'Muteki Kanban Musume' Manga Artist Sadogawa Jun Found Dead
Source: Asahi News
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Aug 16, 2013 6:51 AM by CrescentYozora25
Aug 15, 2013 3:34 PM by JezusBull
^ Well, I just think that if the taboo is really very influential and deeply held, people will really go to great length to hide it. It was what happened in Catholic countries back when the religion held great away and Catholicism forbids suicide. While I don't deny that suicide rate could be indeed lower when Catholicism was powerful force and suicide was a strict taboo in countries like France, Italy and Spain, it is also estimated that back in the old days a lot of suicides were not reported and disguised as something else.
I think it's all comes to mindset in the end. Here we have different kind of mindset about suicide and that's one of the reason for low numbers of cases. I think a normal mindset of suicidal person out there should be like, if i die then all these problems will be solved. Now that i think about it, i don't know how many times i hear Kagamine Rin song Meltdown, maybe more than thousand and that is something which can encourage people to do suicide. You have sad life, depressed life, poverty, debt, can't sleep properly in the night. So if you just end it then your next morning will be so beautiful. Now if someone in japan hearing it with kinda similar circumstances then s/he will think. Oh, It's probably true, but i can't dive in nuclear reactor so why not just use a rope then i will be able to sleep properly. While we think that if you end your life with your own hands then it's not over. You're in even more trouble than this depressed, sad or without sleeping life. That kind of mindset encourage us not to do suicide. Of-course some people still do it, but the number difference is too big.
Well, if government can do something about these kind of materials. (not the song :) which encourage others to just give up and do suicide, then i think they might be able to control on it, even if a little bit. I was reading yesterday that S.Korean govt did something like this by hiring 100 peoples to check online materials, social media and websites. I wonder if they got any success but there could be more options to prevent this, over 30000 lives in a year is not something where you say, oh it's his own life. there is nothing we can do. Governments should take steps, especially in those top ten countries.
Aug 15, 2013 2:13 PM by Han-yuu
Aug 14, 2013 3:38 PM by GuiltyPleasure
Aug 14, 2013 3:09 PM by Rosaryn
And when someone make up the mind to do suicide. S/He doesn't care about taboo, society or what other think. And hanging in the room is not the only and easy way. Also things like divorce and other unpleasant statistic become news every now and then.
True, true... when I saw no hope and no exit to my problems, I couldn't care less about what others thought. I was like "fuck'em..I wanna end this shit of life". Was angry and sad at the same time... that people actually left me by myself. I felt like I was there, but I wasn't. Nonexistant. If u have such problems as potentional suiciders, other people usually shy away from you. That's the tragic part of it. People let u kill yourself. And when suicide is committed, people then cry how good and nice that person was. And how if they knew about the problems they'd definitely help him for sure...
Funny thing... when contemplating the ways to kill myself, I didn't care about others, but the very thing that brought me to that psychic mood was that gnawing question "I'm such loser, what do others think of me? Am I able to face them again?"...
I was just about to get me rat poison, when in my mind I saw the image of that drunk mofo, laughing and mocking me... thanks to that flashback, I instantly decided, I'm not gonna lose to that motherfucker. To that drunk piece of shit? No way! I chose to live...
Aug 14, 2013 8:45 AM by Marko3
Aug 14, 2013 8:07 AM by symbv
And when someone make up the mind to do suicide. S/He doesn't care about taboo, society or what other think. And hanging in the room is not the only and easy way. Also things like divorce and other unpleasant statistic become news every now and then.
You see, it's not easy to hide it here. The religion had the big influence on every part of our life and the families can't hide it sometimes even if they want to. We ask scholars for almost everything. And a most common problem here is that when someone suicide, what will we do about his death prayer? Is it allowed or not? Who will pray? As it's not everyday issue, majority doesn't know about it and the first thing families do is to ask scholars about this and tell the truth. And we don't bury until the death prayer is done. Other thing is that this taboo doesn't affect the families but the person himself. We condemn the person for why s/he did that but we do pray as it is allowed. It's completely different to rape, illegal child, divorce or things like that, where sometimes whole families are affected. I accept that maybe few peoples do hide it because of their influence in the society or for some other reason but i'm sure numbers will be too low. As it's not normal mindset here to hide it just because it's not allowed. The whole taboo thing is related to a personal sin and afterlife.
Aug 14, 2013 7:32 AM by Han-yuu
U know,when in highschool I was 2 minutes away from committing suicide myself. Child of alcoholics and alone all the time, no one to talk to... my life was horrible. Yet, I chose life. I still wanted to see so many things! So, I decided to live. Though as ACOA I still have problems and issues that make my life tough (yeah life sucks), I like life... you know I get to enjoy anime, cycling and music, and every single day is like... epic... my idea of suicide is that only weak and stupid people finish their lives in such way. But I guess that's not fair from me...some people just don't have this willpower (luckily something that made me survive through this hell and of which I'm proud of).
LOL..and yes I'm from Slovenia...
Seen lots of cool documentaries on youtube on this issue of suicides nad other about Japanese people...
Anyways, RIP to that man in the news... if just someone had hugged him. =(
But it is true that from what I have learned so far, the Japanese just don't talk about their problems...So he was hidding his problems. I mean if u're mentally unstable in country like Japan (despite all our fantasies how great that society is; though I still think it's awesome, would love to live there), you are bound to end up as one of 30k some people each year...
Well, I think nice animes that will make you think about life and how beautiful it is and change your perspective to happy ...you should watch :
- NHK ni Youkoso!
- Anohana
- Usagi Drop
- Clannad
...
well, guys... have fun, life is worth living and never give up =)
Aug 14, 2013 7:31 AM by Marko3
And when someone make up the mind to do suicide. S/He doesn't care about taboo, society or what other think. And hanging in the room is not the only and easy way. Also things like divorce and other unpleasant statistic become news every now and then.
Aug 14, 2013 4:55 AM by symbv
I believe that's not lack of reporting. It's difficult to suppress news here. A little bit commotion and you will watch/read it in the news next day (and now even in an hour).
A few maybe? Let's say wikipedia report is wrong and can double the figures but still thanks to our education. The numbers are too low considering overall population, high prices, poverty and many many other issues we have. If i say then killing other peoples is lot easier here than someone killing himself. And killing others is not something anyone can allow but peoples are not afraid. And when someone make up the mind to do suicide. S/He doesn't care about taboo, society or what other think. And hanging in the room is not the only and easy way. Also things like divorce and other unpleasant statistic become news every now and then.
Aug 14, 2013 4:50 AM by Han-yuu
I believe that's not lack of reporting. It's difficult to suppress news here. A little bit commotion and you will watch/read it in the news next day (and now even in an hour).
Aug 14, 2013 4:31 AM by symbv
In our religion and culture, we're taught to not do suicide no matter what happen. It's like taboo and thanks to that. We rarely hear a news about suicide.
I believe that's not lack of reporting. It's difficult to suppress news here. A little bit commotion and you will watch/read it in the news next day (and now even in an hour). Not to mention the last time i heard news of a suicide in my city was only 10 years ago and because it's like a taboo, almost everyone knew about it. According to wikipedia, there were 300 suicides in past 2 years and that's in nearly 185 million population.
Aug 14, 2013 4:19 AM by Han-yuu
Aug 14, 2013 3:59 AM by Shintop
This is not suicide, this is planned murder.
Kindaichi is better
^
Aug 14, 2013 3:37 AM by FALLOUT4
are you sure the suicide isnt a cover for a murder though?
Aug 14, 2013 2:03 AM by Figma
I didn't know Japan has a lot of suicides tho. Interesting....
To learn about suicides in Japan, check
http://factsanddetails.com/japan.php?itemid=639
Aug 14, 2013 12:12 AM by symbv
Interesting, never knew South Korea is one of the top 10 countries with the highest suicide rate.
I found out about this not too long ago and it was quite a shocker tbh.
I heard it's because of the study hours, a lot of kids commit suicide because the stress from school is too much for them. I hear they study 16 hours a day.
(Or maybe it's the pressure to look perfect too..)
I didn't know Japan has a lot of suicides tho. Interesting....
Aug 13, 2013 11:57 PM by MermaidGalaxies
Why would he do that if his manga "Amane Atatameru" is currently being serialized in Weekly Shounen Champion?
Aug 13, 2013 11:40 PM by aririkashika
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