| How accurate are MAL rating? The common sentiment surrounding MAL is that shows rating are controversial. □︎□︎□︎□︎□︎□︎□︎Many consider an anime rated 8/10 as "okay, "while a rating of 6/10 might be perceived as "trash". The MAL top 100 list is often regarded as a reference point for the "best" anime of all time according to the MyAnimeList community. But I'm sure most of us don't agree with half of the entry on that list.. |
Je-suis-luiMar 30, 2024 7:27 AM
| I think they are quite useless. I mean, other persons rating doesn't matter since everyone has a different taste. For example, I don't care for at least 70 % of the top 100 anime out here. One of my favorite anime which I really enjoyed is only rated 6.36. However, there might be some hidden gems out there that are rated high or low and it's actually quite a good idea to give at least a few episodes a try to see if you enjoy it or not despite whatever rating it might have. It only depends on your own tastes. Ecchi and they are going down to oblivion just for being Ecchi Newer ecchi are so weak compared to the good old days back in early 2000. I like ecchi as well but there ain't any good ones coming out lately. |
| "You only realize the real value of something you discarded when you get the chance to pick it up again." - Rudeus Greyrat |
| Indeed. I never trust MAL ratings or any kind of top lists in general, not just MAL. |
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| so many persons giving 10 to every anime it makes everyting worst |
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| The ratings aren't useless they're just averages with many biases influencing them, it's mostly helpful for new anime watchers to pick something generally liked by many people. This shit totally is not a big deal at all and MAL users just get butthurt for no reason every time arguing about scores, usually because they're too lazy to argue about actual content |
| hmm alt account just to blame the rating, adding Aushwitz into location ah very original "edgy kid" aren't we? Waiting for this thread to be locked and maybe some other results x) |
| Wait are you telling me that Bleach: Sennen Kessen-hen doesn’t deserve to be among the top 10 anime of all time? You must be very stupid to suggest something like that. On a more serious note, I have been lurking on the mal forums for the past 2 years as well as checking various profiles and my conclusion is that the average mal users tastes are moronic at the best of times. At least on imdb when a movie/show gets a rating of 7 and above I am relatively certain that I won’t have to burn my eyes after watching it. |
| Bees Don’t Waste their Time at Explaining to Flies that Honey is Better than Shit |
| Some people won't admit to themself that they did spend their time on a bad anime, so they instead give nearly every anime they have watched a high score. It's really sad. |
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| I don't understand this argument, it's just an average (possibly weighted slightly) of all combined (valid) scores. The top 100 are all pretty reasonable from what I can see, but I'm well aware that popularity factors heavily into the equation nor am I viewing them as some objective standard. I use ratings as a guideline, relative to my own personal taste, and then I account for how likely the score is to be inflated. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| I never ever used Mal's top 100 list to watch anime anyway. Maybe Hibike, but except that, never. Couldn't give a shit. |
 -Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. |
Je-suis-lui said: But I'm sure most of us don't agree with half of the entry on that list.. True, but you'll find even less good anime if you pick other random sections of the top list, like #1001-#1100 for example. Anyways, scores are meant to be interpreted, not to be taken at face value. |
| They aren't useless, but they aren't too reliable either, because they throw all scores together regardless of age and gender. There should also be demographic score categories, they would be much more reliable for individuals. |
Reply to Sports_Friday
The ratings aren't useless they're just averages with many biases influencing them, it's mostly helpful for new anime watchers to pick something generally liked by many people. This shit totally is not a big deal at all and MAL users just get butthurt for no reason every time arguing about scores, usually because they're too lazy to argue about actual content
Sports_Friday said: This shit totally is not a big deal at all and MAL users just get butthurt for no reason every time arguing about scores Lmao so fcking true. I'm tired of people being so obsessed over something so trivial. |
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| Very often you need to know the entire history of the show and the nuances of its content in order to understand a particular rating. For example, it is very difficult for frivolous, light hearted, intentionally goofy shows to get a high rating because many people will downvote them due to a bias towards not serious shows. |
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Same old shit. People feeling the need to rate things on a 6-10 scale cuz using the full 1-10 scale would mean their hobby is not as great as they thought it was. Small people with large, fragile egos are deathly afraid of being critical. Pic related. |
| 100 people 100 tastes. So you will always find people that won't agree with most of the top/worst rankings (except people that are following highest scored series only - even if they would consider it trash without knowing rates - I know some irl). I also had the most dropped animes when I started to pick them by top rates and not by my usual rules. You will never find scoring website that would be accurate to your ones because the only accurate rates for yourself are your rates so its pointless to be annoyed when something you love has 6- or something you hate has 9+ score. Its same like with non-anime series/movies. |
Reply to LostSpectre
I don't understand this argument, it's just an average (possibly weighted slightly) of all combined (valid) scores. The top 100 are all pretty reasonable from what I can see, but I'm well aware that popularity factors heavily into the equation nor am I viewing them as some objective standard. I use ratings as a guideline, relative to my own personal taste, and then I account for how likely the score is to be inflated.
LostSpectre said: use ratings as a guideline, relative to my own personal taste, and then I account for how likely the score is to be inflated. This is more or less what I do. Also 6-7 is like junk food for me which I consume in great amounts, especially isekai. |
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| do you ever search for the thread before making it? this thread is consistently in the top ones, just look up the old thread if you want to know about it |
| Yes yes frieren is totally the best anime ever and bleach is actually peak fiction!!! You don't agree? Maybe check your media literacy!! #peak #anime |
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Reply to Za_Panda
Yes yes frieren is totally the best anime ever and bleach is actually peak fiction!!! You don't agree? Maybe check your media literacy!!
#peak #anime
#peak #anime
| @Za_Panda You rated OP(The anime) a 10. You are the perfect example for this forum. |
Reply to Je-suis-lui
@Za_Panda You rated OP(The anime) a 10. You are the perfect example for this forum.
| @Je-suis-lui So? I like it enough to give it a 10/10. Does it have flaws? Yes. But. So. What? Is there anything wrong with it that I am the "perfect example"? Considering "new" accounts like yours are the ones that boosted or lowered the ratings of anime in the past, you are the "perfect example" of why mal ratings got to this point. So shut your yapping. |
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Reply to Za_Panda
@Je-suis-lui
So? I like it enough to give it a 10/10. Does it have flaws? Yes. But. So. What?
Is there anything wrong with it that I am the "perfect example"?
Considering "new" accounts like yours are the ones that boosted or lowered the ratings of anime in the past, you are the "perfect example" of why mal ratings got to this point. So shut your yapping.
So? I like it enough to give it a 10/10. Does it have flaws? Yes. But. So. What?
Is there anything wrong with it that I am the "perfect example"?
Considering "new" accounts like yours are the ones that boosted or lowered the ratings of anime in the past, you are the "perfect example" of why mal ratings got to this point. So shut your yapping.
| @Za_Panda You can't comprehend that people like you, is the reason this site rating system is dreadful. For normal users the rating scale is 1-10, but for you It's 6-10. That why so many anime are over-rated. |
| Ratings are always a double edged sword. |
| I need somebody who can love me at my worst No, I'm not perfect, but I hope you see my worth 'Cause it's only you, nobody new, I put you first And for you, girl, I swear I'll do the worst If you stay forever, let me hold your hand I can fill those places in your heart no else can Let me show you love, oh, I don't pretend, yeah I'll be right here, baby, you know I'll sink or swim |
| This type of thread crops up every week or so, but the statement they make is as obvious as saying you shouldn't stick your hand on a hot stove. The weighted scores here have never been a remotely accurate benchmark for quality; they're actually completely useless in that regard. |
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Reply to Styx_Thistle
I wouldn't say they're entirely useless. If it's rated anything below a 7.0 then I'd go in expecting rough production. However, I recently went into an anime with a decent rating and expected it to at least be enjoyable, but after the first episode it was just the most generic, braindead trash ever. I think it actually inflicted brain damage it was that dumb. Therefore, I would not say scores are that useful either.
| @Styx_Thistle What's the name of that Anime? |
| Wdym? Madhouse is really worried knowing that Edgyguy99 wrote a negative review about their most recent show giving it a 1 |
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Reply to Sports_Friday
The ratings aren't useless they're just averages with many biases influencing them, it's mostly helpful for new anime watchers to pick something generally liked by many people. This shit totally is not a big deal at all and MAL users just get butthurt for no reason every time arguing about scores, usually because they're too lazy to argue about actual content
| @Sports_Friday 100% agree with you. |
| The only ratings I care about and take seriously are my own. |
| MAL Users Reconcile That Other People Can Think And Feel Differently And That Aggregate Scores Can Be Generally Indicative But Not Personally Definitive Without Blaming Everyone Else For Being Wrong About Everything Challenge: Impossible. |
Reply to Luchipher-Zen
I would say MAL Top 100 can be better termed as most popular of all good anime lot.
My take on the rating returned by the formula is that, it can be perceived or used to determine how bad an anime can be.. So a score for me instead of how good it is, represents how worse it can be. If I see a title have a score of6, my interpretation is that at worst this anime is a 6. And usually this is helpful. I have never found anime below 5, that I would give individual rating of a higher score. So, it helps me bifurcate the good lot from bad lot.
Individual scored fail at this, someone's high is my low, and low is my high and vice versa. And that's fair as diversity in tastes is natural when we have such variation in genre, themes, and demographics. But, the magic of statistics is that at a wider perspective, trends are visible and relevant. It's a formulated average i.e. consumer's trend, treat it as such. There is prob at there being low to no correlation between individual ratings and MAL scores.
And since your account is new [I dunno if you yourself are just so], this is my reply to a similar thread in the past. If you actually want to understand more user's views, you can use advanced search in forum with "MAL Rating" as trigger. Lot of discussion threads.
My take on the rating returned by the formula is that, it can be perceived or used to determine how bad an anime can be.. So a score for me instead of how good it is, represents how worse it can be. If I see a title have a score of6, my interpretation is that at worst this anime is a 6. And usually this is helpful. I have never found anime below 5, that I would give individual rating of a higher score. So, it helps me bifurcate the good lot from bad lot.
Individual scored fail at this, someone's high is my low, and low is my high and vice versa. And that's fair as diversity in tastes is natural when we have such variation in genre, themes, and demographics. But, the magic of statistics is that at a wider perspective, trends are visible and relevant. It's a formulated average i.e. consumer's trend, treat it as such. There is prob at there being low to no correlation between individual ratings and MAL scores.
And since your account is new [I dunno if you yourself are just so], this is my reply to a similar thread in the past. If you actually want to understand more user's views, you can use advanced search in forum with "MAL Rating" as trigger. Lot of discussion threads.
| @Luchipher-Zen I also agree with you on this |
| If the score is high, I think that majority of the people liked the series. So ı may enjoy too. But other than this, I dont take ratings serious. |
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Reply to Je-suis-lui
@Za_Panda You can't comprehend that people like you, is the reason this site rating system is dreadful. For normal users the rating scale is 1-10, but for you It's 6-10. That why so many anime are over-rated.
| @Je-suis-lui My list. My ratings. My rules. Cry about it. If you want me to follow your playground rules then go to another rating website where I don't have an account. You can't comprehend that people like you and your prestigious rules have the net value of nothingness. |
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| I've seen a season of Kaguya-sama be considered "the greatest anime of all time" so I know these rankings are a joke since then... |
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Reply to removed-user
I've spent a whopping five seconds thinking about this so I have no idea how it would work nor how effective it would be, but it'd be cool if there was a way to see a weighted average of some kind.
Say that a show has the Romance tag. Someone that has seen a ton of Romance shows is likely to have a better idea of what makes a "good" Romance, so maybe their score could be weighed more heavily than someone that is watching a Romance show for the first time.
Similarly, perhaps a score from someone that normally enjoys Romance and has an average Romance score of 7/10 is more meaningful than the score given by a Romance hater who averages 2/10 for the genre.
Again, this is likely to be just as flawed as the current system (if not more so), but it'd be interesting to see which shows are best according to "knowledgeable" fans that are better qualified to make that judgement.
Say that a show has the Romance tag. Someone that has seen a ton of Romance shows is likely to have a better idea of what makes a "good" Romance, so maybe their score could be weighed more heavily than someone that is watching a Romance show for the first time.
Similarly, perhaps a score from someone that normally enjoys Romance and has an average Romance score of 7/10 is more meaningful than the score given by a Romance hater who averages 2/10 for the genre.
Again, this is likely to be just as flawed as the current system (if not more so), but it'd be interesting to see which shows are best according to "knowledgeable" fans that are better qualified to make that judgement.
| @alexw1020 This is more along the lines of what AniDB does, but the results are expected when you give "elitists" more power than average users. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Reply to removed-user
I've spent a whopping five seconds thinking about this so I have no idea how it would work nor how effective it would be, but it'd be cool if there was a way to see a weighted average of some kind.
Say that a show has the Romance tag. Someone that has seen a ton of Romance shows is likely to have a better idea of what makes a "good" Romance, so maybe their score could be weighed more heavily than someone that is watching a Romance show for the first time.
Similarly, perhaps a score from someone that normally enjoys Romance and has an average Romance score of 7/10 is more meaningful than the score given by a Romance hater who averages 2/10 for the genre.
Again, this is likely to be just as flawed as the current system (if not more so), but it'd be interesting to see which shows are best according to "knowledgeable" fans that are better qualified to make that judgement.
Say that a show has the Romance tag. Someone that has seen a ton of Romance shows is likely to have a better idea of what makes a "good" Romance, so maybe their score could be weighed more heavily than someone that is watching a Romance show for the first time.
Similarly, perhaps a score from someone that normally enjoys Romance and has an average Romance score of 7/10 is more meaningful than the score given by a Romance hater who averages 2/10 for the genre.
Again, this is likely to be just as flawed as the current system (if not more so), but it'd be interesting to see which shows are best according to "knowledgeable" fans that are better qualified to make that judgement.
| @alexw1020 You have now brought up the typical dilemmas of democracy like ignoring the difference in competence due to equalization of votes or the influence of subjectivity and the crowd effect on the result, lol. So I'm afraid that this is no longer a matter of MAL, but of the very concept of voting. |
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| The thing with MAL rankings is that there will always be tons of people who will be discontent with it no matter what it looks like. You either please the people with popular tastes, or you please the people with obscure/niche tastes. You can probably please 30-40% of all anime fans with the ranking that we have now (just my guess), or you can alternatively please less than 5% of all anime fans if we change the ranking to one where only niche and obscure anime are at the top. An anime ranking that 90% of anime fans can agree on is just not possible. Then there's also the whole idea of “best” vs “favorite” anime. Some people rate highly based on what anime they think is the best, while others only give high scores to anime that are their favorites. Some people care about good story, script, plot, etc. while others don't care about those things when they rate their anime. But as for whether I agree with MAL's ranking or not, I haven't really seen enough anime to say for sure. From the anime that I've completed though, it seems I more or less agree with two-thirds of MAL's scores. |
| Black Clover has a higher rating than Naruto, how am I supposed to take something like that seriously? lol. |
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| I’ll do you one better, I don’t take 90% of reviews or ratings in general seriously. |
| As others have said, the ratings do not really matter to me. If the synopsis is enough to make me want more, it gets added to the PTW. The ratings also suffer bias from the member count. The lower the member count, the more high the rating is likely to be. Or vice versa. |
 Be safe and well travels, Chris |
| MAL anime rating isn't even really work on interval 1-10 as I said here for now, and that's because of some users' behavior to the rating itself. (At least, it's still impossible for an anime to get exact rating 10.00 or 1.00) LNW_R92CP said: But for MAL itself, after I check from "top anime" thing, rating 6.xx has the most anime, around 5095 anime as I write this, compared to 7.xx (around 3575), and 5.xx (around 3111). Rating 9.xx to 8.xx have around 622 anime, rating 4.xx to 1.xx have around 671 anime, and some unrated anime out there. Well, I think 6 or 7 could be average :3 From what I said here, I can assume that anime with rating 6.xx is already not good or at least average for majority (of course that not all people have this mind) Even I use interval 6-10 than 1-10 for my "completed" anime because of this. And yes, I don't pick anime only from the ratings. Other's trash is my treasure, and vice versa. Oh, 1 more thing. MAL rating is also really depends on the Genre of the anime because it can affect the popularity and also the rating itself :) |
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