| The "person who lives abnormally long" trope isn't unique to those two works. You can find it in Tolkien, Asimov's Bicentennial Man, Mass Effect and many more so I wouldn't call it a rip off but a utilization of a proven trope. I do agree though that Japan needs to slow down with all the crappy uninspired fantasy they've been putting out in the last couple of year. It's getting tiresom. |
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| There is no such obsession. Maybe you mean "why do they make a lot of manga using current fashion / trends"? As someone who read all available chapters of both "Sousou no Frieren" and "Fumetsu no Anata e" I can say: no, it doesn't have the same plot. I have several views on "how exactly they are different". It's my personal subjective view, so there is no need to go into details. There is an enormous amount of manga. You can always try to read something made in the past. |
| Ah, I miss people who accuse works of plagiarism or lack of originality because of some very general coincidence in some tropes. Although judging by the last line and the fact that this is not isekai, it looks like OP just wanted to complain about isekai in this way once again, okay. |
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| Also pretending like this is an issue exclusive to Japan and the rest of the media from all around the world doesn't have this issue as well. The two shows you mentioned are technically not even operating in the same genre. One is supernatural, other is a fantasy world. Just having a being that lives a very long time is not enough to count as copying. "The Epic of Gilgamesh is the earliest known appearance of the concept of immortality in fiction." And it's written 2100–1200 BC, so the concept is just 3000-4000 years old |
| Are you just now discovering elves in fiction? |
| There's literally no such thing as originality anymore since everything's been done before. I also have to laugh at the fact that you'd use China as an example of originality when it's the country that's most well-known for fakes and knockoffs. |
gamibo said: This Frieren manga has literally the same plot as manga To Your Eternity. I dont understand why Japan is so obsessed with copying others works. Amount of plagiarism thats present in Japan manga industry is unbelievable. Nowadays even China is trying new innovative things instead of copying others. There is no originality left in manga industry, every mangaka making shitty generic isekai stories and others copying others works😔 Even if it was copied (it wasn’t), it was made better, so no one cares. |
| mlem Also read Ookami Shounen wa Kyou mo Uso wo Kasaneru (Bless Botan) |
10 points for putting a bit of effort making this bait  |
| What a foolish comment. If you want to consider that plagiarism there is no artistic work out there that isn't derivative. For goodness sake this is literally just based on DnD fantasy and even the guy who helped establish all these tropes Tolkien ripped off numerous European myths and legends (Song of Roland, Beowulf). If you aren't taking from others you aren't trying as an artist. Tropes exist for a reason. It really is just up to how you approach it. The last time I saw anything about Chinese media was a critic complaining they try to emulate the West too much in their live action films and Japan in their animated works compared to say what they were doing before the millennium. China literally tried to rip off Top Gun until it got blasted by its own netzins lol. They are not some harbor of originality. |
BilboBaggins365Sep 30, 2023 4:08 PM
| Now you're just making stuff up to be angry about. I'm only up to episode 2 of Frieren right now, but aside from the main leads in both living very long and having people close to them die, nothing is the same. Even with those two things it is completely different, as Fushi is, by the definition of his name, immortal, while Frieren is simply an elf (who live very long lives but are not immortal), and the people close to Fushi are almost always brutally killed, while those close to Frieren seem to die naturally of old age (at this point in time anyway, I don't know if anything changes). Not to mention, especially as of season 2, the plot of To Your Eternity has changed from simply learning about the world and making friends. Not to mention, as others have already said, the concept of immortality and humans/other beings living for hundreds or thousands of years existed long before Japan, manga, and most of anything else you see this trope in. Finally, from what I've personally seen, Chinese "anime" (I don't know what other term to use) is still far behind Japanese anime in my opinion. I've only seen two, but one of them suck while the other one I've put on hold. Not to mention, literally everything that I think is Chinese whenever I look at the seasonal anime list are indistinguishable from each other, so saying China is innovative in this department is ridiculous. Even Chinese figures and what not have a reputation for being terrible. I don't know if you were talking about anime specifically, but I decided it was a good example given the context. Now that I'm thinking about it, this was probably bait. |
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| What is the OP high on? I mean this isn't just shroom or acid. |
so you are wrong. It's funny you bring up Fumetsu no Anate E when the entire story copy pastes itself over and over |
DignitySep 30, 2023 7:11 PM
| I wouldn’t call this a rip-off. In fact, this is one of the most original things we’ve seen in recent fantasy (if you want copied, just look at pretty much every recent isekai). |
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| Dunno, man. Why is Disney only making live action remakes of their classics and when they try something original it absolutely bombs? |
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| What a bad bait, try harder next time. |
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| What the fuck is this nimrod babbling about? Waste of a thread + bad bait. Dude doesn't even explain why he thinks it's a rip off smh. |
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| Bait used to be believable |
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| bro just described fiction in general. and the difference is one of them looked interesting enough for me to start it, and it ain't to your eternity. |
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| I remember when people use to actually try with their bait. This is just pathetically low effort. |
| Worthless troll threads like this deserve to be locked and forgotten. |
StyxParadiseOct 1, 2023 2:48 AM
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| It’s not new for a series to be heavily inspired by another. I don’t understand why you need to make this seem as if it’s a Japan only thing. Unless you’re baiting with this comment, which in this case seems to have worked |
| Just stfu dude with your useless propaganda |
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