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Sep 21, 2023 9:48 AM
#1
Which would you choose if you are struggling with Anxiety and Depression? |
Sep 21, 2023 9:53 AM
#2
I don't see why both of those options would be mutually exclusive... |
Sep 21, 2023 9:56 AM
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Sep 21, 2023 9:57 AM
#4
You should probably do both. The anime isn't going to directly solve your problems, more then likely distract you from them, though I have been looking for anime that make life look worth living. (It's a weird question to ask so I haven't made a recommendation request for it; slice-of-life shows kind of fit. Someone who isn't hopelessly lost and turned off by inspiration might be lifted up by Bakuman or Space Brothers.) |
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Sep 21, 2023 10:04 AM
#5
my therapist didn't really help me much (plus it cost money), meanwhile anime is a great form of escapism, does not cost as much, and it makes me happy and laugh lol |
Sep 21, 2023 10:06 AM
#6
I usually watch nature documentaries if I'm depressed. |
Sep 21, 2023 10:06 AM
#7
I never really had depression so I can`t say for certain. It really depends on what your issue is. If a hobby can satisfy you go that route 1st. The problem with therapy is that it just gives you someone to talk too, but it can`t magically make you better or more attractive. It is like getting advise from a average normie in which talking to your family is better since they are more likely to care for you actually. Getting medicine for it really should be a last ressort since most people I heard of become dependent on their meds. Good luck op. |
Sep 21, 2023 10:43 AM
#8
anime can help you escape your reality as well as make you do better. it all depends on what kind of animes you watch and what YOU want to do. therapist will of course be more beneficial but not all of us feel safe going to one. anime is a better option in that case and i believe it can help anyone just depends on what you're looking for. |
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Sep 21, 2023 12:00 PM
#9
Neither of those stopped me from wishing to die, honestly. Only you can help yourself. |
Sep 21, 2023 12:10 PM
#10
Reply to Prinzesschen
Neither of those stopped me from wishing to die, honestly. Only you can help yourself.
@Prinzesschen I recommend Fruits Basket. I don't know if it will work for you, but it worked for me!!! Also here: Anime: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/tags/mental-illness Manga: https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags/mental-illness Also, if you can afford it Therapy is a good option too!!! |
Sep 21, 2023 1:28 PM
#11
Sep 21, 2023 1:42 PM
#12
Reply to FriendlyPaw
@Prinzesschen I recommend Fruits Basket. I don't know if it will work for you, but it worked for me!!!
Also here:
Anime: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/tags/mental-illness
Manga: https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags/mental-illness
Also, if you can afford it Therapy is a good option too!!!
Also here:
Anime: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/tags/mental-illness
Manga: https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags/mental-illness
Also, if you can afford it Therapy is a good option too!!!
@FriendlyPaw How did tagged mental illness content worked for you? Healed your depression or made you feel understood? Sorry if that sound aggressive, I'm genuinely wondering. |
Sep 21, 2023 3:32 PM
#13
Lifting heavy things is the correct answer. Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man. And excessive escapism is why you are there to begin with. |
Kimochi Warui |
Sep 21, 2023 3:44 PM
#14
I don't struggle with those conditions, and I would find it difficult to relate to someone that does. As much as I like anime, I also know it's not a cure-all for whatever ails you. When struggling with anxiety or depression, one really should seek some professional help, or at least get some advice from someone that has overcome their struggle. It likely wouldn't hurt to watch anime to help take your mind off things that trouble you, but despite there being countless anime with a magical theme/element, it won't magically cure YOU. |
You're never too old to watch anime. If I ever stop watching anime, check my pulse I'm likely dead. I wake up with coffee & anime, I go to sleep with coffee & anime. Sorry if my sarcasm is bad, it's not my first language. |
Sep 21, 2023 3:49 PM
#15
I've tried therapy multiple times pretty much never work I just thought it was pointless and wasn't helping, so i would chose Anime but Ketamine Treatment was the most helpful for me in terms of Depression and anxiety. |
Sep 21, 2023 4:02 PM
#16
None, go get a no life exhaustive job with a 14h shift and see how you forget about your problems for a while, it might not disappear completely but it will be a better cure than anime for sure and maybe better than therapy for some people. PD: A cat can also help. |
Sep 21, 2023 4:24 PM
#17
Therapy is as functionally useless as soothsaying, but less interesting. Rather than paying a bunch of con artists to speak for you as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself; it's better to have find solace within your own psyche through rational introspection. |
Sep 21, 2023 4:40 PM
#18
Reply to Archean-Return
Therapy is as functionally useless as soothsaying, but less interesting. Rather than paying a bunch of con artists to speak for you as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself; it's better to have find solace within your own psyche through rational introspection.
Do what you find as more efficient and helpful to yourself. It also depends on what kind of problem you have, it's intensity and whether you are also taking meds to heal up that issue. Anime can be a good way of relaxing, and cheaper than looking for "a therapist that's right for you" or paying not that small amount of money to usually hear everyday life wisdom that yoi can hear from many other people, and for free. Anyway, for anxiety I recommend reading few books about how to overcome it. As for depression, it'd be the best to just visit a psychiatrist, in my opinion. That shit is nasty and I saw few of my friends suffering from it. Leaving it to therapy can result in worsening one's situation by visiting unskilled therapists who don't care much about how fragile is a person suffering from depression. Archean-Return said: Very based. Therapy can give positive results, but in reality most of therapies, or rather therapists, look pale compared to regular people comforting others or giving advices.Therapy is as functionally useless as soothsaying, but less interesting. Rather than paying a bunch of con artists to speak for you as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself; it's better to have find solace within your own psyche through rational introspection. |
Sep 21, 2023 4:56 PM
#19
But in the state of anxiety and depression, you decided to create a bot to shitpost on MyAnimuList. Where is that option? |
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Sep 21, 2023 4:57 PM
#20
"If your Anxious and Depressed: See a Therapist or Watch Anime?" How about watching anime with your therapist? |
Sep 21, 2023 4:58 PM
#21
Reply to JaniSIr
Lifting heavy things is the correct answer.
Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man.
And excessive escapism is why you are there to begin with.
Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man.
And excessive escapism is why you are there to begin with.
@JaniSIr Good point there. Therepy seems to be for the more social women generally. I doubt a sub five guy ever got useful advise from a Becky or Stacy. I remember dbdr talking about his trips to therapy and how he did not like the gaslighting involved. He even chadfished some therapists which was hilarious. No one better to solve one`s problem than oneself. |
Sep 21, 2023 5:20 PM
#22
I struggle with both. I've been to therapy multiple times and currently waiting to get back in (and back on antidepressants) due to recent personal events. A couple years ago I still watched anime while going to therapy, which helped, but now that my anxiety and depression have worsened I've lost all motivation to watch anything as of last month and I probably won't have any motivation to do so until I feel at least a little better. I'd probably say it depends on how severe it all is. |
Sep 21, 2023 6:04 PM
#23
If you mean the regular anxiety and depression then doing basically anything especially physical activities can fix that. Not the psychiatric anxiety and depression tho. THAT you have to see professionals. |
Sep 21, 2023 6:34 PM
#24
I have both and do both along with medication, 8 hours of sleep, exercise, a healthy diet and other hobbies. Not all of these are feasible for people but if you can get free therapy why not give it a try? Worst case scenario is that it doesn't work for you. Best of luck and hoping for good health for you. |
Sep 21, 2023 7:20 PM
#25
I simply sleep whenever that happens, its the most effective for me... |
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Sep 21, 2023 10:24 PM
#26
Reply to benisgu
@FriendlyPaw How did tagged mental illness content worked for you? Healed your depression or made you feel understood? Sorry if that sound aggressive, I'm genuinely wondering.
@benisgu If anything it self-acceptance to be honest. Everyone in Fruits Basket has severe Mental Illness in the show and by the Final Season they all overcame it. |
Sep 21, 2023 10:40 PM
#27
Sep 22, 2023 12:01 AM
#28
Reply to rohan121
@JaniSIr
Good point there. Therepy seems to be for the more social women generally. I doubt a sub five guy ever got useful advise from a Becky or Stacy. I remember dbdr talking about his trips to therapy and how he did not like the gaslighting involved. He even chadfished some therapists which was hilarious. No one better to solve one`s problem than oneself.
Good point there. Therepy seems to be for the more social women generally. I doubt a sub five guy ever got useful advise from a Becky or Stacy. I remember dbdr talking about his trips to therapy and how he did not like the gaslighting involved. He even chadfished some therapists which was hilarious. No one better to solve one`s problem than oneself.
@rohan121 Also apparently many people consider therapy "trending". That's an obvious red flag for the industry, you would never want to have a heart surgery if your life didn't depend on it. |
Kimochi Warui |
Sep 22, 2023 9:16 AM
#29
Sep 22, 2023 2:53 PM
#30
Reply to FriendlyPaw
@Prinzesschen I recommend Fruits Basket. I don't know if it will work for you, but it worked for me!!!
Also here:
Anime: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/tags/mental-illness
Manga: https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags/mental-illness
Also, if you can afford it Therapy is a good option too!!!
Also here:
Anime: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/tags/mental-illness
Manga: https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags/mental-illness
Also, if you can afford it Therapy is a good option too!!!
thx for the recommendation although I already saw the anime, hehe. I tried therapy too and it did help slightly but mostly it was my own power to fight it. It's important to be there for oneself no matter what happens :) |
Sep 22, 2023 3:02 PM
#31
Yes, see a therapist and watch anime with him on Netflix, chill, and you know the rest. Good luck everyone 👍 |
Sep 22, 2023 8:04 PM
#32
Escapism can't help really give you constructive help towards the long-term issues causing your mental health to be stinky. |
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Sep 22, 2023 8:07 PM
#33
Reply to JaniSIr
Lifting heavy things is the correct answer.
Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man.
And excessive escapism is why you are there to begin with.
Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man.
And excessive escapism is why you are there to begin with.
JaniSIr said: Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man. Literally what the fuck are you talking about? It's a therapist's job to help you regardless of traits like gender. If a therapist refuses to help someone on the basis of something like that, it is a breach of conduct and they can probably lose their job |
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Sep 23, 2023 9:25 AM
#34
Reply to LSSJ_Chloe
JaniSIr said:
Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man.
Therapists are unlikely to help you if you are a man.
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? It's a therapist's job to help you regardless of traits like gender. If a therapist refuses to help someone on the basis of something like that, it is a breach of conduct and they can probably lose their job
@LSSJ_Gaming It's not about them explicitly refusing, but I was curious about what this therapy thing is all about, I've been hearing too much about it online, and it really isn't a thing in my social circle, so I looked up some stuff on YouTube, and there are a bit too many red flags... 1. In some circles it's tending. 2. Mental health in the USA is worse than ever, despite all the therapy. 3. Fundamental conflict of interest of you paying a therapist and you getting better. 4. And the gender specific part is that all that talking about your feelings and such is a feminine thing, and not accounting for gender differences is bad. 5. Plus heard horror stories of guy opening up about something, and the female therapist getting mad at them. (That's a female dominated field.) Compared to all that, these stupid memes are very motivational. |
Kimochi Warui |
Sep 23, 2023 11:09 AM
#35
Reply to JaniSIr
@LSSJ_Gaming It's not about them explicitly refusing, but I was curious about what this therapy thing is all about, I've been hearing too much about it online, and it really isn't a thing in my social circle, so I looked up some stuff on YouTube, and there are a bit too many red flags...
1. In some circles it's tending.
2. Mental health in the USA is worse than ever, despite all the therapy.
3. Fundamental conflict of interest of you paying a therapist and you getting better.
4. And the gender specific part is that all that talking about your feelings and such is a feminine thing, and not accounting for gender differences is bad.
5. Plus heard horror stories of guy opening up about something, and the female therapist getting mad at them. (That's a female dominated field.)
Compared to all that, these stupid memes are very motivational.


1. In some circles it's tending.
2. Mental health in the USA is worse than ever, despite all the therapy.
3. Fundamental conflict of interest of you paying a therapist and you getting better.
4. And the gender specific part is that all that talking about your feelings and such is a feminine thing, and not accounting for gender differences is bad.
5. Plus heard horror stories of guy opening up about something, and the female therapist getting mad at them. (That's a female dominated field.)
Compared to all that, these stupid memes are very motivational.
JaniSIr said: 4. And the gender specific part is that all that talking about your feelings and such is a feminine thing, and not accounting for gender differences is bad. This is more a societal issue than anything. Being able to talk about your emotions shouldn't be restricted by gender. Same with the mental health thing. The reason mental health is down in general is due to other outside factors |
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Sep 23, 2023 11:14 AM
#36
If you are really really depressed, maybe you should see a therapist, but if you don't have money to a therapist, then watch anime. |
Sep 23, 2023 11:20 AM
#37
Therapy is a scam and a complete waste of money. They don't give any true solutions to your problem they just charge hundreds of dollars to sit there and write on a clipboard. Sure it can be nice to talk with someone about your problems but there's better solutions. |
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Sep 23, 2023 11:27 AM
#38
See the therapist and then watch anime. |
Sep 23, 2023 11:33 AM
#39
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Sep 23, 2023 11:54 AM
#40
Not therapist, but psychologist or psychiatrist. They deal with such problems. |
Sep 23, 2023 12:09 PM
#41
Reply to Archean-Return
Therapy is as functionally useless as soothsaying, but less interesting. Rather than paying a bunch of con artists to speak for you as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself; it's better to have find solace within your own psyche through rational introspection.
@Archean-Return Archean-Return said: as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself I mean, that is not uncommon. Many people who have harmful thought patterns generally lack the self-awareness that yes, there is something wrong with them. Do you honestly think people like _____ knows that the reason why they are unhappy or unfulfilled is due to their own shittiness? Sometimes, you need an outside source to tell you the objective truth or at least another perspective, because ultimately we are biased towards ourselves. A racist/sexist/asshole/etc is not going to think they are a racist/sexist/asshole/etc and thus are not going to stop being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc because they do not believe the problem lies with them being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc. @Memore It depends, but psychiatrists to my knowledge generally are a part of a healthcare team, and often the ones signing off on medication and other physical treatments. Hence why their education is almost always essentially an M.D. by another name. Therapists are generally the people talking to you during those appointments. It is not uncommon to see just a psychiatrist to sign off on medication or any of these other treatments, and they do conduct talk sessions, but this is generally not what they actually do from what I have seen. |
removed-userSep 23, 2023 12:15 PM
Sep 23, 2023 12:14 PM
#42
Reply to removed-user
@Archean-Return
I mean, that is not uncommon. Many people who have harmful thought patterns generally lack the self-awareness that yes, there is something wrong with them. Do you honestly think people like _____ knows that the reason why they are unhappy or unfulfilled is due to their own shittiness? Sometimes, you need an outside source to tell you the objective truth or at least another perspective, because ultimately we are biased towards ourselves.
A racist/sexist/asshole/etc is not going to think they are a racist/sexist/asshole/etc and thus are not going to stop being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc because they do not believe the problem lies with them being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc.
@Memore
It depends, but psychiatrists to my knowledge generally are a part of a healthcare team, and often the ones signing off on medication and other physical treatments. Hence why their education is almost always essentially an M.D. by another name. Therapists are generally the people talking to you during those appointments.
It is not uncommon to see just a psychiatrist to sign off on medication or any of these other treatments, and they do conduct talk sessions, but this is generally not what they actually do from what I have seen.
Archean-Return said:
as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself
as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself
I mean, that is not uncommon. Many people who have harmful thought patterns generally lack the self-awareness that yes, there is something wrong with them. Do you honestly think people like _____ knows that the reason why they are unhappy or unfulfilled is due to their own shittiness? Sometimes, you need an outside source to tell you the objective truth or at least another perspective, because ultimately we are biased towards ourselves.
A racist/sexist/asshole/etc is not going to think they are a racist/sexist/asshole/etc and thus are not going to stop being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc because they do not believe the problem lies with them being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc.
@Memore
It depends, but psychiatrists to my knowledge generally are a part of a healthcare team, and often the ones signing off on medication and other physical treatments. Hence why their education is almost always essentially an M.D. by another name. Therapists are generally the people talking to you during those appointments.
It is not uncommon to see just a psychiatrist to sign off on medication or any of these other treatments, and they do conduct talk sessions, but this is generally not what they actually do from what I have seen.
@PeripheralVision, no, therapists also sign treatments. I am a doctor and know about it. |
Sep 23, 2023 12:18 PM
#43
Reply to Memore
@PeripheralVision, no, therapists also sign treatments. I am a doctor and know about it.
Memore said: no, therapists also sign treatments. I am a doctor and know about it. I am not saying that they do not given their position, but they are often not the final overarching authority as most talk therapists just do not have the training/credentials/degrees for it by themselves, hence they are often apart of a larger team. Therapists is a bit of a broad term, but they are not interchangeable with psychiatrists, and the above differences I highlighted is one of if not the major differences, at least within the states. Therapists cannot prescribe medication. |
Sep 23, 2023 12:19 PM
#44
Reply to removed-user
Memore said:
no, therapists also sign treatments. I am a doctor and know about it.
no, therapists also sign treatments. I am a doctor and know about it.
I am not saying that they do not given their position, but they are often not the final overarching authority as most talk therapists just do not have the training/credentials/degrees for it by themselves, hence they are often apart of a larger team.
Therapists is a bit of a broad term, but they are not interchangeable with psychiatrists, and the above differences I highlighted is one of if not the major differences, at least within the states. Therapists cannot prescribe medication.
@PeripheralVision, you are right in that, I agree. |
Sep 23, 2023 1:14 PM
#45
Reply to LSSJ_Chloe
JaniSIr said:
4. And the gender specific part is that all that talking about your feelings and such is a feminine thing, and not accounting for gender differences is bad.
4. And the gender specific part is that all that talking about your feelings and such is a feminine thing, and not accounting for gender differences is bad.
This is more a societal issue than anything. Being able to talk about your emotions shouldn't be restricted by gender. Same with the mental health thing. The reason mental health is down in general is due to other outside factors
@LSSJ_Gaming The one societal issue is that men are expected to talk about their feelings, even though they are not particularly into that, keeping emotionally strong is a key part of being a man. There are things that men and women do differently in general, and in recent times there is an expectation for men to be feminine, and women to be masculine, which is totally backwards... You know, if you want to help men with mental health adjust the way therapy is done for them, instead of expecting them to talk about their feelings which they may have never done before. However there is one unrelated scenario where men should be allowed to talk about their feelings, and that was reading those stories where men were left by their partner after showing weakness once, because their mom died for example... |
Kimochi Warui |
Sep 23, 2023 1:24 PM
#46
Reply to removed-user
@Archean-Return
I mean, that is not uncommon. Many people who have harmful thought patterns generally lack the self-awareness that yes, there is something wrong with them. Do you honestly think people like _____ knows that the reason why they are unhappy or unfulfilled is due to their own shittiness? Sometimes, you need an outside source to tell you the objective truth or at least another perspective, because ultimately we are biased towards ourselves.
A racist/sexist/asshole/etc is not going to think they are a racist/sexist/asshole/etc and thus are not going to stop being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc because they do not believe the problem lies with them being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc.
@Memore
It depends, but psychiatrists to my knowledge generally are a part of a healthcare team, and often the ones signing off on medication and other physical treatments. Hence why their education is almost always essentially an M.D. by another name. Therapists are generally the people talking to you during those appointments.
It is not uncommon to see just a psychiatrist to sign off on medication or any of these other treatments, and they do conduct talk sessions, but this is generally not what they actually do from what I have seen.
Archean-Return said:
as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself
as if they have a better understanding of your own mind than you do yourself
I mean, that is not uncommon. Many people who have harmful thought patterns generally lack the self-awareness that yes, there is something wrong with them. Do you honestly think people like _____ knows that the reason why they are unhappy or unfulfilled is due to their own shittiness? Sometimes, you need an outside source to tell you the objective truth or at least another perspective, because ultimately we are biased towards ourselves.
A racist/sexist/asshole/etc is not going to think they are a racist/sexist/asshole/etc and thus are not going to stop being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc because they do not believe the problem lies with them being a racist/sexist/asshole/etc.
@Memore
It depends, but psychiatrists to my knowledge generally are a part of a healthcare team, and often the ones signing off on medication and other physical treatments. Hence why their education is almost always essentially an M.D. by another name. Therapists are generally the people talking to you during those appointments.
It is not uncommon to see just a psychiatrist to sign off on medication or any of these other treatments, and they do conduct talk sessions, but this is generally not what they actually do from what I have seen.
@PeripheralVision "Harmful thought patterns" is subjective, usually coming down to being a convenient buzzword the "politically minded" use to stereotype those they disagree with by categorising them as dormant criminals. Those who are unhappy or unfulfilled due to being stubborn over something are unlikely to visit a therapist to begin with, and are even less likely to have the therapist tell them the objective truth, since the chances of a therapist approximating the truth about the psychological intricacies of another person are as infinitesimal as the chances of anyone else doing the same. It is impossible for someone else to understand the psyche of a person more than they do themselves. In fact, yielding to another individual and allowing them to speak for you could be seen as a harmful and mentally submissive gesture that gives away a lack of confidence in one's own mind. The outside perspective of a therapist originates from a similarly biased projection of their own mentality, after all. Developing a more nuanced character is something that occurs on its own following continued time living with your brain inside your head, and the experience of your own psyche that invariably comes with it is all you need to be content with yourself. If they cannot ever content themselves with their own psychology despite all that, then their brain is fundamentally flawed on a chemical level, in which case no amount of therapy is going to make a difference. |
Sep 23, 2023 5:07 PM
#47
@Archean-Return There is a couple of things I am going to address. Those who are unhappy or unfulfilled due to being stubborn over something are unlikely to visit a therapist to begin with, and are even less likely to have the therapist tell them the objective truth, since the chances of a therapist approximating the truth about the psychological intricacies of another person are as infinitesimal as the chances of anyone else doing the same. Not necessarily. There are many factors regarding how, why, and when people with issues in their lives may go to therapy, but they are all varied, and having a culture that does not stigmatize going to seek mental health help makes one more likely to go to a therapist. Someone who may be stubbornly narcissist may go to a therapist not because they see something wrong with them, but something wrong with their lives, and of course may initially seek the validation of an external source like a therapist. Maybe someone with difficulties stemming from trauma may go to a therapist and learn that they may have PTSD, or a child having difficulty in the classroom may be seen by a school therapist and be diagnosed with ASD. Other times therapies like anger management are mandated by a court or other governing body, or apart of an organization to serve goals like say various armed forces. I suppose it is similar to going to a general practicioner or a Podiatrist and having another issue identified. Other times, people do have some semblance of self-awareness, so I am painting it with broad strokes here regarding how people go to therapy. Though I will say mental health encompasses more than simply having a talk therapist; for example, many support groups for soldiers are known to be extremely healthy when combating the effects of PTSD, and these are often lead and "moderated" by those with a degree in these fields. In short, you are being too dismissive of someone of these fields, and necessarily not due to any scientific issues based on whatever expertise you have, you are just not knowledgeable enough to even discredit them properly. It is a medical field after all, and unlike say a random person on the street, are generally trained to ask the right questions or identify what disorders, be it mood or as you would say "fundamentally flawed on a chemical level", something the average person cannot do. This is before we can address psychiatrists and their whole deal. It is impossible for someone else to understand the psyche of a person more than they do themselves. In fact, yielding to another individual and allowing them to speak for you could be seen as a harmful and mentally submissive gesture that gives away a lack of confidence in one's own mind. Unfortunately, it is these types of statements that stigmatize mental health in the first place under the guidance of individuality or what have you. People should be more amenable and be able to defer to the expertise of others when appropriate. There is a balance between the extremes of trusting in authority blindly and rejecting it outright. I'd argue that for many folks, this is a skill we all have to learn how to cultivate. While it is not wrong to say people should not defer to authorities and others 100 percent of the time, not every event of deference to others should be categorize as such. In any case, your previous statement on knowing ourselves better is just false. How can you reconcile a statement like "It is impossible for someone else to understand the psyche of a person more than they do themselves" while also acknowledging the statement that people are able to become unhappy and unfulfilled as a result of their own thought patterns? Can you honestly say a bigot is going to recognize their bigotry, that they know themselves better, than say someone who can recognize that bigotry and says to said person "you need help"? If they cannot ever content themselves with their own psychology despite all that, then their brain is fundamentally flawed on a chemical level, in which case no amount of therapy is going to make a difference Yeah...not quite. It is not that anything external in our environment, such as talking to a therapist or to friends or seeing a movie, cannot impart any physical changes to the brain or anything. That was sarcasm by the way. While you are sort of correct that there are some disorders and conditions like this, this presupposes that external stimuli has no affect on brain chemistry, and that obviously should not be true either. It depends on the client, but some people see both a therapist and a psychiatrist (The latter is generally the person who can prescribe medication in coordination with a therapist who you generally would hold a talk session with), some people see only one or the other. Our knowledge of the brain is still pretty rudimentary, but it wasn't until a few years ago, maybe within the last two decades, that it was discovered that adult neurogenesis or perhaps neurogeneration were existing phenomena. Or in short? Even talking can be helpful for these "chemically flawed" disorders you speak of, surprisingly. JaniSIr said: Mental health in the USA is worse than ever, despite all the therapy. Honestly Jan? I would argue that this fact is not because mental health is ineffective, but because our mental health is actually getting worst, thus the huge emphasis on receiving it. In addition, pro-mental health has probably caused many more people to go to therapy that should have ideally been going to therapy in the first place, but yeah. As gung-ho as I am about mental health help, I also will acknowledge that it is fundamentally limited by many things, such as lifestyle. Not that I am poor, but I imagine if I were, being distressed would be a pretty logical response to being poor. With how society is going due to the housing crisis, stagnating wages, and Twitter vitriol, and I'd venture a claim and say that the world we live in is in some ways mentally more taxing than that of previous generations. Mental health help does work for many people, but it also cannot substitute or necessarily fix issues like poverty or undo trauma from violent crime. Or the fact our life is in the gutter due to a lifetime of anime. |
removed-userSep 23, 2023 5:15 PM
Sep 23, 2023 5:22 PM
#48
Anyone saying anime has got to be under the age of like 15. No media can ever help you in the same way a professional can. Any "help" you get out of media is not fixing your problems, it's a distraction that only works for so long and you never actually get any better. |
死人に口なし |
Sep 23, 2023 5:36 PM
#49
I cant say this as someone currently taking a bunch of medicine against depression. Therapist is bullshit. It's someone that takes you money and does nothing. That's who the normal once is that are connected to hospitals in Sweden. if you want a good one, you need a privite one and they are cost the same as a hospital visit does in USA. What do help is medicne and i doubt anything else works. Depression is shit, the feeling you have in your stomach is horrible, the feelings and thought you have is something you thought would never think of. Anime is not something that will cure you, but it exist, it's there, it's there to make you feel a tiny bit better and put a smile on your face. Anime can can't cure you and it never will, but it can put a smile on your face and make you actually smile. It's there and having like a Waifu is great too, well in my case it was. It's fiction that actually make me a bit happy and i'm rather sure it's thanks to Anime that i'm still alive. It's there and I think that's a really important factor. A therapist will most likely just take your money and talk to you like your parents or grandparents would. I don't know how i will come out of my depression but it's still there and it's hell. But i'm thankful to Anime as it's there fr me. |
Sep 23, 2023 5:41 PM
#50
Reply to Trimethylglycine
Anyone saying anime has got to be under the age of like 15. No media can ever help you in the same way a professional can. Any "help" you get out of media is not fixing your problems, it's a distraction that only works for so long and you never actually get any better.
@Trimethylglycine You clearly haven't been in hell and that's very noticeable based on what you wrote. Most therapist is just a scammed as i have talked with a few through my life and there is nothing they can do or even can help you with. They are just blowing air into your face, for huge amount of money. I talked with one for over 6 month''s my money would have been better spent thrown in the sea then that. |
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