| I recently tested the free trial of both Crunchyroll and Funimation, I didn't expect them to be good but holy shit I didn't expect them to be THAT bad either. First thing I noticed was that they both block my VPN provider for whatever reason, I mean you literally pay for the service so why would they ever lock you out from using it? Anyway, I got at least Crunchy to work somehow and then noticed just how clunky the site feels, everything needs forever to load, buttons don't react etc. Now I know that illegal streaming sites use a lot more scripts but for some reason they still work a lot smoother than the legal alternatives, don't know if Crunchy just uses a lot of unoptimized scripts or just has slow servers but I don't often see websites that are this slow. But what really hits the nail is the absolute awful player they use, like what the fuck is this shit? Videos buffer forever, they randomly switch quality mid episode AND THEN BUFFER AGAIN. Literally unusable, it wouldn't even be a problem if they'd let you choose servers like almost every illegal streaming site does it. (And no, it's not just my internet connection, because it works perfectly fine on every other streaming site). Look, this is how a proper streaming UI should look like in 2023:  And not this useless shit that Crunchy is giving us which is literally just a single play button. The streaming quality is the same as on every other illegal streaming site, I don't know why people still believe that legal streaming sites have better video quality, they don't. And don't get me started on the variety of anime available, Crunchy has just over 1k anime, illegal streaming sites have over 12k anime available. I know it costs money to get licenses but I wanna watch the anime that I want and not the ones that Crunchy has. You'd think with all the sheep bringing in their money they'd have enough to pay for proper developers and servers but this is just pathetic. I'd not even use Crunchy if it was completely free. Why do people do this to themselves? Do they just not know better alternatives or do they believe they are supporting the creators of anime or do they just like to suffer? If you want to support the creators you might as well just watch it on an illegal streaming site and import some blurays/merch that would actually support them unlike Crunchy which only supports the greed of some American investors. tldr: I tested Crunchy and it's worse than illegal streaming sites in every single aspect and I don't understand why people willingly use it and even pay money for it. |
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ateks said: 12K anime on a streaming site? I think someone is pulling your leg. Because a 1K anime episode can be anywhere from couple hundred megabytes to over a gig depending on the codec used. I would hate to see how big a 12K anime episode would be and what kind of bandwidth a streaming site would be needed for that. Do they even make actual 12K anime, no up-scaled?I recently tested the free trial of both Crunchyroll and Funimation, I didn't expect them to be good but holy shit I didn't expect them to be THAT bad either. First thing I noticed was that they both block my VPN provider for whatever reason, I mean you literally pay for the service so why would they ever lock you out from using it? Anyway, I got at least Crunchy to work somehow and then noticed just how clunky the site feels, everything needs forever to load, buttons don't react etc. Now I know that illegal streaming sites use a lot more scripts but for some reason they still work a lot smoother than the legal alternatives, don't know if Crunchy just uses a lot of unoptimized scripts or just has slow servers but I don't often see websites that are this slow. But what really hits the nail is the absolute awful player they use, like what the fuck is this shit? Videos buffer forever, they randomly switch quality mid episode AND THEN BUFFER AGAIN. Literally unusable, it wouldn't even be a problem if they'd let you choose servers like almost every illegal streaming site does it. (And no, it's not just my internet connection, because it works perfectly fine on every other streaming site). Look, this is how a proper streaming UI should look like in 2023: And not this useless shit that Crunchy is giving us which is literally just a single play button. The streaming quality is the same as on every other illegal streaming site, I don't know why people still believe that legal streaming sites have better video quality, they don't. And don't get me started on the variety of anime available, Crunchy has just over 1k anime, illegal streaming sites have over 12k anime available. I know it costs money to get licenses but I wanna watch the anime that I want and not the ones that Crunchy has. You'd think with all the sheep bringing in their money they'd have enough to pay for proper developers and servers but this is just pathetic. I'd not even use Crunchy if it was completely free. Why do people do this to themselves? Do they just not know better alternatives or do they believe they are supporting the creators of anime or do they just like to suffer? If you want to support the creators you might as well just watch it on an illegal streaming site and import some blurays/merch that would actually support them unlike Crunchy which only supports the greed of some American investors. tldr: I tested Crunchy and it's worse than illegal streaming sites in every single aspect and I don't understand why people willingly use it and even pay money for it. The quality on the crunchyroll and funimation might be lousy because you are using free trial. I don't have a funimation or crunchyroll membership, but based on using free trials in the past of different programs the features are usually restricted. As for restricting the use of your VPN those licensing agreements say where they can and can't see or stream anime. |
ezikialrage said: They mean that on illegal sites there are around 12,000 anime available to watch compared to Crunchy's 1,000ateks said: 12K anime on a streaming site? I think someone is pulling your leg. Because a 1K anime episode can be anywhere from couple hundred megabytes to over a gig depending on the codec used. I would hate to see how big a 12K anime episode would be and what kind of bandwidth a streaming site would be needed for that. Do they even make actual 12K anime, no up-scaled?I recently tested the free trial of both Crunchyroll and Funimation, I didn't expect them to be good but holy shit I didn't expect them to be THAT bad either. First thing I noticed was that they both block my VPN provider for whatever reason, I mean you literally pay for the service so why would they ever lock you out from using it? Anyway, I got at least Crunchy to work somehow and then noticed just how clunky the site feels, everything needs forever to load, buttons don't react etc. Now I know that illegal streaming sites use a lot more scripts but for some reason they still work a lot smoother than the legal alternatives, don't know if Crunchy just uses a lot of unoptimized scripts or just has slow servers but I don't often see websites that are this slow. But what really hits the nail is the absolute awful player they use, like what the fuck is this shit? Videos buffer forever, they randomly switch quality mid episode AND THEN BUFFER AGAIN. Literally unusable, it wouldn't even be a problem if they'd let you choose servers like almost every illegal streaming site does it. (And no, it's not just my internet connection, because it works perfectly fine on every other streaming site). Look, this is how a proper streaming UI should look like in 2023: And not this useless shit that Crunchy is giving us which is literally just a single play button. The streaming quality is the same as on every other illegal streaming site, I don't know why people still believe that legal streaming sites have better video quality, they don't. And don't get me started on the variety of anime available, Crunchy has just over 1k anime, illegal streaming sites have over 12k anime available. I know it costs money to get licenses but I wanna watch the anime that I want and not the ones that Crunchy has. You'd think with all the sheep bringing in their money they'd have enough to pay for proper developers and servers but this is just pathetic. I'd not even use Crunchy if it was completely free. Why do people do this to themselves? Do they just not know better alternatives or do they believe they are supporting the creators of anime or do they just like to suffer? If you want to support the creators you might as well just watch it on an illegal streaming site and import some blurays/merch that would actually support them unlike Crunchy which only supports the greed of some American investors. tldr: I tested Crunchy and it's worse than illegal streaming sites in every single aspect and I don't understand why people willingly use it and even pay money for it. The quality on the crunchyroll and funimation might be lousy because you are using free trial. I don't have a funimation or crunchyroll membership, but based on using free trials in the past of different programs the features are usually restricted. As for restricting the use of your VPN those licensing agreements say where they can and can't see or stream anime. |
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| Exactly why I will not buy a subscription to anime sites. Free sites that got shut down like Master and Animix had great features that no other site has had including free and paid sites. One function Master had was that there was a feed that would automatically update to see what your friends were watching after they finished an episode. Master also had a recommendation system based on your preferences that was surprisingly good. Animix had a page (and maybe master as well but I can't remember) where all of the anime you were currently watching would be and it would say when there was a new episode for it. That made watching seasonals so much better. Free sites generally look and function better than paid sites as well. I would not mind paying for a subscription, but I'd be wasting money if I bought one right now. |
| I pay for crunchyroll because I like having it on my TV and Kodi is a pain in the ass. I've expirienced a lot of input lag but the streaming itself has never been an issue for me. I still use the same site you are for things not on Crunchyroll and there are things I don't like about it aswell. The search funtion just isn't as good, you have to be really specific or you won't find what you're looking for. I don't like that it signs me out more often than other streaming services. And until I installed a second adblock that works differently from my old one I'd sometimes get one of those ads that opens an new tab when you press the play button. I by no means like crunchyroll or their developers. I was a longtime user of their sister service VRV, which they themselves created and they essentially abandoned us. Especially the free users, as their ad service would break and since ads wouldn't load they'd never be marked as complete so you couldn't watch the show. But the subscription did come with one to crunchyroll so I decided to use that instead. I think the idea of supporting anime studios as a westerner is weird? Is any of my subscription money going to them? I doubt it. Doesn't Crunchyroll just pay for the liscenses and then they're done? I could buy merch but that's the same problem. I could buy physical versions but what would I even use to play them? Even if I physically send them money through the mail what use do they have for US currency? Still I like that atleast with the crunchyroll model, even the things that were dogshit still make the money spent to license them. If it was left to me what I did and didn't support I would only ever give money to my absolute favorite things. But that's not how an industry works. If only the absolute biggest and best things made money where would people learn how to make those things? Where would the incentive to experiment go? What about things that I personally love but most people don't, or maybe haven't even heard of? And if these sites go away would we just be back to the fan subs era? No thanks that sounds horrible. |
| Been torrenting for like ten years now. Still get best quality available, has far more options than legal sites, and can watch offline without the worry of shitty buffering. Watched One Piece on Crunchyroll way back, haven't visited it since. |
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ezikialrage said: Crunchyroll trial/paid subscription/free does not differ streaming qualities, same with Funimation. I tried all of these and there were no difference in the qualityThe quality on the crunchyroll and funimation might be lousy because you are using free trial. I don't have a funimation or crunchyroll membership, but based on using free trials in the past of different programs the features are usually restricted. As for restricting the use of your VPN those licensing agreements say where they can and can't see or stream anime. |
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| Still waiting for that day when illegal streaming sites will have everything in 1080p, which they don't.... Funny cause I've never ever have experienced buffering while using Cr, not once, with Hidive I have but not with Cr. I do remember experiencing buffering while using gogo and 9anime tho, as well as bunch of anime there not being 1080p... The buffering you experience is probably because of the vpn, cause whenever I use a vpn the same thing happens to me. |
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Jamison2210 said: ezikialrage said: They mean that on illegal sites there are around 12,000 anime available to watch compared to Crunchy's 1,000 12K anime on a streaming site? I think someone is pulling your leg. Because a 1K anime episode can be anywhere from couple hundred megabytes to over a gig depending on the codec used. I would hate to see how big a 12K anime episode would be and what kind of bandwidth a streaming site would be needed for that. Do they even make actual 12K anime, no up-scaled? The quality on the crunchyroll and funimation might be lousy because you are using free trial. I don't have a funimation or crunchyroll membership, but based on using free trials in the past of different programs the features are usually restricted. As for restricting the use of your VPN those licensing agreements say where they can and can't see or stream anime. Doesn't matter how many titles they offer when they are streaming ripped copies of Anime ripped from official streaming sites or ripped from torrents. Illegal streaming Sites offer 3rd even 4th generation copies of this medium when they stream them. I am personally not going to waste my time watching an entire series from the 80s, 90s, or even 2000s and beyond with a lame watermark on it advertising their illegal site either. Audio is noticeably degraded and the picture quality is beyond subpar. If this is how a majority of the new generation of online Anime fans are consuming their Anime, it's no wonder why they would think Anime from the 80s and 90s and even before 2010 would seems like it's crap to them. |
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ColourWheel said: Jamison2210 said: They mean that on illegal sites there are around 12,000 anime available to watch compared to Crunchy's 1,000 Doesn't matter how many titles they offer when they are streaming ripped copies of Anime ripped from official streaming sites or ripped from torrents. Illegal streaming Sites offer 3rd even 4th generation copies of this medium when they stream them. I am personally not going to waste my time watching an entire series from the 80s, 90s, or even 2000s and beyond with a lame watermark on it advertising their illegal site either. Audio is noticably degrated and the picture quality is beyond subpar. If this is how a majority of the new generation of online Anime fans are consuming their Anime, it's no wonder why they would think Anime from the 80s and 90s and even before 2010 would seems like it's crap to them. You are missing out on some of the best anime has to offer, even if it's at a garbage resolution. You aren't really experiencing anime if you watch above 480p. |
| I pirate when I need to but also have both a Crunchyroll and Hidive subscription. I can afford it and like the convenience of watching things on my 70 inch TV in 1080p in full surround. Yeah the UI's suck(especially Hidive's) but the buffering problem definitely sounds like it's on your end, never once had that issue. |
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ggultra2764 said: If there's a benefit to illegal streaming of anime being an American fan, it allows you the opportunity to see a good number of older or niche titles that have either been long out of print and too hard to get a physical release of or have never seen the light of day in the states. Whether its due to lack of popularity and appeal or some sort of licensing conflicts preventing a series from getting licensed (Harmony Gold with the Macross franchise for decades until recently, for example), I think piracy still its relevance to draw fans to potential hidden gems that may have been overlooked by licensors due to an assumed lack of interest from international audiences. Agreed, that's why I still pirate a fair amount |
JaniSIr said: ColourWheel said: Doesn't matter how many titles they offer when they are streaming ripped copies of Anime ripped from official streaming sites or ripped from torrents. Illegal streaming Sites offer 3rd even 4th generation copies of this medium when they stream them. I am personally not going to waste my time watching an entire series from the 80s, 90s, or even 2000s and beyond with a lame watermark on it advertising their illegal site either. Audio is noticably degrated and the picture quality is beyond subpar. If this is how a majority of the new generation of online Anime fans are consuming their Anime, it's no wonder why they would think Anime from the 80s and 90s and even before 2010 would seems like it's crap to them. You are missing out on some of the best anime has to offer, even if it's at a garbage resolution. You aren't really experiencing anime if you watch above 480p. Watching 3rd or 4th generation copy of an Anime produced before 2010 streaming in 480p is basically like watching it 15 meters away on a 32" TV through a glass window outside of the house that is barely cracked open so you can at least hear the audio clearly. |
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Cestlavie_ said: Get a better VPN, the one problem I have with Crunchyroll is that a lot of their shows are rejoin locked to US , UK and Canada so I use a VPN to watch them and it works all the time No thanks I don't want to change my VPN just because a single website decides to be shit. Curdiss said: I pay for crunchyroll because I like having it on my TV and Kodi is a pain in the ass. I've expirienced a lot of input lag but the streaming itself has never been an issue for me. I don't know your setup but why not just stream it from your phone to your TV? MadanielFL said: Still waiting for that day when illegal streaming sites will have everything in 1080p, which they don't.... Funny cause I've never ever have experienced buffering while using Cr, not once, with Hidive I have but not with Cr. I do remember experiencing buffering while using gogo and 9anime tho, as well as bunch of anime there not being 1080p... The buffering you experience is probably because of the vpn, cause whenever I use a vpn the same thing happens to me. How much you talk and how little you know...  If you knew anything about video quality you would know that this is just upscaled 720p anyway, both on Crunchy and illegal streaming sites. You have 5 or more different sources to choose from on gogo and 9anime, I HIGHLY doubt they were all buffering for you, if they did then surely something is wrong with your internet connection. And no the buffering is not my VPN as I already mentioned, I can stream 4K on other platforms perfectly fine without any buffering. |
ColourWheel said: JaniSIr said: You are missing out on some of the best anime has to offer, even if it's at a garbage resolution. You aren't really experiencing anime if you watch above 480p. Watching 3rd or 4th generation copy of an Anime produced before 2010 streaming in 480p is basically like watching it 15 meters away on a 32" TV through a glass window outside of the house that is barely cracked open so you can atleast hear the audio clearly. It's not that bad. It'd be really garbage for live action, but the animators favorite tool is the paint bucket... |
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JaniSIr said: I might be exaggerating but it's to give perspective on how inferior the quality of an Anime can be ripped from formats that were never intended to be converted digitally to begin with. As an example "Suikoden Demon Century" as far as I know has only been released on Laserdisc and VHS. I recently watched an actual copy of the Anime on Laserdisc when I got lucky and found it recently at a yard sale. I wanted to check out the quality difference so I visited a questionable site streaming it. The site was streaming a ripped copy of a Laserdisc or VHS so it had to be at least a 4th generation copy (of course they got to add an extra copy generation because of the dumb watermark just to advertise their illegal site). The picture was beyond choppy and every scene where there was camera motion it would stutter. I won't even get into the audio quality either because it was beyond shotty. Basically to me it was unwatchable on the site I visited to make any positive comparison.ColourWheel said: Watching 3rd or 4th generation copy of an Anime produced before 2010 streaming in 480p is basically like watching it 15 meters away on a 32" TV through a glass window outside of the house that is barely cracked open so you can atleast hear the audio clearly. It's not that bad. It'd be really garbage for live action, but the animators favorite tool is the paint bucket... |
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ateks said: Here's something you probably don't know. Online video players don't actually buffer what it shows on the bar. It's an estimation. It didn't actually buffer in the first place. And my guess is that paid video services don't buffer because the buffer has to be stored somewhere in the memory of your local computer, making it easier for a pirate to dump into a file to copy from the source (probably something along the lines of what Horrible Subs does, though again just guessing). That's why the service is worse compared to an illegal site that has no issue buffering because the license isn't at stake. Illegal sites don't care if you copy their content as long as the ads get played and they get their PPI (pay per impression) ad money.AND THEN BUFFER AGAIN. |
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ateks said: Funny how it sometimes doesn't give me this option...MadanielFL said: Still waiting for that day when illegal streaming sites will have everything in 1080p, which they don't.... Funny cause I've never ever have experienced buffering while using Cr, not once, with Hidive I have but not with Cr. I do remember experiencing buffering while using gogo and 9anime tho, as well as bunch of anime there not being 1080p... The buffering you experience is probably because of the vpn, cause whenever I use a vpn the same thing happens to me. How much you talk and how little you know... If you knew anything about video quality you would know that this is just upscaled 720p anyway, both on Crunchy and illegal streaming sites. You have 5 or more different sources to choose from on gogo and 9anime, I HIGHLY doubt they were all buffering for you, if they did then surely something is wrong with your internet connection. And no the buffering is not my VPN as I already mentioned, I can stream 4K on other platforms perfectly fine without any buffering.  And how come Cr never buffers me? I was literally watching Tomo-chan today and no buffer whatsover. Yet I have experienced buffer in some pirate sites, not saying all of them buffer of course, but that some surely do. And it's funny how even more experienced anime pirates know Crunchyroll has the best quality streams. They know pirate sites like to compress their videos to save space, and therefore the quality is not always the best, Summertime Render fansubs were a prime example. Of course Torrents are different. |
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MadanielFL said: And how come Cr never buffers me? I was literally watching Tomo-chan today and no buffer whatsover. Yet I have experienced buffer in some pirate sites, not saying all of them buffer of course, but that some surely do. And it's funny how even more experienced anime pirates know Crunchyroll has the best quality streams. j They know pirate sites like to compress their videos to save space, and therefore the quality is not always the best, Summertime Render fansubs were a prime example. Of course Torrents are different. You do realize Crunchyroll is also a streaming website and does the exact same? It's the same algorithms, it's the same compression rate, it's the same snake oil fake 1080p just to satisfy viewers like you who don't know about upscaling. |
ateks said: Nope, clearly not lolMadanielFL said: And how come Cr never buffers me? I was literally watching Tomo-chan today and no buffer whatsover. Yet I have experienced buffer in some pirate sites, not saying all of them buffer of course, but that some surely do. And it's funny how even more experienced anime pirates know Crunchyroll has the best quality streams. j They know pirate sites like to compress their videos to save space, and therefore the quality is not always the best, Summertime Render fansubs were a prime example. Of course Torrents are different. You do realize Crunchyroll is also a streaming website and does the exact same? It's the same algorithms, it's the same compression rate, it's the same snake oil fake 1080p just to satisfy viewers like you who don't know about upscaling. Didn't you see the anime pirates from Reddit basically admitting that Crunchyroll has the best quality streams? If Crunchyroll compress their videos, then imagine how bad it would be when anime pirates steal that video from Crunchyroll and compress it even more... Unless you think anime pirates get their videos directly from the source given to them by the Japanese producers themselves...? |
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MadanielFL said: You're absolutely clueless if you think any streaming site doesn't compress video. Uncompressed video doesn't even exist, period. It doesn't matter that you found a rando in a thread somewhere with literally 1 poster to pimp CR. It's just an easy source for subbers to get access to video if they don't have Japanese contacts.And it's funny how even more experienced anime pirates know Crunchyroll has the best quality streams. They know pirate sites like to compress their videos to save space, and therefore the quality is not always the best, Summertime Render fansubs were a prime example. Of course Torrents are different. |
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MadanielFL said: ateks said: Nope, clearly not lolYou do realize Crunchyroll is also a streaming website and does the exact same? It's the same algorithms, it's the same compression rate, it's the same snake oil fake 1080p just to satisfy viewers like you who don't know about upscaling. Didn't you see the anime pirates from Reddit basically admitting that Crunchyroll has the best quality streams? If Crunchyroll compress their videos, then imagine how bad it would be when anime pirates steal that video from Crunchyroll and compress it even more... Unless you think anime pirates get their videos directly from the source given to them by the Japanese producers themselves...? Yeah because some plebs on reddit are the experts. Your post already tells me that you clearly don't even know the basics of how compression works. |
MadanielFL said: Yeah, it might be slightly worse, but you're overestimating how much that matters. No one is going to streaming sites to play it on a projector with unrealistic expectations. The fact that you can't tell CR is compressed proves that properly done compression doesn't detract much from the experience. If you press pause and whip out a microscope you could see it, but no one does that.If Crunchyroll compress their videos, then imagine how bad it would be when anime pirates steal that video from Crunchyroll and compress it even more... |
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ateks said: Cestlavie_ said: Get a better VPN, the one problem I have with Crunchyroll is that a lot of their shows are rejoin locked to US , UK and Canada so I use a VPN to watch them and it works all the time No thanks I don't want to change my VPN just because a single website decides to be shit. Curdiss said: I pay for crunchyroll because I like having it on my TV and Kodi is a pain in the ass. I've expirienced a lot of input lag but the streaming itself has never been an issue for me. I don't know your setup but why not just stream it from your phone to your TV? MadanielFL said: Still waiting for that day when illegal streaming sites will have everything in 1080p, which they don't.... Funny cause I've never ever have experienced buffering while using Cr, not once, with Hidive I have but not with Cr. I do remember experiencing buffering while using gogo and 9anime tho, as well as bunch of anime there not being 1080p... The buffering you experience is probably because of the vpn, cause whenever I use a vpn the same thing happens to me. How much you talk and how little you know... If you knew anything about video quality you would know that this is just upscaled 720p anyway, both on Crunchy and illegal streaming sites. You have 5 or more different sources to choose from on gogo and 9anime, I HIGHLY doubt they were all buffering for you, if they did then surely something is wrong with your internet connection. And no the buffering is not my VPN as I already mentioned, I can stream 4K on other platforms perfectly fine without any buffering. Casting sucks. I prefer to use the firestick instead of the tv's inbuilt computer so casting would require me to familiarize myself with andriod smart tv and it's not worth it to me because Kodi only works on firestick so it's always what i'm going to use by default. |
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katsucats said: Well I never said they don't compress their videos, more so that videos on pirate sites are EVEN MORE compressed, like I said Summertime Render fansubs are a prime example with the pixelated image.MadanielFL said: Yeah, it might be slightly worse, but you're overestimating how much that matters. No one is going to streaming sites to play it on a projector with unrealistic expectations. The fact that you can't tell CR is compressed proves that properly done compression doesn't detract much from the experience. If you press pause and whip out a microscope you could see it, but no one does that.If Crunchyroll compress their videos, then imagine how bad it would be when anime pirates steal that video from Crunchyroll and compress it even more... Obviously the quality for most shows is almost the exact same on both. But people act like the quality on pirate sites are somehow better, when in reality they are mostly the same if not worse. ateks said: Ah yes because compressing a compressed video even more will get you great results. MadanielFL said: Nope, clearly not lol Didn't you see the anime pirates from Reddit basically admitting that Crunchyroll has the best quality streams? If Crunchyroll compress their videos, then imagine how bad it would be when anime pirates steal that video from Crunchyroll and compress it even more... Unless you think anime pirates get their videos directly from the source given to them by the Japanese producers themselves...? Yeah because some plebs on reddit are the experts. Your post already tells me that you clearly don't even know the basics of how compression works. |
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ColourWheel said: Does it occur to you at all that Laserdisk is a premium format. Specifically for people who care about quality above cost. It's the vinyl of visual media. Like I get that a few sites are shit but consider that the shows being ripped from legal sites are all of equivalent quality to those sites. That complaint is hyperspecific to older shows and while those shows still matter over HALF of all tv anime released after 2009.JaniSIr said: I might be exaggerating but it's to give perspective on how inferior the quality of an Anime can be ripped from formats that were never intended to be converted digitally to begin with. As an example "Suikoden Demon Century" as far as I know has only been released on Laserdisc and VHS. I recently watched an actual copy of the Anime on Laserdisc when I got lucky and found it recently at a yard sale. I wanted to check out the quality difference so I visited a questionable site streaming it. The site was streaming a ripped copy of a Laserdisc or VHS so it had to be at least a 4th generation copy (of course they got to add an extra copy generation because of the dumb watermark just to advertise their illegal site). The picture was beyond choppy and every scene where there was camera motion it would stutter. I won't even get into the audio quality either because it was beyond shotty. Basically to me it was unwatchable on the site I visited to make any positive comparison.It's not that bad. It'd be really garbage for live action, but the animators favorite tool is the paint bucket... Source |
MadanielFL said: I just wanted to say, as someone who lives sort of in the middle of nowhere (I'm 30 minutes from the nearest city, but my small town also has a 24hr grocery so make of that what you will) I've experienced pretty bad bufferring on both sites in question, Crunchyroll and 9anime. But not even a little on either in the past month.ateks said: Funny how it sometimes doesn't give me this option...How much you talk and how little you know... If you knew anything about video quality you would know that this is just upscaled 720p anyway, both on Crunchy and illegal streaming sites. You have 5 or more different sources to choose from on gogo and 9anime, I HIGHLY doubt they were all buffering for you, if they did then surely something is wrong with your internet connection. And no the buffering is not my VPN as I already mentioned, I can stream 4K on other platforms perfectly fine without any buffering. And how come Cr never buffers me? I was literally watching Tomo-chan today and no buffer whatsover. Yet I have experienced buffer in some pirate sites, not saying all of them buffer of course, but that some surely do. And it's funny how even more experienced anime pirates know Crunchyroll has the best quality streams. They know pirate sites like to compress their videos to save space, and therefore the quality is not always the best, Summertime Render fansubs were a prime example. Of course Torrents are different. |
MadanielFL said: Why are u using pirates on Reddit as a point to prove how comression works on anime streaming.ateks said: Nope, clearly not lolYou do realize Crunchyroll is also a streaming website and does the exact same? It's the same algorithms, it's the same compression rate, it's the same snake oil fake 1080p just to satisfy viewers like you who don't know about upscaling. Didn't you see the anime pirates from Reddit basically admitting that Crunchyroll has the best quality streams? If Crunchyroll compress their videos, then imagine how bad it would be when anime pirates steal that video from Crunchyroll and compress it even more... Unless you think anime pirates get their videos directly from the source given to them by the Japanese producers themselves...? |
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NotT5J said: It's to show that even people who pirate anime know that the quality of streams on Crunchyroll is the best and least compressed.MadanielFL said: Why are u using pirates on Reddit as a point to prove how comression works on anime streaming.Nope, clearly not lol Didn't you see the anime pirates from Reddit basically admitting that Crunchyroll has the best quality streams? If Crunchyroll compress their videos, then imagine how bad it would be when anime pirates steal that video from Crunchyroll and compress it even more... Unless you think anime pirates get their videos directly from the source given to them by the Japanese producers themselves...? |
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DreamingBeats said: When was was this?@MadanielFL Crunchyroll was in hot water after people found out they deliberately lowered the video quality for even their paying customers...just to save on bandwidth costs https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/5yv8a7/crunchyroll_has_reduced_bitrate_by_4070_damaging/ to be fair, Crunchyroll is a business, and the more they can save on operating costs, the better for them. This comes at a cost of offering potato quality stream to its paying users. Oh yeah, 6 YEARS AGO Safe to say that's not the case anymore. Just doing a side by side comparison of shows that I've watched using pirate streams with their version on Crunchyroll, and there's basically no difference if anything the version on Cr is a little better. |
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MadanielFL said: Compression doesn't pixelate images. It does the opposite with smoothing filters and anti-aliasing. If you're seeing pixelated images, then the image has not been smoothed.katsucats said: Well I never said they don't compress their videos, more so that videos on pirate sites are EVEN MORE compressed, like I said Summertime Render fansubs are a prime example with the pixelated image.Yeah, it might be slightly worse, but you're overestimating how much that matters. No one is going to streaming sites to play it on a projector with unrealistic expectations. The fact that you can't tell CR is compressed proves that properly done compression doesn't detract much from the experience. If you press pause and whip out a microscope you could see it, but no one does that. Obviously the quality for most shows is almost the exact same on both. But people act like the quality on pirate sites are somehow better, when in reality they are mostly the same if not worse. Also, pirated sites can be high quality due to buffering, since paid sites like Crunchy Roll limit buffering to prevent people from trying to rip the video from memory. If the internet connection is suffering, whether because of the user or that CR's servers are overloaded or busy -- which can be possible depending on where people live in relation to their CDNs (content delivery networks) -- then CrunchyRoll might automatically pick a lower resolution to stream. The same is true for pirated sites. However, some video streamers allow buffering, so that if someone pauses the video, it preloads it for smoother playback. It doesn't have to be the case that pirated video is less compressed to deliver better image quality, although that is sometimes (but rarely) the case due to licensing issues. For example, for one show, I forget which, American licensors got the rights to the 720p video despite that one Japanese station broadcasted in 1080p, which allowed pirates to rip the original video at higher definition and provide it to torrent raws. Then subbers use those raws and upload them to streaming sites. That doesn't usually happen, but it can. |
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katsucats said: When you say Crunchyroll auto sets the resolution to something lower, you mean the auto option just like on Youtube?MadanielFL said: Compression doesn't pixelate images. It does the opposite with smoothing filters and anti-aliasing. If you're seeing pixelated images, then the image has not been smoothed.Well I never said they don't compress their videos, more so that videos on pirate sites are EVEN MORE compressed, like I said Summertime Render fansubs are a prime example with the pixelated image. Obviously the quality for most shows is almost the exact same on both. But people act like the quality on pirate sites are somehow better, when in reality they are mostly the same if not worse. Also, pirated sites can be high quality due to buffering, since paid sites like Crunchy Roll limit buffering to prevent people from trying to rip the video from memory. If the internet connection is suffering, whether because of the user or that CR's servers are overloaded or busy -- which can be possible depending on where people live in relation to their CDNs (content delivery networks) -- then CrunchyRoll might automatically pick a lower resolution to stream. The same is true for pirated sites. However, some video streamers allow buffering, so that if someone pauses the video, it preloads it for smoother playback. It doesn't have to be the case that pirated video is less compressed to deliver better image quality, although that is sometimes (but rarely) the case due to licensing issues. For example, for one show, I forget which, American licensors got the rights to the 720p video despite that one Japanese station broadcasted in 1080p, which allowed pirates to rip the original video at higher definition and provide it to torrent raws. Then subbers use those raws and upload them to streaming sites. That doesn't usually happen, but it can. Cause if you set to 1080p then it will continue like that until you change it. And when you say pirate streams allow for you to pause the video so it preloads, you mean like a buffer bar? Cause Crunchyroll also has that, and so if your stream is buffering you can pause and wait for it to preload. |
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MadanielFL said: If you set it to a resolution and it doesn't load fast enough, then it will buffer and the video stops. The buffer bar is an approximation (i.e. a comfort lie). Having a buffer bar doesn't necessarily mean the video will preload. It may only load for the next few seconds then stop, because CrunchyRoll doesn't want the entire video loaded in your computer's memory so you could steal it. It is apparently some people's experience (and certainly mine) that I can't just pause the video in CR and expect it to load the whole video.katsucats said: When you say Crunchyroll auto sets the resolution to something lower, you mean the auto option just like on Youtube?Compression doesn't pixelate images. It does the opposite with smoothing filters and anti-aliasing. If you're seeing pixelated images, then the image has not been smoothed. Also, pirated sites can be high quality due to buffering, since paid sites like Crunchy Roll limit buffering to prevent people from trying to rip the video from memory. If the internet connection is suffering, whether because of the user or that CR's servers are overloaded or busy -- which can be possible depending on where people live in relation to their CDNs (content delivery networks) -- then CrunchyRoll might automatically pick a lower resolution to stream. The same is true for pirated sites. However, some video streamers allow buffering, so that if someone pauses the video, it preloads it for smoother playback. It doesn't have to be the case that pirated video is less compressed to deliver better image quality, although that is sometimes (but rarely) the case due to licensing issues. For example, for one show, I forget which, American licensors got the rights to the 720p video despite that one Japanese station broadcasted in 1080p, which allowed pirates to rip the original video at higher definition and provide it to torrent raws. Then subbers use those raws and upload them to streaming sites. That doesn't usually happen, but it can. Cause if you set to 1080p then it will continue like that until you change it. And when you say pirate streams allow for you to pause the video so it preloads, you mean like a buffer bar? Cause Crunchyroll also has that, and so if your stream is buffering you can pause and wait for it to preload. |
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katsucats said: Yes you are right about that.MadanielFL said: If you set it to a resolution and it doesn't load fast enough, then it will buffer and the video stops. The buffer bar is an approximation (i.e. a comfort lie). Having a buffer bar doesn't necessarily mean the video will preload. It may only load for the next few seconds then stop, because CrunchyRoll doesn't want the entire video loaded in your computer's memory so you could steal it. It is apparently some people's experience (and certainly mine) that I can't just pause the video in CR and expect it to load the whole video.When you say Crunchyroll auto sets the resolution to something lower, you mean the auto option just like on Youtube? Cause if you set to 1080p then it will continue like that until you change it. And when you say pirate streams allow for you to pause the video so it preloads, you mean like a buffer bar? Cause Crunchyroll also has that, and so if your stream is buffering you can pause and wait for it to preload. The buffer bar on Crunchyroll is limited, so it doesn't preload the entire video. Still they have one and it works (it preloads far enough that the video doesn't buffer) Also I'm not really sure but I think Youtube works similar as well. |
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MadanielFL said: My internet is usually stable enough to stream at least 720p, but once in a while it doesn't and it would piss me off when video players don't preload a good 15 minutes ahead just to be sure. I think YouTube sometimes has that issue depending on whether the video is monetized... or something, I'm not sure. Pirated videos are often illegally monetized with ads and don't allow preloading either, but sometimes they do. If quality really matters to me, I will either buy the blu-ray if there's a distributor and the price is reasonable, or I will Torrent it. I try to keep recurring fees to a minimum, and watch enough Chinese donghua or older Japanese anime that might not be licensed that the little boost in quality on CR if it's even noticeable is not worth it to me. Maybe if CR answers all my concerns I could be sold, but I don't see that happening any time soon.katsucats said: Yes you are right about that.If you set it to a resolution and it doesn't load fast enough, then it will buffer and the video stops. The buffer bar is an approximation (i.e. a comfort lie). Having a buffer bar doesn't necessarily mean the video will preload. It may only load for the next few seconds then stop, because CrunchyRoll doesn't want the entire video loaded in your computer's memory so you could steal it. It is apparently some people's experience (and certainly mine) that I can't just pause the video in CR and expect it to load the whole video. The buffer bar on Crunchyroll is limited, so it doesn't preload the entire video. Still they have one and it works (it preloads far enough that the video doesn't buffer) Also I'm not really sure but I think Youtube works similar as well. |
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