Why are most female characters in shonen garbage?

DeepRiver said:
People will tell you that is about "target demography" but thats kinda bullshit. Japan is simply a very sexist and old fashioned country. Things wont change until authors and editorials becomes a bit more progressive and open minded.

Anyways, just watch/read Jojo part 6 and thats it.

Schwarznight said:


lmao. that's funny. i think most male mangakas are incels

KIOSHI_17 said:
Well, they are made to be generic. It's just a shounen thing. Their main role is just to support the protagonist in some way or the other

kizumi91 said:
That's why it's called Shounen. If you want some badass female characters, try watching Shoujo instead

Anime_Freak01022 said:
Shonen=BOY

So,there you have it, if you want solid female characters rather than male characters,shoujo is literally made for it.

kizumi91 said:
That's why it's called Shounen. If you want some badass female characters, try watching Shoujo instead

Sakuta002766 said:

Your thread is already pretty cringe and now you're insulting mangakas by calling them incels

Schwarznight said:
How come mangakas are incapable of creating solid female characters. Take Kishimoto (mangaka of Naruto) for example. Literally every female in his show just exists to be a love interest or to be protected. Sakura is weak af, all things considered. Tsunade is a pathetic Hokage. The coolest and strongest characters are the guys. The most complex characters tend to be guys (take Itachi...Pain...etc, as an example). This is not a problem that is exclusive to Naruto either. What happened to solid female characters, who are complex, and who could wreck their male counterparts? Even the female characters from AoT are garbage overall when compared to the best male characters.

Claymore was okay, though.

NekoZamurai said:
I don't know I've never seen any trash female besides Sakura Haruno.

Short_Circut said:
It's okay, the females in shoujo/josei are just as trash too

Schwarznight said:


lmfao. Sakura.

Mikasa from AoT is also garbage, though.

"Ehreeeeeeeeen" x 1000. Smfh. Useless character. Just a dollar store version of Levi.

Faozan_ said:
Another bait thread but this time we have OP insulting the authors as well

Phosphophyllita said:
You should try watching battle shoujo then, there the women are the protagonists and the men are generic.

If you think that Itachi is complex, well... I might have bad news for you.

Schwarznight said:


Not bait. Tell me how Isayama from AoT wrote good females? I am waiting. Explain to me Mikasa's function...Or Historia's? I am convinced that Isayama is an incel.

Faozan_ said:
bro really asking me to explain about aot as if I didn't give it a 1//10, anyway, historia or mikasa don't have to be "good written" because the story isn't about them and they play a minor role in it so Isayama will obviously only write their character as much as the story demands

Schwarznight said:


That's flawed logic, but whatever... No reason for women to be that weak and pathetic, tbh. It's fiction. You can make them stronger and more complex if you want. Instead, they are just sexualised and used for fanservice...or in secondary roles.

Schwarznight said:



Oda is no exception either. A lot of trash female characters with ridiculous body proportions. Bust size keeps getting larger. Let's face it...Most of the male mangakas just can't create good female characters. It's a fact.

Schwarznight said:


Still, I think Isayama must have a hatred for women to create such diabolical female characters. Mikasa is a slave to Eren. Take away her skills and she is nothing. Even in the skills department, she is a weaker Levi. She literally exists to say "Eren". History got impregnated by her childhood bully and served no function after that...kicked out of the story. Mikasa cannot get over Eren despite his crimes. Yeah, Isayama must hate females. I am convinced.

A_G_N said:
Tsunade was fine dude? What are you talking about? I think that entire "kishimoto stating he doesn't know how to write females", is meant for a romantic scenario. People just took it like he doesn't know in general. There are some decent females in Naruto, it's not all bad.

But the female thing isn't exclusive to shonen. It's more of - anime in general has that in majority loads.

Infact shonen ones are probably better, just on the fact that they're more normal and less weebish compared to the weeb cutefest cringefest like Mai, Kaguya, Rem or whatever that gets to the top list of female slut list in MAL. Exceptions apply(like Mikasa, the hollywood version of "great female character")

Not saying shonen isn't bad now, but it's definitely better in comparison. In shonen, it's more like - if the females are braindead, then the males are too.

Females outside of shonen generally only are liked/loved because they were cute, sexy, devote their entire life to the mc(which the weebs would orgasm to, because they obviously self inserted)

Rarely will you find "character writing" to be the reason. And the characters like Emilia or Mai - where the author tries to bait with the "it's all about her writing", usually end up being done so badly. And the females end up having no standards.

The female hides behind the writing wall intially, when it actuality she is still there for the sole reason for the mc(and the weebs) to plunge their dick into.

It's astonishing how low it is, the number of females in anime that I respect enough to see that they have a character and a standard as a human being.

Schwarznight said:
What happened to solid female characters, who are complex, and who could wreck their male counterparts?

Zanfroni said:
"What happened to solid female characters, who are complex, and who could wreck their male counterparts?"

I'm guessing your standard for a strong female character is a character that can wreck a male, even if she's a poorly written Mary Sue.

Minute_Hand said:
"tsunade is pathetic hokage"
Lmao , there isn't anything wrong with tsunade you are just retarded.

I am pretty much convinced this is a bait thread , but still I would like to give you a chance.

what do you believe to be a well written female character in anime / manga , give me 5/6 examples. I don't get it , A female character needs to be stronger than their male counterparts to be considered well written, is that what you're trying to say?

Sifu_Hotman_ said:
I think this is true for the older shounen like naruto or death note, but newer shounens have gotten better with great females casts like black clover, jjk, chainsaw man, hell's paradise.

Phosphophyllita said:
You should try watching battle shoujo then, there the women are the protagonists and the men are generic.

If you think that Itachi is complex, well... I might have bad news for you.

venuxes said:
I think that this is due to the Japanese society's view of women, until now it views women in a limited framework - dependent on those around her, a lover leaning on her boyfriend - these are the images that the Japanese want to see women in, they like women to remain in the place of need for men, I do not say about Japanese men they are bad or set up a conspiracy to objectifying women, but I think they are satisfied just because these models are always on TV.

I think this is all reflected in what the mangaka write because they are nothing more than a product of their community.

Schwarznight said:


No. Stop assuming. That is just one aspect. Increase their power...in battle shounen...And add depth. Never mentioned Mary Sue

SageModeTice said:
If you think anyone cares about your opinion on the complexity of Itachi's character... Well I might have some bad news for you...

Sifu_Hotman_ said:
I think this is true for the older shounen like naruto or death note, but newer shounens have gotten better with great females casts like black clover, jjk, chainsaw man, hell's paradise.

Schwarznight said:


lmao. that's funny. i think most male mangakas are incels

Zanfroni said:




"Stop assuming", yet here's a quote from yourself located in this thread: "Yeah, Isayama must hate females. I am convinced.". Another user asked you to provide examples of what you consider to be well written shounen females, and you didn't provide any.

I'm convinced this thread is bait. I'm done.

Slimsith said:
Naruto? AoT? (Annie Leonhart is cool as fuck)

What about Black Lagoon and Re:Creators?

Whispered Words was alright for a girl anime, much better than Sailor Moon.

Maybe it's drugs or limited access to porn, who knows.

Schwarznight said:
i think most male mangakas are incels