| Hi, Sorry for the confusing subject heading as I was not sure how to word it correctly. When I first joined MAL around a decade ago (forgot my email to my account so lost it). Though that is not the reason I created this topic. Back then, when you were discussing/debate a anime/manga with other MAL users, it was like , you were up against scholar users. They would write a thesis or pages just to prove their point. Apologies to those that I have only read half the page as it was too long and admit my defeat. Nowadays, I have been a bit more active on MAL and noticed time has changed alot. Anime tastes has changed for MAL by looking at the top 10 anime/characters and so forth. This is the same for anime debate/discussion., When MAL users try to prove their point with a sentence /few sentences or repeat themselves and unable to expand their reasons/ opinions to a particular subject title. I have noticed a few MAl users are still active which I used to talk to and some have became a moderator. The generation back then , most likely half the users are now looking after their own family and busy working and not have as much time to spend on MAL This is just my observation and it is not a right or wrong answer. I would like to hear your thoughts and opinion, if you agree or disagree . Thank you for reading |
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| I miss the controversial topics, I know they'd get Spammy but they were fun But back when I was younger the forum rules were really loose, people were posting straight up Dick pics |
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| I joined the Mal recently so I ain't sure but there was an animation based on mal working and it stayed at the top place for few days, idk what was that but it had something to do with forums. |
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| I see no purpose in writing 10 lines of text about an anime I don't like, only sometimes. but if I like it I would write all of my thoughts |
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| Most Veteran users are not irritating and are some of the only people you can have any kind of decent discussion with. Of course there are some exceptions though. However not many since there aren't many active vets on here these days. New users are almost always intolerable and irritating. All they do is attack people for having an opinion that isn't theirs and harass others over politics. They made these boards go to shit. It doesn't matter where you go on here, which sub-forum, it's all the same shit. |
| Bro we used to have a "Spam" sub forum....it was fucking GLORIOUS. That was the peak of MAL. It's been downhill ever since. 2012-13 was alright too.. 2016 was one huge dumpster fire that needs to be erased. |
| You don't need old email to get your account just name and same IP adress or the original password. Only thing I miss about old mal was no 30 character limit. |
| ummmm this veteran vs newbie debate is pretty situational imo. Think about it, even if you have you're own opinion and a veteran and you scream on the top of your lungs every single day that SAO is pretty shite and should never exist, then I'd like to ask why are you still in this circle. I do not really care about pol side of things because like it's heavily really how you shitpost hard in that circle and always, it's you who lose if you try to get into it too much. People go through First love Euphoria, then afterwards enlightenment to open more, I dont really think think it depends much on how you've watch tons of anime but how you've open up to the defacto "rules" within the system (example: isekai boom and Ecchi series)... |
| I'm not convinced this is a matter of how long you've posted on this particular forum site. The real issue is whether you could intelligently articulate your feelings and thoughts. It's an IQ and EQ issue, or an educational issue. Think about it: We've all had to write essays throughout school, but if someone couldn't even defend something they love -- anime -- with a few sentences, then what does that say about their ability to defend a random prompt given to them? The ability to consider a topic, take a side, and reason through it is a cornerstone of critical thinking, and the people who struggle with that concept have much more to worry about besides how long they've posted here at MAL. |
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SaberHotMikasa said: This isn't how elitists are made. This is how people who want to help ignorant people and deliberately ignorant people are distinguished. Imagine talking to shit to your teacher because you hate your homework. It's just pathetic. In 10 years, you'll look back on your naive little 12 year old self and, depending on whether you take my advice, you'd either think,katsucats said: I'm not convinced this is a matter of how long you've posted on this particular forum site. The real issue is whether you could intelligently articulate your feelings and thoughts. It's an IQ and EQ issue, or an educational issue. Think about it: We've all had to write essays throughout school, but if someone couldn't even defend something they love -- anime -- with a few sentences, then what does that say about their ability to defend a random prompt given to them? The ability to consider a topic, take a side, and reason through it is a cornerstone of critical thinking, and the people who struggle with that concept have much more to worry about besides how long they've posted here at MAL. So you’re one of those people? This is how elitists are made lmao. Funny how he mention school essays even though they’re pretty shit & only the homework nerds wanted to do essays ๐
Clarification: He basically equated education -- and the proven correlation between the ability to argue a point with IQ (ever wonder why SAT scores correlate with IQ and why SAT scores have a written section?) -- with "elitism". If someone who's anti-education isn't ignorant, than I don't know what is. |
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SaberHotMikasa said: katsucats said: This isn't how elitists are made. This is how people who want to help ignorant people and deliberately ignorant people are distinguished. Imagine talking to shit to your teacher because you hate your homework. It's just pathetic. In 10 years, you'll look back on your naive little 12 year old self and, depending on whether you take my advice, you'd either think,
Clarification: He basically equated education -- and the proven correlation between the ability to argue a point with IQ (ever wonder why SAT scores correlate with IQ and why SAT scores have a written section?) -- with "elitism". If someone who's anti-education isn't ignorant, than I don't know what is. I’m not anti-education but the school system is broken as fuck & teaches us basically nothing important, just to memorize so saying Sat scores correlated with actual IQ is ridiculous as fuck. I agree that equating IQ with intelligence can be problematic (and equating SAT scores with intelligence is just as problematic since there are external factors that affect standardized testing scores). However, to say that the entire school system is useless is a reach. I do think that the system is a bit broken and things aren't always taught accurately (specifically in the social sciences) but he's right in saying that being able to assess a topic, take a side on it and convey your argument properly is corner stone of critical thinking (and kind of important when having a discussion lol). |
--ALEX-- said: Bro we used to have a "Spam" sub forum....it was fucking GLORIOUS. That was the peak of MAL. It's been downhill ever since. 2012-13 was alright too.. 2016 was one huge dumpster fire that needs to be erased. A spam subforum? How did that work out? It sounds interesting. |
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| I barely use this site anymore other than to update my list and only glance at the forums sometimes, and I do feel less passion in the community about the medium (anime) itself, I think it is not about the gap between old and new users, it's just that nowadays people seems to be not willing to invest in actual talking point other than their opinion, which is really not encouraging further discussion. |
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| Does anyone else remember taking advantage of the bad lag to add more anime to their favorites list back when you were allowed only 5 favorites from anime and 5 from manga...those were the days... |
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LucidDreamsED said: --ALEX-- said: Bro we used to have a "Spam" sub forum....it was fucking GLORIOUS. That was the peak of MAL. It's been downhill ever since. 2012-13 was alright too.. 2016 was one huge dumpster fire that needs to be erased. A spam subforum? How did that work out? It sounds interesting. It was basically Casual Discussion except ALMOST anything went. Like.....there could be a thread made and in one hour it would have a ton of responses....sometimes more than 100. Basically like a Chat. Except more fun. |
mistersunday said: External factors or whatnot, the only way to measure intelligence so far is the IQ test, and it's a fact that the IQ test correlates with SAT scores. As for the rest of SaberHotMikasa's response, sort of proves my point.SaberHotMikasa said: I’m not anti-education but the school system is broken as fuck & teaches us basically nothing important, just to memorize so saying Sat scores correlated with actual IQ is ridiculous as fuck. I agree that equating IQ with intelligence can be problematic (and equating SAT scores with intelligence is just as problematic since there are external factors that affect standardized testing scores). However, to say that the entire school system is useless is a reach. I do think that the system is a bit broken and things aren't always taught accurately (specifically in the social sciences) but he's right in saying that being able to assess a topic, take a side on it and convey your argument properly is corner stone of critical thinking (and kind of important when having a discussion lol). As for what intelligence actually measures, or whether we could formulate different kinds of intelligence, or whether the concept of intelligence is Euro-centric, those are philosophical debates for another thread in my opinion. Ironically though, given SHM's right wing leanings, I think he would fiercely contest that socioeconomic factors even exist. |
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katsucats said: mistersunday said: External factors or whatnot, the only way to measure intelligence so far is the IQ test, and it's a fact that the IQ test correlates with SAT scores. As for the rest of SaberHotMikasa's response, sort of proves my point.I agree that equating IQ with intelligence can be problematic (and equating SAT scores with intelligence is just as problematic since there are external factors that affect standardized testing scores). However, to say that the entire school system is useless is a reach. I do think that the system is a bit broken and things aren't always taught accurately (specifically in the social sciences) but he's right in saying that being able to assess a topic, take a side on it and convey your argument properly is corner stone of critical thinking (and kind of important when having a discussion lol). As for what intelligence actually measures, or whether we could formulate different kinds of intelligence, or whether the concept of intelligence is Euro-centric, those are philosophical debates for another thread in my opinion. Ironically though, given SHM's right wing leanings, I think he would fiercely contest that socioeconomic factors even exist. Yeah I didn't mean to suggest that IQ and SAT aren't correlated, more so that using those numbers as proxies for being 'smart' isn't ideal. Whether IQ is a good measure of intelligence or not is an entirely different debate, but many would argue it's not a robust measure of intelligence. Albeit I suppose that also feeds into the debate of what 'intelligence' really is and how we can operationalize it like you were saying. Incidentally SHM's posts striked me as left-wing more so than right-wing given the emphasis on how broken the school system is, it made my sympathetic to them in the first place lol. |
--ALEX-- said: It was basically Casual Discussion except ALMOST anything went. Like.....there could be a thread made and in one hour it would have a ton of responses....sometimes more than 100. Basically like a Chat. Except more fun. That seems pretty wild. Sucks it was shut down as that seems awesome. |
| "I suffered all my life. No one ever truly loved me. No one ever truly cared about me. I only loved one thing in my whole life and that was Christina Menefee. But she was torn away from me. I tried to save myself with [student’s name], but she never cared for me. As it turns out, she made fun of me behind my back while we were together. And all throughout my life I was ridiculed. Always beaten, always hated. [...] I am malicious because I am miserable." "It was not a cry for attention, it was not a cry for help. It was a scream in sheer agony [...]" -Luke Woodham |
| It's not a matter of how long someone has been around but rather how they are able to prove their point in general. People don't learn to prove their point from MAL alone. LucidDreamsED said: --ALEX-- said: Bro we used to have a "Spam" sub forum....it was fucking GLORIOUS. That was the peak of MAL. It's been downhill ever since. 2012-13 was alright too.. 2016 was one huge dumpster fire that needs to be erased. A spam subforum? How did that work out? It sounds interesting. You can find all of the old posts from the spam forum in forum games. Just go to the last page and you can see all of the spam stuff. |
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Bloomberry said: It's not a matter of how long someone has been around but rather how they are able to prove their point in general. People don't learn to prove their point from MAL alone. You can find all of the old posts from the spam forum in forum games. Just go to the last page and you can see all of the spam stuff. Really? Thanks! Gonna go check that out! :) |
| "I suffered all my life. No one ever truly loved me. No one ever truly cared about me. I only loved one thing in my whole life and that was Christina Menefee. But she was torn away from me. I tried to save myself with [student’s name], but she never cared for me. As it turns out, she made fun of me behind my back while we were together. And all throughout my life I was ridiculed. Always beaten, always hated. [...] I am malicious because I am miserable." "It was not a cry for attention, it was not a cry for help. It was a scream in sheer agony [...]" -Luke Woodham |
| SaberHotMikasa you dont know what elitist is actually. If i tell you to argue rationnally, it is for the purpose of a good conversation and interesting debate. If i tell you that i wont take into account your comment because you have nearly 3 time less anime total time watched than Katsucats has.... this is being an elitist. And right now i think he has better point than you. Why ? I have the choice to listen to a veteran anime watcher, who watched more than me and with an average score of 5.5 or a guy with a popular cliché caracter in its profile name and a whole bunch of useless add-on on his profile with 3 time less entry than me. The IQ is important when you have to recognize witch person you have to listen to for a good opinion on what you ask, and for your situation. If i start watching anime tomorow and people tells me to go look at SAO because its the best anime ever. I will blindly listen to him. If i start like that, and keep listening to the same guys i will only be a pale copy of his taste he decided to push on me for his own glory. This is what veterans hates. If I take the time to explain what i want to a bunch of expert anime watcher, they wiil most likely end up with a good proposition for me. And sometimes it will not be knows to everyones. This is what new members who tries to include themself in debate hates. An elitist would just push the same anime to anybody only because he think to be right all the time for anybody. |
| Depending on what you speak about and to who, yeah it is. The same is true for me or anybody. What im saying is that MAL put them all togheter, so obviously some debate will happen, and peoples with most watch will have more moderated opinions. But that does not mean they are more polite to express it ... But they have the background metrial to argue. |
SaberHotMikasa said: That is just factually untrue. It's been studied and cited hundreds of times in scientific literature, and your one-liner is a paltry defense in comparison.katsucats said: External factors or whatnot, the only way to measure intelligence so far is the IQ test, and it's a fact that the IQ test correlates with SAT scores. As for the rest of SaberHotMikasa's response, sort of proves my point. As for what intelligence actually measures, or whether we could formulate different kinds of intelligence, or whether the concept of intelligence is Euro-centric, those are philosophical debates for another thread in my opinion. Ironically though, given SHM's right wing leanings, I think he would fiercely contest that socioeconomic factors even exist. Lmao I’m not right wing but nice job putting that shitty label onto me. It’s also not a fact that IQ testes correlates with SAT scores since there’s a lot of arguments against that being true as well so you can’t say it’s a fact of life. You just want to make yourself sound smarter by saying that nonsense, it seems like but whatever floats your boat my friend. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/ You could argue that IQ is racist or classist, but you can't argue that IQ does not correlate with SAT scores. I can say it's a fact of life because it is. |
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SaberHotMikasa said: Okay, this is getting demented, as apparently you do not know what correlated means. SAT scores having a range does not in any way disprove a correlation. The fact is that people who have higher SAT scores will have higher IQ on average and this has been studied countless times, with hundreds of studies using the approximation. katsucats said: That is just factually untrue. It's been studied and cited hundreds of times in scientific literature, and your one-liner is a paltry defense in comparison. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/ You could argue that IQ is racist or classist, but you can't argue that IQ does not correlate with SAT scores. I can say it's a fact of life because it is. It’s not a fact of life. While there was once believed to be a strong connection between SAT and IQ, the fact that SAT scores can change dramatically has rendered the whole argument useless. The only thing it means is that if you do well on the SAT, it just means you are just good at taking the SAT, nothing else. If you want to know your IQ, take an IQ test. If you have a study you'd like to cite, I'm all ears. But so far it's like I'm saying that health is correlated with income, and you're saying there's is such a wide variance on income that it makes the argument useless, or that income proves income, but not health. It's such a non-sequitur that I lost brain cells typing it. |
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| I do miss the atmosphere of the 2010-2015 years, but it's been interesting to see how things have changed in terms of the userbase since then. I think the shitposts have gotten less funny overall, though. That makes me sad. But I've seen some juicy debates about all kinds of things with some of my "favorite" veteran users still involved just like old times, so that makes me happy. --ALEX-- said: Best fever dream ever. So much fun.It was basically Casual Discussion except ALMOST anything went. Like.....there could be a thread made and in one hour it would have a ton of responses....sometimes more than 100. Basically like a Chat. Except more fun. |
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