Shadows House
Niello said: my bad but others like this thread people dunking on it. Even hypocritical has braincells to understand the circumstances than lashing out like its the end. Even the author clarify it. You need to stop being bias to manga and whine when its not going your way.chriskor022 said: which you are dumbass. Imagine canceling a studio because they cut the character which was relevant when S2 comes. When they gonna connect it while weird its better than total cut. Just read the author statement on twitter. Who said they were forced. And this is not relevant to the topic at all aside from confirming people's worry. Your comment is also hypocritical, considering that you cancel people who are not happy with the situation and contradict yourself. Dumbass. |
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KuroNekoAlchemy said: Judevin said: I don't know man. I think you are being pretty dramatic about it, like Twitter levels of dramatic. Let's just watch and see what happens instead of overreacting so early. but why would any fan watch it beyond this point, what is the pleasure in watching what you love getting butchered, and a fair portion of us have ptsd after yakunebas2 we can probably enjoy the rest of the shadow house since I'm certain it will end at "debut", though there is a little moment where emilico and shaun screwing up because they met robe. what WOULD be problematic is if this ever gets s2, that's where even the author would have to make up some bullshit. the robe has a hidden relationship with existing characters and not foreshadowing properly will pretty much ruin the story behind the robe and that one other character(s). of course there are more build-up thanks to robe, so I don't frickin know what would happen if s2 comes. |
KizuBlade said: First one reads:Can someone translate the author's second post? https://twitter.com/somatoma/status/1388673177258131459 Google translation is really confusing. If I'm not mistaken, the debut arc should be around 3 episodes and it seems what was missing will be introduced later in anime? We had to skip some parts and change the scripts to fit the story in one season. We’d try our best to connect the story so that it makes sense if we can get season two! Second one reads: BTW the reason why it took time to pay off the foreshadowing in manga is because we were planning to finish ‘the reveal’ within like 3episodes. (which we couldn’t)(but that’s the fun part of weekly magazine, you never know what’s gonna happen) |
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| Here again People complain about the adaption as if they can Adap all of manga chapter Most anime only have 1 season or 2 and intend to only promote the Original source Manga reader always be the enemy for Anime watcher |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: @DukeofWalton Oh man, now I won't be able to sleep soundly until the final episode arrives xD. This better not go PN season 2 route or I'll never forgive the Japanese! xD Fingers F-ing crossed! :( Cloverworks should've just stuck with Bunny girl senpai as their "one hit wonders". |
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| Manga Reader when this Manga still dont have Anime : Pls we want anime for this ! People need to know this Series ! Manga Reader after the adaption is not faithful/rush/Skip : Fuck This anime People need to drop this why is this ever Exist? Why?! i'm going back to Read Manga and Anime-Only Should do the same Jeez ....Every studio always have bad Anime even Ufotable or Kyoto animation Stop act like it's something new |
chriskor022 said: Niello said: which you are dumbass. Imagine canceling a studio because they cut the character which was relevant when S2 comes. When they gonna connect it while weird its better than total cut. Just read the author statement on twitter.And? You are little saying the reason why anyone who care about the series at all should care about this. Dumb. Nobody here is talking about cancelling the show. Stop being delusional and mixing Twitter with Mal. So far you're the one being toxic in the comments. The thread is for people to share concerns. |
now, this thread makes trivial flamewar. The author said what we needed to hear, have a nice day and enjoy the Debut. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: which is lessen by authors decision which is understandable. This thread itself is circejerking which is toxic itself. Just visit the TPN S2 toxicity starts with manga purist and thats a fact. So your concern are valid, but your barking on the wrong tree with that title you are inviting toxicity too. And you justifying your thread like its a fact but baseless until proven otherwisechriskor022 said: which you are dumbass. Imagine canceling a studio because they cut the character which was relevant when S2 comes. When they gonna connect it while weird its better than total cut. Just read the author statement on twitter. Nobody here is talking about cancelling the show. Stop being delusional and mixing Twitter with Mal. So far you're the one being toxic in the comments. The thread is for people to share concerns. |
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RMTWASHERE said: It's honestly funny how someone who's writing in all-caps has the audacity to tell others to calm down. For now, just calm down. It's not the first time studios cut out some part of manga to wrap up the seasons nicely. AND YOU MANGA READER (before you talk shit, I'M ALSO A MANGA READER) BE GRACEFUL ALREADY, THIS SERIES HAS BEEN ADAPTED TO ANIME (even more so by studios that have good visuals). WITHOUT THIS ANIME THIS MANGA WILL CONTINUE TO BURIED AWAY AND NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT. @ItsNoux Can't help it. There will always be immature people who get mad at everything. Not gonna reconsider opening new threads in the future because of some loudmouth kids. @chriskor022 I didn't create this thread to incite hate towards the show/studio. If you imagined me having vile intentions and creating this thread to invite toxicity, that's your problem, not mine - because that's not why I created this thread, plain and simple. I could've written "Why did the studio cut this scene?" in the title and I guarantee someone would accuse me of same bullshit. Just move on if you people get irritated by simplest of things. In all honesty, nobody wants to hear someone whine about other's "whining". |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: thats rich coming for you. And im free to reply to your baseless takes. And im not annoyed im amused by your justification about things. And yes the title is inciting to it. Even anime onlies are pessimistic because of you and other manga purist whining and exaggerating things that the author clarify. Others are coping too which is understable but its not that bad like you and your thread make out to be. The worse scenario is cutting the debut completely which next episode has not happening. RMTWASHERE said: It's honestly funny how someone who's writing in all-caps has the audacity to tell others to calm down. For now, just calm down. It's not the first time studios cut out some part of manga to wrap up the seasons nicely. AND YOU MANGA READER (before you talk shit, I'M ALSO A MANGA READER) BE GRACEFUL ALREADY, THIS SERIES HAS BEEN ADAPTED TO ANIME (even more so by studios that have good visuals). WITHOUT THIS ANIME THIS MANGA WILL CONTINUE TO BURIED AWAY AND NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT. @ItsNoux Can't help it. There will always be immature people who get mad at everything. Not gonna reconsider opening new threads in the future because of some loudmouth kids. @chriskor022 I didn't create this thread to incite hate towards the show/studio. If you imagined me having vile intentions and creating this thread to invite toxicity, that's your problem, not mine - because that's not why I created this thread, plain and simple. I could've written "Why did the studio cut this scene?" in the title and I guarantee someone would accuse me of same bullshit. Just move on if you people get irritated by simplest of things. In all honesty, nobody wants to hear someone whine about other's "whining". Tldr advice for you calm and stop making some doomposting thread. And just drink coffee you need it, robe sama is watching lol |
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hima12_04 said: It was the author's decision to change the script of episode 4 (based on what I read in his twitter). If we have season 2 in the future, the author will try his best to reconnect with season 1. No one is to blame Can you share link to twitter post? |
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| @chriskor022 thats rich coming for you. And im free to reply to your baseless takes. And im not annoyed im amused by your justification about things. And yes the title is inciting to it. Even anime onlies are pessimistic because of you and other manga purist whining and exaggerating things that the author clarify. Others are coping too which is understable but its not that bad like you and your thread make out to be. The worse scenario is cutting the debut completely which next episode has not happening. Sorry, I'm not taking advices from kids who are unable to have a proper conversation. Once again you're pushing your delusions as a reality. Note, you're the one who thinks (from the very beginning) throwing insults here and there is a legit way of having a conversation. Not that it makes you lose all credibility, right?Tldr advice for you calm and stop making some doomposting thread. And just drink coffee you need it, robe sama is watching lol It's funny how people with no chill are fast to tell others to relax, even if they (me) are completely calm. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: going pedeantic on issue does not resolved that you are first one making an issue out of it. You need to chill to because you just making the all debacle useless because the author start it. And its not the first time it happens. @chriskor022 thats rich coming for you. And im free to reply to your baseless takes. And im not annoyed im amused by your justification about things. And yes the title is inciting to it. Even anime onlies are pessimistic because of you and other manga purist whining and exaggerating things that the author clarify. Others are coping too which is understable but its not that bad like you and your thread make out to be. The worse scenario is cutting the debut completely which next episode has not happening. Sorry, I'm not taking advices from kids who are unable to have a proper conversation. Once again you're pushing your delusions as a reality. Note, you're the one who thinks (from the very beginning) throwing insults here and there is a legit way of having a conversation. Not that it makes you lose all credibility, right?Tldr advice for you calm and stop making some doomposting thread. And just drink coffee you need it, robe sama is watching lol It's funny how people with no chill are fast to tell others to relax, even if they (me) are completely calm. And im telling you to calm down, if not just feel free to converse with I have free time to purist like you. With the issue being resilved by author in the time being. You pushing your own agenda too, dont be foxy about it. Credibility is loose on internet like your takes and comparing it to TPN s2 situation. And im not insulting you, im just stating my opinion |
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Aitana_9964 said: nothing butchered because its the same as the manga and the author change it. If second season is not on the making. The reason is to not adding plot points until S2. Its sad but the author promised that they can implement robe sama in the sequel. So I dont think its that bad. The map giving is not important. The important part is Mia gave the map on Emilico.The anime series was decent or at most good until chapter 3, it was too good to be true, I knew something was coming when it wasn't animated how Mia gave Emilico the map of the house. I guess this change means there might not be a second season, since the butchered part is important for the plot. Now everything will feel so anti climatic. As a manga reader I would rather Shadows House didn't had an anime than watching how is being ruined. I'll just keep watching because Shadows House has a good seiyuu cast and ReoNa made an amazing song for this anime. |
chriskor022May 2, 2021 12:56 PM
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kawaiitea said: so you dont trust Somatoma for the decision the author of the series you reading? I understand the sentiment, but not trusting the one making the story is insulting tbh. Even if the producers do not want to create a second season, cutting off important characters just feels wrong and breaks the flow of the story. At this rate they might as well not even show Edward's unification or even the coffee scene, because hey! we won't be giving this another season so let's not add things which might interest the audience for another season. Forcing the scriptwriters to alter scenes is just wrong tbh. This isn't me whining as a manga reader, but me feeling disappointed that the important scenes which I was looking forward to in the anime, got removed for reasons such as the show's possibility to not receive another season. And even if we don't get another season, people could still get interested in the plot due to the anime and buy the manga to read, hence boosting the sales. Robe sama is not relevant in the debut or post debut. Its foreshadowing entity that relevant on Maryrose arc. So if the author can make it happen that foreshadowing around can make it to the future its plausible. Even if it weird, anime onlies does not see the difference. Us manga readers can because we know. |
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| @chriskor022 going pedeantic on issue does not resolved that you are first one making an issue out of it. "making an issue", "inviting toxicity", "purist, purist, purist," "You need to chill" - As if your bad English wasn't enough, this broken phone game of yours is getting annoying, not gonna lie.just feel free to converse with I have free time to purist like you. With the issue being resilved by author in the time being. - I couldn't make a sense out of this "sentence".You pushing your own agenda too, dont be foxy about it. Credibility is loose on internet like your takes and comparing it to TPN s2 situation. And im not insulting you, im just stating my opinion Here's something to consider: 1)When you behave like a kid, there's a high chance people will ignore your post or take you as a joke, or get irritated. 2)Everyone is biased to own opinions, this isn't a mindboggling discovery. However, one must know how to express their opinion and present arguments without calling others clowns, dumbasses and copy/pasting "you be toxic people from twitter", "you be cancel-culture", "you be manga purist", "you need chill" over and over again, as if being a parrot or screaming louder than others makes your arguments valid, and baseless accusations - a fact. I mean, you clearly can have a valid conversation when you try hard enough. Your latest reply to Aitana_9964 and kawaiitea shows that, so let's do the following, just don't be an ass and don't turn a perfectly harmless thread into whatever you imagined it's "true purpose" was. Then we can get along. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: i think english being not my language is the issue here, but you toxicity thread that invites trolls and misinformation to the anime onlies and spoiled them in return. Just see the episode 4 thread they are spoiled.@chriskor022 going pedeantic on issue does not resolved that you are first one making an issue out of it. "making an issue", "inviting toxicity", "purist, purist, purist," "You need to chill" - As if your bad English wasn't enough, this broken phone game of yours is getting annoying, not gonna lie.just feel free to converse with I have free time to purist like you. With the issue being resilved by author in the time being. - I couldn't make a sense out of this "sentence".You pushing your own agenda too, dont be foxy about it. Credibility is loose on internet like your takes and comparing it to TPN s2 situation. And im not insulting you, im just stating my opinion Here's something to consider: 1)When you behave like a kid, there's a high chance people will ignore your post or take you as a joke, or get irritated. 2)Everyone is biased to own opinions, this isn't a mindboggling discovery. However, one must know how to express their opinion and present arguments without calling others clowns, dumbasses and copy/pasting "you be toxic people from twitter", "you be cancel-culture", "you be manga purist", "you need chill" over and over again, as if being a parrot or screaming louder than others makes your arguments valid, and baseless accusations - a fact. I mean, you clearly can have a valid conversation when you try hard enough. Your latest reply to Aitana_9964 and kawaiitea shows that, so let's do the following, just don't be an ass and don't turn a perfectly harmless thread into whatever you imagined it's "true purpose" was. Then we can get along. Like I said its baseless accusation and not perfect comparison what is happening here. Because Robe sama is not relevant. And being manga purist is true because of all the whining that they missed some panels like in episode 1. And the first minute of it the train scene. Fun fact the author add it too on the interview. Im open to civil conversation dont get me wrong |
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| @chriskor022 but you toxicity thread that invites trolls and misinformation to the anime onlies and spoiled them in return. Just see the episode 4 thread they are spoiled. 1)This isn't "toxicity" thread. 2)Trolls will appear everywhere, no matter what. 3)There is no misinformation, only speculations and concern about the future based on PN season 2 and wonder egg ending (both problematic, both same studio) 4)I don't care about people spoiling in episode 4 discussion; I don't care about trolls in other threads and twitter. THIS is a completely different thread that warns people in plain English that it will have manga spoilers in them. Despite this, I still put spoilers in spoiler tags as precaution. Considering all these above, your rather immature response left me with a feeling that you're some kind of a troll or an agitator looking for trouble. Like I said its baseless accusation and not perfect comparison what is happening here. Because Robe sama is not relevant. And being manga purist is true because of all the whining that they missed some panels like in episode 1. And the first minute of it the train scene. Fun fact the author add it too on the interview. I began reading manga after seeing ep1 of the anime. Episode 1 does indeed reveal quite much. I've seen reaction videos of people and thanks to the beginning scene of ep1 many people guessed the whole coffee/doll-human relationship thing easier than in the manga. Ep 1 beginning spoils things, but not to an extent that it makes things OBVIOUS. Then again, the one who created the thread after ep 1, titled it with the word "concern", so they don't necessarily have to be "manga purists". Of course there are immature people who ACTUALLY get mad about the show for not being 98-100% like the source, but I don't belong to such people. I consider episode 1 "anime-only" scenes as a good change. Robe sama, on the other hand, IS concerning and I stated why; Robe is an important character who basically drives the plot forward after the debut. Now, whether this change will eventually ruin the show or not we will find out after the series concludes, but AGAIN, just because the future is uncertain, doesn't mean threads like this shouldn't be made.As I've stated several times, if people are biased and want to see toxicity in a perfectly normal thread, that's their problem. |
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DukeofWalton said: @Sigmar-Unberogen Just stop engaging with this guy. Same for him. Let's just move on. But I do agree with your sentiments on what's going on with the anime. The manga is dear to me now, so my preference is just to see the anime stick to that as close as it can. I can handle some anime only stuff (like the convo between Patrick and Ricky), but I definitely don't like character omission if it can be avoided. anyway, I'm done ranting now. lol. Thanks for understanding. I mean, we have all the rights to express our concerns about changes that may or may not ruin this anime. It's just a normal discussion. I'm also done after the author's tweet. The fact that the show isn't planning on going "anime-only" route similarly to how TPN 2 did (even though it didn't really do that in the end!), makes me relaxed enough already. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: great points and I understand the concern but the thing is its different staff even its the same studio. It has some bad shows and good shows. @chriskor022 but you toxicity thread that invites trolls and misinformation to the anime onlies and spoiled them in return. Just see the episode 4 thread they are spoiled. 1)This isn't "toxicity" thread. 2)Trolls will appear everywhere, no matter what. 3)There is no misinformation, only speculations and concern about the future based on PN season 2 and wonder egg ending (both problematic, both same studio) 4)I don't care about people spoiling in episode 4 discussion; I don't care about trolls in other threads and twitter. THIS is a completely different thread that warns people in plain English that it will have manga spoilers in them. Despite this, I still put spoilers in spoiler tags as precaution. Considering all these above, your rather immature response left me with a feeling that you're some kind of a troll or an agitator looking for trouble. Like I said its baseless accusation and not perfect comparison what is happening here. Because Robe sama is not relevant. And being manga purist is true because of all the whining that they missed some panels like in episode 1. And the first minute of it the train scene. Fun fact the author add it too on the interview. I began reading manga after seeing ep1 of the anime. Episode 1 does indeed reveal quite much. I've seen reaction videos of people and thanks to the beginning scene of ep1 many people guessed the whole coffee/doll-human relationship thing easier than in the manga. Ep 1 beginning spoils things, but not to an extent that it makes things OBVIOUS. Then again, the one who created the thread after ep 1, titled it with the word "concern", so they don't necessarily have to be "manga purists". Of course there are immature people who ACTUALLY get mad about the show for not being 98-100% like the source, but I don't belong to such people. I consider episode 1 "anime-only" scenes as a good change. Robe sama, on the other hand, IS concerning and I stated why; Robe is an important character who basically drives the plot forward after the debut. Now, whether this change will eventually ruin the show or not we will find out after the series concludes, but AGAIN, just because the future is uncertain, doesn't mean threads like this shouldn't be made.As I've stated several times, if people are biased and want to see toxicity in a perfectly normal thread, that's their problem. WonEgg is good with the conclusion because of production issues and different unfortunate circumstances. Try read the article of sakugablog about it and how the delayed take place and pandemic too. Yeah I admit that im going too far, but its not about this thread but all manga readers in general. To fast to judge are example of immature too. Yes its relevant but I said this season Robe sama is not relevant. Just foreshadows pun intended to the next big arc. Yeah thats why if 2nd season confirmed in 2 to 3 years. Its just weird but not big of a deal because the author stated they gonna implement if ever it gets one. Im disapointed too because its not that good to change it for that reason but coping is over, just move on. My take on that its okay to be concerned but inviting toxicity and jumping on bandwagon that its bad because is not okay. I just dropped the anime tbh. Its not healthy to stick every episode threads to comparing manga and anime because majority of it is not faithful |
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| @chriskor022 Great points as well. Totally agreed that judging too fast is also a sign of immaturity. Glad we can agree that it's ok to be concerned about things. In all honesty it wasn't my intention to invite toxicity with this thread and even though I knew that toxic people would ALSO appear here, I still decided to make one because I don't want trolls preventing me from expressing my thoughts + I wanted to hear people's opinions - and I got what I wanted. Thanks to people here, I now am hopeful that the anime will be great even if a significant change such as this is implemented. It may be wishful thinking for now, time will tell, but I decided to stay positive for now. I'm not planning on dropping the manga and the anime. Heck, I didn't drop TPN season 2 so that says enough... It's sad, but there may certainly be people who will do just that because of this change, but I believe the number of such people is rather minuscule. Thanks for the understanding, and sorry if I sounded snappy in previous comments. |
| To be fair, this was never likely to get a second season anyway, so it's safe to assume none of this will, or would have ever, mattered to begin with. I'm not saying it definitely won't get a second season, of course nobody can predict that for certain, but as with a VAST majority of seasonal adaptations, it was pretty much bound to just be adapted into one cour and end off on a cliffhanger. I like this anime for what it is; a cute, atmospheric quasi-slice of life with a nice setting, and good production. I never expected it to come even close to telling a full story, or getting deep into a narrative. Look at Houseki no Kuni, with all of its foreshadowing for future manga arcs in its first season, just for the anime to be (seemingly) abandoned after what is practically a prologue. We can start getting annoyed at things foreshadowing for future plot points being left out when it seems like there is even a chance for another season, but to me this was always destined to be a one-season anime, to be honest, so I'm not terribly concerned over this. The only thing slightly annoying is that the script-writers are taking a "we'll worry about it if it happens" approach with the possibility of having to connect season one with a second, which would be damaging to the adaptation in the small chance that it does get continued. I, personally, would rather the Houseki no Kuni approach, like I mentioned earlier, where important foreshadowing is included just in case there is a continuation (or to at least interest viewers to read the source material). From the perspective of adapting an anime into what will MOST likely end after 13 episodes, I can see why it would make sense to cut content that would likely never come to fruition on screen, though. |
kawaiitea said: you dont read my statement properly. I think its okay to criticise but my question you dont the trust the author about Robe sama if ever the anime getting second season? chriskor022 said: so you dont trust Somatoma for the decision the author of the series you reading? I understand the sentiment, but not trusting the one making the story is insulting tbh. Robe sama is not relevant in the debut or post debut. Its foreshadowing entity that relevant on Maryrose arc. So if the author can make it happen that foreshadowing around can make it to the future its plausible. Even if it weird, anime onlies does not see the difference. Us manga readers can because we know. Expressing concern over the plot of a story is the same as insulting the author?How? I think criticism is very much important to any medium. I fully respect the work of the author and admire them for the plot which they’ve given to us, but does that take away my right to criticize them? Insulting them would be if I abuse them by calling them names or sending death threats which I’m sane enough to not do. Criticism isn’t meant to always be taken in a negative light, if that’s what you think it is. And Robe sama is really important to the plot. Kate finding emilyko’s diary and reading about them is what moves the plot further. Its important character for the future not for now. |
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riasura said: To those who follow the manga and are concerned about today's change, Somato (the duo that makes Shadows House) gave an explanation on Twitter in which, if I did not misunderstand, he says that he had to do the script that way because of the number of chapters, but if adapted in more than one season it will add Robe's plot in a way that feels natural If you send the source that'll be really helpful and I'll be more assured :) |
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Scordolo said: riasura said: To those who follow the manga and are concerned about today's change, Somato (the duo that makes Shadows House) gave an explanation on Twitter in which, if I did not misunderstand, he says that he had to do the script that way because of the number of chapters, but if adapted in more than one season it will add Robe's plot in a way that feels natural If you send the source that'll be really helpful and I'll be more assured :) I posted the screenshot of that tweet on previous page of this thread :))) if you actually read it instead of wanting people to spoonfeed you :) you'd know it :) also you can just go on twitter yourself :) and look for somato :) never miss a tweet from him again :) |
Scordolo said: I literally put the translation earlier.riasura said: To those who follow the manga and are concerned about today's change, Somato (the duo that makes Shadows House) gave an explanation on Twitter in which, if I did not misunderstand, he says that he had to do the script that way because of the number of chapters, but if adapted in more than one season it will add Robe's plot in a way that feels natural If you send the source that'll be really helpful and I'll be more assured :) Here. Judevin said: KizuBlade said: First one reads:Can someone translate the author's second post? https://twitter.com/somatoma/status/1388673177258131459 Google translation is really confusing. If I'm not mistaken, the debut arc should be around 3 episodes and it seems what was missing will be introduced later in anime? We had to skip some parts and change the scripts to fit the story in one season. We’d try our best to connect the story so that it makes sense if we can get season two! Second one reads: BTW the reason why it took time to pay off the foreshadowing in manga is because we were planning to finish ‘the reveal’ within like 3episodes. (which we couldn’t)(but that’s the fun part of weekly magazine, you never know what’s gonna happen) |
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KuroNekoAlchemy said: I posted the screenshot of that tweet on previous page of this thread :))) if you actually read it instead of wanting people to spoonfeed you :) you'd know it :) also you can just go on twitter yourself :) and look for somato :) never miss a tweet from him again :) .........I didn't even knew there was a screenshot in the thread.No need to get mad over a small thing. |
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Thanks for the quotes and the link.I'll watch the anime as an anime only then read the Manga. |
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