Anime 'Sazae-san' Awarded Guinness Record for the World's Longest Running Cartoon
Source: Asahi Shimbun
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Similarity to certain extent - this is why I said SoL can be a secondary genre for this anime.
It's still SoL, secondary genre or primary, it's still SoL.
And you did not say "most" when you said "SoL is pretty much trash unless it's targeted at everyone" so the implication is that you are saying all, not most.
Otaku SoLs on the other hand are mostly targeted at grown up men (not referring to all seinen SoLs, but specifically those targeted at otaku). Still, the first mentioned shows are much more popular accepted than those otaku SoLs, which are mostly viewed and liked by otaku.
My most was referring to this. It's mostly viewed by them, but there obviously are exceptions.
However, that line you were quoting states that I think that SoL is pretty much trash unless it's targeted at everyone, which is correct, I do think that. If you need to belong to a certain group to enjoy a piece of entertainment, there's probably something wrong with it.
Sep 16, 2013 10:53 PM by ZetaZaku
Never talked with a Japanese about what genre Doraemon is, so I wouldn't know. It's really similar to other SoLs.
Are we talking about the K-On anime or manga? And I said most, not all.
Sep 16, 2013 9:51 PM by symbv
Never say this is not the case, but that does not equal to " targeted at everyone".
Doraemon has strong SoL elements, but as I said if I ask people in Japan to describe this anime, I doubt SoL (nichijou) will be the first thing they'd come up. And for the movies, those are definitely not even SoL as a secondary genre even, as you also noted.
And if you talk about shows that people of all age can enjoy, many non-otaku also mention K-On, one major "otaku-oriented" SoL anime.
Never talked with a Japanese about what genre Doraemon is, so I wouldn't know. It's really similar to other SoLs.
Are we talking about the K-On anime or manga? And I said most, not all.
Sep 16, 2013 9:48 PM by ZetaZaku
Shin-chan, Chibi Maruko-chan and Doraemon are pretty much shows people of all age can enjoy. You don't have to be a child to enjoy them. That's the charm of them.
Doraemon has strong SoL elements, but as I said if I ask people in Japan to describe this anime, I doubt SoL (nichijou) will be the first thing they'd come up. And for the movies, those are definitely not even SoL as a secondary genre even, as you also noted.
And if you talk about shows that people of all age can enjoy, many non-otaku also mention K-On, one major "otaku-oriented" SoL anime.
Sep 16, 2013 9:37 PM by symbv
The thing is those SoL you mentioned did not really targeted at "everyone" (if anything most people would say Shin-chan, Chibi Maruko and Doraemon as targeted at kids). As I said, there are people who don't like Sazae-san, and Doraemon is not even considered SoL (as the primary genre) in Japan. Whether it is ahead or trash is just purely your own personal opinion, so don't say it as if it is some universal objective truth.
Shin-chan, Chibi Maruko-chan and Doraemon are pretty much shows people of all age can enjoy. You don't have to be a child to enjoy them. That's the charm of them. They aren't exclusively made for a certain audience and they aren't insulting anyone's intelligence. Otaku SoLs on the other hand are mostly targeted at grown up men (not referring to all seinen SoLs, but specifically those targeted at otaku). Still, the first mentioned shows are much more popular accepted than those otaku SoLs, which are mostly viewed and liked by otaku.
Doraemon has that adventure aspect that prevents it from being your usual SoL, but it's still showing Nobita's everyday life. The Doraemon movies aren't SoL, but the show is pretty much SoL.
Sep 16, 2013 9:29 PM by ZetaZaku
Sazae-san is actually quite funny at times, the length prevents me from marathoning it (not a fan of marathoning super long runners, nor have I achieved a feat close to this level), however it's episodic so I can see a later episode with few problems if any.
Sep 16, 2013 8:57 PM by symbv
Sep 16, 2013 8:51 PM by Hoppy
Doraemon, Shin-chan, Mainichi Kaasan, Chibi Maruko-chan, Jarinko Chie and Sazae-san show you the beauty of SoL. The very little I've seen from each of these were miles ahead of any otaku targeted SoL. So yeah, SoL is pretty much trash unless it's targeted at everyone.
Sep 16, 2013 8:47 PM by symbv
Sep 16, 2013 3:19 PM by Conan_Kudo
i though the longest anime was doraemon
i bet one piece will beat them all
no thats just false cause all the ones listed batter One piece in the Tv Ratings
i stated the resaons why one piece will never do it i know what we h was taliked about and i rebuffed it
Sep 16, 2013 2:04 PM by DateYutaka
i though the longest anime was doraemon
i bet one piece will beat them all
no thats just false cause all the ones listed batter One piece in the Tv Ratings
Sep 16, 2013 1:51 PM by Introverturtled
i though the longest anime was doraemon
i bet one piece will beat them all
no thats just false cause all the ones listed batter One piece in the Tv Ratings
Sep 16, 2013 1:43 PM by DateYutaka
i though the longest anime was doraemon
i bet one piece will beat them all
Mod Edit: Merged posts. Please do not double post.
Sep 16, 2013 1:39 PM by CP9
And it also taught me the beauty of SoL (as understood in Japan), where pain and dark side do not have to feature prominently in order to tell us something about life and relationship.
Doraemon, Shin-chan, Mainichi Kaasan, Chibi Maruko-chan, Jarinko Chie and Sazae-san show you the beauty of SoL. The very little I've seen from each of these were miles ahead of any otaku targeted SoL. So yeah, SoL is pretty much trash unless it's targeted at everyone.
Sep 16, 2013 12:46 PM by ZetaZaku
Sep 16, 2013 7:16 AM by AxelcG
Sep 16, 2013 3:49 AM by octal9
Sep 16, 2013 2:26 AM by Icyness
Sep 15, 2013 11:24 PM by soulless4now
"..and is one of the few anime that is considered "acceptable" by adults".
Seriouslee?
Sep 15, 2013 3:23 PM by Kilnerbanker
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Similarity to certain extent - this is why I said SoL can be a secondary genre for this anime.
However, that line you were quoting states that I think that SoL is pretty much trash unless it's targeted at everyone, which is correct, I do think that. If you need to belong to a certain group to enjoy a piece of entertainment, there's probably something wrong with it.
Sep 17, 2013 1:06 AM by symbv