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Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for April 13th - 19th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
*1. 6,422 *6,422 Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru Vol.5
*2. 3,922 *3,922 Psycho-Pass 2 Vol.5
*3. 3,386 *3,386 Yowamushi Pedal: Grande Road Vol.4
*4. 2,397 *2,397 Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! Vol.2
*5. 1,183 *1,183 Akame ga Kill! Vol.7
*6. 1,139 *1,139 Rolling☆Girls Vol.2
*7. 1,136 *1,136 Houkago no Pleiades Limited Edition
*8. *,559 *6,377 Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus Vol.3
*9. *,494 **,494 Etotama Vol.1
10. *,418 12,543 Shirobako Vol.4 Limited Edition
11. *,373 36,467 Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) Blu-ray BOX Vol.1 Limited Edition
12. *,355 12,152 Omoide no Marnie
13. *,350 **,350 Denki-gai no Honya-san Vol.5
14. *,339 *6,353 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Blu-ray BOX Limited Edition
15. *,329 **,329 Garo: Honoo no Kokuin Vol.3
16. *,275 23,501 Persona 3 the Movie 2: Midsummer Knight's Dream Limited Edition
(cut-off 275)


DVD
*1. 3,553 *3,553 Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! Vol.2
*2. 3,247 *3,247 Yowamushi Pedal: Grande Road Vol.4
*3. 1,303 71,916 Stand By Me Doraemon Limited Edition
*4. *,924 **,924 Psycho-Pass 2 Vol.5
*5. *,866 19,157 Omoide no Marnie
*6. *,602 15,669 Youkai Watch DVD-BOX Vol.2
*7. *,528 31,051 Tonari no Totoro
*8. *,461 **,461 Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru Vol.5
*9. *,368 **,368 Cardfight!! Vanguard: Legion Mate-hen Vol.8
10. *,333 **,333 Anime de Wakaru Shinryounaika Vol.1 "Muchimuchi Kikkou-hen"
11. *,321 15,749 Majo no Takkyuubin
12. *,312 **,312 Akame ga Kill! Vol.7
13. *,290 *4,669 Gudetama Anime
14. *,242 23,738 Kaguya-hime no Monogatari
15. *,199 **,199 Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V Vol.10
16. *,194 *9,232 Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa
17. *,192 14,264 Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi
18. *,185 *4,252 Kamiusagi Rope: Warau Asa ni wa Fuku Kitaru tte Maji ssuka!? Vol.7
19. *,183 *4,312 Kamiusagi Rope: Warau Asa ni wa Fuku Kitaru tte Maji ssuka!? Vol.6
20. *,178 *2,727 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (TV) Vol.1 Limited Edition
21. *,169 *7,198 Gake no Ue no Ponyo
(cut-off 169)


CD Single
*3. 28,814 28,814 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions OP "Shine" by Mamoru Miyano
*5. 24,882 24,882 Detective Conan Movie 19: The Hellfire Sunflowers ED "Oh! Rival" by Porno Graffitti
*6. 24,735 24,735 Crayon Shin-chan Movie 23: Ora no Hikkoshi Monogatari - Saboten Daisuugeki ED "OLA!!" by Yuzu
*7. 19,871 19,871 The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Animation Project 06 "ΦωΦver!!" by * (Asterisk) [Miku Maekawa (CV: Natsumi Takamori) x Riina Tada (CV: Ruriko Aoki)]
12. *8,676 41,081 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions ED "Maji Love Revolutions" by ST☆RISH
19. *3,621 *3,621 Prince of Tennis Character Song "Empty Sky" by Kuranosuke Shiraishi (CV: Yoshimasa Hosoya)
20. *3,568 21,720 The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Animation Project 05 LET’s GO HAPPY!! by 凸-lation [Rika Jougasaki (CV: Nozomi Yamamoto) x Kirari Moroboshi (CV: Rei Matsuzaki) x Miria Akagi (CV: Tomoyo Kurosawa)]
26. *2,071 24,390 The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Animation Project 04 Happyx2 Days by CANDY ISLAND [Anzu Futaba (CV: Hiromi Igarashi) x Kanako Mimura (CV: Yuka Ootsubo) x Chieri Ogata (CV: Naomi Oozora)]
28. *1,699 *6,897 Pankis! 2-jigen ED "Coffee ga Nomemasen" by M!LK
34. *1,419 29,817 The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Animation Project 03 -LEGNE- Adanasu Tsurugi Hikari no Senritsu by Rosenburg Engel [Ranko Kanzaki (CV: Maaya Uchida)]
42. *1,193 28,587 The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Animation Project 02 Memories by LOVE LAIKA [Minami Nitta (CV: Aya Suzaki) x Anastasia (CV: Sumire Uesaka)]
48. **,920 14,714 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha ViVid ED "Pleasure treasure" by Yukari Tamura (incl. in "Sukidatte Ienakute")
49. **,912 **,912 High School DxD BorN OP "BLESS YoUr NAME" by ChouCho
53. **,880 *4,418 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season OP "ZERO" by Kensho Ono
67. **,670 62,069 The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Animation Project 01 "Star!!" by Cinderella Project
72. **,623 53,592 Kantai Collection: KanColle ED "Fubuki" by Shiena Nishizawa
73. **,608 29,568 Doraemon: Nobita's Space Heroes ED "360°" by miwa
77. **,584 56,558 Kantai Collection: KanColle OP "Mi-iro" by AKINO from bless4
89. **,430 *1,925 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season ED "Ambivalence" by SCREEN mode
90. **,425 *9,415 Anime de Wakaru Shinryounaika ED "Karappo Capsule" by Maaya Uchida
(cut-off 425)


CD Album
*4. 31,537 *31,537 ClariS "ClariS ~SINGLE BEST 1st~"
*6. 11,087 *11,087 "noitaminA FAN BEST" by Various Artists
*7. *7,938 *58,193 miwa "ONENESS" (incl. Doraemon: Nobita's Space Heroes ED "360°")
20. *2,618 448,878 Sekai no Owari "Tree" (incl. Crayon Shin-chan Movie 21: Bakauma! B-Kyuu Gourmet Survival Battle!! ED "RPG")
28. *1,979 **1,979 Gundam: G no Reconguista OST by Yugo Kanno
31. *1,900 *19,951 Suzuko Mimori "Fantasic Funfair"
32. *1,883 **1,883 Tantei Kageki Milky Holmes TD Insert Songs Album "Treasure Disc" by Milky Holmes
40. *1,356 **6,573 Nisekoi BEST SONGS by Various Artists
57. **,944 *11,681 "J-Anisong Kamikyoku Matsuri ~Happiness~" by DJ Katsu
67. **,837 **7,115 "J-Anisong Kamikyoku Matsuri ~Matome~" by DJ Katsu
75. **,771 *21,514 Kantai Collection: KanColle Character Song "KanMusu no Uta" Vol.1 by Various Artists
82. **,716 ***,716 Yun*chi "Ani*Yun ~anime song cover~"
92. **,662 115,601 Love Live! "μ's Best Album Best Live! collection" by μ's
93. **,658 *15,678 OLDCODEX "pledge" (incl. Q Transformers: Kaette Kita Convoy no Nazo OP "physical")
(cut-off 658)

Source: Oricon Youtaiju

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CD Single
*3. 28,814 28,814 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions OP "Shine" by Mamoru Miyano
*5. 24,882 24,882 Detective Conan Movie 19: The Hellfire Sunflowers ED "Oh! Rival" by Porno Graffitti
*6. 24,735 24,735 Crayon Shin-chan Movie 23: Ora no Hikkoshi Monogatari - Saboten Daisuugeki ED "OLA!!" by Yuzu
12. *8,676 41,081 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions ED "Maji Love Revolutions" by ST☆RISH
28. *1,699 *6,897 Pankis! 2-jigen ED "Coffee ga Nomemasen" by M!LK
53. **,880 *4,418 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season OP "ZERO" by Kensho Ono
72. **,623 53,592 Kantai Collection: KanColle ED "Fubuki" by Shiena Nishizawa
89. **,430 *1,925 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season ED "Ambivalence" by SCREEN mode

CD Album
*4. 31,537 *31,537 ClariS "ClariS ~SINGLE BEST 1st~"
*6. 11,087 *11,087 "noitaminA FAN BEST" by Various Artists
40. *1,356 **6,573 Nisekoi BEST SONGS by Various Artists
82. **,716 ***,716 Yun*chi "Ani*Yun ~anime song cover~"

Interesting to see Pankis 2-jigen ED back again. Both UtaPri CDs are doing well on first weeks (Now to wait Idol Songs series).
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*3. 3,386 *3,386 Yowamushi Pedal: Grande Road Vol.4
*4. 2,397 *2,397 Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! Vol.2

*1. 3,553 *3,553 Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! Vol.2
*2. 3,247 *3,247 Yowamushi Pedal: Grande Road Vol.4

*3. 28,814 28,814 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions OP "Shine" by Mamoru Miyano
*5. 24,882 24,882 Detective Conan Movie 19: The Hellfire Sunflowers ED "Oh! Rival" by Porno Graffitti
12. *8,676 41,081 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions ED "Maji Love Revolutions" by ST☆RISH
19. *3,621 *3,621 Prince of Tennis Character Song "Empty Sky" by Kuranosuke Shiraishi (CV: Yoshimasa Hosoya)


ooh lots of familiar faces :> good~
i'm glad binan is selling well as well as maji love revolutions cd

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Mm, not surprised by the music stuff listed this week. Wonder how many copies of Uta Prince CD singles will sell by end of this year.
 
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Mm, not surprised by the music stuff listed this week. Wonder how many copies of Uta Prince CD singles will sell by end of this year.


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*9. *,494 **,494 Etotama Vol.1

Damn that came out early, like super early, episode 3 hasn't aired yet! Wish it had done better nonetheless, hasn't really given time for potential buyers to decide whether to buy or not (like me). A great opening doesn't mean a great series as it could go downhill.

10. *,333 **,333 Anime de Wakaru Shinryounaika Vol.1 "Muchimuchi Kikkou-hen"

Deserves so much more sales, to be expected though, short shows rarely sell well. Don't really need to. Can't see it on CDJapan or AmiAmi unfortunately.

49. **,912 **,912 High School DxD BorN OP "BLESS YoUr NAME" by ChouCho

Oh so low, granetd it's the weakest of the DxD OPs but it's still good.
 
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Fujoshis strong in Binan.
 
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Tripple digits sales for Garo! Hype! Looking forward to the second season.
 
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Happy for binan
 
 
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*4. 2,397 *2,397 Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! Vol.2
*1. 3,553 *3,553 Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE! Vol.2


1st week sales for Boueibu Vol.2 is up 9.88% on Vol.1, and Vol.1 had an event ticket serial code bundled... Boueibu Vol.1 is almost at 8.5K (8,448) after 5 weeks as confirmed by the BD and DVD extended lists at Oricon.

1st weeks:
Vol.1: 5,415 (2,199BD+3,216DVD)
Vol.2: 5,950 (2,397BD+3,553DVD)

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*3. 28,814 28,814 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions OP "Shine" by Mamoru Miyano


1st week sales for UtaPri S3 OP is almost exactly the same as S2 OP.

1st weeks:
S1 OP: 8,999 (21,278 after 14 weeks)
S2 OP: 28,360 (39,116 after 8 weeks)
S3 OP: 28,814

UtaPri franchise sales (CD+DVD+BD+PSP Games): http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=768143

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31. *1,900 *19,951 Suzuko Mimori "Fantasic Funfair"


Mimorin's 2nd album almost at 20K after 2 weeks. Already above her previous album "好きっ" even after just the 1st week sales, which is great for her. Really promising stuff for the seiyuu of μ's (Pile, Emi, Yoshinon especially as well).

18,051 *19,951 **2 Fantasic Funfair (三森すずこ) 15/04/08
14,379 *17,295 **5 好きっ (三森すずこ) 14/04/02 [ダイヤのA ED]

Love Live! franchise sales (CD+DVD+BD+Books+Manga) including the seiyuu singles/albums: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1156141#msg30226161

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Fujoshis strong in Binan.


"Female otaku" is more appropriate to use, as not all are fujoshi.

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Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works doing pretty good job so far as last week

 
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Next week v1 releases.

16.5k Kuruko Basket S3
10.9k Idolmaster - CG(underestimated, does not include the G4U bundle)
*9.8k JoJo P3 - part 2
*2.1k Koufuku Grafiti
*1.5k Shounen Hollywood S2
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When's Akatsuki no Yona???
 
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I'm so happy for Boueibu and Yowapeda !!
 
 
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Kind of surprised by the BD list but maybe there just aren't any other good releases atm (not that they're bad shows but I wouldn't expect some of them to be that popular).
 
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When's Akatsuki no Yona???
In the trash.
 
 
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Barion-Zara said:
When's Akatsuki no Yona???
In the trash.

May 27
 
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When's Akatsuki no Yona???
In the trash.

 
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I'm glad to see Binan holding on. I hope that it can secure a 6k average, so then we'll probably see a second season like the director guy announced.

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Next week v1 releases.

16.5k Kuruko Basket S3


Really excited for KnB. I'm hoping this season sells just as well as the last one!
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When's Akatsuki no Yona???
In the trash.


How can ur taste be this shit <_<

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In the trash.

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Wait why did Etotama release so early? Ep 3 hasn't even aired yet so the show just pretty much suicided sales-wise.

How odd.
 
 
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49. **,912 **,912 High School DxD BorN OP "BLESS YoUr NAME" by ChouCho


What the hell? Are you sure there's no mistake here? Even if franchise popularity dropped it's to low
 
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This isn't the true season 3, it's like a detour.

Maji 3000% where you at?!

*3. 28,814 28,814 Uta no☆ Prince-sama♪Maji Love Revolutions OP "Shine" by Mamoru Miyano
 
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Wait why did Etotama release so early? Ep 3 hasn't even aired yet so the show just pretty much suicided sales-wise.

How odd.
It actually went on sale before episode 2 aired and the BD contains both episodes.
 
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Yvese said:
Wait why did Etotama release so early? Ep 3 hasn't even aired yet so the show just pretty much suicided sales-wise.

How odd.
It actually went on sale before episode 2 aired and the BD contains both episodes.


It was the worst idea too, it didn't sell well, so now I won't get a season 2.


 
 
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It actually went on sale before episode 2 aired and the BD contains both episodes.


It was the worst idea too, it didn't sell well, so now I won't get a season 2.
And nothing of value was lost.
 
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Next week v1 releases.

16.5k Kuruko Basket S3
10.9k Idolmaster - CG(underestimated, does not include the G4U bundle)
*9.8k JoJo P3 - part 2
*2.1k Koufuku Grafiti
*1.5k Shounen Hollywood S2


I feel like you can't realistically count a video game release with an anime tie-in against other anime releases without some sort of major asterisk. It's such a bigger market that it's not even a realistic comparison between an industry that regularly sells it's media in the 5-6 digit numbers against one that sells it's media typically in the 3-4 digit numbers. Plus when you have people purchasing for the software and with an event ticket no less...craziness. If other anime titles were in a position to do this (which I guess any of Bamco's titles are looking back on the Macross Frontier movie/game tie-in and the like) it'd change the landscape of the industry pretty much overnight.
 
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Paulo27 said:
In the trash.

May 27

Probably not going to have good sales. Maybe 2 or 3k at most. -__-
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
rederoin said:
Next week v1 releases.

16.5k Kuruko Basket S3
10.9k Idolmaster - CG(underestimated, does not include the G4U bundle)
*9.8k JoJo P3 - part 2
*2.1k Koufuku Grafiti
*1.5k Shounen Hollywood S2


I feel like you can't realistically count a video game release with an anime tie-in against other anime releases without some sort of major asterisk. It's such a bigger market that it's not even a realistic comparison between an industry that regularly sells it's media in the 5-6 digit numbers against one that sells it's media typically in the 3-4 digit numbers. Plus when you have people purchasing for the software and with an event ticket no less...craziness. If other anime titles were in a position to do this (which I guess any of Bamco's titles are looking back on the Macross Frontier movie/game tie-in and the like) it'd change the landscape of the industry pretty much overnight.
Do these type of games even sell that much anyway? I have seen screenshots and it's not like this up there quality wise.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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Next week v1 releases.

16.5k Kuruko Basket S3
10.9k Idolmaster - CG(underestimated, does not include the G4U bundle)
*9.8k JoJo P3 - part 2
*2.1k Koufuku Grafiti
*1.5k Shounen Hollywood S2


I feel like you can't realistically count a video game release with an anime tie-in against other anime releases without some sort of major asterisk. It's such a bigger market that it's not even a realistic comparison between an industry that regularly sells it's media in the 5-6 digit numbers against one that sells it's media typically in the 3-4 digit numbers. Plus when you have people purchasing for the software and with an event ticket no less...craziness. If other anime titles were in a position to do this (which I guess any of Bamco's titles are looking back on the Macross Frontier movie/game tie-in and the like) it'd change the landscape of the industry pretty much overnight.


Hardly anyone will buy it for the "game" (lets players photograph idols). People will buy it for the anime, G4U is just a bonus. When Vol.1 (Imas 2011) bundled with Idolmaster 2, sales have not been taken into account because people buy it really for the game.
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Paulo27 said:
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I feel like you can't realistically count a video game release with an anime tie-in against other anime releases without some sort of major asterisk. It's such a bigger market that it's not even a realistic comparison between an industry that regularly sells it's media in the 5-6 digit numbers against one that sells it's media typically in the 3-4 digit numbers. Plus when you have people purchasing for the software and with an event ticket no less...craziness. If other anime titles were in a position to do this (which I guess any of Bamco's titles are looking back on the Macross Frontier movie/game tie-in and the like) it'd change the landscape of the industry pretty much overnight.
Do these type of games even sell that much anyway? I have seen screenshots and it's not like this up there quality wise.


You'd be surprised, particularly when they have lots of extras. 30-50K is hardly out of the question here. A lot of the time it's not about the quality of the game but the character brand too, something that Bandai Namco Games has really ridden to the bank of late though they get a tremendous amount of negative feedback for DLC schemes and quality control among other things as well.

Let me put it this way though, I worked out the math and the Sword Art Online game tie in by them generated more revenue for Lost Song than the anime stands to make by the time all 9 of it's volumes are out over the course of the next few months. The difference between the game and anime media markets are that stark.

Here's the math which isn't going to be 100% accurate since it uses predictive estimates for the last few anime volumes:

Lost Song
139,298 (units) x 12,000 (yen) = 1,671,576,000 yen
55,090 (units) x 6,290 (yen) = 346,516,100 yen
Total=2,018,092,100 yen or 16,872,683 USD

Vs.

Season 2

15,000 (assumed average BD unit sales given the first 5 volumes) x 9 x 6,610 (yen) = 892,350,000 (yen)
3,000 (assumed DVD average sales given the first 4 volumes) x 9 x 4,980 = 134,460,000 (yen)
Total= 1,026,810,000 (yen) or 8,583,115 USD

That was for release week for the game too. It's well over 200,000 copies sold by now.

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Hardly anyone will buy it for the "game" (lets players photograph idols). People will buy it for the anime, G4U is just a bonus. When Vol.1 (Imas 2011) bundled with Idolmaster 2, sales have not been taken into account because people buy it really for the game.


That logic makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If that were the case the anime version would be the one predicted to sell better and we wouldn't even be having this conversation cause it wouldn't be a factor since the anime disc has all the extras that the game version does aside from the game itself. iDOLM@STER started as a game franchise and became popular that way in the first place, not as an anime though it certainly didn't hurt as is usually the case with multimedia brands. The bulk of it's revenue comes out of the video game portion of the brand as well. Otaku will do weird shit with their money as well with photography games like this being an example of that. If I'm not mistaken I believe the first animes G4U packages sold in the 30K range.

Sorry but if the package is listed as a game by every major retailer, is being sold by a video game publisher, and will be tracked sales wise by video game tracking charts as opposed to Oricon then no matter how you try to spin it and what you want to believe the game is the core product plain and simple end of story. It's just raw fact.
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Do these type of games even sell that much anyway? I have seen screenshots and it's not like this up there quality wise.


You'd be surprised, particularly when they have lots of extras. 30-50K is hardly out of the question here. A lot of the time it's not about the quality of the game but the character brand too, something that Bandai Namco Games has really ridden to the bank of late though they get a tremendous amount of negative feedback for DLC schemes and quality control among other things as well.

Let me put it this way though, I worked out the math and the Sword Art Online game tie in by them generated more revenue for Lost Song than the anime stands to make by the time all 9 of it's volumes are out over the course of the next few months. The difference between the game and anime media markets are that stark.

Here's the math which isn't going to be 100% accurate since it uses predictive estimates for the last few anime volumes:

Lost Song
139,298 (units) x 12,000 (yen) = 1,671,576,000 yen
55,090 (units) x 6,290 (yen) = 346,516,100 yen
Total=2,018,092,100 yen or 16,872,683 USD

Vs.

Season 2

15,000 (assumed average BD unit sales given the first 5 volumes) x 9 x 6,610 (yen) = 892,350,000 (yen)
3,000 (assumed DVD average sales given the first 4 volumes) x 9 x 4,980 = 134,460,000 (yen)
Total= 1,026,810,000 (yen) or 8,583,115 USD

That was for release week for the game too. It's well over 200,000 copies sold by now.
I feel like you're overestimating the video game that focus just on taking pictures, I won't deny that this help, it doesn't even seem like the price will be that much higher with the game there either, it'll obviously help some people who were thinking wether or not they should buy it but it's not like it'll bring in people who never buy BDs or were not interested just because the game is there.
 
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I feel like you're overestimating the video game that focus just on taking pictures, I won't deny that this help, it doesn't even seem like the price will be that much higher with the game there either, it'll obviously help some people who were thinking wether or not they should buy it but it's not like it'll bring in people who never buy BDs or were not interested just because the game is there.


I think people are actually underestimating it. The likelihood of 6 digit numbers is pretty much nil, but 30-50K is hardly out of the question. Remember again this is a strong character brand with a strong loyal fan following, quite often the style of the game and it's quality really won't put that much of a damper on such things as long as fans get their favorite idols being cutesy. Will it sell as much as a core iDOLM@STER game like One For All? Hell no. Will it do okay as a multimedia package with tons of extras? I really don't see why not.
 
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I feel like you're overestimating the video game that focus just on taking pictures, I won't deny that this help, it doesn't even seem like the price will be that much higher with the game there either, it'll obviously help some people who were thinking wether or not they should buy it but it's not like it'll bring in people who never buy BDs or were not interested just because the game is there.


This just a game on taking photo, if you think that's why people bought it, i don't care. Sales are recorded ( Oricon+Famitsu) FACT.

巻数   初動      累計    発売日
     BD(DVD)   BD(DVD)
01巻 3,915(1,549) 4,772(*,***) 11.10.27 ※G4U版初動 **,***枚、合計 *6,321枚
02巻 5,375(1,420) 6,207(*,***) 11.11.23 ※G4U版累計 16,069枚、合計 23,696枚
03巻 5,132(1,314) 6,513(*,***) 11.12.29 ※G4U版累計 26,453枚、合計 34,280枚
04巻 5,703(1,357) 6,732(*,***) 12.01.26 ※G4U版累計 22,433枚、合計 30,522枚
05巻 7,159(1,895) 8,684(2,527) 12.02.23 ※G4U版累計 20,030枚、合計 31,241枚
06巻 5,834(1,353) 6,453(*,***) 12.03.29 ※G4U版累計 20,181枚、合計 27,987枚
07巻 5,602(1,271) 6,819(*,***) 12.04.26 ※G4U版累計 19,834枚、合計 27,924枚
08巻 5,723(1,277) 6,876(*,***) 12.05.24 ※G4U版累計 19,133枚、合計 27,286枚
09巻 6,769(1,479) 7,530(*,***) 12.06.28 ※G4U版累計 17,849枚、合計 26,858枚
 
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Kuruba said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:
I feel like you're overestimating the video game that focus just on taking pictures, I won't deny that this help, it doesn't even seem like the price will be that much higher with the game there either, it'll obviously help some people who were thinking wether or not they should buy it but it's not like it'll bring in people who never buy BDs or were not interested just because the game is there.


This just a game on taking photo, if you think that's why people bought it, i don't care. Sales are recorded ( Oricon+Famitsu) FACT.

巻数   初動      累計    発売日
     BD(DVD)   BD(DVD)
01巻 3,915(1,549) 4,772(*,***) 11.10.27 ※G4U版初動 **,***枚、合計 *6,321枚
02巻 5,375(1,420) 6,207(*,***) 11.11.23 ※G4U版累計 16,069枚、合計 23,696枚
03巻 5,132(1,314) 6,513(*,***) 11.12.29 ※G4U版累計 26,453枚、合計 34,280枚
04巻 5,703(1,357) 6,732(*,***) 12.01.26 ※G4U版累計 22,433枚、合計 30,522枚
05巻 7,159(1,895) 8,684(2,527) 12.02.23 ※G4U版累計 20,030枚、合計 31,241枚
06巻 5,834(1,353) 6,453(*,***) 12.03.29 ※G4U版累計 20,181枚、合計 27,987枚
07巻 5,602(1,271) 6,819(*,***) 12.04.26 ※G4U版累計 19,834枚、合計 27,924枚
08巻 5,723(1,277) 6,876(*,***) 12.05.24 ※G4U版累計 19,133枚、合計 27,286枚
09巻 6,769(1,479) 7,530(*,***) 12.06.28 ※G4U版累計 17,849枚、合計 26,858枚


If you want to go out and ask every single individual person why they bought it or conduct some sort of exit survey at storefront you might have something to work on, but other than that again when something is classified as a game, released by a video game publisher, has the Playstation logo on it and is categorized as a game then it's a game. I think that simple fact trumps pure speculation and spin does it not?

Also the G4U costs 9,698 while the anime costs 5,494 yen. This is not a case of them being similarly priced, it's a different overall package in a different market set by a different publisher than the anime disc. Anime discs typically do not sell for this kind of money unless they are part of a special package, but premium collectors edition video game packages do indeed.

Anyway I don't know why some people are fighting so hard on this point, like it's just beyond the point of arguing given the categorization and everything else. Even if people don't like the idea of a photography sim being classified as a game I'd just as soon argue that if visual novels can somehow get classified as PC Games by retailers than it is what it is. Don't argue with me, argue with the publishers in question.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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This just a game on taking photo, if you think that's why people bought it, i don't care. Sales are recorded ( Oricon+Famitsu) FACT.

巻数   初動      累計    発売日
     BD(DVD)   BD(DVD)
01巻 3,915(1,549) 4,772(*,***) 11.10.27 ※G4U版初動 **,***枚、合計 *6,321枚
02巻 5,375(1,420) 6,207(*,***) 11.11.23 ※G4U版累計 16,069枚、合計 23,696枚
03巻 5,132(1,314) 6,513(*,***) 11.12.29 ※G4U版累計 26,453枚、合計 34,280枚
04巻 5,703(1,357) 6,732(*,***) 12.01.26 ※G4U版累計 22,433枚、合計 30,522枚
05巻 7,159(1,895) 8,684(2,527) 12.02.23 ※G4U版累計 20,030枚、合計 31,241枚
06巻 5,834(1,353) 6,453(*,***) 12.03.29 ※G4U版累計 20,181枚、合計 27,987枚
07巻 5,602(1,271) 6,819(*,***) 12.04.26 ※G4U版累計 19,834枚、合計 27,924枚
08巻 5,723(1,277) 6,876(*,***) 12.05.24 ※G4U版累計 19,133枚、合計 27,286枚
09巻 6,769(1,479) 7,530(*,***) 12.06.28 ※G4U版累計 17,849枚、合計 26,858枚


If you want to go out and ask every single individual person why they bought it or conduct some sort of exit survey at storefront you might have something to work on, but other than that again when something is classified as a game, released by a video game publisher, has the Playstation logo on it and is categorized as a game then it's a game. I think that simple fact trumps pure speculation and spin does it not?



I think it helps but it isn't the main reason.
I bet the G4U sales will be much lower than Imas 2011 because cinderella girls don't have a strong fanbase as 765 pro but it will be compensated by BD/DVD higher sales.
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Kuruba said:
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If you want to go out and ask every single individual person why they bought it or conduct some sort of exit survey at storefront you might have something to work on, but other than that again when something is classified as a game, released by a video game publisher, has the Playstation logo on it and is categorized as a game then it's a game. I think that simple fact trumps pure speculation and spin does it not?



I think it helps but it isn't the main reason.
I bet the G4U sales will be much lower than Imas 2011 because cinderella girls don't have a strong fanbase as 765 pro but it will be compensated by BD/DVD higher sales.


Well it's your personal belief and reasoning versus the franchise creator/publisher and retailers categorization.


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Nice, both UBW and P3: MKD are selling well
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49. **,912 **,912 High School DxD BorN OP "BLESS YoUr NAME" by ChouCho


What the hell? Are you sure there's no mistake here? Even if franchise popularity dropped it's to low


Is that really right? It's not my favorite Choucho song but less than 1000?!
 
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Wait why did Etotama release so early? Ep 3 hasn't even aired yet so the show just pretty much suicided sales-wise.

How odd.
It actually went on sale before episode 2 aired and the BD contains both episodes.
That's one of the dumbest things anyone could do in the industry so bravo to the production committee I guess. I mean why even fund the project if you're essentially telling viewers that you're not confident it could sell? Shame really.. I enjoyed the first two eps and I think it had potential to at least average 2-3k.
 
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It actually went on sale before episode 2 aired and the BD contains both episodes.
That's one of the dumbest things anyone could do in the industry so bravo to the production committee I guess. I mean why even fund the project if you're essentially telling viewers that you're not confident it could sell? Shame really.. I enjoyed the first two eps :(


The production committee needs to be fired, they didn't even give the anime a fighting chance.


 
 
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That's one of the dumbest things anyone could do in the industry so bravo to the production committee I guess. I mean why even fund the project if you're essentially telling viewers that you're not confident it could sell? Shame really.. I enjoyed the first two eps :(


The production committee needs to be fired, they didn't even give the anime a fighting chance.
Agreed. I'll continue to enjoy the show but it sucks knowing this early that it already bombed.
 
 
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Yvese said:
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It actually went on sale before episode 2 aired and the BD contains both episodes.
That's one of the dumbest things anyone could do in the industry so bravo to the production committee I guess. I mean why even fund the project if you're essentially telling viewers that you're not confident it could sell? Shame really.. I enjoyed the first two eps and I think it had potential to at least average 2-3k.
What does releasing it earlier have to do with them thinking it won't sell? It's a bad move to release it so soon though.
 
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That's one of the dumbest things anyone could do in the industry so bravo to the production committee I guess. I mean why even fund the project if you're essentially telling viewers that you're not confident it could sell? Shame really.. I enjoyed the first two eps and I think it had potential to at least average 2-3k.
What does releasing it earlier have to do with them thinking it won't sell? It's a bad move to release it so soon though.


You can't gauge if an anime is worth buying in 2 episodes. The bare minimum for 1 cour anime is 3 episodes with 5-6 being the limit (if you aren't confident in buying an anime within 6 episodes, you may want to not buy it).


 
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Hoppy said:
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What does releasing it earlier have to do with them thinking it won't sell? It's a bad move to release it so soon though.


You can't gauge if an anime is worth buying in 2 episodes. The bare minimum for 1 cour anime is 3 episodes with 5-6 being the limit (if you aren't confident in buying an anime within 6 episodes, you may want to not buy it).
My question still stands, why would they release it earlier anyway? "Our anime won't sell, might as well make it sell even less", I doubt that was their reasoning, there's obviously some other reason.
 
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Also the G4U costs 9,698 while the anime costs 5,494 yen. This is not a case of them being similarly priced, it's a different overall package in a different market set by a different publisher than the anime disc. Anime discs typically do not sell for this kind of money unless they are part of a special package, but premium collectors edition video game packages do indeed.


I also thought of the price differential here. It seems it is actually the G4U game plus the anime discs, because it would truly be just a bonus if it was the same price as the standalone BDs. But it doesn't matter, as it seems this is their magic formula to sell more discs than they would've, because the CD sales are really indicative of how much smaller the fanbase of Cinderella Girls is compared to the original Idolmaster.

We can compare this to Love Live! and the 2nd Season, which did not go this route. The BD volumes are exactly the same price as normal 2ep ones (Vol.1 only had 1 ep, so it is discounted as normal), with the bonuses tacked on. They did not go and make standalone discs with an event ticket bundled, and then made a higher priced package with the PS Vita games plus the anime BD volume. I would expect it to have sold even higher had this occurred, since it seems the PS Vita game market differs from the anime buying fanbase.

We can see this in the difference in sales for the PS Vita game CD single (which is at 40K), vs all the other singles (which are at 60K~100K). Clearly singles not associated with the anime or the mobile game end up tanking, which makes it highly likely the the upcoming single on Apr 22 will only be able to do around 40K or so. Hopefully I am wrong about that, but trends seem to suggest this.
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