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AnimeMemer_ said: I haven't watched the two first season and I don't plan to mainly because of the animation and character design but I understand everything what's happening so far I almost dropped it at episode 18 because after episode 17 I didn't quite understand what was happening from there but I continued and I understand like it isn't really a sequel from what I've heard and read they say it's a rebuild so new comers of higurashi and revisitors of it can watch but generally u gave a bad example like rezero if ur new and haven't heard about higurashi and u see it airing and u decide to start it and didn't know that there were 2 other seasons before it u wouldn't know because it isn't labelled as s3 but instead gou as for rezero it is labelled as s2 so u must know that there is a season 1 right that's common sense cause I never knew there was 2 seasons before this one so I started from gou and understand everything what's going on yk Mod Edit: Removed last part and merged consecutive posts Yeah, the original anime was animated by Deen, a studio that doesn't exactly have a good reputation when it comes to animation, so I get the unpleasant dislike. That said, the distorted character models often make the build-up and facial expressions much more horrifying if you haven't seen any of the murder scenes in the original yet. It was misleadingly advertised as a remake to throw people off and keep us on our toes. Ryukishi did say that Gou is something newcomers can get "something out of", but it nevertheless is a straight-up sequel to the original. Every scene you've watched in Gou takes place after the original. I'm not disputing the idea that it's possible for a newcomer to enjoy this; rather I'm highly recommending that newcomers don't watch Gou until watching the original because there are a ton of details, characterizations, and plot points in the original that are kind of skimmed over in Gou (for good reason, but at the expense of newcomers who are left in the dark); things like what exactly Hinamizawa Syndrome is, Akasaka's role in the story, the catharsis from Rika finally escaping her bird cage, how much damage Teppei really did to Satoko and her family. You unfortunately don't get a deep look into any of these things, which makes it quite a bit harder (not impossible, mind you) to appreciate these things in the grand scope of Gou's narrative. My analogy to Re: Zero s2 isn't referring to the advertising. I get that a ton of people were thrown off by misleading advertising; what I was saying is that even though it's possible to piece together what's happening and what happened before, a ton of people will understandably be lost on what's going on if they jump into season 2 of Re: Zero and not enjoy watching the anime, and the same applies for Gou. |
| I am 17 episodes in and I don't understand shit. It's been 7 to 8 years since I have watched the OG series and I remember liking it, but this season is an utter borefest with sporadic uncomfortable gore (graphic scenes in ep 16 were overkill and disgusting.) |
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cchigu said: I am 17 episodes in and I don't understand shit. It's been 7 to 8 years since I have watched the OG series and I remember liking it, but this season is an utter borefest with sporadic uncomfortable gore (graphic scenes in ep 16 were overkill and disgusting.) Ohh! I see they did go with the same as the S1... What a shame, it will be another one very painful to watch... or maybe not, we'll see... At least (I HOPE) is not like the mess umineko was! What a mess of anime... |
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chrisbousleiman said: r_justo said: Yeah the Umineko anime was a dumpster fire the anime was adapted before the story was even finished so they missed so much details and important things to the mystery. it’s a shame too because Umineko is one my favorite pieces of work. Most of the fans pretend it doesn’t exist though lmao. As for Gou I think you’ll like it. It definitely caught me by surprise!Ohh! I see they did go with the same as the S1... What a shame, it will be another one very painful to watch... or maybe not, we'll see... At least (I HOPE) is not like the mess umineko was! What a mess of anime... I don't know man... I liked the original two seasons but was really painful seeing the 1st one (with all the gore and things left to be solved)... Although season 2 came to redeem everything and make Higurashi the huge name that it is right now... I don't know... I really REALLY hope that Gou doesn't go with the same as the S1 (too much gore and too few answers) and go more like a mix with the 1st and 2nd seasons. |
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Hulio said: r_justo said: Yeah, that's a good question, even I don't know the answer. And even if it could have been continued well, GOU doesn't.After the end I just don't know how/why did they make sequels to that... It was the perfect ending, wasn't it?? What more can they hope to add that suits the series without ruining it?? Don't know if you want some minor "spoilers" on GOU or not so I'll keep shut for now. chrisbousleiman said: Hmm well I don't want to say too much about Gou so you can go into fresh, you might have mixed feelings at the start but I think you'll come to enjoy it. Tell me what you think of it! Also it's definitely nowhere as near as confusing as the first season of higurashi. I'm now in the middle of Gou (literally finished ep 12) and I can understand why people think this is a remake... because it kinda is a remake from previous events from S1 and S2. With that said, it's pretty obvious that this isn't a remake! Now for my opinion soo far... Yes, it's an... unique, of sorts, approach for newcomers and old fans... Problem... It lacks new things especially for the old fans that know S1 and S2. The history just repeats itself again, it could have different stories/arcs, but they used the same ones as previous seasons. For God sake, Rika had 100 years of this, why don't use other experiences of this loop. They could even use the one from "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Special: Nekogoroshi-hen", Rika mention that that experience had a different path already, why don't use it for Gou?? It would be a new breath for new and old fans... this just seems too dam repetitive, like a Deja Vu but incomplete, like it misses something and it was changed slightly. It's this the experience that Rika had when she enters the loop on her first tries? Now despite what I think they should had done, my feeling about the story soo far... Without many spoilers, I think there's a different mystery here than what it was on S1-2. Slight differences mean slight changes, but in this series the feel is different... it almost like that this is a different loop... like that nothing that happened before means anything in this new loop... Things were changed this time, and it transmitted a completely different message: This is all I can say about Gou for now. I will update after I finishing it. It's only another 12 eps, after I watched a total of 98 eps (30 min OVAs included), 50 1min specials (very very hard to find them), and 1 movie, what is 12 eps more? xD PS: To the Moderators of the forums... Quoting things from different posts is hard! Don't blame people for don't doing it/don't know how to do it properly. With that said, I hope a continuation of a good job. |
r_justoMar 21, 2021 3:50 PM
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r_justo said: Yeah it would have been better if they just adapted new chapters (PS has quite a few of those) or actually make something new. The history just repeats itself again, it could have different stories/arcs, but they used the same ones as previous seasons. There was some nice thinking again. Thought in comparison... GOU is eeeeasy. Last time it was THAT, this time it is ONE, what/who is this one you think of? Unlike in the original, here I figured out the culprit by ep4, and rest around it by the episode you're currently at. Sadly R07 is retracting his words and GOU is far from the things what he's said in past. |
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Hulio said: There was some nice thinking again. Thought in comparison... GOU is eeeeasy. Last time it was THAT, this time it is ONE, what/who is this one you think of? Unlike in the original, here I figured out the culprit by ep4, and rest around it by the episode you're currently at. Sadly R07 is retracting his words and GOU is far from the things that he's said in past. You figured that at ep 4?? Only because Rika and Satoko were killed in the same house without Rika being eviscerated?? I know you had one week to think about it... but even I only got there at the end of ep 8 (end of the twin saga round 2, aka 2nd arc)(even though I only had 10-15 mins after the end of ep 4, I'm pretty sure I couldn't catch the killer even with one week... well it would need 4 weeks to ep 8... maybe at that time I could have some idea... but still after 4 eps, that's impressive.) BTW I'm at ep 17, with that awesome Rika strategy at the end to make sure who's the killer. And yes, Gou seems to be a little too simple, at the very least half of what I said is accurate and I will see what will happen with the other half pretty soon. Now the only thing that is ringing my mind is "Why?". Almost not the "how?", pretty sure they will solve that with some mythic stuff that I couldn't figure out in a million years, but the "why?" concerns me... I hope it was not just "I wished that you could be here!" and stuff like they are making ppl to believe in. But if it was or even if it wasn't... the "How?" is still very important... (I heard before that this connects Higurashi to Umineko... I really hope they do it right... Umineko was just... well it WAS... hopefully, it stays that way... but I don't really believe in that... well, we'll see!) |
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r_justo said: Well it is quite simple really. I don't exactly remember what all I thought back then and in what order, but it was basically something like this.You figured that at ep 4?? [spoiler]First of all we saw? Takano running away, or atleast the clinic packing up -> That pretty much told me that Takano is now out of the picture, which means we need a NEW antagonist. Some people on the thread were debating about Rika's MurderSuicide, some saying she killed Satoko and herself for some reason (like in Meakashi), some said that was ridiculous and it was Rena instead. -> To me neither of those made any sense, and it gave me sort of an Heureka moment, that there was only one option left. The more I thought about it (tho I didn't need to think much of it) the more sense it made, and adding up with some Umineko knowledge... Sadly the theory that made most sense ended up being true... A disappointment.[/quote] Ep 8 then finally solidified it. Now the only thing that is ringing my mind is "Why?". That's the question that was bouncing the most in my, and couple other's heads aswell.However in different context... Why was this made... heh. (I heard before that this connects Higurashi to Umineko... I really hope they do it right... Umineko was just... well it WAS... hopefully, it stays that way... but I don't really believe in that... well, we'll see!) Now don't try to say Umineko is bad xDIt's just that the Anime was one heck of a fever dream. Even when I love the Higurashi's story, I have to say that the mystery and composition in Umineko takes the prize. Tho this mainly means the VNs. This is a shame tho, watching the anime first robs us from so much good. What comes to the connection, it likely is there yeah, as it stands however, it's kinda ambiguous. |
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Hulio said: r_justo said: Well it is quite simple really. I don't exactly remember what all I thought back then and in what order, but it was basically something like this.You figured that at ep 4?? [spoiler]First of all we saw? Takano running away, or atleast the clinic packing up -> That pretty much told me that Takano is now out of the picture, which means we need a NEW antagonist. Some people on the thread were debating about Rika's MurderSuicide, some saying she killed Satoko and herself for some reason (like in Meakashi), some said that was ridiculous and it was Rena instead. -> To me neither of those made any sense, and it gave me sort of an Heureka moment, that there was only one option left. The more I thought about it (tho I didn't need to think much of it) the more sense it made, and adding up with some Umineko knowledge... Sadly the theory that made most sense ended up being true... A disappointment. Ep 8 then finally solidified it. Ohh! Now that I watched the final scene in eng subs (normally I prefer Portuguese, my home language) I found a miss spell translation, they were killed with the SAME knife, not BY the same knife that was with Rena! Now that changes a lot! Like I said 10-15min is not the same as 1 week xD But still very impressive, not gonna lie! "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth!" Nice going little sherlock! xD Hulio said: r_justo said: Now don't try to say Umineko is bad xD(I heard before that this connects Higurashi to Umineko... I really hope they do it right... Umineko was just... well it WAS... hopefully, it stays that way... but I don't really believe in that... well, we'll see!) It's just that the Anime was one heck of a fever dream. Even when I love the Higurashi's story, I have to say that the mystery and composition in Umineko takes the prize. Tho this mainly means the VNs. This is a shame tho, watching the anime first robs us from so much good. What comes to the connection, it likely is there yeah, as it stands however, it's kinda ambiguous. As for Umineko... Now I have a theory, a theory that concerns me more than appease me... But first my thoughts! As you can figure I finished Gou. The story is not bad, at some point, I could even understand the villain's feelings and why she did that way. At least Gou made some effort for you to understand that. You REALLY need the prequels (I would say to watch every single bit of it, but also you could only use at least S1 and S2 of the original... for the next season, I recommend Umineko as well, probably for other reasons) to understand the meaning of what is happening. The story is kinda easy to understand and that's why they recommend this for newcomers, but the meaning could only be understood in its full potential if you saw the previous Higurashi(s). In the end, I ended up liking it (but I know what I signed in, after seeing sooooo much Higurashi in a short term xD) and I can say I'm waiting with some anticipation for the Sotsu sequel! I'm still sticking into what I said before, they could use 100 years of different experiences, that sure is a mine of gold for them... they were just lazy! Maybe they thought "we will focus on nostalgia", but then they ruined it by making it lean to a "bad ending" every time. Using it once, yeh! Not a bad move, not gonna lie. BUT every time?? One of them Rika even said "I don't even have time to breathe", immediately next she reborn already dying! Jesus, man! That's a bit too much, isn't it? Now a theory: And that's it! That's the end of my Higurashi crusade. What do you think about it? If my theory proves to be right my concerns are founded, we could have a very different type of ending... Very different from what it was with Kai. (well, it would always be different... But my concerns are the possibility of it not end at all...) Oh! And poor Hanyuu, I really want to know what happened to her... well... We'll see in the next sequel, shall we?? xD |
r_justoMar 22, 2021 2:02 PM
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r_justo said: Yeah I don't know what subbed versions everyone was watching (don't even remember what I watched) but this was the topic of a small debate after the episode as well.Ohh! Now that I watched the final scene in eng subs (normally I prefer Portuguese, my home language) I found a miss spell translation, they were killed with the SAME knife, not BY the same knife that was with Rena! Now that changes a lot! Like I said 10-15min is not the same as 1 week xD Not sure if it was my Japanese skill or what, but I always understood that the knife wasn't the same as the one with Rena. But still very impressive, not gonna lie! "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth!" That's about it. And to be honest, that's kiiiinda what was going on in the Umineko as well (the VN atleast)Nice going little sherlock! xD There's many great quotes and themes there, don't remember if they were lost in the adaptation. As for Umineko... Now I have a theory, a theory that concerns me more than appease me... But first my thoughts! What comes to the Witches.PS: I only read the Spoilers on MAL pages of each after writing this. Although it says things differently, I'll still stick with this theory. Is much more plausible than the others! (although they really made her similar to Miyo as a kid...) Oh! And Lambda and Delta are letters, not numbers, I study those and other letters a long time ago (I don't know who did correlate them to 3 and 4 or 30 and 4, but that person doesn't know anything about ancient Greece, at the very least Lambda is the 11th letter and Delta the 4th) It was pretty much known already in Higurashi that Furude Rika = Frederika. Fun Fact: Also the red wine that Rika drinks through out the series is from Bernkastel. (really gotta buy some for my shelf) Personally I'd call, when ever Rika "gets serious" and her voice deepens, it's "Bernkastel mode", so to say. As for Lambda, It's never really stated, but the most prevailed theory has been that she is more associated with Takano than Satoko. Looks like smol Miyo, and also the name. Miyo being 3 and 4 and Lambda 30 and 4. Atleast including to pretty much every source in the internet, including the Data Overmind of credibile information.. Wikipedia, Lambda is listed as having the value of 30. (However at this rate she's probably gonna turn into a mishmash of both.) |
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Hulio said: As for Lambda, It's never really stated, but the most prevailed theory has been that she is more associated with Takano than Satoko. Looks like smol Miyo, and also the name. Miyo being 3 and 4 and Lambda 30 and 4. Atleast including to pretty much every source in the internet, including the Data Overmind of credibile information.. Wikipedia, Lambda is listed as having the value of 30. (However at this rate she's probably gonna turn into a mishmash of both.) As for that theory... I think it was the author's first option too... but... both lambda and Fredy are "friendly-ish", both of them are rivals, both of them seem to be the most powerful... I mean, what would fit better than two previous friends/rivals on those 2 characters? Also the "certainty"... Takano wanted to fulfill her grandfather's lifework, and the very least she just wanted them to let her live... doesn't fit Lambda MO. It's more a Satoko-like character than a Takano-like character... It's just my opinion, and one very fresh (I watched Umineko last Saturday... 3 days ago xD) And it could also fit the numerical too. Satoko wasn't Takano but was Takano's most promising experience. She and Rika were the main subjects in Takano's experience (along with her brother as well). The source of the cure (Rika) and the only subject to be on stage 5 and being cured and getting better from the disease with Takano's treatment. With this, one that could be Takano could now be Satoko. (But I got to admit, despite the eye color, she's pretty similar to Takano. But Takano was also pretty similar to Satoko...) It's just a loop of thoughts, let us see what will the author choose. (it will start in the summer, shall we make our bets then? xD) |
r_justoMar 22, 2021 6:22 PM
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Vinukun said: r_justo said: Ohh! Now that I watched the final scene in eng subs (normally I prefer Portuguese, my home language) I found a miss spell translation, they were killed with the SAME knife, not BY the same knife that was with Rena! Now that changes a lot! Like I said 10-15min is not the same as 1 week xD But still very impressive, not gonna lie! "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth!" Nice going little sherlock! xD As for Umineko... Now I have a theory, a theory that concerns me more than appease me... But first my thoughts! As you can figure I finished Gou. The story is not bad, at some point, I could even understand the villain's feelings and why she did that way. At least Gou made some effort for you to understand that. You REALLY need the prequels (I would say to watch every single bit of it, but also you could only use at least S1 and S2 of the original... for the next season, I recommend Umineko as well, probably for other reasons) to understand the meaning of what is happening. The story is kinda easy to understand and that's why they recommend this for newcomers, but the meaning could only be understood in its full potential if you saw the previous Higurashi(s). In the end, I ended up liking it (but I know what I signed in, after seeing sooooo much Higurashi in a short term xD) and I can say I'm waiting with some anticipation for the Sotsu sequel! I'm still sticking into what I said before, they could use 100 years of different experiences, that sure is a mine of gold for them... they were just lazy! Maybe they thought "we will focus on nostalgia", but then they ruined it by making it lean to a "bad ending" every time. Using it once, yeh! Not a bad move, not gonna lie. BUT every time?? One of them Rika even said "I don't even have time to breathe", immediately next she reborn already dying! Jesus, man! That's a bit too much, isn't it? Now a theory: And that's it! That's the end of my Higurashi crusade. What do you think about it? If my theory proves to be right my concerns are founded, we could have a very different type of ending... Very different from what it was with Kai. (well, it would always be different... But my concerns are the possibility of it not end at all...) Oh! And poor Hanyuu, I really want to know what happened to her... well... We'll see in the next sequel, shall we?? xD Man I can certainly say that now I know why people said you gotta watch umineko, Frederika and Lamdadelta man it sure spooked me !! Sotsu if it really going to do that then yeah man it's going to be one hell of an anime |
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