potential sales precisely. People were predicting 30~50K average for KanColle well before the anime aired but rightfully cited the teitoku (admiral) as the major weak spot for sales. Depending on how Diomedea portrayed the teitoku (even if we never even saw him), will determine just how high the anime sold, and i'm sure everyone has seen what happened. This is why the game and light novel fans are so displeased with the anime, and do not want a sequel unless the staff changes to a more competent one.

EDIT: I did not mention what was so bad about the portrayal of the teitoku, but episode 3 is one of the major turn offs for fans, and its ranking at Amazon never really recovered after that... Episode 2 was obviously geared towards the fans of the franchise, but then it went AWOL from episode 3 onwards.

Apr 30, 2015 4:18 PM by Ejc

Happy for Your Lie In April, It deserves it

Apr 30, 2015 1:55 PM by lllllllll

Bibi_Punk said:
I never got the impression of any bad blood between iDOLM@STER and Love Live! fans. Seriously. How did this end up taking most of the thread?


Some people take things a little too seriously is all. In this case it was more something like a feud between Kantai Collection and Idolmaster fans on 2ch over which series would sell better with the odd comparison to Love Live on the side. Most of the aggression seemed to be coming overwhelmingly from the Idolmaster side of things for some reason though whereas Kantai Collection fans as is well known by now didn't really like the anime much (it's kind of like the Kagerou Project situation where you had a massive fanbase and dud of an anime) so you probably just don't see as many people caring. As for Love Live, again I just don't really see the same kind of aggression coming from them and they largely just don't seem to care and possibly aren't even away of all the pretty much constant taunting and bitterness because they're too absorbed in their hobby.

Just really really silly stuff, but I'm not just making it up. It's more a Japan thing than anything else really as I just don't think Western fans are that passionate about either of these franchises either way and in numbers enough to matter or make for the same kind of effect in Western communities.

rederoin said:
Bibi_Punk said:
I never got the impression of any bad blood between iDOLM@STER and Love Live! fans. Seriously. How did this end up taking most of the thread?

Its mostly just K_S who is up to his usual antics.


Sorry but no actually. If you want to just bitterly hate me and think everything I say is a lie than fine, but I'm not just making shit up here.

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-31679.html

This is just a small sample of it in the comments section of this blog and that's not even 2ch where there have been threads upon threads of this stuff. Every so often you hear news of fans of one or the other trying to start fights at concerts too.

Anyway next time at least bloody well look first before just deciding I'm making shit up as a result of "antics".

edit: Okay looking at the comments today looks like some of the Love Live fans are starting to punch back with some stuff, but that just goes to show you all the more that it's legit feuding in general.

Apr 30, 2015 12:14 PM by PeacingOut

scytheavatar said:

Honestly, after the sheer amount of hate Diomedea received from the otakus over the Kancolle anime I am not sure if anyone will be willing to do more Kancolle stuff in the future. And the sales numbers are probably a disappointment considering how big Kancolle is.

Oh I wasn't aware of that since I never followed Kancolle nor about its reception by the fans, so I just judged by the sales alone. Maybe they can learn from Kancolle. Then again, I don't really care whether or not Touken Ranbu gets an adaptation, just wondering if it might happen :P

Apr 30, 2015 12:07 PM by tingy

Bibi_Punk said:
I never got the impression of any bad blood between iDOLM@STER and Love Live! fans. Seriously. How did this end up taking most of the thread?

Its mostly just K_S who is up to his usual antics.

Apr 30, 2015 11:31 AM by rederoin

I never got the impression of any bad blood between iDOLM@STER and Love Live! fans. Seriously. How did this end up taking most of the thread?

Apr 30, 2015 10:42 AM by PuelaInquisition

Shirobakooo niceee

Tokyo Ghoul..xD

Apr 30, 2015 9:39 AM by Orionite_

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Otabana said:


Great news. Best-selling volume this year. Awesome.


Ummm.....Gundam The Origin? It is in this very article.


Best-selling volume for an anime TV series of course.

Apr 30, 2015 9:37 AM by Otabana

Otabana said:
Kuruba said:
Idolmaster CG G4U sales: 24,341

+ 13,500 BD/DVD= 37,841 for Volume1.

Better than I hoped.


Great news. Best-selling volume this year. Awesome.


Ummm.....Gundam The Origin? It is in this very article.

Apr 30, 2015 9:27 AM by PeacingOut

Hello EJC and Kaioshin_Sama,

Thank you for explanations about these issues involving franchises "Love Live!" and "The IDOLM@STER". It really is very interesting.

Particularly speaking, I like also the two, and I'm glad to hear that both follow well in virtually all entertainment sectors, and most likely will have a long life. But it is sad to know that there are fans who are fighting among themselves to see which titles are the best. And as you well show these fans do not even have good arguments to debate (they distort reality).

Kaioshin_Sama said:
edit: Anyway a more logical poster did make this post which I've tried to translate:

Love Live Phase 2 Volume 1's first week sales
¥ 4,860 × 82,119 units = ¥ 399,098,340
Deremasu Vol 1
DVD ¥ 6,264 × 1,723 units = ¥ 10,792,872
BD ¥ 7,344 × 11,807 units = ¥ 86,710,608
G4U ¥ 9,698 × 24,341 units = ¥ 236,059,018
combined ¥ 333,562,498


And those numbers represent only the total volume of a collection (gross profit). Since no one knows the values of the costs involved in the whole process, you can not know which one provided a higher net income.

scytheavatar said:
Honestly, after the sheer amount of hate Diomedea received from the otakus over the Kancolle anime I am not sure if anyone will be willing to do more Kancolle stuff in the future. And the sales numbers are probably a disappointment considering how big Kancolle is.


But a sequel has already been announced, and that was before the start of sales. Probably the decision was made based on the "potential" sales.

Ejc said:
Just means the KanColle PS Vita game, which is a lot more important to the fans than the terrible anime adaptation (fans didn't even want a sequel for it, and would rather have different staff if they insist on continuing with this trainwreck), ....


I do not know the game (only knew the illustrations), so regardless, I liked the anime. From my point of view, this season has only served to show some character to the general public as well as developing some of the girls to present the basics of the plot. Whereas there were only 12 episodes, I think the anime well fulfilled its role.

Another thing I've seen a lot of people complaining was in the choice of Fubuki as a protagonist. But if you think about it, many anime feature as the main protagonist a character like "average down", which over time will improve and developing (learning stories and overcoming).

Hence, one can have the hope that the second season has a greater focus on the plot, since most of the characters was properly carried out, unless of course that producers introduce more resolve about 20 new kanmusus (then there would not be time to the story develop).

I also read many comments from people who said that producers should have chosen as protagonists the strongest kanmusus the game (the older and more experienced), and that the admiral should be something like "the master of strategies." But if so, the series would basically action-strategy (I say this because I saw some people complaining about the moments of slice of life in the series), and the Abyssal most likely would be totally defeated in 12 episodes without much gap to produce a sequel .

In this situation the anime would be geared almost exclusively to fans of the game. But the main aim of any producer would not be to present your product to the largest possible number of people, and make more people consume? If there was an increase in sales of games, then the anime fulfilled one of its goals. Moreover, they may from anime creating and selling a wide variety of new products. By the way, they are already doing this.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Plus if people are going to go that route than they might as well just acknowledge Macross Frontier Itsuwa no Utahime as the best selling Late Night TV to anime movie over Madoka Rebellion since it sold like 230,000 units with the Last Frontier game tie in.


These are just 230,000 units of the game? Or have you added to the anime sales figures?


Thank you very much for your attention and until next time.

Apr 30, 2015 9:26 AM by MMMacross

Otabana said:
Kuruba said:
Idolmaster CG G4U sales: 24,341

+ 13,500 BD/DVD= 37,841 for Volume1.

Better than I hoped.


Great news. Best-selling volume this year. Awesome.

Don't get your hopes up, Uta-pri S3 v1 is still coming out

Apr 30, 2015 6:06 AM by rederoin

tingy said:
mayukachan said:
Kancolle sales are going high. Does this mean Touken Ranbu can get an adaptation too? ;A;

I can see it happening, maybe. I'm sure a lot of fans would like to see jiji get animated (as well as others of course).


Honestly, after the sheer amount of hate Diomedea received from the otakus over the Kancolle anime I am not sure if anyone will be willing to do more Kancolle stuff in the future. And the sales numbers are probably a disappointment considering how big Kancolle is.

Apr 30, 2015 2:06 AM by scytheavatar

Kuruba said:
Idolmaster CG G4U sales: 24,341

+ 13,500 BD/DVD= 37,841 for Volume1.

Better than I hoped.


Great news. Best-selling volume this year. Awesome.

Apr 30, 2015 1:57 AM by Otabana

tingy said:
mayukachan said:
Kancolle sales are going high. Does this mean Touken Ranbu can get an adaptation too? ;A;

I can see it happening, maybe. I'm sure a lot of fans would like to see jiji get animated (as well as others of course).

MAGiC_DREAMBOX said:


Whoa that is a lot more than I would have expected, didn't know they were that popular. thought the song was pretty forgettable personally.

They are very popular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_of_Chicken#Discography
Pretty much ALL of their singles since 2001 have charted in the top 3 for the weekly Oricon, not to mention, their albums as well.

But anyways, great job Bump of Chicken, though it's to be expected. Not only anime fans are buying the single. It's been on replay for the last week, I can't stop listening to it. I really like Colony too, it's a really nice and kind of relaxing ballad.


It would have required minimal advertisement, or the song to be really bad to sell anything less than what was expected, with them being such a mainstream artist. Nearly all their recent singles sold close to 100K.

【BUMP OF CHICKEN】
    友達の唄  ゼロ   グッドラック  firefly   Hello
――――――――――――――――――――――――――
月   ***,***  ***,***  ***,***  ***,***  ***,***
火   *27,734  *69,167  *61,549  *29,774  *78,558
水   *20,823  *33,661  *35,708  *19,491  *23,490
木   *10,322  *19,537  *16,218  **8,987  *20,472
金   **8,226  *14,414  *11,350  **8,618  **9,849
土   **7,674  *12,201  *10,423  **6,006  **9,074
日   **6,065  *10,016  **9,243  **4,741  **7,894
――――――――――――――――――――――――――
計   *80,844  158,996  144,491  *77,617  149,337
週   *82,043  163,381  148,753  *78,936  150,717
累   121,102  257,006  195,714  108,296  150,717

Apr 30, 2015 1:07 AM by Ejc

mayukachan said:
Kancolle sales are going high. Does this mean Touken Ranbu can get an adaptation too? ;A;

I can see it happening, maybe. I'm sure a lot of fans would like to see jiji get animated (as well as others of course).

MAGiC_DREAMBOX said:

*2. 150,417 150,417 Kekkai Sensen OP "Hello,world!" by Bump of Chicken (incl. in "Hello,world! / Colony")

Whoa that is a lot more than I would have expected, didn't know they were that popular. thought the song was pretty forgettable personally.

They are very popular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_of_Chicken#Discography
Pretty much ALL of their singles since 2001 have charted in the top 3 for the weekly Oricon, not to mention, their albums as well.

But anyways, great job Bump of Chicken, though it's to be expected. Not only anime fans are buying the single. It's been on replay for the last week, I can't stop listening to it. I really like Colony too, it's a really nice and kind of relaxing ballad.

Apr 30, 2015 12:02 AM by tingy

Ejc said:
@Kaioshin_Sama

I remember reading one Idolmaster fan saying that the total 1st week sales of the most recent batch of 5 Cinderella Master CDs in February (which were 700 yen each), beat the 1st week sales of BiBi (which was 1296 yen). The problem is that it is flawed, because it is most likely the average number for the CDs is the actual number of people who bought all the singles.

Doing a comparison here with the 1st weeks...
5x700 yen = 3,500 yen @ 13,327.2 average = 46,645,200 yen
3x1296 yen = 3,888 yen @ 45,647.3 average (includes lily white and Printemps too) = 177,476,702 yen

Clearly they were not using logic and just like to see a higher number for its total sales.

17K*5 = 85K > 58,280 by BiBi (This is what I saw, since they were also overestimating how much they would actually sell before we knew its actual sale).


So hold on wait, you're saying that 5 CD's combined managed to the total sales of one CD single? That makes even less logical sense than the thing about the anime? If you have to be adding up all these different thing to achieve some lump sum that is greater than one single entity than that's not really any sort of achievement. Comparisons should only be made straight up. Averages to averages, first volumes to first volumes of equivalent seasons, CD single to CD single (they're called singles for a reason), album to album etc. The only Cinderella Girls CD I'm aware of that comes even close to approaching what you usually see out of a Love Live CD was the one that included the OP and ED and an event ticket for a promotion that happened like 2 days after the CD went on sale and even then it's not making Gold any time like that ticketless BiBi CD you mentioned.

I don't know why they don't just admit that Love Live is more popular right now, but that IM@S is still obviously pretty popular too. Like every reasonable head to head comparison you make aside from video games (the Love Live PS Vita game actually did sell less than the recent iDOLM@STER Shiny Festa though I also hear that Love Live game was really bad, had poor graphics for a Vita title and was unacceptably lacking in content so that's hardly surprising) it just comes up short even with what has to be record setting numbers of event tickets (I've never heard of CD's that contain event tickets before but 2 of the Cinderella Girls ones have had them with the one that just recently went on sale being the second) and special packaging like game tie-ins which I've also only seen one anime ever do before in Macross Frontier, also courtest of Bandai Namco.

Really I've never seen any anime adaptation period that uses more incentives and extras courtesy its original creator (Bamco is either really dedicated to the product or really desperate to prop it up) to boost it's number than The iDOLM@STER franchise where in the most extreme example the release for the movie was so bloated with extra stuff that the box ended up weighing something like 7 lbs. It's almost unfit for comparison to most anime in general as a result of the package deals it uses.

Apr 29, 2015 9:15 PM by PeacingOut

@Kaioshin_Sama

I remember reading one Idolmaster fan saying that the total 1st week sales of the most recent batch of 5 Cinderella Master CDs in February (which were 700 yen each), beat the 1st week sales of BiBi (which was 1296 yen). The problem is that it is flawed, because it is most likely the average number for the CDs is the actual number of people who bought all the singles.

Doing a comparison here with the 1st weeks...
5x700 yen = 3,500 yen @ 13,327.2 average = 46,645,200 yen
3x1296 yen = 3,888 yen @ 45,647.3 average (includes lily white and Printemps too) = 177,476,702 yen

Clearly they were not using logic and just like to see a higher number for its total sales.

17K*5 = 85K > 58,280 by BiBi (This is what I saw, since they were also overestimating how much they would actually sell before we knew its actual sale).

Apr 29, 2015 8:36 PM by Ejc

Ejc said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


Japan is absolutely losing it's mind over this. It's pretty hilarious. Never seen people so excited to see the idol equivalent of bloated Pokemon Snap package sell 25K. Like this was apparently really important to a lot of people. There's an epic amount of taunting going on toward the Kancolle fanbase (which is funny because I'm pretty sure they didn't like the anime anyway) and amusingly towards the Love Live fanbase because it did a little better than the first season (which of course is the one they're comparing it too because spin I guess) which if I recall never had two event tickets and came with a game, but whatever makes people happy I guess. Never mind it should be the second season that's the comparison, but considering that would result in it being compared to a much higher number.....

I've seen some people take sales numbers really personal before but Cinderella Girls really has to take the absolute cake as far as Japan goes. Never seen anything like it.


Just means the KanColle PS Vita game, which is a lot more important to the fans than the terrible anime adaptation (fans didn't even want a sequel for it, and would rather have different staff if they insist on continuing with this trainwreck), is going to sell a ton since it is so far above the Cinderella Girls G4U games on the 2015 Amazon Bestselling Games (hint, the G4U game is at #99, while 2/5 of the KanColle PS Vita games are at #57 and #58). It is also selling well at other online retailers too, so it isn't only restricted to Amazon. The only thing the anime was useful for, was to bring in more players to the online browser game and to consider buying the PS Vita game over the anime.

I sure hope they are not comparing it to the first anime season... Cinderella Girls probably already has some of the original Idolmaster fanbase, so it is only fair to compare it to the second anime season of LL. Not that Cinderella Girls is going to sell anywhere near 64.5K average (or 52~53K average if you ignore the Vol.1 and Vol.7 event ticket volumes from the calculation).

The LL first season only had an event ticket on Vol.7, but the concert was held at a smaller capacity of 17K seats compared to the 30~37K of now. The fanbase was a lot smaller, as the mobile game only started in April 2013 and the anime aired from January to March 2013. The mobile serial codes would have not accounted for much anyway. It is not comparable to the G4U game, since the serial codes are basically for collectors only (it doesn't offer significant benefit in game). Sure, if LL took the same route as what Idolmaster did, and bundle the PS Vita games on a separate BD and also added a 2nd event ticket, then we sure wouldn't be looking at such a lowish 82K+ 1st week for Vol.1 (and 116.9K+ cumulative for Vol.1)...


No they are comparing it to the first season almost certainly because they need to be able to spin it so that the numbers look better which I don't get cause they're already pretty good. I don't see the point in comparing the very first volume of a show in it's inaugural season and public exposure with no event ticket and just a single BD version with an adaptation of a popular franchise in it's second iteration that has had a decade to build up it's fanbase, that has two event tickets, 2 BD versions, 2 DVD versions and 2 Game tie-in versions and did like maybe 5,000 units better once all of those factors are added in despite having every advantage in the world, but I can realize that's it's just fans looking for any which way to spin it into some sort of historic triumph (at least in their eyes) for their favorite franchise. They take this sales stuff VERY seriously over there after all, especially this time around where there was an extremely bitter and petty feud between the Kancolle and CG fandoms as to which would end up having the higher selling first volume.

Yeah though I couldn't believe that they did that either. It's like wow if you have to go to that level to make the claim that CG is a bigger disc seller than Love Live atm than I don't even know what to say. It's not even a matter of having a favorite, it's just plain fact. Plus if people are going to go that route than they might as well just acknowledge Macross Frontier Itsuwa no Utahime as the best selling Late Night TV to anime movie over Madoka Rebellion since it sold like 230,000 units with the Last Frontier game tie in. This is in fact something that the more rational posters over there did in fact point out. Hell at this rate I wouldn't have been surprised if had it done a little lower the the first volume of Love Live Season 1 before it really started to take off (which if you go by Famitsu numbers it did) that people would have just compared it to whatever the lowest selling Love Live volume was and gone "Deremasu>LL Great Victory wwwwwwwwww" cause it clearly means that much to them.

If anything it just makes the fanbase look rather insecure and I would have to hope it's just a small handful of people cause otherwise yikes.

edit: Anyway a more logical poster did make this post which I've tried to translate:

Love Live Phase 2 Volume 1's first week sales
¥ 4,860 × 82,119 units = ¥ 399,098,340
Deremasu Vol 1
DVD ¥ 6,264 × 1,723 units = ¥ 10,792,872
BD ¥ 7,344 × 11,807 units = ¥ 86,710,608
G4U ¥ 9,698 × 24,341 units = ¥ 236,059,018
combined ¥ 333,562,498

Can't argue with that and I noticed nobody tried to really, they just kept going on repeating the same old "29,194 Love Live! 37,871 Idolmaster Cinderella Girls Park live defeat" to which some posters countered with repetitions of "Mass pig can not be recognized the magnitude of the numbers ponds 29,194 Love Live! 28,485 Idol Master 82,119 Love Live! 2nd Season 37,871 Idolmaster Cinderella Girls"

I think if there's any logic to be had in it at all that they think that they need to compare the first season of Love Live to the first half of CG, but the thing is CG isn't a genuine 2 season show, it's a split cour because of scheduling conflicts so not the same thing. As some tried to point out the more logical comparison would be Idolmaster 2011 to Love Live Season 1, but even then the comparison isn't really fair cause you're talking about a franchise with a massive pre installed fanbase virtually guaranteed a measure of success and a show that at the time producers wasn't even sure was going to be a success that one it's fanbase in a year while the others had had it's for a decade.

I don't know, not worth thinking about this hard probably. Fans say crazy things and make ridiculous comparisons, news at 11.

ichii_1 said:
OM MY GOD
CROSS ANGE SEASON 2 IS POSSIBLE!!!

I remember Sunrise doing a company expansion or something to allow for more projects :O
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1378569


Errr no. They underwent a corporate restructuring and rebranding where their daytime kids brands are being produced under the label Bandai Namco Pictures, but Sunrise has always been a massive anime studio if not the biggest in Japan. If anything with Nerima Studios closing down they've actually downsized a little bit recently. And then there were 12 basically. Yeah they have 12 sub studios each with their own dedicated producers. Like I said.....big.

Apr 29, 2015 7:17 PM by PeacingOut