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| censorship before the stabbing happened ruined the moment. It was like screaming here comes a spoiler. I don't want a preamble, i just want the blood. well. the first three episode was amazing. but with this one i felt really awkward |
littleproblems said: AnitadellaBrisa said: I don't know how many times this has to be said: you cannot show that on television regardless of it airing at 23:30. There is something very wrong with MAL users where they think uncensored BDs aired originally on television. The stream I watched the episode live at had a completely black screen during the stabbing part. There very well could've been a Nice Boat during the airing, but thankfully there wasn't. Wait until the BDs release for it to be uncensored.censorship before the stabbing happened ruined the moment. It was like screaming here comes a spoiler. I don't want a preamble, i just want the blood. well. the first three episode was amazing. but with this one i felt really awkward is it so bad to complain for free? LOL i know it's nothing new, it was more of than exaggerate the annoyance than a real complaint. maybe I have missed a few emojis to relax that I felt awkward really wasn't because of censorship, it was the whole climate / pace of the episode compared to the previous three |
| I've seen the School Days ending enough times that I just "yeah, no" the murder scene and the fact that Keiichi survived. |
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Alfonse said: Same, I was expecting Keichii to be reset like a time loop. But nope, he survived the stabs to his stomach. Unbelievable. This episode destroyed the tensions and buildups up till this point. Finger crossed that this show won't turn into a hot garbage. There is no fucking way anyone can survive those many stab wounds. If the point of the show was to ask the viewer to guess if these events actually took place, then they do a really horrible job of portraying it because they very obviously didn't based on the fact that he survived despite 20+ stab wounds and rena died from getting bonked by a box. I'll give the show credit for definitely giving us a twist but the execution was terrible. It tried too hard + the censorship made it worse. |
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littleproblems said: The censorship destroys the tensions, in my opinion. Here's how I look at it, you either show the gore, or you don't. Trying to cover it up with dark spots or pointing the camera away from the stabbing takes people out of the scene. Which is a no no. Even without the censorship, I would still have laughed at the absurdity of this episode. It was genuinely a ludicrous episode to watch. AnitadellaBrisa said: I don't know how many times this has to be said: you cannot show that on television regardless of it airing at 23:30. There is something very wrong with MAL users where they think uncensored BDs aired originally on television. The stream I watched the episode live at had a completely black screen during the stabbing part. There very well could've been a Nice Boat during the airing, but thankfully there wasn't. Wait until the BDs release for it to be uncensored.censorship before the stabbing happened ruined the moment. It was like screaming here comes a spoiler. I don't want a preamble, i just want the blood. well. the first three episode was amazing. but with this one i felt really awkward |
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herrickluk said: As far as the direction for this episode, and with this season in general... The issue I have with this adaptation is they try too hard to purposefully be scary, but it actually detracts from the overall tone of the story.   For instance, these scenes are supposed to be creepy, but they just end up being funny — how the fingers slowly creep inwards and the whole stabbing scene. It's entertaining and very in-your-face, but a totally different feel from the OG. The best way I can describe it is a scary movie that relies on shock value and jump scares rather than a more subtle and creepy approach that messes with you psychologically. I prefer the more subtle approach of the OG. 100% agree with this ^^ There was something from the OG's vibe that constantly kept me creeped out. The stabbing scene in this episode reminded me of the ending of School Days. I found it hilarious lol. The episode is still entertaining though but not really scary. Let's see how this goes. |
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ChetanS said: kofmaster said: What Rika said have A LOT of sense when you watched the old show xD. I'll not tell you the spoiler, but yeah that's not so WTF as it looks xD. wait in the previous Yeah, I've watched its previous seasons. BTW which spoiler? Is it related to previous seasons? In the original series of when they cry,in episode 4 "Disturbance (Chapter: Spirited Away by the Demon, Part 4)" Rena-chan did come to Keichi-san's house, but because Rika did not tell those motivational stuff in the original series,Keichi-san hesitated to open the door causing Rena-chan to break her few fingers. Quick side note in that original series they did not tell anything about yamainu bringing all those boxes.... |
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Eternity46 said: Spoiler to those who havent watching the original series. Quick side note in that original series they did not tell anything about yamainu bringing all those boxes.... |
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Woodfall said: Eternity46 said: Spoiler to those who havent watching the original series. Quick side note in that original series they did not tell anything about yamainu bringing all those boxes.... Takano just faked her death like always..... In the original only yamainu knew about her being alive, , even TOKYO didn't know, and because of that TOKYO taught all their staffs, Irie (killed by yamainu later) and takano , dead so without obligation did the "Procedure 34" |
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Woodfall said: Eternity46 said: Spoiler to those who havent watching the original series. Quick side note in that original series they did not tell anything about yamainu bringing all those boxes.... Maybe this arc or this 4 episodes reflect the Chapter: Spirited Away by the Demon , the first 5 episodes from the first season, but the only difference is this time Rika said some stuff to Keichi leading him to open the door to Rena which he did not do before causing all this havoc. Afterall Rika thought that by telling this to keichi he might be able to trust Rena but who thought that Rena had plans for killing keichi... |
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| oh my god! this episode is just...i'm speechless ...it's just gruesome! 5/5! |
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krukrooo said: herrickluk said: As far as the direction for this episode, and with this season in general... The issue I have with this adaptation is they try too hard to purposefully be scary, but it actually detracts from the overall tone of the story. For instance, these scenes are supposed to be creepy, but they just end up being funny — how the fingers slowly creep inwards and the whole stabbing scene. It's entertaining and very in-your-face, but a totally different feel from the OG. The best way I can describe it is a scary movie that relies on shock value and jump scares rather than a more subtle and creepy approach that messes with you psychologically. I prefer the more subtle approach of the OG. 100% agree with this ^^ There was something from the OG's vibe that constantly kept me creeped out. The stabbing scene in this episode reminded me of the ending of School Days. I found it hilarious lol. The episode is still entertaining though but not really scary. Let's see how this goes. You have a problem with this but I bet you find the scene where super creepy and serious. Jesus.... |
| >Watches a show focused on the underlying meaning, about reading between the lines and looking for hidden messages. >Takes everything at face value. That's basically over half of this thread. Honestly I'm so excited about this new season. They gave subtle hints all the way about Rena and K1, was he the crazy one or her? Turns out they both might be. Since we're following his perspective, it's hard to tell. I don't think he actually managed to snap out of it when Rena came over. Just my point if view. The nurse, is she.. |
Valandis said: >Watches a show focused on the underlying meaning, about reading between the lines and looking for hidden messages. >Takes everything at face value. That's basically over half of this thread. Honestly I'm so excited about this new season. They gave subtle hints all the way about Rena and K1, was he the crazy one or her? Turns out they both might be. Since we're following his perspective, it's hard to tell. I don't think he actually managed to snap out of it when Rena came over. Just my point if view. The nurse, is she.. Featherine is in the OP actually. At this point, I am just waiting for Bernkastel to show up |
Devil_Slayer said: Valandis said: >Watches a show focused on the underlying meaning, about reading between the lines and looking for hidden messages. >Takes everything at face value. That's basically over half of this thread. Honestly I'm so excited about this new season. They gave subtle hints all the way about Rena and K1, was he the crazy one or her? Turns out they both might be. Since we're following his perspective, it's hard to tell. I don't think he actually managed to snap out of it when Rena came over. Just my point if view. The nurse, is she.. Featherine is in the OP actually. At this point, I am just waiting for Bernkastel to show up not featherine, its frederica, which derived from Rikas name "Furuderika", the actual name is Furuderika bernkastel |
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Eternity46 said: Devil_Slayer said: Featherine is in the OP actually. At this point, I am just waiting for Bernkastel to show up not featherine, its frederica, which derived from Rikas name "Furuderika", the actual name is Furuderika bernkastel Frederica doesnt have "horns".The silhouette in the OP has horns and the only ones with "horns" are smol Auau and big Auau. And Frederica Bernkastel and Witch Bernkastel are two different entities. Just saying. |
| I didn't mind the changes so much until Keiichi gets stabbed multiple time and still survives specially the way Rena was stabbing him and all that blood splattered around I was expecting him to die with a single stab but he even has the energy to fight back!? And Rena dies!? That was incredibly dumb. |
ssjokg said: Eternity46 said: not featherine, its frederica, which derived from Rikas name "Furuderika", the actual name is Furuderika bernkastel Frederica doesnt have "horns".The silhouette in the OP has horns and the only ones with "horns" are smol Auau and big Auau. And Frederica Bernkastel and Witch Bernkastel are two different entities. Just saying. OOo by freatherine you mean that women...As umineko is stated in the same universe as higurashi, she is surely from the clan of Hanyuu(Shrine God).... And frederica bernkastel is an entity who is independent from rika....Bernkastel is the other personality of rika which, by changing between world lines, became independent . There is also another theory that she was created from the endless desire of Rika wanting to become and adult and leave the loop hole.......... |
XxEternityxXOct 24, 2020 6:47 AM
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| I think Frederica Bernkastel from Umineko is after all the Bernkastel we see at the post-credit scene of Higurashi kai. Because In Umineko she said that she had lived for thousands of years, something said only once, but she did say that "she will end this thousand-year-long loophole this time," in kai. |
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| As a newbie of this anime i really enjoying this and so much mystery i need to think about. If Rena actually died this so early what a waste i really love her sane personality (if its actually true that she had mental problems) xD she's really cute af. I think Keichii was the one who killed Rena, its opposite of what happened that explains the bondage from his neck and he able to survived. I dont know thats just my hypothesis. This anime is 24 episodes i wonder what will gonna happen next Rena just died so early. |
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krukrooo said: herrickluk said: As far as the direction for this episode, and with this season in general... The issue I have with this adaptation is they try too hard to purposefully be scary, but it actually detracts from the overall tone of the story. For instance, these scenes are supposed to be creepy, but they just end up being funny — how the fingers slowly creep inwards and the whole stabbing scene. It's entertaining and very in-your-face, but a totally different feel from the OG. The best way I can describe it is a scary movie that relies on shock value and jump scares rather than a more subtle and creepy approach that messes with you psychologically. I prefer the more subtle approach of the OG. 100% agree with this ^^ There was something from the OG's vibe that constantly kept me creeped out. The stabbing scene in this episode reminded me of the ending of School Days. I found it hilarious lol. The episode is still entertaining though but not really scary. Let's see how this goes. The explanation is simple. Things/details you DON'T get to see are far more disturbing (also it's way cheaper not showing stuff, so it's a win win). In the OG series they played around with everything they got to get the atmosphere right. In this one i think everything was alright if not slightly better, except the 4th episode. Sadly the whole Reena and Keichii scene in the house was directed poorly. There are a lot of still camera shots; I think the continuous neck scratching in the kitchen also didn't help. The viewer attention is split in half between that and Reena's words. (Also the vignette effect was kinda strange). Maybe this is also because the art style is saturated and vibrant in contrast to the original; Not sure. I think even the studio realized that something was off with the whole scene, but they settled with that and moved on to invest time on the next stuffs. Let's hope the next arcs fixes those kind of things. |
VinegarLoveOct 24, 2020 8:20 AM
| People seriously hating on the scene being over the top and defending DEEN version? The nostalgia is seriously affecting the judgment of some. Both are over the top, but Higurashi Gou actually give more context to what is happening, while the original anime is just Keiichi going insane and the whole village is after his head. Higurashi Kai was okay, but the first season was garbage on many levels. |
Eternity46 said: Idk man her car was still at the festival which makes no sense according to what her plans usually are. Makes me think something actually happened to her at the festival in this arc and now the Yamainu are getting out of there because the person that hired them is MIA.Takano just faked her death like always..... In the original only yamainu knew about her being alive, , even TOKYO didn't know, and because of that TOKYO taught all their staffs, Irie (killed by yamainu later) and takano , dead so without obligation did the "Procedure 34" |
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Devil_Slayer said: People seriously hating on the scene being over the top and defending DEEN version? The nostalgia is seriously affecting the judgment of some. Both are over the top, but Higurashi Gou actually give more context to what is happening, while the original anime is just Keiichi going insane and the whole village is after his head. Higurashi Kai was okay, but the first season was garbage on many levels. It's not nostalgia at all when the Deen version had undeniably better directing and shot compostion for the first arc. People are complaining more or so with how cheesy some of the "scary" parts of the first arc comes across at times for Gou. Not everyone who thinks this way is an old viewer. |
Eternity46 said: I think Frederica Bernkastel from Umineko is after all the Bernkastel we see at the post-credit scene of Higurashi kai. Because In Umineko she said that she had lived for thousands of years, something said only once, but she did say that "she will end this thousand-year-long loophole this time," in kai. Frederika Bernkastel and Bernkastel are two different beings. Frederika Bernkastel is still Rika but with the wisdom and knowledge of all those loops. Bernkastel is the collective despair of Rika separated from her. Bernkastel wouldn't go back in time to save Miyo. At best she would show hee a future where her parents live a luxurious life while she is has that shitty life at the orphanage. |
ssjokg said: Eternity46 said: I think Frederica Bernkastel from Umineko is after all the Bernkastel we see at the post-credit scene of Higurashi kai. Because In Umineko she said that she had lived for thousands of years, something said only once, but she did say that "she will end this thousand-year-long loophole this time," in kai. Frederika Bernkastel and Bernkastel are two different beings. We don't know that. I mean actual Bernkastel does show up in the manga but not in the anime. |
Devil_SlayerOct 24, 2020 9:57 AM
Devil_Slayer said: We don't know that. I mean actual Bernkastel does show up in the manga but not in the anime. Because Deen sucks.... You mean Frederika right? |
| FINALLY! THE BLOODSHED HAS COMMENCED!!! I shouldn't have drinked my coffee before coming in to this episode. Such a bad choice in my part, I learned my lesson. I'll be honest here, I am genuinely scared throughout this episode. Now I am one of the new fans, and I still haven't watched the original. If I have a bit more time for myself, then maybe I'll watch the 2006 version side by side with the 2020 version. With that method, I no longer have to bury myself further thinking that this was a newcomer-friendly remake. (so guess I'll do just that) Anyways my heart was beating so fast for a couple of minutes, because for one this is my first true horror anime, damn it. Two, I already know it's going to be THE scene. Now in their confrontation, obviously it's the middle of the night and your parents somehow left the house. That's just the right time for Rena to finally face Keiichi-kun and kill him goodbye. I don't know why but that stabbing scene didn't hit me deep than the heart-wrenching buildup. Yeah they're trying for a "dark background shift" for the grueling scene, yet the payoff for the scene was mid. Overall, what a bloody battle between the two. I don't know why Keiichi is still goddamn alive after that, that is a clear locked-in murder. But nope he stayed alive with Rena nowhere in sight (it just took a container to pass her out wtf). We also learned that Rika and Satoko are both dead. Which gives me an idea that they are the substitutes for Rena's failed murder of Keiichi. But who knows it's just my personal theory, don't know shit on what happened in the original. And Mion is somehow alive, she should be scared by that fact right? Anyways I have goosebumps with that nurse, leaving us with a Subaru-style screaming Keiichi cliffhanger. Well folks, I think I'm gonna watch the first four episodes of the 2006 anime now. There's no point of continuing blind in this direction so yeah...Don't drink coffee before watching a thriller/horror anime! |
raiderublazeOct 24, 2020 10:02 AM
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ssjokg said: Devil_Slayer said: We don't know that. I mean actual Bernkastel does show up in the manga but not in the anime. Because Deen sucks.... You mean Frederika right? The whole ordeal is confusing and messy. Frederika is also described as someone who travels around and enjoys playing with world fragments, which is exactly the same as Bernkastel. Both of them are supposed to be a higher existence of Rika that exists in the Meat world after Rika abandoned her power. I think Frederika is just Proto Bernkastel because 07 didn't come up with the actual witch Bernkastel at the time. |
Woodfall said: Eternity46 said: Idk man her car was still at the festival which makes no sense according to what her plans usually are. Makes me think something actually happened to her at the festival in this arc and now the Yamainu are getting out of there because the person that hired them is MIA.Takano just faked her death like always..... In the original only yamainu knew about her being alive, , even TOKYO didn't know, and because of that TOKYO taught all their staffs, Irie (killed by yamainu later) and takano , dead so without obligation did the "Procedure 34" The fact that she left her car is to make others convince she is dead dumbass. Yamainu has a central control truck, if you have seen the original then you would know that she was hiding in that truck and giving commands to Yamainu. And Remember one thing... In the original in every death or missing case takano is related some way, but there is also a chance that this is a world where Bernkstel saved Takanos parents causing her not to become the antagonist, I have taken that in account. But one thing is for sure, somekind of secret is still hiding even after 14 years of this anime that they will uncover this time changing our perspective of this entire story.... |
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ovy7 said: I honestly have no idea how people that watched the original and know what was going on can question what went on in this episode with the fight. Did you guys forgot one of the most important plot points and reveals in the OG which puts the entire first season in a different perspective? Like, I can understand the people that are new to Higurashi (and When They Cry in general), they have a reason for thinking the episode was weird, but the people who already watched the og and know the secrets? Like, come on! I absolutely agree. My theory would be a spoiler for newcomers: |
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cities516Oct 24, 2020 1:36 PM
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| I absolutely love how this is connected to the original events and at the same doesn't. I love it. The episode was so good. I was a bit skeptical about how they would have handled those type of scenes but? It was perfect. Even more gruesome than the original to some points for me. Really an amazing job. |
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| Came in blind having only read the synopsis. Thought it would be like a psychological thriller/horror but that I did not expect that at all. I kind of like it. |
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| hey...K1's mom remember to sharpen ur kitchen knife. I can't believe you cook daily with a knife that's not even be used to kill a person. |
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