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| Vegeta: Bardock's scouter holds a recording about the secrets on how to beat Gas. The secrets on how to beat Gas: Just be stronger than him. Bardock: I wish that my sons end up thriving. Dragon: The best I can do is that they kill each other 20 years from now. Dragon: I need the consent of the target of the wish, I can't force a wish on someone. Also Dragon: I'm going to teleport Broly away from Gogeta without his consent. Also switch the bodies of Goku and Zamasu. If a saiyan looses its tail the change of regrowing it is very small and takes a lot of time. And Bardock has a tail when Frieze destroys planet Vegeta. The author: Let's make Bardock loose his tail days before the destruction of planet Vegeta for no reason. That will make a lot of sense!! |
Yaggamy said: Vegeta: Bardock's scouter holds a recording about the secrets on how to beat Gas. The secrets on how to beat Gas: Just be stronger than him. Bardock: I wish that my sons end up thriving. Dragon: The best I can do is that they kill each other 20 years from now. Dragon: I need the consent of the target of the wish, I can't force a wish on someone. Also Dragon: I'm going to teleport Broly away from Gogeta without his consent. Also switch the bodies of Goku and Zamasu. If a saiyan looses its tail the change of regrowing it is very small and takes a lot of time. And Bardock has a tail when Frieze destroys planet Vegeta. The author: Let's make Bardock loose his tail days before the destruction of planet Vegeta for no reason. That will make a lot of sense!! LOL! Aaaah you gotta love the inconsistence of Dragon Ball... |
| "You can't spell slaughter without laughter". |
| Bardock ever so cool, nice touch the broken armour, looks like more the one of the special tv like this. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQx7RwzXMAInz7G?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Bardock made a wish on the Dragon Balls for his sons to "thrive," which is a pretty vague wish, but I'm pretty sure one wouldn't describe how Raditz lived as "thriving." So I'm guessing they're either planning some kind of comeback for Raditz, or they're going to hand-wave that away somehow. Also, does that mean Goku was only able to drive off Vegeta because of Bardock's wish? Ahh... probably best not to think about it. |
| A lot of inconsistencies in this chapter with bardock power scaling and the wish for Goku and raditz. Idk how I feel about it. Will be interesting to see how this arc wraps up |
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| Mix feelings about this. The fighting is awesome but the story is kinda inconsistence 😂 |
| Not a very good chapter. For starters, I think the artwork here was just kinda bad. This just does not look anatomically possible, and this doesn't look nearly as bad, but it also looks rather off to me. These sweeping leg kicks just don't look remotely good to me, they take me out of the action. And the action itself wasn't that good to begin with, Bardock wins basically because he just pushes past his limit? And I know the zenkai boost has been established, but you actually have to heal for that to take effect. Even beyond that, the real problem is that this was set-up as a solution, like we'd learn something valuable from the fight. At best, the takeaway is that Goku should learn to fight with his mind only on victory? I don't buy that Goku doesn't understand that already. Maybe it was that Gas can't control himself after unleashing his full power? Elec says mentions that so try and get him to go berserk? Then there's the wish. I had two thoughts when I first read the wish, 1. Boy that wish didn't care about Raditz and 2. So all of Goku's success is thanks to a wish? Now, according to people on reddit, the wish was poorly translated and in Japanese the wish was closer to "I wish my boys grow up big and strong". In which case, the wish still accurately carried over for Raditz (even if he seems comparatively weak now) but it does mean that Goku's survival/success in the Dragon Ball section came from Bardock's wish. Like, this Dragon was able to make people the strongest in the Universe, it could definitely accomplish protecting Goku in the first half of the series. And with this understanding of the wish, the effects of the wish would stop once Goku grew up big and strong, which is why Goku started dying in the Z-portion of the series, because he no longer has the wish's protection. We don't know for sure that Monaito actually wished for Bardock's kids, he could've wished for Granolah for example, but if he did wish for what Bardock said, then yeah I deeply hate that decision. Also wasn't huge on them dropping all the hints on Frieza's plan to exterminate the Saiyans but that's whatever. |
TerrestriousApr 15, 12:09 PM
| Good chapter. I liked how Toyotaro-sensei handled paneling in it. I wonder how exactly Bardock made Gas return to his regular form. I liked how Bardock followed Saiyan race's grindset and refused to escape from the battlefield. He wished for his sons to thrive in the future instead, which was nice - it came straight from his less barbaric nature. What I did not like was that weird Bardock's power-up that manifested itself during the fight with Gas. deg said: Bardock wished for his sons (Goku and Raditz) to have a good future so does that mean Raditz will be revive at some point? I think no. The wish was to make Bardock's sons thrive, and it worked out well. Both of them survived the destruction of planet Vegeta and could live good, however different lives. When their interests collided, the wish was no longer in power enough to stop Goku and Raditz from fighting with each other, since both subjects of that wish (Bardock's son) decided to fight with each other, so they casted away that "thriving" aspect and relied on their strength alone. Raditz appeared to be weaker than Goku who could fight him with powerful allies (well, one of them - Piccolo; I don't count Gohan), so he died. |
| I loved this chapter, it was great. |
| Sorry for my english xD! RIP Kentaro Miura :( RIP Akira Toriyama :(  |
| So Bardock won because ... he did. Because "muh resolve" I guess. Thought they were actually going for something interesting, lmao. And that wish ... That's just terrible. It doesn't make sense because Raditz turned out to be a slave of Frieza, the little weakling buddy of the remaining saiyans and died unceremonously. Goku technically died from a heart attack originally and went through A LOT of shit, including two deaths, so yeah ... Whatever that wish accomplished, not feeling it. It also diminishes both the efforts of Goku in the original manga run AND grandpa Gohans effort of raising the little guy. It's just all around a terrible story decision that I'm going to ignore. Simply nothing in this chapter for me except disappointment and disbelief honestly. |
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