Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
Prog_upworks13 said: you know it's not canon right ?? We will get an OVA for that if they really want to include that. Ah, I was under the impression it was canon because the version of the WN I'm reading puts this part right inbetween Emilia's "Who's Rem?" line and the cut to Rem's perspective. (As part of the arc 3 Interludes). If it's not canon then I'm happy they gave it some attention at least. |
Pernodi said: Prog_upworks13 said: you know it's not canon right ?? We will get an OVA for that if they really want to include that. Ah, I was under the impression it was canon because the version of the WN I'm reading puts this part right inbetween Emilia's "Who's Rem?" line and the cut to Rem's perspective. (As part of the arc 3 Interludes). If it's not canon then I'm happy they gave it some attention at least. also please remind, its from light novel not web novel. |
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Prog_upworks13 said: Pernodi said: I can't believe they cut those 10 pages from the WN that detail Rem's fantasies about running away and starting a family with Subaru. Instead we get exactly 3 barely visible frames. The director must really, really hate Rem. you know it's not canon right ?? We will get an OVA for that if they really want to include that. It's not canon because the story is from an alternate timeline in which Rem decided to elope with Subaru. The story basically diverges from ep. 18 of S1 and pretty much everyone else is dead. Although there is an apparent "happy ending" for Rem, it's actually tragic from the story perspective. They won't adapt it in the anime. Maybe an OVA in the future could work, but I wouldn't hold my breath. |
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Prog_upworks13 said: Pernodi said: I can't believe they cut those 10 pages from the WN that detail Rem's fantasies about running away and starting a family with Subaru. Instead we get exactly 3 barely visible frames. The director must really, really hate Rem. you know it's not canon right ?? We will get an OVA for that if they really want to include that. The IF story series are cannon just different possibilitys. IF Subuaru would make different choices downt he road. We just follow "our Subaru" from the story perspective. |
| I moved the discussion to another thread as it seems to be a more appropriate one. Changing topic a bit. Has it been revealed in the later arcs (I'm currently near the end of arc 5 (only one volume left)) who the hell is Otto ? Why there is nothing about him That was the biggest WTF moment when I was reading arc 4 and is still bugging me. |
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mozgow said: Changing topic a bit. Has it been revealed in the later arcs (I'm currently near the end of arc 5 (only one volume left)) who the hell is Otto ? Nope. I'm not sure if that's supposed to even be important or not. |
Saku_k said: I think it's important.mozgow said: Changing topic a bit. Has it been revealed in the later arcs (I'm currently near the end of arc 5 (only one volume left)) who the hell is Otto ? Nope. I'm not sure if that's supposed to even be important or not. |
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@BexoCat Thx! That was an interesting read. |
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| @ManhDang94 I agree. I will check later with the LN but I think they didn't omit any important details. And, as I've posted in the discussion thread for the episode, I love the amount of spoilers they've put into the OP animation ;) |
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ManhDang94 said: mozgow said: @ManhDang94 I agree. I will check later with the LN but I think they didn't omit any important details. And, as I've posted in the discussion thread for the episode, I love the amount of spoilers they've put into the OP animation ;) Me either, love the OP! They cut things but they did in a good way. Something like Subaru sat next Rem's bed and talking for a while is redundant for me. They did good Same here for the OP. It was probably the best possible OP they could pull off in terms of content, although I'm still not the biggest fan of the music. Let's hope anime only don't look too deeply into the OP just yet and do that later though. Also what was written in the last few seconds also gave a nice touch to the overall picture: |
Re:Zero nice troll ending.  |
Mad_Scientist9 said: Episode 1 adapted the epilogue from volume 9. Without any spoilers can anyone let me know, how much content from the novels was adapted in these two episodes. Episode 2 adapted ~1.5 chapters from volume 10. |
mozgowJul 15, 2020 10:42 AM
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Pernodi said: I can't believe they cut those 10 pages from the WN that detail Rem's fantasies about running away and starting a family with Subaru. Instead we get exactly 3 barely visible frames. The director must really, really hate Rem. It hasn't been cut, it's just not part of the main series. In the WN, IF stories are equivalent of OVAs as they show what would happen if Subaru had made different choices at certain moments. We're lucky that three frames were put into the main series. Now it would make a lot of sense to put this into an OVA or special episode. |
Mad_Scientist9 said: Without any spoilers can anyone let me know, how much content from the novels was adapted in these two episodes. Four to six chapters, I believe |
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QcDiablo said: It hasn't been cut, it's just not part of the main series. In the WN, IF stories are equivalent of OVAs as they show what would happen if Subaru had made different choices at certain moments. We're lucky that three frames were put into the main series. Now it would make a lot of sense to put this into an OVA or special episode. This might be a mistake on the translators' part, but in the version I'm reading it's part of the arc III interludes, which are canon to the LN. |
| As mozgow said, a bit less than 1 1/2 of 5 chapters (volume 10) in episode 2 (and the leftovers of volume 9 in EP1). As for the WN for those who are interested, around 9 chapters. Although they altered the beginning quite a bit compared to the LN (and subsequently for the anime). |
Re:Zero nice troll ending. |
rakp333 said: Its not the interlude but "Fragments". It is just a tease for (fragments from) the sloth-IF (Rem-IF) side story. It's not canon to the main storyline. I see, that explains it. |
Pernodi said: QcDiablo said: It hasn't been cut, it's just not part of the main series. In the WN, IF stories are equivalent of OVAs as they show what would happen if Subaru had made different choices at certain moments. We're lucky that three frames were put into the main series. Now it would make a lot of sense to put this into an OVA or special episode. This might be a mistake on the translators' part, but in the version I'm reading it's part of the arc III interludes, which are canon to the LN. Side stories are different from the If Stories. The If stories each feature branches in the main story where Subaru could have chosen a different approach, e.g. running away or killing people. Because of their nature, they are not considered canon as it would be very inconsistent with his behavior after Return by Death triggers again (provided it does). One of these side stories is Subaru running away with Rem, others include him striking back in arc 2 instead of taking the maids head on. These are the available IF stories for now: 1. Ayamatsu/Pride IF which branches in arc 1 2. Oboreru/Wrath IF which branches in arc 2 3. Ram/Sloth IF which branches in arc 3 4. Kasaneru/Greed IF which branches in arc 4 5. Tsugihagu/Gluttony IF which branches in arc 6 6. Butterfly's Dream/Lust IF which was deleted by the author Tappei wrote these IF stories on April Fools, so you get the basic idea for which purpose they were written. |
Bernkishi07Jul 15, 2020 2:10 PM
Re:Zero nice troll ending. |
Bernkishi07 said: Tappei wrote these IF stories on April Fools, so you get the basic idea for which purpose they were written. They're meant to be published on Subaru's birthday, which so happens to be April Fools. To add more context as well, Lust IF really was a troll since the author deleted it. It's meant to be a bad harem story and isn't considered the same as the other, much more serious, IF stories. It was made before the author thought of making the actual IF stories, and thus doesn't have a proper plot like the other ones. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I'd love if there would be true explanations on the inconstencies of the IF stories someday though, I think they give a lot of world building and I find some of them very well written (especially liked Kasaneru personally). |
| So I was re-reading arc 4 chapter 79 of the web novel.. |
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That is simple cause "It" is out of controle & is no longer able to stop. Which is why Subaru has to do it. well either that or Subaru will be able to truly time travel/jump worldlines to fix the main cause back 400 years ago. |
bruh I.....I don't feel good after reading this....I guess we will see this soon on screen but god this is so sad ooof :(( |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
| I liked episode two. I won't say anything more for now. |
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| After episode 3, I don't have confidence in White Fox in terms of adapting material for this season. They've been all over the place this season with some stuff feeling really rushed with content skimmed through for adapting, some timings of jokes completely missing, some scenes underdelivering due to pacing, etc. It's just been awkwardly handled as a whole compared to season 1. I don't even like the season 1 portion but White Fox didn't have much of these issues, and if they cut some stuff out, nothing felt awkward about how they have been adapting the series. But this season has been a struggle due to how heavy the content can be compared to the previous arcs, and it's not been promising. Hopefully they can recover the material and adaptation somewhat in upcoming episodes. I think Arc 1-3 was poor but Arc 4 was solid in the LNs and I hope the anime can at least make this arc look fine enough. |
animejas said: After episode 3, I don't have confidence in White Fox in terms of adapting material for this season. They've been all over the place this season with some stuff feeling really rushed with content skimmed through for adapting, some timings of jokes completely missing, some scenes underdelivering due to pacing, etc. It's just been awkwardly handled as a whole compared to season 1. I don't even like the season 1 portion but White Fox didn't have much of these issues, and if they cut some stuff out, nothing felt awkward about how they have been adapting the series. But this season has been a struggle due to how heavy the content can be compared to the previous arcs, and it's not been promising. Hopefully they can recover the material and adaptation somewhat in upcoming episodes. I think Arc 1-3 was poor but Arc 4 was solid in the LNs and I hope the anime can at least make this arc look fine enough. Not sure what exactly you on about. Season 1 barely skipped any content. Aka almost none besides stuff like Al & Satellas whispers. So far the paceing is a thing because the LightNovel compared to the WebNovel changed the order of events aka in the LN things happens way faster/sooner than in the WN where Subaru has way more loops to get any new information aka much slower progess. |
MonoReaper said: animejas said: After episode 3, I don't have confidence in White Fox in terms of adapting material for this season. They've been all over the place this season with some stuff feeling really rushed with content skimmed through for adapting, some timings of jokes completely missing, some scenes underdelivering due to pacing, etc. It's just been awkwardly handled as a whole compared to season 1. I don't even like the season 1 portion but White Fox didn't have much of these issues, and if they cut some stuff out, nothing felt awkward about how they have been adapting the series. But this season has been a struggle due to how heavy the content can be compared to the previous arcs, and it's not been promising. Hopefully they can recover the material and adaptation somewhat in upcoming episodes. I think Arc 1-3 was poor but Arc 4 was solid in the LNs and I hope the anime can at least make this arc look fine enough. Not sure what exactly you on about. Season 1 barely skipped any content. Aka almost none besides stuff like Al & Satellas whispers. So far the paceing is a thing because the LightNovel compared to the WebNovel changed the order of events aka in the LN things happens way faster/sooner than in the WN where Subaru has way more loops to get any new information aka much slower progess. I've read the light novels, not the web novels (except the portion of Arc 4 that isn't in LN form yet with translations) and even there I know they changed some details from the web novels. But here with the anime, it just felt way too fast here, the light novel never gave me that feeling whatsoever. Season 1 skipped minor stuff but nothing that really impacted the story that much. |
| no op ed , episode is around 25 minutes, White fox really trying hard to give a perfect adaptation, Well I hope they can handle next week episode. One of my most favorite moment from web novel |
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animejas said: MonoReaper said: Not sure what exactly you on about. Season 1 barely skipped any content. Aka almost none besides stuff like Al & Satellas whispers. So far the paceing is a thing because the LightNovel compared to the WebNovel changed the order of events aka in the LN things happens way faster/sooner than in the WN where Subaru has way more loops to get any new information aka much slower progess. I've read the light novels, not the web novels (except the portion of Arc 4 that isn't in LN form yet with translations) and even there I know they changed some details from the web novels. But here with the anime, it just felt way too fast here, the light novel never gave me that feeling whatsoever. Season 1 skipped minor stuff but nothing that really impacted the story that much. Thats kinda a side effect of reading. Aka with books/novels we take out own time reading the story and the pace is way different. While movies/series can adapt scenes way faster than the scenario we imagine in our head while reading. I experienced that effect many times aka how scenes & dialog moved way faster/finished. |
| Following the "3rd episode rule", more 6k users already rated this season (from 25k last week to 31k) and now the score dropped from 8.5 to 8.43. Compared to the begining of the 1st season, surely this start of Arc 4 is a lot more boring. Just in the 1st episode of the series, Subaru was killed 3 times. At the mansion, he was also killed in the 1st episode of the arc. In the 3rd Arc, the beginning in the capital and royal stuff was IMO the worst part of all the series so far, the most cringey and awkward. But luckily it was in stuffed in the middle of the series. I didn't spoiled myself further than what will be the 5th episode of this season. Let's see if the sudden change of atmosphere will impact the audience. |
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Rob7 said: Majority of mal users want a more despair for Subaru. We already know that since s1 episode 15 4 years ago.Following the "3rd episode rule", more 6k users already rated this season (from 25k last week to 31k) and now the score dropped from 8.5 to 8.43. Compared to the begining of the 1st season, surely this start of Arc 4 is a lot more boring. Just in the 1st episode of the series, Subaru was killed 3 times. At the mansion, he was also killed in the 1st episode of the arc. In the 3rd Arc, the beginning in the capital and royal stuff was IMO the worst part of all the series so far, the most cringey and awkward. But luckily it was in stuffed in the middle of the series. I didn't spoiled myself further than what will be the 5th episode of this season. Let's see if the sudden change of atmosphere will impact the audience. |
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