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Jun 8, 2022 3:30 PM
#1
Raws are out ,second last chapter before Final Saga!!! 0/5 for story telling and plot resolve 5/5 for hype to upcoming overall chapter for Greenbull and lore.Lore pieec at best Overall 2/5 maybe worst chapter in onigashima after chap 1030,1049,1004 |
Ayu_01Jun 8, 2022 3:38 PM
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Jun 8, 2022 3:36 PM
#2
Lmao I cant stop laughing at zorobois ,oda did Zoro so dirty this chapter that i cant express .Like this is way worse than oda has done to sanji.Finally they can understand what Oda did to Sanji in some gags I will make detail posst about Zoro failiure after scans are out. I cant decide to be happy or sad laught at zorotards that they became what they feared or be sad that Kaido is done in similar way But since I liked Zoro a lot before . i will say Oda did him dirty now he is remembered as Zorojuro a criminal and murder more as fight throughout has been not visible to citizen . Lmao how could Oda even compare Ryuma to Luffy liek he literally cucked Zoro this chapter. This is the most rushed ending of anything i have ever read . Waiting for new Saga and hoping atleast that has decent ending cause 150 chapter of arc 400 chapter payoff to this that not one fandom is happy except Luffy .I like Luffy alot but Oda is overwanking him like other mangaka making him gary sue which he made Zoro earlier. Pls Oda now end wano next chapter so I can forget about last 6 chapters and this arc |
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Jun 8, 2022 3:59 PM
#3
Great chapter imo. I love interaction between SH and other characters. And I didn't expected a 7 days timeskip. Greenbull is in wano, that's hype. Excited for next chapter for bountys and new revelation. Let's see will the first arc of Final Saga will be post-wano arc or a whole new arc. It looks like momo wants to through gaint party! Great, I was waiting for that Gaint party party. I don't think timeskip was wrong decision because Luffy & Zoro both were unconcious or sleeping for 7 days. RIP Ashura, Izo & Hawkins Oda hates WB pirates, and he wants Marco to suffer the most! Nico Robin was not in the whole chapter, I suppose she is finding/reading the ponoglyp!!! The best: Gangster Gastino is back! @FMmatron Toei is truly F**ked up with 1% guy. Hiyori drop kick to momo, lmao (oda really turned this from head canon to canon) I highly doubt that Staw Hats will leave Wano in 1053 or 1054, if they face agaisnt Greenbull! |
removed-userJun 9, 2022 2:13 AM
Jun 8, 2022 4:48 PM
#4
Glad that Oda didn't forget about Caesar. Always loving these chill post battle chapters and as expected we get to see bounties and Green Bull. Too much hype. I'm really curious regarding his powers and if he can breath new life into the Wano wasteland. Without his fleet a big fight shouldn't take place. Perhaps he's also out to capture Robin? Speaking of her, we didn't see her this chapter. Makes me think she will play an important part next chapter or in one of the upcoming ones when it's time to read the porneglyph. Also hope to get an update on the world with the newspapers. What's with Sabo, Alabasta, the Shichibukai. What happened to the Big Mom Pirates? Will we see what Blackbeard is up to? Will Shanks finally make a move? The fun part of this chapter felt so much more enjoyable after sitting down and taking my time to read it again in peace. Legendary panels lmao The anticipated drop kick didn't hurt Momonosuke and also hilarious that he basically lost his privilege to feel up Nami. "Welcome to the adult world" "Yup, he's definitely tougher now" Luffy and Zoro know better than anyone what it takes to tank Nami's lovely fists and of course these two crave meat and booze first. Then we had Zoro and Sanji who settled their business. It was brimming with fun banter, pretty much every castle panel had something smile inducing. I also loved the little with the students learning the real history of Wano. Oden and the Scabbards finally receive their due respect. Sad for Marco, but it isn't any easier for Momo, Hiyori, Kinemon, Kiku and the others too. They were betrayed, suffered through losses, hardships and misery too. @Raizel Overall: How could you go wrong with such a chapter? Ayu_01 said: Overall 2/5 maybe worst chapter in onigashima after chap 1030,1049,1004 L take, simply a fucking L take. Oda didn't do Zoro dirty, you just had unreasonable expectations. Luffy, Kid and Law > him in terms of status. But that's ok, "Zorojuro" will eventually be known as the worlds best swordsman and he couldn't care less that he’s not recognized as legend in Wano; that's the type of guy he is. The lowkey most baffling aspect this chapter was Hawkins 1% survival prediction. At least he had some sort of dignity. Btw, that's another L for Toei who went ahead and added an original scene where Hawkins was referring to Drake as the 1% guy. And if he really died then it means Killer is a literal killer, lol. |
FMmatronJun 13, 2022 12:02 PM
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Jun 8, 2022 11:28 PM
#5
FMmatron said: Always loving these chill post battle chapters and as expected we get to see bounties and Green Bull. Too much hype. I'm really curious regarding his powers and if he can breath new life into the Wano wasteland. Ayu_01 said: Overall 2/5 maybe worst chapter in onigashima after chap 1030,1049,1004 L take, simply a fucking L take. Oda didn't do Zoro dirty, you just had unreasonable expectations. Luffy, Kid and Law > him in terms of status. But that's ok, "Zorojuro" will eventually be known as the worlds best swordsman and he couldn't care less that he’s not recognized as legend in Wano; that's the type of guy he is. The lowkey most baffling aspect this chapter was Hawkins 1% survival prediction. At least he had some sort of dignity. Btw, that's another L for Toei who went ahead and added an original scene where Hawkins was referring to Drake as the 1% guy. Bro I am just done with Wano Lol you should know I had minmal expectaion from Zoro but even that were not met First what was the use of Zuineshia just to dickride Joyboy like atleast show us the farewell scene between him and Momo I have 10 more reasons why this chapter sucks for plotline. Bro are you satisifed with Izo and Ashura death if yes then kudos to you Oda storytelling was such that even a dog in East Blue arc made me cry and here we are supposed to take that 2 people died(and btw none died to yonkos or crew ,one to CP0 and one to bomb)So yeah Kaido AP<<<Bomb where Pell nuked an atomic bomb And on top of that minimum reaction from crew and Kiku is bathing and no reaction to Izo like wth Yamato met Ushimaru who looked like Zoro but no reaction? Now it is possible that it all happened off screen but why not show them it just degraded their sacrifice and emotional aspect to story. This could be excellent plotline if covered in two chapter(one showing Zuniesha farewell ,proper reaction from other and second something like this) but rushing eventually lead to this.(and he spent x uselss chapter in udon traingn ,countless running chapters leading to nothing and reductant same panels from 1046-1048) FUCK Kaido ,a filler villian who was hyped for 10 years to go like this .I put wrong expectation from him The last four chapters(excpet 1051) really made me hate Onigashima more than I can imagine, Now the only villian I can have faith is BB(who I simply dont like) |
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Jun 8, 2022 11:30 PM
#6
Toei messed up with one percent but I am sure they will retcon it and say he just said this to distract other and he knew truth from beginning |
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Jun 9, 2022 1:57 AM
#7
The overall positive vibe, as usual, but for the standard aftermath chapter, Oda needs to wrap up the enemies' whereabouts (tobiroppo, YC commanders, bm and kaido) and their resolution for the later chapter. It's not like the usual where there marine to clean up the mess or something like that. |
karambiaJun 9, 2022 2:00 AM
Jun 9, 2022 1:59 AM
#8
@Ayu_01 first let me start with what good this chapter is. We got to see the interaction between the SH crew. We saw funny moments with momo, we got Zoro & Sanji fight/interaction. And most of all we see Chopper on Zoro's head. The crew taking bath together, and that little bit of One Piece thing in there with Okiku(men) in the women's bath & Yamato(women) in the men's bath. It was hilarious. We also got the reaction of Bepo & Killer towards Franky's Megazord. We got to see Kawamatsu, Onimaru & Kin'emon giving their farewell to Oden, Izo & Ashura's Shrine. Marco said, "I have... survive yet again..." hits because Marco lost everyone near him from his crew. And at the end we got Greenbull coming to wano hype. And we saw one of the worst generations getting killed by another worst generation member. Hawkins died and he regretted his decision to side with Kaido but he knew if he betrays Kaido now, he will lose his pride as a Pirate. Hawkins's death shows us that even the worst generation members are not safe, they can die and in the future more worst generation members will die. And some more mystery about, who was talking with CP-0 guy on den den mushi? And even if you remove the Hawkins part, greenbull part and farewell to Izo & Ashura, this chapter is still great because what fan truly wants more than anything is more interaction between SH characters and we see a lot in the chapter. You are only looking at the bad side of the chapter. You are not even trying to enjoy the good part of the chapter. @FMmatron said that your take on the chapter is "L" because you said it is one of the worst chapters in onigashima. You want Yamato's reaction to Zoro's face, but Oda already said there is no connection between Zoro & Shimotsuki. Oda Draws Zoro, Ushimaru & Ryuma in the same way but it doesn't necessarily mean they are the same guy. Take the example of Nami, Vivi and Rebecca, all three look the same except for their hair colour. The same is for Zoro, Ryuma & Ushimaru, they just have different hair colours. If Zoro truly looked alike Ushimaru, then tell me why didn't Onimaru react to him Not once did Onimaru say that Zoro looks like Ushimaru. Even Kawamatsu said, Zoro is one-eyed samurai just like Ryuma. It means Zoro also have one eye like ryuma. This doesn't mean they both look the same(at least in one piece). When Roger was young he also looked a lot like young Luffy but Rayleigh & Shanks never mentioned that they both looks the same. And half of your criticisms on your post are from the wano arc not from this chapter. Luffy & Zoro were Sleeping/unconscious for 7 days, and every plot thread is connected to them. So, 7 days skip was necessary to happen. I'm just saying that this chapter as it stands is not lower than 7/10. Now give me your 10 reasons to hate/don't like chapter 1052? (all the reasons should be in this chapter not out of the chapter like we didn't see ponoglyp because that event has not happened yet). Keep in mind that characters' interaction & goofy moments between them is one of the strengths of one piece. |
removed-userJun 9, 2022 2:21 AM
Jun 9, 2022 5:25 AM
#9
The one question that worries me the most is why did Yamato go to bath with men. Because she wanted to be with Luffy, or because she has a dick between her legs, lol? |
Jun 9, 2022 5:59 AM
#10
@Volkur as i mentioned in my post the premise was very good,but execution was worst. Typical Oda style ending which is good but here he rushed the pacing. As I mentioned this chapter should be divided into two chapters where one should be reaction, farewell scene and second this. I will give detail reasoning just after scans come out to confirm dialouge. So you telling you are fine with death of Izo and Ashura where orochi kept getting up after every one chapter and wr saw ashura last time in 1007 and boom here we are sudden with news.And not even respecting their death we just go to happiness scene which could have avoided if one chapter was sad and next one like this. It could have been easy possible had Oda not wasted 100 panels of running This chapter links the problem of pacing evident from 1049 (except 1051).oda was dragging shit from 1045 and then boom kaido done everything done without feel of conclusion. Do you remember that panel of Luffy ringing bell in Skypeia. That wss something i wanted as dawn slowly occurred (as it was dark in 1051)but we skipped that. There wouldn't be any problem if this was a normal arc but this is conclusion of yonko saga an arc which is 4 years long and 9 years buildup. And beleive me scabbard and beast pirates (including Kaido) are the worst side character IN OP. I want less of them but after like 4 years with them i wanted a proper conclusion. Just see how giving a proper conclusion made me like Otama from last chapter. 80%+ fan base hated her concept but Oda solved that last chapter. Proper conclusion is What i want and expect and its not too much to ask. Each arc had them so why not final. Also I am extra pro salty as I ma huge Kaido Stan (or used to be) and look how they massacred my boy. |
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Jun 9, 2022 7:01 AM
#11
@VolKur I'm not sure if they're going to fight against Green Bull seriously. Even if admirals are comparable to Yonkou, even if he has a tricky ability, without his fleet the odds wouldn't be in his favor against the entire force that's currently at Wano head on. We'll see how many vice admirals and new pacifistas he got with him and if everyone is at 100% again after a week. As for Izo and Ashura, seems pretty final or Oda is pulling another Pell lmao. A gravestone means nothing in front of the will of P. |
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Jun 9, 2022 7:12 AM
#12
FMmatron said: @VolKur I'm not sure if they're going to fight against Green Bull seriously. Even if admirals are comparable to Yonkou, even if he has a tricky ability, without his fleet the odds wouldn't be in his favor against the entire force that's currently at Wano head on. We'll see how many vice admirals and new pacifistas he got with him and if everyone is at 100% again after a week. As for Izo and Ashura, seems pretty final or Oda is pulling another Pell lmao. A gravestone means nothing in front of the will of P. Yeah, I have 2 expectations. First one complete obliteration of Luffy's crew & alliance like in sabaody. Or Second one where Greenbull is here only to talk with SH or here to so some other stuff. It can go Any where. One thing is for sure SH pirates are not leaving wano for next few chapters. Ashura & Izo are dead. I don't think will of P will do anything here, lol @FMmatron lmao it's been over a week bro!! They can't even found the body's of their comrades? If they were alive chopper should have treated them. But still even if they are alive, I'll not be disappointed. But there are only 0.00000001% chance of them being alive. |
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Jun 9, 2022 7:29 AM
#13
@VolKur forget the first one lmao Yeah, anything can happen, I just don't expect a big all out fight. That's what people thought about Pell too, just saying that it's the same situation. |
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Jun 9, 2022 3:42 PM
#14
Jun 9, 2022 4:39 PM
#15
Damn, this was so disappointing. We still have so many questions left unanswered. This was supposed to be the conclusion to all of New World, ever since the Luffy-Law alliance was formed, but honestly, this might be the most disappointing arc in all of One Piece. It had some of the highest highs, Oden Flashback, Gear 5th, and Advanced Conquerors Haki, but it had the lowest lows out of any arcs. Luffy beating Kaido with a big fist? What? How isn't that anticlimactic? The fights in general were so bad for One Piece standards. It turns out that all Yonko crews are fodder, that get folded no diff by the strawhats. Big Mom was pretty cool for me the whole way through, but if she's dead, then what was the point? Why did Luffy say he's gonna beat her if he didn't even touch her in the whole battle? Why were the Big Mom pirates there, if they didn't do shit? Here are all the questions the next chapter has to answear: -What happened to Kaido and Big Mom -What happened to King, Queen, Jack and Perospero -What happened to the Tobi Roppo -What is Yamato's purpose -What does it mean to open Wano's borders and why Momonosuke doesn't want to open them -What is Nidai Kitetsu's role and why was it teased that Zoro would get it? -Where is Zuneshia? -What are Zoro's ties to Ryuma? -What the fuck was that Grim Reaper-looking thing next to Zoro? -Why is Wano important? -Who was the man 1 month from now Hawkins talked about? -Do Kaido and Big Mom not have awakenings, even though BM's first mate, Katakuri had it? -How / Will Chopper heal the Smiles? -What really is Onigashima? -Will Onigashima, the symbol of Kaido just lay around next to the Flower Capital? This has been an insanely disappointing arc overall, with incredible promise at the start. We're getting bounties next week, hurray... I honestly wish Oda took more breaks in between, so he could've planned it all better... |
Jun 9, 2022 4:53 PM
#16
Green Bull making moves π Damn it all Oda you cannot tease us with the updated bounties like that! π Rest in peace Izo though, poor Marco losing ANOTHER homie... π A nice balance of chill yet very hype-worthy chapter. |
Jun 9, 2022 4:54 PM
#17
The only thing I can agree with some people is that there are so many questions that is left unanswered. Like what happened with Kaido and Big Mom. Did they really die or get obliterated by the lava explosion? Oda loves to leave certain things unanswered until it is really 100% confirmed or something. Something that is annoying or something. Anyways. Looking forward to next chapter. |
Jun 9, 2022 5:02 PM
#18
Well RIP to Izo and Ashura. Death is tricky in One Piece and we've been faked out before (the infamous Pell thing still doesn't sit right with the fanbase to this day lol), so I have my doubts as to if Hawkins is actually dead there. And I would still like some confirmation regarding Big Mom and Kaido's status. Anyway, a nice post-victory celebration chapter, as usual. I'm really excited to see the news that Apoo had, something like this will shake up the whole world so those new bounties are gonna get a THICC upgrade. Can't wait to see who's been deemed the new Emperors and to see more of Green Bull and what he plans to do in Wano. Next chapter's cliffhanger is gonna be WILD before the month-long break. |
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Jun 9, 2022 5:06 PM
#19
Peace at least, I can feel it. But this is the one peace after the upcoming GREATEST STORM EVER!!! |
Jun 9, 2022 5:09 PM
#20
Jun 9, 2022 5:25 PM
#21
Insane chapter. Ryokugyu has the plant fruit it's almost confirmed, the theories were all true lol. Now who are the new emperors ? I guess maybe Mihawk and Luffy ? Hancock ? I doubt it would be Law or Kidd, they beat Big Mom on 2v1. But we know that Morgans doesn't care about this, since he called Luffy an emperor just for beating Katakuri and Cracker. |
Jun 9, 2022 6:36 PM
#22
Really nice chapter, the wrap-ups in Wano look to be promising. People in here are too trigger-happy, this is not the final chapter of the arc, clearly, there is a lot of things Oda will still address, this was the "chill time after recovering from the injuries" chapter, like the one we got for many other arcs, most notably and similar in execution to this, in Arabasta. So far so great though, a lot of good comedy, some lore building hype at last (I'm betting Kidd is the other Yonko, as Oda has previously hinted before). Kinda weird that Yamato still didn't have a proper development from her Oden wannabe complex, she straight just bathed with the men in that very same mentality. I thought her character arc was going to be for her to grow out of it now that her role was fullfilled, I don't really see much purpose from her other than wanting to travel, if this is leading to her joining the crew, but let's see. She still had an heartwarming establishing moment towards Luffy just now though, that was cute to read. No idea what the Admiral is doing going solo to a place where a bunch of pirates just got rid of 2 Yonkos, btw, is he THAT strong? |
DanpmssJun 9, 2022 9:47 PM
Jun 9, 2022 6:59 PM
#23
Oda's writing just gets weirder. First he drags out the Onigashima arc and makes it last way longer than it should be, now suddenly he's rushing through details that should've been expanded upon. Like Zoro's shinigami subplot which he just dropped apparently. Also we're not getting any information about what happened to Jack, Queen, King and the other Beast Pirates? What about the Big Mom Pirates? Why did Izou get killed so unceremoniously? Since a week has passed since Kaido lost, does that mean that Robin found and translated his Road Poneglyph? What about the other Poneglyphs that were collected on WCI and the one in Orochi's mansion? And why is Ryokugyu going to Wano? What exactly is one Admiral supposed to accomplish against a group of pirates who beat 2 Yonko? And speaking of which, what the hell was the point of Zunesha arriving outside of Wano if it was just going to fangirl over Joy Boy for a couple chapters and not drop any more lore?! But worst of all, why was there a bunch of panels wasted on stupid pointless fan service that could've been used for something important instead... Edit: Can people stop with the "Wano has ended" talk? Common sense says it's not over because there's still stuff that needs to be covered, plus Luffy and the others are still on the island and we were literally told that there's another festival about to start which they're going to attend. :/ |
WematanyeJun 9, 2022 7:03 PM
Jun 9, 2022 7:39 PM
#24
@Early_Morning as of now, there are just too many plot are unanswered! But I can give you answer of one. Why Zunisha left? He came to wano to open the borders of wano but momo stopped him. I think that Zunisha is only one who can open the border of wano by destroying the waterfall or gaint wall sounding wano. And 5 Elders also said that("so, borders are staying close for now") just after when CP-0 agent informed them about Zunisha leaving the Wano. I truly believe that Zunisha is the only one who can open the border of wano! Other than that I don't have answer for any of the plot lines. @ChibiTalha lmao Buggy is perfect candidate for Emproros of sea. But I'll not be surprised if Kid & Law are the new Emproros. |
removed-userJun 9, 2022 7:44 PM
Jun 9, 2022 8:01 PM
#25
@Volkur Sorry you feel that way, but as usual with Oda I don't think it's over until it's over. There's no way he's just glancing over the fact that he was doing a Kabuki style with this arc and left it on the act where something dramatic is supposed to happen. You're acting like they've already set sail and left the country but there's still plenty of room for things to be explained, and we could always see what's happened within the last week with a few panels of flashbacks. I'm not even convinced that Kaido and Big Mom are dead, or even Izo and Ashura for that matter. If Big Mom dies, then wouldn't Whole Cake Island be completely decimated? |
Jun 9, 2022 8:05 PM
#26
garpgorp147 said: @Volkur Sorry you feel that way, but as usual with Oda I don't think it's over until it's over. There's no way he's just glancing over the fact that he was doing a Kabuki style with this arc and left it on the act where something dramatic is supposed to happen. You're acting like they've already set sail and left the country but there's still plenty of room for things to be explained, and we could always see what's happened within the last week with a few panels of flashbacks. I'm not even convinced that Kaido and Big Mom are dead, or even Izo and Ashura for that matter. If Big Mom dies, then wouldn't Whole Cake Island be completely decimated? I think you have wrong impression of me. I'm on board with you. I'm not complaining about anything right now. I know there is going to be either act 4 or post-wano arc.(trigger for the Final Saga). And I also think Kaido & BM are not dead because there is no confirmation. Sadly, Ashura & Izo are dead. |
Jun 9, 2022 8:41 PM
#27
Damn looks like greenbull have plant-plant fruit @ mokuton from first hokage lmao |
Jun 9, 2022 9:42 PM
#28
Compared to many previous arcs, this conclusion doesn't really feel epic. I can't really pinpoint what it is but it felt both rushed and dragged out. Anyways, this chapter was so-so. We got bounty hype without revealing bounties, Zoro having worse game than Sanji with women yet he could easily pull the most attractive woman of Wano, Greenbull hype but left as a cliffhanger, and of course unnecessary fanservice. |
Jun 9, 2022 9:46 PM
#29
chapter overall was very good but so much stuff left answered oda is really teasing us with the bounty reveal and ryokugyu appearance |
Jun 9, 2022 9:49 PM
#30
Woah, I loved this chapter. It had a bit of everything: serious moments, wholesome moments, and things to look forward to! I've done a full walkthrough/reaction to this on my profile, but here are my main thoughts: - I wonder if Caesar will join Germa?? - It seems Zunesha is required to open Wano's borders somehow (perhaps by destroying the big waterfall?) - The WG got no chance of stealing Robin lol - Did Hawkins JUST die?? - I'm very surprised Oda actually killed off Ashura and Izo. I'm annoyed that someone died because of Kanjuro (Ashura), but Izo's death was very heroic in retrospect. Imo this is good plot-wise, makes the raid feel a lot more real with proper consequences. - The scenes between the crew, Momo, Hiyori and Yamato warmed my heart!! So MANY funny and wholesome moments (I love this series, thank you Oda) - Respect gender identification! - I'm SO keen to see the new bounties - I wonder who the new emperors will be. Obviously Luffy, but will the 4th be Kid or Law? Or both? - Greenbull reveal coming up!! I doubt he has come to fight. He probably comes with some sort of proposition |
Jun 9, 2022 9:51 PM
#31
VolKur said: Great chapter imo. I love interaction between SH and other characters. And I didn't expected a 7 days timeskip. Greenbull is in wano, that's hype. Excited for next chapter for bountys and new revelation. Let's see will the first arc of Final Saga will be post-wano arc or a whole new arc. It looks like momo wants to through gaint party! Great, I was waiting for that Gaint party party. I don't think timeskip was wrong decision because Luffy & Zoro both were unconcious or sleeping for 7 days. RIP Ashura, Izo & Hawkins Oda hates WB pirates, and he wants Marco to suffer the most! Nico Robin was not in the whole chapter, I suppose she is finding/reading the ponoglyp!!! The best: Gangster Gastino is back! @FMmatron Toei is truly F**ked up with 1% guy. Hiyori drop kick to momo, lmao (oda really turned this from head canon to canon) I highly doubt that Staw Hats will leave Wano in 1053 or 1054, if they face agaisnt Greenbull! Bruh why you gotta post that pic. Don't hurt me like that |
Jun 9, 2022 9:57 PM
#33
Looking forward to seeing the new bounties before the break. RIp Ashura, Izo, and Hawkins. I'm glad that Marco let Izo be buried with Oden and the other Red Scabbards instead of Whitebeard and Ace though that would've been nice too. |
Jun 9, 2022 10:07 PM
#34
Early_Morning said: Oda's writing just gets weirder. First he drags out the Onigashima arc and makes it last way longer than it should be, now suddenly he's rushing through details that should've been expanded upon. Like Zoro's shinigami subplot which he just dropped apparently. Also we're not getting any information about what happened to Jack, Queen, King and the other Beast Pirates? What about the Big Mom Pirates? Why did Izou get killed so unceremoniously? Since a week has passed since Kaido lost, does that mean that Robin found and translated his Road Poneglyph? What about the other Poneglyphs that were collected on WCI and the one in Orochi's mansion? I am 100% sure he himself got burnt out on Wano and that massive rewrites happened at all times during the arc, this is certainly the weirdest Oda's writing has been since... hm, maybe the start of the entire manga. I hope we eventually learn why. In any case, I still hope we get a proper Post-Wano arc after the break. |
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Jun 9, 2022 10:15 PM
#35
A Good chapter felt a bit rushed tho First things first, RIP Ashura and Izo. Izo was my second favorite WB commander as well as my second favorite Akazaya. "Once again, I'm left behind to say Goodbye" these words of Marco broke me, man lost everything and is still able to smile like that. GOAT The chapter had some fun elements, like Sanji getting jealous of Zoro, Momo getting the slap he deserves, and Yamato going to the boys' bath leading to Sanji bathing in his blood. The chapter ended with hype, the names of the next two emperors, and new bounties; judging from Apoo's reaction, real shit's about to go down in the next chapter. And Greenbull is here. |
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Jun 9, 2022 10:35 PM
#36
Jun 9, 2022 11:44 PM
#37
Ayu_01 said: Toei messed up with one percent but I am sure they will retcon it and say he just said this to distract other and he knew truth from beginning What did Toei do with that? |
Jun 9, 2022 11:48 PM
#38
So Zunesha is required to open Wano border? That's interesting. Robin not seen anywhere, probably she is alone searching for PG which means Green Bull could find and kidnap her? Or he is in Wano to make arrangements between SH and WG? We will se. It's certain that Oda will left us with a giant cliffhanger for the one month break. Who are the next two emperors? Technically Luffy should be assured as one, because right now he is the closest man to the One Piece but maybe the WG wanna cover up all the Nika story? Can't wait to see what will happen. |
Jun 9, 2022 11:51 PM
#39
ok chapter. casualties were suffered but the overall wano ending was mid so hopefully greenbull is spicy Dahaka_ said: they made drake the 1% guyWhat did Toei do with that? |
Jun 10, 2022 12:41 AM
#40
Lol at the amount of crying here. What do you expect Oda to do? Go on full Light Novel on every page just like how Togashi did? It's 1 chapter ffs. We've already had alot of answers here along with a good doze of new development. Chill the f out. |
Jun 10, 2022 12:57 AM
#41
Jun 10, 2022 1:05 AM
#42
I liked the comedic parts of the chapter. One Piece used to be very funny, but this has become rare in big arcs like Dressrosa or Wano. Some aspects of the chapter felt rushed. The 7 day timeskip was a good choice, but considering the worldbuilding of One Piece there are a lot of characters and reactions that need to be addressed for a proper closure of Wano. I hope next week is the end of act 3, but not Wano as a whole |
Jun 10, 2022 1:08 AM
#43
Rip Izo and Ashura. ArabianLuffy said: I think he might be still alive.Basil Hawkins is dead? Are you even sure? |
Jun 10, 2022 1:15 AM
#44
Usamechan said: Damn, this was so disappointing. We still have so many questions left unanswered. This was supposed to be the conclusion to all of New World, ever since the Luffy-Law alliance was formed, but honestly, this might be the most disappointing arc in all of One Piece. It had some of the highest highs, Oden Flashback, Gear 5th, and Advanced Conquerors Haki, but it had the lowest lows out of any arcs. Luffy beating Kaido with a big fist? What? How isn't that anticlimactic? The fights in general were so bad for One Piece standards. It turns out that all Yonko crews are fodder, that get folded no diff by the strawhats. Big Mom was pretty cool for me the whole way through, but if she's dead, then what was the point? Why did Luffy say he's gonna beat her if he didn't even touch her in the whole battle? Why were the Big Mom pirates there, if they didn't do shit? Here are all the questions the next chapter has to answear: -What happened to Kaido and Big Mom -What happened to King, Queen, Jack and Perospero -What happened to the Tobi Roppo -What is Yamato's purpose -What does it mean to open Wano's borders and why Momonosuke doesn't want to open them -What is Nidai Kitetsu's role and why was it teased that Zoro would get it? -Where is Zuneshia? -What are Zoro's ties to Ryuma? -What the fuck was that Grim Reaper-looking thing next to Zoro? -Why is Wano important? -Who was the man 1 month from now Hawkins talked about? -Do Kaido and Big Mom not have awakenings, even though BM's first mate, Katakuri had it? -How / Will Chopper heal the Smiles? -What really is Onigashima? -Will Onigashima, the symbol of Kaido just lay around next to the Flower Capital? This has been an insanely disappointing arc overall, with incredible promise at the start. We're getting bounties next week, hurray... I honestly wish Oda took more breaks in between, so he could've planned it all better... Some of your questions were already answered or are obvious without saying, like Kaido and Big Mom have obviously already awakened their devil fruit power and were contantly using it. Escpecially Big Moms was insanely OP, no way thats just the regular DF without any awakening. Apart from that EVERY question will get answered like always. It doesn't need to be answered in the next chapter though. How do you even read One Piece for over 1000 chapters and still ask such questions. Shit always gets answered sooner or later, more often later though. This is just how One Piece works. It has always been like that. Just chill and wait. |
Jun 10, 2022 1:43 AM
#46
I feel like people take everything to serious and literal, Oda still has time to expand upon what has been done. Just see where it will take us and wait before complaining about it being too rushed. |
''Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.'' |
Jun 10, 2022 2:46 AM
#47
This looks like Marco pooping |
Jun 10, 2022 4:14 AM
#48
What a joyfull and great chapter, very nice seeing Wano arc turn out out this way, of course it couldve been better in some aspects. Finaly Green Bull reveal might be coming so that really will have most of hype surrounding it. |
Jun 10, 2022 4:47 AM
#49
Lmao πππππππππππ |
Jun 10, 2022 4:48 AM
#50
Katzenjunge said: Usamechan said: Damn, this was so disappointing. We still have so many questions left unanswered. This was supposed to be the conclusion to all of New World, ever since the Luffy-Law alliance was formed, but honestly, this might be the most disappointing arc in all of One Piece. It had some of the highest highs, Oden Flashback, Gear 5th, and Advanced Conquerors Haki, but it had the lowest lows out of any arcs. Luffy beating Kaido with a big fist? What? How isn't that anticlimactic? The fights in general were so bad for One Piece standards. It turns out that all Yonko crews are fodder, that get folded no diff by the strawhats. Big Mom was pretty cool for me the whole way through, but if she's dead, then what was the point? Why did Luffy say he's gonna beat her if he didn't even touch her in the whole battle? Why were the Big Mom pirates there, if they didn't do shit? Here are all the questions the next chapter has to answear: -What happened to Kaido and Big Mom -What happened to King, Queen, Jack and Perospero -What happened to the Tobi Roppo -What is Yamato's purpose -What does it mean to open Wano's borders and why Momonosuke doesn't want to open them -What is Nidai Kitetsu's role and why was it teased that Zoro would get it? -Where is Zuneshia? -What are Zoro's ties to Ryuma? -What the fuck was that Grim Reaper-looking thing next to Zoro? -Why is Wano important? -Who was the man 1 month from now Hawkins talked about? -Do Kaido and Big Mom not have awakenings, even though BM's first mate, Katakuri had it? -How / Will Chopper heal the Smiles? -What really is Onigashima? -Will Onigashima, the symbol of Kaido just lay around next to the Flower Capital? This has been an insanely disappointing arc overall, with incredible promise at the start. We're getting bounties next week, hurray... I honestly wish Oda took more breaks in between, so he could've planned it all better... Some of your questions were already answered or are obvious without saying, like Kaido and Big Mom have obviously already awakened their devil fruit power and were contantly using it. Escpecially Big Moms was insanely OP, no way thats just the regular DF without any awakening. Apart from that EVERY question will get answered like always. It doesn't need to be answered in the next chapter though. How do you even read One Piece for over 1000 chapters and still ask such questions. Shit always gets answered sooner or later, more often later though. This is just how One Piece works. It has always been like that. Just chill and wait. Okay, if Kaido and Big Mom had their awakenings, why wasn't it shown, or clearly stated in the story itself, JUST LIKE IN EVERY OTHER INSTANCE OF AN AWAKENING BEING USED? Doffy? He said it. Kat? He said it. Law and Kidd? They said it. Luffy? Kaido said it. Never has either Big Mom, Kaido, the narrator, or anyone else clearly stated 'This is Kaido's awakening', or 'This is Big Mom's awakening'. The argument makes no sense, it contradicts the story. That EVERY question, are the questions specific to the Wano arc. Without them, this whole arc was just a waste of time, and for every time the essential question about Wano/the story isn't answered, then you might as well say that Kaido just fell down the stairs and died. We didn't learn what Aqua Laguna is, at Thriller Bark, because it was a plot point specifically intended for Water 7. We didn't learn what the Bubbles in Sabaody Archipelago do in Fishman Island, because it was a specific element of the Sabaody arc. -What is Yamato's purpose? His character arc is tied to Wano, he should have gotten some, even tiniest of character development if he wants to join the crew, as EVERY OTHER STRAWHAT HAD TO DO, YES EVEN ROBIN, SHE JOINED IN ENNIES LOBBY NOT ALABASTA. He was just introduced as a strong ally, and a new crew member? Kaido fell down the stairs I swear People like Yamato only because he's trans and/ or cuz they horny af -Wano's borders: if we don't get an explanation now, then the whole thing about opening Wano's borders, THE FREAKING POINT OF THE ZOU ARC, ODEN'S FLASHBACK AND THE WANO WAR ITSELF WAS ABOUT. If it stays closed, then Kaido just fell down the stairs again. -Why is Wano important? and Zoro's ties to Ryuma are the questions I feel like would fit in the next chapter rather well, (even if rushed as hell) just an exposition dump, as always, but that's fine, One Piece does them really well. Those are still the questions we need answear to. -Onigashima: yeah I wish we got something, but looking at the next chapter, it's really unlikely. If Momo is gonna just take it back to the sea as a dragon, and thus Kaido fell down the stairs -Kaido has to be dead, or he's just gonna demolish Wano after the Strawhats leave. Momo is not Oden, he doesn't know Ryuo, or has Conquerors Haki, he can't kill Kaido. Taking Kaido into prison would also make 0 sense, since he escaped dozens of times. -Big Mom was supposed to be beaten by Luffy, as he declared in his fight vs Katakuri, but that didn't happen. And she also has to be dead, or else she just gonna rise up and delete Wano after SH leave. -Beast Pirates: can be dead (if that's the case, it's the most disappointing evil organization in all of shonen, they didn't do shit, King got folded twice, Queen got folded 3 times, Jack got folded all the time, I mean at least CP9 beat the strawhats once), or just contained -Big Mom Pirates: who the fuck knows where they are, what they do, or whatever, they might be all dead by Greenbull The next chapter is the final chapter of Wano. There is no way in hell it ends satisfyingly. It was a shitshow with 1 character getting any development (Momonosuke), Luffy got a lot of shine, Zoro got some good scenes(for a land of swordsmen, it's freaking wild he got so little), Sanji got 1, Usopp wasn't even there, Robin got 1 good moment, Franky got something to do surely, Brook wasn't there, Nami was pretty cool, Chopper was pretty cool, Jinbe was there for like 1 chapter, that's important. The fights against the Tobi Roppo were so rushed as well, there was no struggle, just easy mode, just like the pre-grand line times. It was ultimately too much for Oda, he dropped the ball on this one, but I am 100% certain that the Laugh Tale arc is going to be amazing since Oda had the end in mind from the beginning. I hope he takes his time, as many breaks as he needs, just so he doesn't rush the story we all love. I cannot take another Wano after Wano... |
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