| My opinion about hip-hop songs is the fact that they always use <insert N-word as an adjective> people as their great tendency to rap “well” with cringy lyrics like flexing money and showing off your Lamborghini. Most likely, the gangster-ish hip-hop songs that produced by some thugs with sleeveless top, gold-chained necklace, and “cool” hat seemed to be overrated, and I understand why it’s so “good” for others to listen to those popular gangster-ish hip hop songs. They have no meaning within its lyrics other than boasting about their money, cigarettes, and any other kinds of flex. And now, they just used it for the memes which is great because that’s their only purpose to produce most hip-hop songs like “Smoke weed everyday”. It’s more like the gangsters have no meaning in life other than shooting around and said, “We belong to the streets... boyzzzzzz!” Whether white or black people, I disliked these type of people especially they’re talented. Most or all of them are 1/10 for me, I don’t understand why most people around the world will still listen to that kind of song. |
HanashiD4Aug 17, 2020 8:40 PM
 "You don't get it, a million sorry's is not equal to one thank you." — Emilia |
| Rock songs also promoted drugs and sex. I don't really care as much about what songs are about as long as they sound good though. I like upbeat fun music, don't need deep lyrics lol. Really though I think all music genres have good and bad songs in them. You probably shouldn't limit yourself, it's good to branch out. You might find some hip hop and rap you really like someday. |
See, what you are doing is generalizing a whole genre based on mainstream stuff. If that is the case, then:
Mainstream rap fits your criteria but that is by no means the majority, but you don't care about that cause you'd rather write off an entire genre of music. Honestly OP, it is the same for anime. You have to go past the mainstream stuff and listen to some "underrated" hip-hop songs. But, I guess I agree with you that mainstream songs are pretty garbage... |
| This is such a dumb generalization. Every genre, especially the popular stuff, is filled with shallow topics. Here's a recent modern classic. Doesn't fit anything of what you're talking about There's hundreds of other rappers who talk about really deep issues and things other then mainstream flexing. Now you can dislike hip hop all you want, music is incredibly subjective, but don't make massive generalizations about something you clearly know nothing about. To put it in anime terms, imagine if someone only saw hentai and declared that all anime is hentai. That would be pretty stupid, right? That's what you're doing with rap. |
   I swear, I don't have a thing for blondes. |
| This is a troll? Hip hop from being gangsta nowadays that shit is emo AF. "Why people still listen to it" Appeal majority of the youngters. |
| Sounds like you're inexperienced with rap. There are great rap songs out there, and this is coming from someone who has dedicated their life to music. |
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| uh, yeah....nah |
| This thread is ghastly and I don't know why you feel the need to post about something you have zero knowledge of. Holy ignorance |
goldenskinmaster said: Here's a recent modern classic. Doesn't fit anything of what you're talking about I had a feeling it would be K-Dot even before I clicked |
Some of you never watched Bakugan Battle Brawlers on TeleToon in 2008 and it shows. |
| Granted, there is a lot of shallow hip-hop out there. However, pretty much all genres have trite, cliched songs and artists. Lumping artists like Nas and Kendrick Lamar alongside the Lil Pumps and Soulja Boys of the world is not only reductive, but utterly foolish to be perfectly frank. |
Take care of yourself |
Hillary_Clinton_ said: herbo said: kendrick lamar could be viewed as a conscious hip-hop artist that preaches his worldview based on his harsh background as a black man from compton, which torments him even to this day yes imagine the sheer torment of getting free handouts and getting 90% more priority than white and asian college/job applicants. THA STRUGGLE ThatRazorGuy said: Lumping artists like Nas and Kendrick Lamar alongside the Lil Pumps and Soulja Boys of the world is not only reductive, but utterly foolish to be perfectly frank. I like how Nas is supposed to be some counterexample of exemplary, intelligent hip-hop when his best album contains lines like "It's only right that I was born to use mics And the stuff that I write, is even tougher than dykes" and "Musician, inflictin' composition, of pain I'm like Scarface sniffin' cocaine" Seems like a seriously low bar to be honest. Zeroflamez said: This thread is ghastly and I don't know why you feel the need to post about something you have zero knowledge of. Holy ignorance No other genre evokes this kind of righteous sanctimony when you criticize it. White guilt's a hell of a drug Yeah i must be white cause I'm defending a black music genre I listen to. Too bad I'm black so take your white guilt bullshit and shove it up your ass. Instigating troll. |
| I feel you're only talking about mainstream rap and hip-hop. I would agree that the mainstream side is pretty much worthless. Old school and underground rap has some good shit and actually has something meaningful to say. Maybe expand your horizons a bit. Who knows, maybe you'll like it then. |
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| Maybe listen to more than just Post Malone. |
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o----o said: mrnicotine said: expand your horizons, not all rap is about drugs, money, sex, etc. listen to kendrick, j. cole, and certain kanye songs and you'll realize you're being close-minded. Right. "Not all criminals are dishonest. Look at Robin Hood and certain acts of Joker and you'll realize you're being close-minded". You have some things to understand before you grow up. exactly, same things could be applied to edm, rock, indie, etc. op needs to learn that :) |
| Nice tutorial for how to be a generalizing, ignorant, willfully misinformed prick. I've disliked that kind of lyrics my entire life and still HipHop and Rap is by far my favorite type of music. You're just ignorant as fuck and probably on purpose too, having no interest to explore the genre beyond the biggest and most negative clichés you can think of. But in the unlikely case you'd care about seeing some examples of fantastic rap artists not fitting your narrow gangster stereotype here are some good songs by great artists. And that's just a very small selection of artists with millions of views that are as popular as they come. Each of them has dozens or hundreds of other songs without any gangster bullshit and there aare thousands of other artists, les spopular than those or just people I missed because there are too many to list. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
_Maneki-Neko_ said: I don't like most hip hop or rap I know either. Most sounds like a big redneck or unlikeable wannabe gangster who insult your everyone and everything in the world. Although there is one German rapper called Alligatoah. He has some great sense of humor, some truth in his lyrics and is often critizing and satirizing society. I thought I'd never say this, but now here I am, saying I like one rapper / hip hop artist lol I disagree with a few somgs tho, but many I know from him do have great lyrics. https://lyricstranslate.com/en/alligatoah-denk-die-kinder-lyrics.html https://lyricstranslate.com/en/alligatoah-gute-bekannte-lyrics.html https://lyricstranslate.com/en/alligatoah-vor-gericht-lyrics.html https://lyricstranslate.com/en/alligatoah-wie-zuhause-lyrics.html https://lyricstranslate.com/en/alligatoah-wo-kann-man-das-kaufen-lyrics.html There are translations; just a few examples. And of course, here and there I heard other rap songs as well that had more content than "look what a great motherfucker I am, I got money and bitches!", but the most I heard from were those people and I don't like hip hop or rap enough to look for hidden gems. I won't say that they don't exist tho. alligatoah is great but he's just about as mainstream as it gets and really just the tip of the iceberg for good german rap with substance, although he's probably the most musical example (which is why he's so popular outside the core rap fandom). I don't even think you need to go and look for hidden gems - most of the stuff I posted above is not ver yhidden with tens or hundreds of millions of views. Of course with german rap stuff is a bit more 'hidden' because of the lower overall popularity, but there's still a big difference between the really hidden gems and the fairly big scene of non-gangster rap that has flourished since, well, before gangsterrap became a thing. My experience with american rap is very rudimentary and still I can instantly list dozens of popular artists that don't fit the stereotype. With german rap, I can list you hundreds cause that's really my main music I've listened to since I've been 13 and I always dislike the gangster rap type. If you don't mind a few recs, so you don't have to look for them, here you go: Maeckes Tua Die Orsons Weekend Juse Ju K.I.Z. Zugezogen Maskulin Moop Mama Prezident Damion Davis Fatoni Kraftklub Kummer Genetikk Döll Umse 3Plusss Megaloh Pimf Chissmann coru Punjizz Edgar Wasser Antilopengang Danger Dan Koljah & NMZS Blumentopf I could go on for hours but this is a good mix of contemporary and upcoming artists and alltime greats of german rap outside of gangster and representer stuff. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| No you're not the only one I'm not a fan of degeneracy either I can't listen to their songs without losing brain cells. |
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| Thought I'd drop this one here as well. I honestly prefer this over the original. |
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| Judging from the way you introduced you topic, I still cannot understand if you were trying to refer to classic Hip Hop of the early to mid 1980s, classic Rap from the 90s through the mid 2000s , or whatever the random crud thats around since 2008 onward is called ( its not Rap...rap had its time, and hip hop...its so rare to actually hear it now, I just call the stuff people do no "mumble rap talk" like everyone else. But to each their own. Ya had to be there decades ago. *shrugs * |
| spoken like a guy who doesn't know hip hop |
| I like hip-hop but I also dislike it because my melanin levels don't allow me to sing along. |
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| You know nothing of music. If you want deep talk go read a book. Hip-hop songs have evolved to be fun. 70% of the song is the beat. Dub any rapper over it and it's going to hit hard regardless, obviously, it depends on the skill, but you get my point. Hip-hop switched from lyrics to melody, get with the times old man. Or go listen to The Smiths or something. Oh wait, you're one of those wrong generation boys. God dammit. |
| Does anybody know what opinion really mean? Oh wait... I guess I have to rename my title. |
"You don't get it, a million sorry's is not equal to one thank you." — Emilia |
Hillary_Clinton_ said: Dunno, you can ask OP but we all know that's a very low IQ excuse to use anyway.Yarub said: You know nothing of music. If you want deep talk go read a book. Hip-hop songs have evolved to be fun. 70% of the song is the beat. Dub any rapper over it and it's going to hit hard regardless, obviously, it depends on the skill, but you get my point. Hip-hop switched from lyrics to melody, get with the times old man. Or go listen to The Smiths or something. Oh wait, you're one of those wrong generation boys. God dammit. Maybe OP has an IQ of over 70 and garbage music isn't his idea of fun? I love it, non-Americans lecturing Americans who have had rap shoved down their throats since the 80s about how American music genres "evolved," as if your wikipedia knowledge means you have more of a clue than people who actually live here. keep sucking that globalist cock and letting your culture erode into a sterile paste where the lyrics of the defining songs of a generation are mostly bird noises and references to shoe brands. you might not have a soul or any capacity for internal dialogue, but at least you're not a le wrong generation kid I mean, I'd get that if you speak about internal policies, politics, or whatever, but music? Nah. Tfw this guy is so stuck up he doesn't want foreigners listening to his country's music. Get a life pls. |
| In my eyes, you're generalizing. Although, I had this mentality back in middle school... There are thousands of hip-hop songs out there and to generalize all of them would be rather unwise. There definitely is a lot of low-effort and bad hip-hop songs. Tons of people want to be rappers because they think it's easy $$$ and because listening to rap is what's cool now, which causes terrible songs. That being said, there are also a lot of great hip-hop songs. Songs that have meaning and hard work put into them. Well-structured songs by talented artists. In my eyes, it is impossible to have an entirely bad genre. And if someone thinks that any genre is ALL bad, they are generalizing and need to open up their eyes to the fact that their opinion is NOT fact and that there is great music in every genre. It is okay to dislike hip-hop. Believe me, it's okay. That's coming from someone whose music is 90% metal and rock. Although you shouldn't generalize. Respectfully dislike. |
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| Hip hop (like other genres) has quite many subgenres beside gangsta rap and likewise has your typical basic party songs and songs to please masses. If rappers dropping word nigga while bragging about how many hoes they can get while cooking bothers you/makes you eye roll, but you still want to give it a chance you could just check rappers outside America. But yeah it divides opinions and it is understandable why it wouldn't suit some folks. Auron_ said: I like hip-hop but I also dislike it because my melanin levels don't allow me to sing along. So not up for karaoke huh |
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ThatRazorGuy said: Granted, there is a lot of shallow hip-hop out there. However, pretty much all genres have trite, cliched songs and artists. Lumping artists like Nas and Kendrick Lamar alongside the Lil Pumps and Soulja Boys of the world is not only reductive, but utterly foolish to be perfectly frank. soulja boy is better than both of em tbh crank that soulja |
| I dont think you've ever listened to hip hop in your life. |
| that's like saying why is every taylor swift song about boys breaking her heart. if you think all hip-hop is like that, go look up vinnie paz. there are hundreds more like him. stop thinking that some video with 100m views on youtube that is listened to by 14 yr olds is all there is to the genre. go look up smokepurpp trying to freestyle on some radio show (he humiliated himself). mainstream artists nowadays (for the most part) are all clowns (and not just figuratively). they're not rappers. |
| It's good? There's way too many different types of rap to just say it's one way or another. I don't get people who say they don't like rap music, it's like saying you hate pop. It's too broad to say something like that. |
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| big yikes. it's been a month since the original post, i hope the op has opened their mind a little bit to hip-hop. disliking hip-hop because 'you don't like 90s-00s gangster rap' is like disliking all music with a guitar in it because you don't like heavy metal. it's fine if you don't want to listen to hip-hop, but your opinion is not an informed one. |
| meditate on bass weight. |
| Using hip hop beats as BGM in YouTube videos should be illegal and punished by stoning to death. |
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| I grew up in the hood, I was pretty much forced to be primarily be heavily into rap and hip hop growing up because of it, aside my parents listening to dad rock (which just made me dislike dad rock for a long time). Even when I got into jpop and stuff more I still would primarily focus on black music. Nowadays I can't stand it aside some of my old favorites, but even those I tend to avoid. It's empty, vapid, and doesn't even sound good or "fun" as people keep using as the excuse for it being shit. There certainly are a lot of styles, a lot of different types of """artists""" in the genre and it's many sub-genres, but with a lifetime of experience with the mainstream through to the very very niche, I can say I absolutely despise almost all of it. The "smarter" rappers sound like idiots because they're only smart when appealing to uneducated types, they behave like they're philosophers yet the most they can do is say the most basic ideas in the most basic ways. They come off as obnoxious and often times preachy, but above all else, they are the most whiny of the bunch and I don't want to listen to a black complain and whine about how their life was bad because they're black instead of taking ownership of their own personal decisions leading them into the life they've had, which - I'll admit - has happened with very very very few rap artists in their lyrics but most of the time it's just the same tired wah wah racism shit with the "smart" ones and even those that do acknowledge it was their own fault still end up falling into lyrics about whining. And yes, MOST music is whining, but most music is whining in a way that isn't retarded or pushing that whining onto someone else's shoulders, often times being songs about accepting guilt and taking responsibility for what they did and why they are where they are. Perfect examples were already given in the thread, and I don't need to add anything to the guy's post either; kendrick lamar could be viewed as a conscious hip-hop artist that preaches his worldview based on his harsh background as a black man from compton, which torments him even to this day freddie gibbs and pusha t grew up in environments where they were forced to deal drugs to survive and managed to work their way up to a point where they don't have to sell dope to make money anymore This actually brings up another issue I have with the non racial slur slathered money money drugs gang gang blap blap bullshit; if they talk about their lives even aside the IM BLACK SO MY LIFE WAS BAD WAH shit, they still end up giving themselves credit where it isn't due. Nobody in human history has lived in an environment in a first world nation where they have been literally FORCED to deal drugs to survive. These are lazy subhumans who simply did not want to put in effort to be educated or get a job, they're the types who think "being a janitor is BENEATH me, FUCK DAT SHIET IMMA DEAL DEM DRUGZ CUZ MY COUSIN GOT DAT HOOKUP WIT DA GANG" and then view "sayin dem wurdz n shiet" into a mic as a "real career" or "playing sports" - which are real careers and yet they refuse anything less than them, rather than people who had no other choice. It's still avoidant of blame while then taking PRIDE in "getting out of that life selling dope" when they put themselves there in the first place because they were pieces of shit, you should take pride in making forward steps, not for standing back up after you lazily lay the fuck down. I grew up in the same hood as many big name rappers in the ghetto slum shitholes of Los Angeles, the only adversity that exists is blacks fucking other blacks lives up and the rampant laziness and "I deserve better so I won't do shit" attitude. Then you got the hip hop rather than the rap and it's sub-genres and just the rest of black music in general which all ends up being poorly made attempts at romantic songs and sub-par music for sex if you are banging someone that's black and will tolerate hearing it the whole time, I guess. Black music is something I hate for some, not all, not even most of the important reason, but a few of the same reasons i hate blacks, it's all just self flagellating retarded bullshit that almost always leans into whining somehow too no matter the goddamn theme whether it's the bullshit MUH GUNS MUH HUNNEDS or whining about their childhood and teenage years or ATTEMPTING some level of philosophical thought or even the rare ones who try to talk about avoiding black culture entirely or simply "about having fun", it still all comes off the same way. Pity me but also look at all my accomplishments like...getting a real job...uh...owning a car instead of leasing one to look rich like everyone else in my culture...uh...STOPPING selling drugs! Wow really amazing, now make a song about how you stopped raping kids and selling them as sex slaves, wow I'm so proud of you! SEVENTEEN THIRTY EIGHT BRRRAAPPP SKEET SKEET CUH BINNA FINNA AYYYYY WALK UP IN DAT SHIIET but den i was like ayo ayo ayo yall ayo ayo yall heard me ayo ey ey like she was on me ayo ayo she was on me like girl i love you baby ayyy ayyyy uh uh girl you know i love dat body girl i love dat girl you know ey uhh uh used ot be on dat corner slangin but now i up in da room we be sangin n baby yall be lookin gold tonight baby uh uh uh. I also hate how bass-heavy most of it is, but always without any meaning or thought behind it, just "other blacks do this so I will too" which sums up a lot of their thought process to all their music anyway. All the music is infantile and pathetic, over half of these fucks can't even speak English properly and claim it's a new language and not ebonics. If you want rap to be treated like poetry then actually say shit like a human being and not a retard. As for the reason it's listened to so heavily, the only reason this shit is even "popular" is because Jewish music producers and Jewish heads of all the industries involved in pushing music (marketing for any company, for example) are trying their usual games of destroying successful societies by producing nonstop degeneracy and stupidity, and black music perfectly pushes both of those things. Stupider people, more degenerate people, people with lower morals, no integrity, etc, are easier people to control. Black music is also extremely easy to create compared to other forms of music, which results in a great quantity rather than any quality, and in the realm of business making more of something shitty tends to result in greater income as long as you make people THINK it's good and when they control everything manipulating society's feelings on whats popular, and thus "good", or not is not that hard. Fuck black music, not just hip hop, and that includes non-blacks who rap. Except slavs. I love slavic rap. Now that's rap that sounds fucking good. Blacks should be angry too, they're just being used for money like little puppets and their masters think of them as mindless animals who are too stupid to do anything about it - same with the ones who play sports. |
TallonKarrde23Sep 11, 2020 3:13 AM
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| Most new Hip Hop is terrible and so is it's target demographic. I agree with most of what @TallonKarrde23 had to say. Too much whining about the hood that took them under while glorifying the gangsta lifestyle that makes their neighborhoods hellholes to begin with. Early rap/hip hip wasn't so bad. It was more fresh and less materialistic gangsta drivel. I always like The Message, it actually sends a good message and doesn't glorify terrible hood lifestyles. You can't get more legit than some of the lines from this song: Grandmaster said: Turned stickup kid, look what you done did Got send up for a eight year bid Now your manhood is took and you're a may tag Spend the next two years as an undercover fag Being used and abused and served like hell Till one day you was found hung dead in a cell Here is some Spanish industrial to offset any crappy hip hip in this thread. |
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| it's all about the B boy stance, true hip hop. and of course the soul crush crew |
MegatronsmurfSep 11, 2020 9:01 AM
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| HiP HoP is OnLy AbOuT DrUgS aNd BiTcHeS, says the kpop pfp. yeah okay bro. Mumble rap and trap is about that, but haters love lumping all of Hip Hop together. I used to list some talented musical rappers I listened to on threads like this, but I realized that ya'll don't care lol. I love how polarizing this topic is specifically in the anime community. |
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