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Aug 4, 2021 1:42 AM
#1
I feel like people in the community just can't seem to respect other people's taste & I'm just sick of it. I've asked questions & I've just brought up stuff I personally don't like in anime & then I get a bunch of people offended & being rude. Like when I said I'm not comfortable with under age characters being sexualised, a bunch of people had a go at me because they're not real when I really think if I'm uncomfortable with it, that should be respected. I also once said that you can think young anime girls are cute without being turned on & I had a bunch of people having a go. I've also said I don't like ecchi or hentai or even nudity in general & people think I must be a kid, or they just insult me. You don't have to be a kid, or gay or female to be uncomfortable with ecchi or hentai. Why can't people get this? I never said they can't like it. Why do they feel offended just cuz I don't like something that they like? |
wazzupdogAug 4, 2021 2:08 AM
Aug 4, 2021 1:43 AM
#2
It's simple. They are insecure of themselves and they crave for attention. |
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Aug 4, 2021 1:49 AM
#3
Well there’s no fandom without a milligram of toxicity in them. |
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Aug 4, 2021 1:50 AM
#4
Because it's simple people act like either trolls or children. It's sad but it's more rare to talk to decent people when it comes to anime. You are right this is one thing I can't stand about the anime community as a whole. I got attacked for voicing my opinion on popular anime I didn't enjoy several times. People act like their opinion is the only one that matters and forget that others have opinions too. |
Aug 4, 2021 1:52 AM
#5
It's not just Fandom. Any Fanboy is too boring, even toxic. |
Aug 4, 2021 1:53 AM
#6
This goes for just about any fandom really. No Fandom is anything without its toxicity, and why you may ask? Well that's for you find out... |
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Aug 4, 2021 2:01 AM
#7
well, what do you expect to find in a fandom centered around a form of escapism like anime? especially anime, since there are many shows that attract people like you mentioned above... |
Aug 4, 2021 2:03 AM
#8
Aug 4, 2021 2:08 AM
#9
wazzupdog said: I feel like people in the community just can't seem to respect other people's taste & I'm just sick of it. I've asked questions & I've just brought up stuff I personally don't like in anime & then I get a bunch of people offended & being rude. Like when I said I'm not comfortable with under age characters being nude, a bunch of people had a go at me because they're not real when I really think if I'm uncomfortable with it, that should be respected. I also once said that you can think young anime girls are cute without being turned on & I had a bunch of people having a go. I've also said I don't like ecchi or hentai & people think I must be a kid, or they just insult me. You don't have to be a kid, or gay or female to be uncomfortable with ecchi or hentai. Why can't people get this? I never said they can't like it. Why do they feel offended just cuz I don't like something that they like? I dont like watching hentai or ecchi as well but people cant seem to respect others opinions thinking that they are always correct. |
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Aug 4, 2021 2:10 AM
#10
You just answered your own question. People are less tolerant and accepting of other's opinions and tastes, so they start making assumptions or attack you. |
samashi20Aug 4, 2021 2:17 AM
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Aug 4, 2021 2:12 AM
#11
because many anime fans are teenagers and tend to care a bit too much |
Aug 4, 2021 2:21 AM
#12
My guess is that it's an age thing, and it's a shame really, because this is my favorite form of entertainment. |
Aug 4, 2021 2:28 AM
#13
People are sensitive these days. Same case, there are people who call other people who like loli a pedo. They should just say they disagree but no, they have to play the pedo card. In the end, to live together in harmony without toxicity will never be more than a pipe dream. Best to just roll with it. |
Aug 4, 2021 2:29 AM
#14
Yuu_Kanzaki said: People are sensitive these days. Same case, there are people who call other people who like loli a pedo. They should just say they disagree but no, they have to play the pedo card. In the end, to live together in harmony without toxicity will never be more than a pipe dream. Best to just roll with it. Yes!! This one also drives me mad. Like even though I'm not attracted to lolis I still think they're adorable & I love them for their cuteness. But I've seen some people say I must be a pedo just because I like them. |
wazzupdogAug 4, 2021 2:33 AM
Aug 4, 2021 2:29 AM
#15
“Do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing, and you'll never be criticized. “ -Elbert Hubbert I don't get why you get offended of the loli troupes and hentai though. If you don't like it why watch it? You can't really change the world by just complaining about it. that's why most SJW look like idiots. If there is a market for it content like that will continue to exist, you know. |
removed-userAug 4, 2021 2:33 AM
Aug 4, 2021 2:32 AM
#16
I like toxic people some of them take anime personally and can't handle criticism, man I love triggering them. |
Aug 4, 2021 2:43 AM
#17
Aug 4, 2021 4:39 AM
#18
not only anime. the game of thrones fandom is/was also toxic. gaming fandoms like the last of us... i don't even want to think about it. the Marvel movie fandom, don't get me started. the Harry Potter fandom, so much hypocrites and simps for Emma Watson. and so on and so on. every popular book, movie, game, series with many people has also toxic people in it. |
Aug 4, 2021 4:47 AM
#19
If you're uncomfortable with underaged characters being sexualized, keep it to yourself. There is no such thing as "toxicity," that's just human nature. |
Aug 4, 2021 4:59 AM
#20
Aug 4, 2021 5:11 AM
#21
Every fandom is toxic. Don't post your unpopular opinion if you are not ready to handle the backlash... |
Aug 4, 2021 5:22 AM
#22
All fandom have toxicity on it. Some are quiet because it's not that popular and others are noisy due to being mainstream. It's all about releasing toxins, frequently or not. |
Aug 4, 2021 5:28 AM
#23
Because a lot of anime fans are insecure of their own taste and all and the online community provides anonymity. I also experienced that haters in online communities incite each other into more and more hate. That's why I avoid bubbles of all kinds and all. They are toxic af and most people in them can't think in grey morality and nuances anymore. They are the breeding ground for fanatics and anime fandoms aren't so much different. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:18 AM
#24
JYX said: If you're uncomfortable with underaged characters being sexualized, keep it to yourself. There is no such thing as "toxicity," that's just human nature. No. Everyone should be free to share their likes and dislikes in any fandom. Just like people that don't like Naruto should be free to say they don't like it & people that don't like incest anime should be free to say. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:19 AM
#25
_Maneki-Neko_ said: Because a lot of anime fans are insecure of their own taste and all and the online community provides anonymity. I also experienced that haters in online communities incite each other into more and more hate. That's why I avoid bubbles of all kinds and all. They are toxic af and most people in them can't think in grey morality and nuances anymore. They are the breeding ground for fanatics and anime fandoms aren't so much different. That Makes a lot of sense. Thank you. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:21 AM
#26
StenlyDesu said: “Do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing, and you'll never be criticized. “ -Elbert Hubbert I don't get why you get offended of the loli troupes and hentai though. If you don't like it why watch it? You can't really change the world by just complaining about it. that's why most SJW look like idiots. If there is a market for it content like that will continue to exist, you know. I don't watch it. I just made a post asking for a censored version of Mirai Nikki & people attacked me for it. It's not about being offended. You can watch whatever you want but other people have no right to tell me what I should & shouldn't like. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:22 AM
#27
Aug 4, 2021 7:26 AM
#28
You're entitled to feel however you want to feel. As long as you're not imposing your views on anyone or trying to judge anyone who may have different opinions, then I don't see the problem. I personally think it can go both ways though. I think people who are against sexualization and fanservice can be just as toxic and annoying as those who may not think about it too much. There's nothing wrong with feeling morally guilty for liking that kind of stuff. But I hate how these type of people want to value shame others. Not everyone looks for realism in anime. For some, it's a form of escape. So they may not pay much attention to certain things that are portrayed because it's fictional to them. |
removed-userAug 4, 2021 7:33 AM
Aug 4, 2021 7:27 AM
#29
Fruscio said: That's toxic? That seems like normal behavior from people who know what they're talking about. But sure, calling out tastes might come off as toxic if you care enough of their heeds. How so? Why should I be judged for I like & don't like? |
Aug 4, 2021 7:28 AM
#30
the more you love the more you hate because "hate is born to protect love" - Uchiha Madara |
Aug 4, 2021 7:29 AM
#31
LordSozin said: They'll grow up and realize their stupidity. I certainly do hope they will realise in time - I really do |
Aug 4, 2021 7:36 AM
#32
wazzupdog said: JYX said: If you're uncomfortable with underaged characters being sexualized, keep it to yourself. There is no such thing as "toxicity," that's just human nature. No. Everyone should be free to share their likes and dislikes in any fandom. Just like people that don't like Naruto should be free to say they don't like it & people that don't like incest anime should be free to say. You're free to criticise anything as long as your claim is objective. If something makes you feel uncomfortable then that's subjective. No one cares about your feelings. Free speech doesn't mean just keep yapping, you know that right? |
Aug 4, 2021 7:37 AM
#33
Anime Fandom are toxic because they think they are superior to one another and when there are legit 1000s of series then there is no way to check the harm they are doing to fandom, also no one can take any kind of criticism no matter if it's positive, forget positive critcism dude, the clowns here at one point can't even stay sane after hearing or seeing an opinion like that's the amount of butt hurt they are like if you say something they will be like "oH sToP hYpInG" and if you don't talk then they will go "sToP sLeEpiNg on TheM". Problem is weeb can't stay happy at any thing and majority of people who treat anime/manga like a gospel need to touch some grass as this is not something special it's just way to get you entertainment, sure you learn things from anime but it doesn't excuse your douche ass behaviour on internet, there is a reason why everyone hate anime fandom in general as all are toxic and think they are special. Just go to forums of anime discussions and there you will see 14-25 yr old criticising anime or manga and after sometime it will turn to personal insults, it so funny and best popcorn worthy drama. Forget that, this thread is live example of how toxic anime fandoms are. Plus toxicity is in every fandom and no matter what but here it takes the cake as everyone goes for the throat. One other fandom which is as toxic as anime fandom or could be more toxic is KPOP Fandoms. i would gladly be part of anime fandom rather being part of kpop ones, they are unbearable. |
Tats_Spill_TeaAug 4, 2021 7:42 AM
2025 might be the year where I will be happy. This year is not happy year. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:41 AM
#34
JYX said: wazzupdog said: JYX said: If you're uncomfortable with underaged characters being sexualized, keep it to yourself. There is no such thing as "toxicity," that's just human nature. No. Everyone should be free to share their likes and dislikes in any fandom. Just like people that don't like Naruto should be free to say they don't like it & people that don't like incest anime should be free to say. You're free to criticise anything as long as your claim is objective. If something makes you feel uncomfortable then that's subjective. No one cares about your feelings. Free speech doesn't mean just keep yapping, you know that right? Disagree. Opinions are subjective & should equally be respected. I'm also not the only one who's not comfortable with sexualised kids. Loads of people aren't & some of them take it way further than I do. When someone attacks a person because they like anime kids, this is just as bad as attacking someone who doesn't like it. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:43 AM
#35
MazinIndian said: Anime Fandom are toxic because they think they are superior to one another and when there are legit 1000s of series then there is no way to check the harm they are doing to fandom, also no one can take any kind of criticism no matter if it's positive, forget positive critcism dude, the clowns here at one point can't even stay sane after hearing or seeing an opinion like that's the amount of butt hurt they are like if you say something they will be like "oH sToP hYpInG" and if you don't talk then they will go "sToP sLeEpiNg on TheM". Problem is weeb can't stay happy at any thing and majority of people who treat anime/manga like a gospel need to touch some grass as this is not something special it's just way to get you entertainment, sure you learn things from anime but it doesn't excuse your douche ass behaviour on internet, there is a reason why everyone hate anime fandom in general as all are toxic and think they are special. Just go to forums of anime discussions and there you will see 14-25 yr old criticising anime or manga and after sometime it will turn to personal insults, it so funny and best popcorn worthy drama. Forget that, this thread is live example of how toxic anime fandoms are. Plus toxicity is in every fandom and no matter what but here it takes the cake as everyone goes for the throat. One other fandom which is as toxic as anime fandom or could be more toxic is KPOP Fandoms. i would gladly be part of anime fandom rather being part of kpop ones, they are unbearable. You are definitely correct. They get extremely toxic. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:50 AM
#36
wazzupdog said: Like when I said I'm not comfortable with under age characters being sexualised, a bunch of people had a go at me because they're not real when I really think if I'm uncomfortable with it, that should be respected. I also once said that you can think young anime girls are cute without being turned on & I had a bunch of people having a go. I've also said I don't like ecchi or hentai or even nudity in general & people think I must be a kid, or they just insult me. You don't have to be a kid, or gay or female to be uncomfortable with ecchi or hentai. Why can't people get this? I never said they can't like it. Why do they feel offended just cuz I don't like something that they like? culture wars man between the west and japan, the west is saying japan is pedophilia culture with their lolicon and sex culture but still rape crimes are rare in japan and heck there is a sexless epidemic going on there too despite what the west think of them well you said it yourself everyone should be free to share what they like or dislike including what they think of others likes or dislikes free speech does not mean right to be heard either |
Aug 4, 2021 7:51 AM
#37
wazzupdog said: JYX said: wazzupdog said: JYX said: If you're uncomfortable with underaged characters being sexualized, keep it to yourself. There is no such thing as "toxicity," that's just human nature. No. Everyone should be free to share their likes and dislikes in any fandom. Just like people that don't like Naruto should be free to say they don't like it & people that don't like incest anime should be free to say. You're free to criticise anything as long as your claim is objective. If something makes you feel uncomfortable then that's subjective. No one cares about your feelings. Free speech doesn't mean just keep yapping, you know that right? Disagree. Opinions are subjective & should equally be respected. I'm also not the only one who's not comfortable with sexualised kids. Loads of people aren't & some of them take it way further than I do. When someone attacks a person because they like anime kids, this is just as bad as attacking someone who doesn't like it. Why should opinions be respected? Anyone can say anything but not everyone can back it up. You didn't even elaborate on why opinions should be respected. Did you even read what I said? You can't just dismiss everything I told you because you disagree. How many people think like you is irrelevant to the discussion, this is between you and me, no one else. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:53 AM
#38
Fruscio said: wazzupdog said: Why are you going out of your way to dismiss something people don't want to hear in the first place? Looking at your post it seems like you weren't looking for recs but rather just blogging it out the things you don't appreciate in an attempt to perhaps find other people of your kind. Especially when talking to lolis and ecchi, already controversial topics to begin with. You talk about how the community being toxic, yet your very own topics come off as toxic and disingenuous given the issues they often delineate.Fruscio said: That's toxic? That seems like normal behavior from people who know what they're talking about. But sure, calling out tastes might come off as toxic if you care enough of their heeds. How so? Why should I be judged for I like & don't like? No! Saying that I don't like stuff is not toxic. What's toxic is being rude to others based on their taste, which I'm not. |
Aug 4, 2021 7:55 AM
#39
JYX said: wazzupdog said: JYX said: wazzupdog said: JYX said: If you're uncomfortable with underaged characters being sexualized, keep it to yourself. There is no such thing as "toxicity," that's just human nature. No. Everyone should be free to share their likes and dislikes in any fandom. Just like people that don't like Naruto should be free to say they don't like it & people that don't like incest anime should be free to say. You're free to criticise anything as long as your claim is objective. If something makes you feel uncomfortable then that's subjective. No one cares about your feelings. Free speech doesn't mean just keep yapping, you know that right? Disagree. Opinions are subjective & should equally be respected. I'm also not the only one who's not comfortable with sexualised kids. Loads of people aren't & some of them take it way further than I do. When someone attacks a person because they like anime kids, this is just as bad as attacking someone who doesn't like it. Why should opinions be respected? Anyone can say anything but not everyone can back it up. You didn't even elaborate on why opinions should be respected. Did you even read what I said? You can't just dismiss everything I told you because you disagree. How many people think like you is irrelevant to the discussion, this is between you and me, no one else. You can't help what you don't enjoy watching. No one should force you to, regardless of whether its objective or not. |
Aug 4, 2021 8:09 AM
#40
Those kinds of anime fans (which I guess is a large portion of them) are just self absorbed. That's what comes from indulging in escapist fantasy all of the time and treating your freedom to consume the products you like as paramount in life over the circumstances of the real world and the feelings of other people. They think that expressing your opinion is a literal affront to their identity and wellbeing if your opinion is somehow critical of a thing they like. There's no greater sin than saying what you honestly think about a thing they like if it's a negative thought, because it's their RIGHT to consume fantasy without ever considering other peoples' opinions about it. Sounds to me like they want the real world to transform into their own personal escapist fantasy too. In anime their desires are catered to, in the real world they don't want to hear other peoples' opinions unless they agree with them. |
Aug 4, 2021 8:09 AM
#41
deg said: wazzupdog said: Like when I said I'm not comfortable with under age characters being sexualised, a bunch of people had a go at me because they're not real when I really think if I'm uncomfortable with it, that should be respected. I also once said that you can think young anime girls are cute without being turned on & I had a bunch of people having a go. I've also said I don't like ecchi or hentai or even nudity in general & people think I must be a kid, or they just insult me. You don't have to be a kid, or gay or female to be uncomfortable with ecchi or hentai. Why can't people get this? I never said they can't like it. Why do they feel offended just cuz I don't like something that they like? culture wars man between the west and japan, the west is saying japan is pedophilia culture with their lolicon and sex culture but still rape crimes are rare in japan and heck there is a sexless epidemic going on there too despite what the west think of them well you said it yourself everyone should be free to share what they like or dislike including what they think of others likes or dislikes free speech does not mean right to be heard either But there is a line. Anime isn't a person. You should never insult a person who has feelings. I'm not saying people can't express how they disagree but they're crossing a line when they start attacking you for what you don't like or saying "Your opinion is invalid". |
Aug 4, 2021 8:12 AM
#42
ohohohohohoho said: Those kinds of anime fans (which I guess is a large portion of them) are just self absorbed. That's what comes from indulging in escapist fantasy all of the time and treating your freedom to consume the products you like as paramount in life over the circumstances of the real world and the feelings of other people. They think that expressing your opinion is a literal affront to their identity and wellbeing if your opinion is somehow critical of a thing they like. There's no greater sin than saying what you honestly think about a thing they like if it's a negative thought, because it's their RIGHT to consume fantasy without ever considering other peoples' opinions about it. Sounds to me like they want the real world to transform into their own personal escapist fantasy too. In anime their desires are catered to, in the real world they don't want to hear other peoples' opinions unless they agree with them. Yes it's completely ridiculous but I think you're right. |
Aug 4, 2021 8:13 AM
#43
wazzupdog said: deg said: wazzupdog said: Like when I said I'm not comfortable with under age characters being sexualised, a bunch of people had a go at me because they're not real when I really think if I'm uncomfortable with it, that should be respected. I also once said that you can think young anime girls are cute without being turned on & I had a bunch of people having a go. I've also said I don't like ecchi or hentai or even nudity in general & people think I must be a kid, or they just insult me. You don't have to be a kid, or gay or female to be uncomfortable with ecchi or hentai. Why can't people get this? I never said they can't like it. Why do they feel offended just cuz I don't like something that they like? culture wars man between the west and japan, the west is saying japan is pedophilia culture with their lolicon and sex culture but still rape crimes are rare in japan and heck there is a sexless epidemic going on there too despite what the west think of them well you said it yourself everyone should be free to share what they like or dislike including what they think of others likes or dislikes free speech does not mean right to be heard either But there is a line. Anime isn't a person. You should never insult a person who has feelings. I'm not saying people can't express how they disagree but they're crossing a line when they start attacking you for what you don't like or saying "Your opinion is invalid". if they use insults at you then report them since its against the forum rules or you can ignore them too since its not worth it and like i said free speech does not mean right to be heard so you should not hear them anymore too especially if its a repeated offense of the same user |
Aug 4, 2021 8:14 AM
#44
Fruscio said: wazzupdog said: You yourself are creating the environment for toxicity to occur and the topics you chose are no small of importance and repercussion either, easily meant to rile-up people. I consider that worse than people taste-shaming you, which happens all the time, and only precarious people complain about these individuals.Fruscio said: wazzupdog said: Why are you going out of your way to dismiss something people don't want to hear in the first place? Looking at your post it seems like you weren't looking for recs but rather just blogging it out the things you don't appreciate in an attempt to perhaps find other people of your kind. Especially when talking to lolis and ecchi, already controversial topics to begin with. You talk about how the community being toxic, yet your very own topics come off as toxic and disingenuous given the issues they often delineate.Fruscio said: That's toxic? That seems like normal behavior from people who know what they're talking about. But sure, calling out tastes might come off as toxic if you care enough of their heeds. How so? Why should I be judged for I like & don't like? No! Saying that I don't like stuff is not toxic. What's toxic is being rude to others based on their taste, which I'm not. It is never my intention to rile people up. I just like to discuss like civilised people who can remain respectful. People just get offended over opinion they don't agree with which honestly isn't my fault. |
Aug 4, 2021 8:15 AM
#45
The fanboys and fandoms are just a bunch of brainless idiots. Ignore them |
Aug 4, 2021 8:15 AM
#46
deg said: wazzupdog said: deg said: wazzupdog said: Like when I said I'm not comfortable with under age characters being sexualised, a bunch of people had a go at me because they're not real when I really think if I'm uncomfortable with it, that should be respected. I also once said that you can think young anime girls are cute without being turned on & I had a bunch of people having a go. I've also said I don't like ecchi or hentai or even nudity in general & people think I must be a kid, or they just insult me. You don't have to be a kid, or gay or female to be uncomfortable with ecchi or hentai. Why can't people get this? I never said they can't like it. Why do they feel offended just cuz I don't like something that they like? culture wars man between the west and japan, the west is saying japan is pedophilia culture with their lolicon and sex culture but still rape crimes are rare in japan and heck there is a sexless epidemic going on there too despite what the west think of them well you said it yourself everyone should be free to share what they like or dislike including what they think of others likes or dislikes free speech does not mean right to be heard either But there is a line. Anime isn't a person. You should never insult a person who has feelings. I'm not saying people can't express how they disagree but they're crossing a line when they start attacking you for what you don't like or saying "Your opinion is invalid". if they use insults at you then report them since its against the forum rules or you can ignore them too since its not worth it and like i said free speech does not mean right to be heard so you should not hear them anymore too especially if its a repeated offense of the same user Okay I will try to take this into consideratrion. I suffer with anxiety disorder & low self esteem, so when I feel I've been attacked for an unfair reason, I feel it's injustice. |
Aug 10, 2021 10:02 AM
#47
Aug 10, 2021 7:23 PM
#48
People that say things like "Why can anyone like this?" or "I can't understand why people love this" basically a lowless human being who can't respect other people opinions therefore they make the forum looks toxic, throwing hate without proper reasoning especially with only bs words. |
Aug 10, 2021 8:20 PM
#49
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and feelings. With that said I do have to agree the anime/manga community is quick to come after people who don't think like them. One big reason is that a large part of the community is young and simply has not developed the appropriate social skills needed to deal with these kinds of situations - I mean this with good intentions. Once upon a time I was a cringey teenager who did stupid things too. |
Aug 10, 2021 11:06 PM
#50
Because they all have Superiority Complex |
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