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| Ok do the doctor that tech dude is looking for must be Hina's grandpa, rather than her father like I was thinking last ep. It must have been something grandpops did to "heal" Hina, though it is probably only temporary. It would make sense if the world ending was actually only her world then. Still wondering how tech dude fills into all this. There has to be more with gramps scheme or something. |
| ngl i would have just started beating the fuck out of that dad like halfway through their beach convo |
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| I was waiting for them to sell me on the Hina ship...so with this and episode 07, they definitely have. Feeling very apprehensive now....:( |
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| I feel like they planted a seed in me today. I fear a river of tears.... :'( |
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SquishyPies said: SquishyPies said: Was it specified how old Hina was? She's like 15-16 wasn't she? Anyhow, people should have seen this coming as it's a cliche for the main male lead to initially like a side character and then slowly fall in love with the main female lead. it hasn’t been specified how old she is, but it’s been made clear MANY times now that Hina is a child. in the first episode they pointed out how she looks like she’s in grade school. she targeted lolicons/pedos at the festival because she thought they would want her (because she is a child). Youta’s parents called her a child when talking about her to Youta. The parents refer to her as "ano ko" which in Japanese means "that girl" and it would be used with any person under the age of....probably 20. Hina does not refer to herself as "a child", she refers to herself as a "loli" and a loli can be any age as long as she has the appearance of a young girl....but it would be rather odd for an ACTUAL child to refer to herself as such. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeDec 28, 2020 6:39 AM
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| I almost thought hina was a ghost kek, but yeah reality is a bitch and the most sensible thing to do is to enjoy the here and now. |
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| Ok, so basically she has some rare form of down syndrome having one three copies of chromosome 21 instead of two and the scientist actually found a cure which made her into genius mentally, but only for a year? No wonder secret agents are after her if she is working proof. The question is - where to go from here and if it can really fix several previous slapstick episodes that felt pretty ridiculous)/ Would be actually nice if viewers expectations were subverted this time and there was nothing supernatural in this Key work compared to previous games. But somehow I doubt Maede will do without any Key magic. btw - this was so Clannady scene:  (and some references to Little Busters too with that eloping being mentioned) (actually, every previous Key work was mentioned within this episode in some way - parents and the new family = Rewrite, ghost thing = Kanon, fade out on the train = Air etc and I probably missed few more) |
Syureria said: I know, this is a date xD... Rip Izanami Logos Syndrome ... It's a disease that causes the brain to atrophy and died at the age of seven  There is no such a thing as Logos syndrome. I searched the internet. |
| Hey, I am okay with them making up a disease as long as I get a name. "An illness" without them telling you what it actually is always drives me crazy. coughcoughIzanami'smom Making one up is more creative and less lazy....and you don't have to worry about researching it because you made it up. xD |
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| They had us in the first half, not gonna lie |
pie-_- said: ngl i would have just started beating the fuck out of that dad like halfway through their beach convo Everyone here's hating him but you realize he had to suffer a long time seeing his previous wife mental deterioration over their child's uncurable disease leading to her suicide? Hina is everything that reminds him of that time and he already closed that chapter of his life and moved on. His new wife's reaction is only telling how hard she had to work to help him overcome that pain. Would it be more ok if he actually suffered even more, staying with her and killing himself too? Or should he welcome her with open arms fearing the same happens down the line and bringing his second family to collapse again? It's not as easy as you may think and you can't judge his character just by that. |
SquishyPies said: SquishyPies said: Was it specified how old Hina was? She's like 15-16 wasn't she? Anyhow, people should have seen this coming as it's a cliche for the main male lead to initially like a side character and then slowly fall in love with the main female lead. it hasn’t been specified how old she is, but it’s been made clear MANY times now that Hina is a child. in the first episode they pointed out how she looks like she’s in grade school. she targeted lolicons/pedos at the festival because she thought they would want her (because she is a child). Youta’s parents called her a child when talking about her to Youta. she sleeps in the same bed as her foster parents for godssakes. there is nothing in the anime to suggest that Hina is at the same level of mental, emotional, or physical maturity as the other leads. i would agree that it’s a predictable twist IF Hina was the same age as the others. i didn’t really want to believe that this show was gonna have a college age dude fall in love with a (possibly mentally ill) CHILD, but here we are i guess? Hina "died" at the age of seven, then his father got remarried. We saw him with two children of the age 6-10 years old. I'll let you compute how old Hina could be. |
Chiibi said: The parents refer to her as "ano ko" which in Japanese means "that girl" and it would be used with any person under the age of....probably 20. Hina does not refer to herself as "a child", she refers to herself as a "loli" and a loli can be any age as long as she has the appearance of a young girl....but it would be rather odd for an ACTUAL child to refer to herself as such. also i’m geekin at you using あの子 as proof that she’s not a child and then mentioning that it isn’t an indicator of her age like lmao also yeah it would be weird for a kid to refer to themselves as a loli. would also be weird for a little girl to use the old-man-esque personal pronoun 我, or to refer to herself as an old Norse god. good thing there are no weird characters like that in this show! Hrybami said: Hina "died" at the age of seven, then his father got remarried. We saw him with two children of the age 6-10 years old. I'll let you compute how old Hina could be. now THIS is a good point. as far as this goes, i still can’t really see Hina being any older than 13, considering all the other evidence. i don’t know anyone who slept in their parents’ bed past the age of 7 or so, but Youtamom and Youtadad might be kind of babying her because she’s obviously mentally ill and probably very traumatized. i still don’t think Hina and Youta should be romantically involved. Hina is physically, mentally, and emotionally like a child, and Youta is getting ready to move into young adulthood. Hina’s entire character, from design to voice to actions, is childish. it would be really strange to suddenly go “and then Youta fell in love with her!” at this point. plus, it makes Izanami’s whole character arc feel kind of limp :( Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
anime-primeDec 28, 2020 6:39 AM
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| [quote=SquishyPies message=61261318] also i’m geekin at you using あの子 as proof that she’s not a child and then mentioning that it isn’t an indicator of her age like lmao It ISN'T, though. The kanji may mean "chlld" but a more appropriate translation would be "that girl". Even boys in manga and anime refer to girls their age as such. Despite being 17-18, Izanami would also be referred to as あの子 by Youta's parents if they did not know her name. i still don’t think Hina and Youta should be romantically involved. Good thing Maeda doesn't gaf about what YOU think. :) Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
anime-primeDec 28, 2020 6:40 AM
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Mich666 said: pie-_- said: ngl i would have just started beating the fuck out of that dad like halfway through their beach convo Everyone here's hating him but you realize he had to suffer a long time seeing his previous wife mental deterioration over their child's uncurable disease leading to her suicide? Hina is everything that reminds him of that time and he already closed that chapter of his life and moved on. His new wife's reaction is only telling how hard she had to work to help him overcome that pain. Would it be more ok if he actually suffered even more, staying with her and killing himself too? Or should he welcome her with open arms fearing the same happens down the line and bringing his second family to collapse again? It's not as easy as you may think and you can't judge his character just by that. How fragile is his damn new family that they can't make time for his apparently healthy daughter? He sees her in an unexplainable basically magical state of being seemingly cured and fine but can't accept it because it would be INCONVENIENT for him and his IMPORTANT family. There are other ways to deal with hardship than SUICIDE. Seeing her fine should have been one of the happiest moments of his life but he's so blinded by dumb selfish reasons that he can only feel negatively about it |
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| I have a theory that one year ago she was told by a doctor that she only has a year to live (guess based on how she said she's been a god for almost a year), which is why she believes the world will end soon, and that her sudden god complex was triggered by her neurological degeneration. However my theory still doesn't explain how she's able to walk and how she's able to perform miracles. |
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Mich666 said: fade out on the train = Air Wait, this was a reference??? I haven't seen or read Air, so I wouldn't know. I would really appreciate a source episode and/or timestamp. The fade out and sound muffling were so suspicious that I kept thinking that it meant something. |
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THIS CHAPTER TROLLED ME SO DAMN HARD WHEN THEY GOT TO HINA'S FATHER HOUSE OMG BEST ANIME HOLY HELL, HINA!!! Hina's backstory is really sad, and his father... I don't know, if he abandoned his daughter out of fear then he is a total piece of shit, but maybe, just maybe... Hina actually died in front of him...? A lot of things are starting to make sense now... and yet, so many new questions... Did Hina actually died? Was Hina a test subject to her grandfather who cured her syndrome? "The end of the world"... could it be the moment China's health ends, becoming sick and then quickly "dying" again?... All I can see for the end of this story is Youta crying, and I don't like it, I'm not ready... He cares so much about Hina, to the point of facing her father... I just want this dude to be happy goddamnit! What will the white haired boy and his organization do to Hina's father?, or most importantly, what will he do to Youta's family once he finds Hina? It's scary, but he doesn't really seems like a bad person... Oh man, I don't know if I want to know what will happend next or not, this episode hits so damn hard! |
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~ Btw, cry about it. |
| so what I'm getting is "end of the world" = Hina dies. only 2 questions remaining then. how did she got godlike abilities, and where does the chuuni dude gonna come into this picture? as for the dad, I totally got him. something kids cannot even get to comprehend. Yota sure is innocent but he'll grow up just like the dad. kids don't even know what it's like to work for money and spend it to a kid. I'm sure that for the dad, Hina is just nothing more but an expensive experience and by experience I mean him getting hurt for no reason other than because that's how the world works. Only giving me more reason to be glad that I'm single despite being 34. sucks to be a dad like him right? you know what I may as well just boldly say it: dad = cuck. there I said it. |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| I think that "world end" will actually be Hina's death :( |
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| First, I'll give the show credit for hardcore baiting me with the possibility that only Yota could see Hina, not least because I'm glad the show didn't actually take that route when it is one Maeda has used numerous times before (Ayu in Kanon (kind of) and Fuko in Clannad, for example). That aside, we now learn that the doctor was a mentor to Yota's parents and that was part of why he met Hina and she started living with them in the first place. And now onto the elephant in the room: if we take the father's words at face value, there's a very clear implication that Hina's recovery is a miracle that is soon going to come to an end. And, with such a strong focus on "the end of the world", I think it's fairly easy to piece this together: the supposed end of the world will be the end of Hina's miracle and the re-emergence of her Logos Syndrome, most likely followed by her death not long afterwards. Better prepare the tissues, as the sadness is well and truly about to begin. |
| Another sad episode. Hearing what happened to Hina was kind of depressing. Wonder if it still affect on her health... Also, Sora didn't have enough screen time in this episode. I am disappointed. |
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it seems that the past of the hina is very sad could have shown the flashback. |
| Seven episodes of basically slice of life, and now we have all this deep plot in 20 minutes. I'm skeptic, but also curious. |
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| I can't comprehend it completely as of now but my mind is filled with theories right now. Hina should have died around the age of 7. But is somehow still alive. That leads us to the question of - is this actually Hina or ..... maybe her clone?? Because her illness has no cure yet. Or did the professor already find a cure but has not disclosed it yet?? That's why Suzuki and others are tracking him!!?? Also, I'm starting to feel that it's not the end of the world but instead it's the end of Hina's world. It means that she's gonna die!!???? FUCK!!! Also that Suzuki guy is gonna get to her soon. With only 4 days remaining, we're reaching the climax. And, is Yota falling for Hina??? Definitely seems like it. |
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| I forgot to mention how I hated the dad down-talking miracles like that. What a cynic. Miracles DO happen and "no reality sets in". It's rare but it DOES happen. Case in point: Joyce Smith's The Impossible is an autobiography about how her son was underwater for 15 minutes, was pronounced dead, Joyce prayed, and he came back to life. No joke. You can Google this. I'm also not entirely skeptical that Hina DOES have supernatural powers of some sort...but too early to tell for sure. |
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| Jun Maeda's true genius is just beginning. My body is prepared for this, but my heart may not be able to take it. I already had a mini-heart attack during the tea scene. Hopefully the ending of the series will bring her incredible popularity on the level of Clannad or Angel Beats. |
| So the Granpa successfully somehow figured out how to fixed hina??? Hmmm... Interesting |
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| I'm already watched until this episode and still curious where the story will be going. And for Hina's father, I understand why he abandoned her. Raising a child is already stressful enough, and having your spouse died while being left with a disabled child makes it even worse. He's not doing the right thing, but at least he has a reason why he did that. |
| Honestly I can already see how the story goes now after this episode. It'd probably be like Plastic Memory or something. This serie also suffers the same issue of Plastic Memory -> having no plot direction other than throwing random events as filler until the inevitable sad fate arrives. Honestly I am pretty disappointed this serie is quite a bit more generic than I expected. I shed 0 tear after watching Plastic Memory because it is too predictable and bland. |
This is actually hilarious. Never thought studios did stuff like this. Lazy, efficient, or budget-friendly I wonder |
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BenDTU said: The Yota - Hina pairing is weird because until this point Hina has been presented as a child and Yota has shown zero romantic interest in her until suddenly he’s getting flustered by her out of nowhere. Their dynamic was more of Yota supervising an annoying younger cousin than anything. But given that her Father remarried and now has kids of his own I guess we should all make peace with the fact the show's likely going to pull a “Actually she’s an X years old AI cyborg” or whatever, with Izanami being saved to be Yota's backup girlfriend when Hina inevitably dies in the last episode. I mean I hope I’m wrong about where this is going but I don’t think I will be. I agree. It feel like Yota treat Hina like an annoying younger sister instead of romantic interest in past episodes. |
| Hina has Logos syndrome that causes deterioration in muscles and brain power. So, how is she so omniscient? Also, regardless of whatever happens, Hina's dad and that THOT are genuine arseholes. Also, Suzuki is getting to the roots of this thing. |
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| lmaoooo whatttt? anyway, this episode was something. So many questions left. 4 Days til the end of the world. |
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| Hum, it definitely sounds like Hina's going to die : so the end of the world actually means the end of HER world/life ? Possibly. I cannot stand people trying to meddle in an abandoned child's own private life. Only those we were abandoned then adopted - my case - can understand that part. While most people would ask with a fully innocent voice "wouldn't it be great if you could see your biological parents", we would just answer with a cold tone that it doesn't matter anymore. I truly despise fuckers trying to tell me I should investigate my own past or come back to my birth country : no one can understand the state of mind we all have to through once we grow up and realize the truth. |
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zinlister said: Since this is P.A Works there will be either a death flag or some sad goodbye or both. Love the studio, but I'm sick of them giving sad ending's in almost every project. it's not the studio it's Maeda Jun |
Otorez said: Hum, it definitely sounds like Hina's going to die : so the end of the world actually means the end of HER world/life ? Possibly. I cannot stand people trying to meddle in an abandoned child's own private life. Only those we were abandoned then adopted - my case - can understand that part. While most people would ask with a fully innocent voice "wouldn't it be great if you could see your biological parents", we would just answer with a cold tone that it doesn't matter anymore. I truly despise fuckers trying to tell me I should investigate my own past or come back to my birth country : no one can understand the state of mind we all have to through once we grow up and realize the truth. Um...I think you're taking it a little TOO personally...but the thing is, Hina DIDN'T seem to have a place to go back to; that's why Youta investigated. It's not like his parents said "We're gonna adopt her now." Thus, he was concerned about where Hina was going to go after she leaves his house. Back on the subject....I watched a show where they find parents of abandoned/lost children when they became adults; it brought tears to my eyes because everyone was overjoyed to see each other. So...I doubt everyone in this situation feels the exact same way as you do. No offense. |
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Chiibi said: Otorez said: Hum, it definitely sounds like Hina's going to die : so the end of the world actually means the end of HER world/life ? Possibly. I cannot stand people trying to meddle in an abandoned child's own private life. Only those we were abandoned then adopted - my case - can understand that part. While most people would ask with a fully innocent voice "wouldn't it be great if you could see your biological parents", we would just answer with a cold tone that it doesn't matter anymore. I truly despise fuckers trying to tell me I should investigate my own past or come back to my birth country : no one can understand the state of mind we all have to through once we grow up and realize the truth. Um...I think you're taking it a little TOO personally...but the thing is, Hina DIDN'T seem to have a place to go back to; that's why Youta investigated. It's not like his parents said "We're gonna adopt her now." Thus, he was concerned about where Hina was going to go after she leaves his house. Back on the subject....I watched a show where they find parents of abandoned/lost children when they became adults; it brought tears to my eyes because everyone was overjoyed to see each other. So...I doubt everyone in this situation feels the exact same way as you do. No offense. I'm naturally taking this case personally since it reminded me some part of my own life, Youta being an approximate version of people I met. They always thought it'd - I'm quoting - wonderful if I could see my biological parents once in my life, like they all had pre-tears of joy & a smile when saying that. Can't imagine for a second that it'd cause much more trouble on both sides. Obviously, do you think they'd hire someone like me who'd rather punch my biological "parents" until they pass out ? Naturally no, and I fully understand their choices. It's better to show some tears & joy instead of pure hatred. Just keep in mind that many adopted children don't think deeply about their past, as it would consume them into negative feelings. And it's perfectly doable to live a regular life, to the point you forgot you were adopted. I actually interrogated some adopted children I met through the years : no one really thought very deeply about this subject. Can't actually predict what would happen if they did. I'm just aware that my case & state of mind aren't uniques at all. |
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Otorez said: Chiibi said: Um...I think you're taking it a little TOO personally...but the thing is, Hina DIDN'T seem to have a place to go back to; that's why Youta investigated. It's not like his parents said "We're gonna adopt her now." Thus, he was concerned about where Hina was going to go after she leaves his house. Back on the subject....I watched a show where they find parents of abandoned/lost children when they became adults; it brought tears to my eyes because everyone was overjoyed to see each other. So...I doubt everyone in this situation feels the exact same way as you do. No offense. I'm naturally taking this case personally since it reminded me some part of my own life, Youta being an approximate version of people I met. But since Hina DOESN'T have adopted parents or a place to go, isn't it different? If she was being raised by some other family, I'm sure Youta wouldn't say "Let's go find your real parents". But Hina's not, she is all alone. Trying to find parents or at least someone to care for her is a natural human response, isn't it? |
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| Hahhahahaha I don't even know what to talk about. ;( She got abondened and that my friends is sad... We got some jokes so that is nice I guess... We know where this is going... I am scared of the next episodes. |
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Tempest-21 said: I do wish that Hina and Yota's relationship just turns out platonic and that it's just one guy who really cares for someone who changed his life and that there would be no romance between them No Jun Maeda story is ever that way. He. Likes. Romance. He is Makoto Shinkai before Makoto Shinkai started making movies lol. All I'm saying is "don't watch a Jun Maeda/ Key series expecting a platonic story." You won't get that. |
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| This episode is kinda dismal and the rest episodes seem even sadder :/ |
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| Hina story seem less emotional than Izanami story before. Lol, this episode title, I thought it was another happy episode on the beach but it just showing Hina father is just an asshole to abandoned her own daughter and go create a new happy family for himself. Hina once sick and now she is well and got special power herself, wonder how she got that power. |
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