| Don’t think if you are vaccinated and live in an area with higher vaccination rates that the Covid story is over. “If you have states that are hotspots for Covid, it puts everybody at risk,” said Labus. That’s because pockets of unvaccinated people are petri dishes for the Covid-19 virus to spread and mutate. “The more people that the virus infects, the better and better that the virus is going to get at infecting people,” said Erin Mordecai, PhD, a biology professor at Stanford University. Mordecai tells us to imagine the virus buying a lottery ticket with every new infection. Sure, each individual infection has a low chance of becoming a mutation that spreads across the world. But more infections means more lottery tickets and more chances the virus has to win—and winning for the virus means becoming more contagious and able to pierce the effectiveness of our vaccines. more here https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/anti-vaxxers-could-helping-create-105000576.html https://www.menshealth.com/health/a37069291/anti-vax-spreads-variants/ yep more infections then more chances of mutation or evolution for the virus #HerdImmunityNow this is a great in depth video about this too here https://youtu.be/Ha6yUxze1vk |
degJul 21, 2021 9:12 AM
| No, stop fear-mongering and watch this instead: https://odysee.com/@OzFlor:7/BU:f The best immunity is already ingrained in our bodies and it's called "immune system" |
Noboru said: The best immunity is already ingrained in our bodies and it's called "immune system" again viruses evolve faster than the human immune system thats why vaccines are needed to help speed up the improvement of the human immune system that way |
deg said: Watch the video and stop talking if you have no idea how the immune system worksNoboru said: The best immunity is already ingrained in our bodies and it's called "immune system" again viruses evolve faster than the human immune system thats why vaccines are needed to help speed up the improvement of the human immune system that way |
Noboru said: deg said: Watch the video and stop talking if you have no idea how the immune system worksagain viruses evolve faster than the human immune system thats why vaccines are needed to help speed up the improvement of the human immune system that way >Erin Mordecai, PhD, a biology professor at Stanford University he knows more than us |
deg said: Noboru said: Watch the video and stop talking if you have no idea how the immune system works >Erin Mordecai, PhD, a biology professor at Stanford University he knows more than us It's a "she" and I'd be very wary about anyone praising experimental vaccines for something that is not needed |
| These anti vaxxers are just ignorant, stupid fools, and mostly backwards rednecks who don't listen to reason anyway, the more of these people who die out from Covid, the better, but they are putting others at risk though. |
| By that logic, vaccined people would be the ones promoting the proliferation of the most resistant (and therefore more dangerous) mutations, since their bodies are specifically more hostile to the disease. As had already happened with diseases becoming antibiotic-resistant due to overuse of antibiotics. But what do I expect from something sourced from menshealth.com |
Slawadia said: By that logic, vaccined people would be the ones promoting the proliferation of the most resistant (and therefore more dangerous) mutations, since their bodies are specifically more hostile to the disease. As had already happened with diseases becoming antibiotic-resistant due to overuse of antibiotics. But what do I expect from something sourced from menshealth.com A virus needs a host in order to multiply (and therefore evolve), bacteria does not. |
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| There's something deeply amusing about the fact that literally the first reply to this is an anti-vax imbecile. In any case, the world is so constrained by the limited supplies of vaccines that at least in this particular case their stupidity is not major threat, quite simply because there are still likely billions that would happily vaccinate but are unable to. So even if those buffoons didn't exist, there would be plenty of people for the virus to mutate on. |
| Engaging with those so clearly beneath you achieves nothing but lowering yourself to their level. |
Narmy said: Slawadia said: By that logic, vaccined people would be the ones promoting the proliferation of the most resistant (and therefore more dangerous) mutations, since their bodies are specifically more hostile to the disease. As had already happened with diseases becoming antibiotic-resistant due to overuse of antibiotics. But what do I expect from something sourced from menshealth.com A virus needs a host in order to multiply (and therefore evolve), bacteria does not. And vaccined people can still get covid. |
Noboru said: No, stop fear-mongering and watch this instead: https://odysee.com/@OzFlor:7/BU:f The best immunity is already ingrained in our bodies and it's called "immune system" Glad to see common sense people on MAL. Not everyone is an idiot who wants to be injected by a rushed vaccine, that was proven to cause complications on multiple occasion, and is also useless anyway. Lul new variant next week gotta inject myself with more shit !!!111 |
once youre vaccinated your body kills the virus more better than unvaccinated people so less chances of the virus mutating vaccinated people normally have mild symptoms only if they get the virus so that is the sign that their body kills the virus more easily so again less chances of the virus from mutating via multiplying |
But they are less likely. Less people who get it = less mutations. |
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deg said: once youre vaccinated your body kills the virus more better than unvaccinated people so less chances of the virus mutating vaccinated people normally have mild symptoms only if they get the virus so that is the hint that their body kills the virus more easily so again less chances of the virus from mutating via multiplying I'll simplify it for you: -some virus exists -host receives vaccination that kills 99.99% of the virus. -remaining 00.01% of the virus that survives somehow, usually via a mutation. -the surviving virus proliferates in the vaccinated body, filling the void that the dead viruses left -the host is now carrying a vaccine resistant/immune mutation of the virus, and is ready to spread to both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people darwinism basically while it's true that this process also occurs in unvaccinated people, my point is that vaccinated people are the ones that may be accelerating the evolution of dangerous vaccine-resistant ones. don't get me wrong, I support vaccination. and I plan on getting vaccinated for covid myself eventually. just sharing my 2 cents. |
SlawadiaJul 20, 2021 7:22 PM
Slawadia said: deg said: once youre vaccinated your body kills the virus more better than unvaccinated people so less chances of the virus mutating vaccinated people normally have mild symptoms only if they get the virus so that is the hint that their body kills the virus more easily so again less chances of the virus from mutating via multiplying I'll simplify it for you: -some virus exists -host receives vaccination that kills 99.99% of the virus. -remaining 00.01% of the virus that survives somehow, usually via a mutation. -the surviving virus proliferates in the vaccinated body, filling the void that the dead viruses left -the host is now carrying a vaccine resistant/immune mutation of the virus, and is ready to spread to both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people darwinism basically while it's true that this process also occurs in unvaccinated people, my point is that vaccinated people are the ones that may be accelerating the evolution of dangerous vaccine-resistant ones. don't get me wrong, I support vaccination. and I plan on getting vaccinated myself eventually. just sharing my 2 cents. no its not there are less viruses inside an infected vaccinated patient with mild symptoms so less chances of mutation viruses mutate the more it multiplies EDIT: quick google and it confirms it The major reason that viruses evolve faster than say, mosquitoes or snakes or bed bugs, is because they multiply faster than other organisms. And that means every new individual is an opportunity for new mutations as they make a copy of their genetic material. https://www.vox.com/2014/6/27/5846900/how-viruses-stay-one-step-ahead-of-our-efforts-to-kill-them |
degJul 20, 2021 7:25 PM
its wrong to think that there are more mutations in a vaccinated person though especially deadly variant mutations heck there is level of immunity on vaccinated people so less chance of them getting covid in the first place related Unvaccinated people don't only risk their own health: Their bodies become 'variant factories' https://www.businessinsider.com/unvaccinated-people-are-variant-factories-disease-expert-says-2021-7 |
deg said: Slawadia said: I'll simplify it for you: -some virus exists -host receives vaccination that kills 99.99% of the virus. -remaining 00.01% of the virus that survives somehow, usually via a mutation. -the surviving virus proliferates in the vaccinated body, filling the void that the dead viruses left -the host is now carrying a vaccine resistant/immune mutation of the virus, and is ready to spread to both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people darwinism basically while it's true that this process also occurs in unvaccinated people, my point is that vaccinated people are the ones that may be accelerating the evolution of dangerous vaccine-resistant ones. don't get me wrong, I support vaccination. and I plan on getting vaccinated myself eventually. just sharing my 2 cents. no its not there are less viruses inside an infected vaccinated patient with mild symptoms so less chances of mutation viruses mutate the more it multiplies EDIT: quick google and it confirms it The major reason that viruses evolve faster than say, mosquitoes or snakes or bed bugs, is because they multiply faster than other organisms. And that means every new individual is an opportunity for new mutations as they make a copy of their genetic material. https://www.vox.com/2014/6/27/5846900/how-viruses-stay-one-step-ahead-of-our-efforts-to-kill-them I wasn't arguing that they weren't mutating from multiplying. Nor was I saying that mutation doesn't occur in unvaccinated people. Please re-read my post. No need to post things everyone already knows. |
deg said: its wrong to think that there are more mutations in a vaccinated person though especially deadly variant mutations where did I say there are more mutations in vaccinated people |
Slawadia said: deg said: its wrong to think that there are more mutations in a vaccinated person though especially deadly variant mutations where did I say there are more mutations in vaccinated people you said the surviving virus will proliferate inside the body of the vaccinated people hence multiply more then more mutations will happen |
deg said: you said the surviving virus will proliferate inside the body of the vaccinated people hence multiply more then more mutations will happen That's a misunderstanding then. Do you know what darwinism means? It is essentially like a filter. In this case the filter is the vaccinated body. Instances of the virus that enter said body typically die. This is the good scenario. But the problem is viruses mutate, not all instances of the viruses are the same. In the rare chance that a virus survives the filter, that instance of the virus now has free rein to multiply and spread to other vaccinated hosts. That's my point. That dangerous vaccine-resistant mutations of the viruses are likely to come from a vaccinated host. But nowhere in this thread did I imply that this is means mutations only occur, or occur more often, in vaccinated hosts. Nor that this means you shouldn't get vaccinated. It's been proven time and again that vaccination works (treats existing diseases like measles and dengue, or even better, causes viruses to be come entirely extinct like smallpox ). No shit that if there's more viruses, as a consequence of more hosts(unvaccinated), means more mutation. Everyone knows that. That wasn't my point. The solution to viruses evolving is to simply develop new treatments for the new variant after all. I'm arguing specifically about what I consider the most dangerous ones, which are the vaccine immune/resistant mutations, which again, are logically more likely to come from a vaccinated host. I'm just criticizing the logic of the article. |
SlawadiaJul 20, 2021 7:51 PM
Slawadia said: .deg said: you said the surviving virus will proliferate inside the body of the vaccinated people hence multiply more then more mutations will happen That's a misunderstanding then. Do you know what darwinism means? It is essentially like a filter. In this case the filter is the vaccinated body. Instances of the virus that enter said body typically die. This is the good scenario. But the problem is viruses mutate, not all instances of the viruses are the same. In the rare chance that a virus survives the filter, that instance of the virus now has free rein to multiply and spread to other vaccinated hosts. That's my point. That dangerous vaccine-resistant mutations of the viruses are likely to come from a vaccinated host. But nowhere in this thread did I imply that this is the only means that a dangerous variant can occur, or that this means you shouldn't get vaccinated. It's been proven time and again that vaccination works (treats existing diseases like measles and dengue, or even better, causes viruses to be come entirely extinct like smallpox ). The solution to viruses evolving is to simply develop new treatments for the new variant after all. I'm just criticizing the logic of the article. >In the rare chance that a virus survives the filter, that instance of the virus now has free rein to multiply and spread to other vaccinated hosts. less chance of the virus multiplying on a vaccinated body than an unvaccinated body thats why i shared the news link too about unvaccinated people are variant factories more |
| I'm not getting through to you at all. Not going to bother explaining further. |
| anyway for those that in doubt of my claim here is another link Vaccinated People Who Get Infected Carry Less Covid-19 Virus, CDC Researchers Say Findings help explain why breakthrough infections among the immunized tend to be milder than cases among the unvaccinated https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccinated-people-who-get-infected-carry-less-covid-19-virus-cdc-researchers-say-11625089567 less virus number inside the vaccinated body then less mutations too but unvaccinated people have more virus multiplying inside their body so more chances of them being "variant factories" especially deadly variants |
Slawadia said: deg said: once youre vaccinated your body kills the virus more better than unvaccinated people so less chances of the virus mutating vaccinated people normally have mild symptoms only if they get the virus so that is the hint that their body kills the virus more easily so again less chances of the virus from mutating via multiplying I'll simplify it for you: -some virus exists -host receives vaccination that kills 99.99% of the virus. -remaining 00.01% of the virus that survives somehow, usually via a mutation. -the surviving virus proliferates in the vaccinated body, filling the void that the dead viruses left -the host is now carrying a vaccine resistant/immune mutation of the virus, and is ready to spread to both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people darwinism basically while it's true that this process also occurs in unvaccinated people, my point is that vaccinated people are the ones that may be accelerating the evolution of dangerous vaccine-resistant ones. don't get me wrong, I support vaccination. and I plan on getting vaccinated for covid myself eventually. just sharing my 2 cents. That situation would generally only happen if unvaccinated people (the source of the mutations) came into contact with vaccinated people. That's why they recommend unvaccinated people still wear masks, since it helps prevent them from spreading. |
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Slawadia said: deg said: once youre vaccinated your body kills the virus more better than unvaccinated people so less chances of the virus mutating vaccinated people normally have mild symptoms only if they get the virus so that is the hint that their body kills the virus more easily so again less chances of the virus from mutating via multiplying I'll simplify it for you: -some virus exists -host receives vaccination that kills 99.99% of the virus. -remaining 00.01% of the virus that survives somehow, usually via a mutation. -the surviving virus proliferates in the vaccinated body, filling the void that the dead viruses left -the host is now carrying a vaccine resistant/immune mutation of the virus, and is ready to spread to both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people darwinism basically while it's true that this process also occurs in unvaccinated people, my point is that vaccinated people are the ones that may be accelerating the evolution of dangerous vaccine-resistant ones. don't get me wrong, I support vaccination. and I plan on getting vaccinated for covid myself eventually. just sharing my 2 cents. That's not totally true. It's drug resistance that is a bigger risk. Vaccine resistance is pretty rare. So that still means people vaccinated are less risk of promoting resistant mutations spread than unvaccinated because the unvaccinated are the ones that would have more likely a need for antiviral drugs being used on them and spread more virus in general. Lower viral loads are taken care of quicker by the immune system so quicker it's handled less risk of mutation. So in other words the unvaccinated make better virual hosts for promotion of harder to stop viruses. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5378080/ |
traedJul 21, 2021 12:08 AM
| Reminder: >The majority of Anti-Vaxxers are the same Right-Wing, Trump supporting, Anti-science, low IQ dipshits that literally want to prove to the world just how fucking delusional they really are. Seriously.....it's the same fucking people! Why is that? |
Noboru said: No, stop fear-mongering and watch this instead: https://odysee.com/@OzFlor:7/BU:f The best immunity is already ingrained in our bodies and it's called "immune system" Thanks for sharing, as always. |
SemillaMinoria said: Noboru said: No, stop fear-mongering and watch this instead: https://odysee.com/@OzFlor:7/BU:f The best immunity is already ingrained in our bodies and it's called "immune system" Thanks for sharing, as always. Someone like you who is always cheating and fucking around shouldn't bet too much on having a working immune system. You might actually have aids, you know. :^) |
| You are not even listening to what your opposition has to say anymore. These threads are all pointless as they are only strengthening your belief that you are right and anyone with a different opinion is wrong. You cannot force people to take the vaccine if they do not want to. It is their choice. And in case you are wondering, I am not even an anti-vaxxer. |
SemillaMinoria said: You're welcome ^^Thanks for sharing, as always. I do what I can to stop spreading the fear about the virus Only_Brad said: Thanks, I'm also glad to see that social pressure and moral and legal blackmailing does not work on other people here as wellGlad to see common sense people on MAL. Not everyone is an idiot who wants to be injected by a rushed vaccine, that was proven to cause complications on multiple occasion, and is also useless anyway. Lul new variant next week gotta inject myself with more shit !!!111 People are too easily influenced with fear and moral and legal blackmailing that they cannot even see that what they're doing is counterproductive "If you don't follow the measures, this grandpa will die!" "If you don't vaccinate yourself, you're an egoist and risk lives!" No, health has never been the responsibility of any uninvolved passer-by. There are social norms to isolate yourself or at least avoid getting people in contact with your mucous when you feel sick and/or have symptoms, but nothing that would require a mask or vaccinating with an experimental drug. Especially not as a healthy person edit: 149597871 said: Yes, it's pointless to discuss with people like him who are blinded by fear and/or social or legal pressureYou cannot force people to take the vaccine if they do not want to. It is their choice. And in case you are wondering, I am not even an anti-vaxxer. And people like to put everything in big antagonistic categorical groups like the vocal one just a few posts above Someone not ready to inject an experimental jab that still only has emergency or conditonal licensing? Must be antivaxx, a Trump supporter, right-wing activist and someone risking the lives of everyone! And if that does not work, insults and attacks on the person are being used, like it's been also shown above |
NoboruJul 21, 2021 8:44 AM
| lol im just sharing news from real experts here the right wing has a lot of fake news going around you should share the truth as much as possible and not fake news and false information |
| ^ lol "real experts" I was already sharing the truth from an actual expert Yes, stop spreading fake news and false information yourself |
Noboru said: ^ lol "real experts" I was already sharing the truth from an actual expert Yes, stop spreading fake news and false information yourself Sucharit Bhakdi In 2020 and 2021 Bhakdi became a prominent source of misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic, claiming that the pandemic was "fake" and that COVID-19 vaccines were going to decimate the world's population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucharit_Bhakdi err ye |
deg said: Noboru said: ^ lol "real experts" I was already sharing the truth from an actual expert Yes, stop spreading fake news and false information yourself Sucharit Bhakdi In 2020 and 2021 Bhakdi became a prominent source of misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic, claiming that the pandemic was "fake" and that COVID-19 vaccines were going to decimate the world's population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucharit_Bhakdi err ye Why are you discussing with this guy? He has 99.99% of the scientific population being pro-vaxx and decides to hear the loony that agree with his views. He is a lost cause |
Gween_Gween said: deg said: Sucharit Bhakdi In 2020 and 2021 Bhakdi became a prominent source of misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic, claiming that the pandemic was "fake" and that COVID-19 vaccines were going to decimate the world's population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucharit_Bhakdi err ye Why are you discussing with this guy? He has 99.99% of the scientific population being pro-vaxx and decides to hear the loony that agree with his views. He is a lost cause im just debunking his real expert claim that he link in the first reply lol, some people might get false information on that fake expert he is linking |
deg said: lmao, "debunking" with Wikipedia where people can freely editGween_Gween said: Why are you discussing with this guy? He has 99.99% of the scientific population being pro-vaxx and decides to hear the loony that agree with his views. He is a lost cause im just debunking his real expert claim that he link in the first reply lol, some people might get false information on that fake expert he is linking Watch this video to understand the current situation better: https://odysee.com/@QuantumRhino:9/Profiteers-Of-Fear--The-Business-Of-Swine-Flu:e |
| I am not an anti vaxxer but vaccinated people can still be infected, the vaccine just means they don't suffer severe symptoms. So why is there any difference between a vaccinated person who's infected and a non vaccinated person? |
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QPR said: I am not an anti vaxxer but vaccinated people can still be infected, the vaccine just means they don't suffer severe symptoms. So why is there any difference between a vaccinated person who's infected and a non vaccinated person? like was said in past replies, vaccinated people if infected have less virus in their bodies so less of them becoming "variant factories" and less of them getting severe symptoms like you know too Noboru said: deg said: lmao, "debunking" with Wikipedia where people can freely editim just debunking his real expert claim that he link in the first reply lol, some people might get false information on that fake expert he is linking here in the footnotes of the wikepedia link Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines don’t cause death, won’t decimate world’s population https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/30/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-dont-cause-death-wont-depopulate-planet/7411271002/ |
deg said: Link that in the first placehere in the footnotes of the wikepedia link Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines don’t cause death, won’t decimate world’s population https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/30/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-dont-cause-death-wont-depopulate-planet/7411271002/ and the "fact check" is so off Bhakdi said that the vaccine is potentially lethal, not that taking the vaccine will surely kill the vast majority Actually listen to his own explanation instead of getting your information about him from third party sources |
Noboru said: deg said: Link that in the first placehere in the footnotes of the wikepedia link Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines don’t cause death, won’t decimate world’s population https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/30/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-dont-cause-death-wont-depopulate-planet/7411271002/ and the "fact check" is so off Bhakdi said that the vaccine is potentially lethal, not that taking the vaccine will surely kill the vast majority Actually listen to his own explanation instead of getting your information about him from third party sources >Bhakdi said that the vaccine is potentially lethal, not that taking the vaccine will surely kill the vast majority as if that is how most right wingers and anti-vaxxers sees that EDIT: Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 12,313 reports of death (0.0036%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html |
degJul 21, 2021 9:55 AM
AshitaNoJonas said: Someone like you who is always cheating and fucking around shouldn't bet too much on having a working immune system. You might actually have aids, you know. :^) That is highly unlikely for anyone who knows what he's doing, as condoms have been shown to be far more effective than face masks at preventing the spread of infection. For those unlucky enough to catch HIV, medicines can keep viral counts low. |
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AshitaNoJonas said: Someone like you who is always cheating and fucking around shouldn't bet too much on having a working immune system. You might actually have aids, you know. :^) The ad hominem is too damn high in CE. I don’t cheat anymore thanks to God and I’ve had regular check ups. The same science that says we should trust the vaccine also says that I don’t have the aids. Do you believe in the science or not? 🤷 All of that cheating probably strengthened my immune system anyway. The vaccine suppress your immune system though and it’s got all sorts of nasty stuff in it. I just hope that everyone will be okay in the end vaxxed or not. I don’t think that the conspiracy theorists actually want to be correct. |
GenshinRosariaJul 21, 2021 12:46 PM
Slawadia said: By that logic, vaccined people would be the ones promoting the proliferation of the most resistant (and therefore more dangerous) mutations, since their bodies are specifically more hostile to the disease. As had already happened with diseases becoming antibiotic-resistant due to overuse of antibiotics. But what do I expect from something sourced from menshealth.com More likely to get ravaged by the virus => more viruses mutating on average in the body => more likely pass deadlier viruses And people can still die while wearing seatbelts, idiot. |
| Welp, that sucks, I will not get vaccinated though. |
Slawadia said: deg said: you said the surviving virus will proliferate inside the body of the vaccinated people hence multiply more then more mutations will happen That's a misunderstanding then. Do you know what darwinism means? It is essentially like a filter. In this case the filter is the vaccinated body. Instances of the virus that enter said body typically die. This is the good scenario. But the problem is viruses mutate, not all instances of the viruses are the same. In the rare chance that a virus survives the filter, that instance of the virus now has free rein to multiply and spread to other vaccinated hosts. That's my point. That dangerous vaccine-resistant mutations of the viruses are likely to come from a vaccinated host. But nowhere in this thread did I imply that this is means mutations only occur, or occur more often, in vaccinated hosts. Nor that this means you shouldn't get vaccinated. It's been proven time and again that vaccination works (treats existing diseases like measles and dengue, or even better, causes viruses to be come entirely extinct like smallpox ). No shit that if there's more viruses, as a consequence of more hosts(unvaccinated), means more mutation. Everyone knows that. That wasn't my point. The solution to viruses evolving is to simply develop new treatments for the new variant after all. I'm arguing specifically about what I consider the most dangerous ones, which are the vaccine immune/resistant mutations, which again, are logically more likely to come from a vaccinated host. I'm just criticizing the logic of the article. Your logic is ridiculously flawed. Here's the actual logic: Unvaccinated 1. 90% of original virus dies. 2. 10% survive and produce new variants A (1%), B (1%), that spread to other people. B is resistant to the vaccine. Vaccinated 1. 99% of original virus dies. 2. 1% survive and produce new variants A (<< 0.1%), B (0.1%) that spread to other people. B is resistant to the vaccine. |
deg said: Yeah, yeah, continue to lump everything you don't like in one pot togetheras if that is how most right wingers and anti-vaxxers sees that A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html Why take the risk in the first place when the risk of a serious infection is very low? |
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