Kimetsu no Yaiba Chapter 202 Discussion

SemIdeiaPraNome said:


Can't tell if this is a ironic troll comment or if is actually serious, your username is confusing me.

Xenocrisi said:
We got too cocky Kanaobros... we thought the Tanjirobowl was ours...

SemIdeiaPraNome said:


Why are people not realizing that this is just Muzan's last stand like Akaza and Kokushibo had?

AntiOverratted said:
You can see the bullshit clearly in chapter 202. From a series of solo swords with firewood and dancing demons, what do we have now? - energy ball and kagune, adding scene of bursting power like DB's? While Muzan has nothing but tentacles, one can only receive a small portion, both turning into a demon and not eating human flesh, not training and developing strength or anything else that has acquired magical power. The series was completely off course when the Hamon of the Sun and the Thirteenth Formula were considered to be the strongest skills that only served as a foundation for poison and light. So nonsense. Is it that the author is so secretive that he has to borrow the skills of other works and buff in such bullshit? Anyway, KNY became a broken bomb to me when I had too much expectations of it.

nanashi796 said:
douma can create ice,nakime can create a dimension,others can create lightning,and muzan used the same technique,wtf are you talking about.

AntiOverratted said:

Are you kidding me? The whole battle of Muzan was just flipping tentacles, near the end of the game, but his mouths were useless

AntiOverratted said:

Are you kidding me? The whole battle of Muzan was just flipping tentacles, near the end of the game, but his mouths were useless

nanashi796 said:
he used that lightning technique that paralyzed tanjiro and obanai,he use his mouths as air suction to attract people and impedes their movements,he create blades with his spine,and at the beginning of this arc he used even spiked wires.

deg said:


Muzan cannot use anymore blood demon techniques ever since he was injected by the serum that made him rapidly weak and old

AntiOverratted said:

The poison harmed Muzan's body and prevented him from separating, not making him unable to use other skills, but it took a long time to work. I don't need Muzan to be like Madara or Aizen, but at least see the greatness of a final boss, instead we see a mediocre villain. And as I said, with KNY's range of power, the ability of that orb was really ridiculous

deg said:


read chapter 197 then

here is the page about it

AntiOverratted said:
Whatever, Muzan is a mere villain of the power of poor thinking, which is indisputable.

nanashi796 said:
he used that lightning technique that paralyzed tanjiro and obanai,he use his mouths as air suction to attract people and impedes their movements,he create blades with his spine,and at the beginning of this arc he used even spiked wires.

SemIdeiaPraNome said:
Nobody complained about , why are people still complaining about Tamayo's drugs?

nanashi796 said:
still there wasn't any foreshadowing about the poison in the rose bomb,tamayo examined muzan blood since the beginning of the manga,she saw what muzan is capable of in the flashback with yoriichi vs muzan,she just made a medicine that counterattack his regeneration and escaping trick,you really think that after that she didn't made anything about muzan,it would be bullshit and stupid if she didn't do anything,the poisons made the fight more believable and realistic,without that it would have been impossible to beat muzan.
idk this fight is the best fight i've read in a battle shonen for me,everything is balanced,the pacing is great,the tension is great,many people sacrificed themselves,ubuyashiki sacrificed half of his family to corner muzan,tamayo died to inject him his poison,the fact that there was a time limit and everyone even the weakest demon slayer helped even for a second to stop muzan,pillars lasted till the end even when they were basically dead to see muzan die,this fight is so great for me.
i don't understand people that judge a fight only with how cool the techniques are,muzan isn't a fighter like akaza nor a samurai like kokushibo,he is a moster,and probably he never had a fight in all his life except his fight against yoriichi and he never even used blood demons arts,he just used the most effective form he could think in that situation where he was 10vs1 and adapt to it as the fight progressed.

MASTERLYNX said:
you're sort of right but I don't think that the toxic nature of an atomic bomb needs to be foreshadowed as it is common knowledge. Also you're right Muzan is not a fighter but I do not judge fights by How cool the techniques are, I just think that the fight is heavily dragged out and doesn't live up to what it was supposed to be because even though Muzan isn't a fighter I still think he should have been much stronger and unique because just flailing his tentacles was boring, most demons aren't fighters but they still had cool abilities like nezuko, rui and kyogai. Instead of the poisons(which even though they studied Muzan’s blood for a long time) That felt cheap the author could just have the hunters beat him by holding him off until sunset in other ways or maybe go with the regular shounen route and let tanjiro become stronger and beat him using the sun breathing like I personally felt it was supposed to go I just feel like all of tanjiro’s improvement and learning the sun breathing was for nothing as it wasn't used that much in the fight even though it was hyped up to be the only way to defeat muzan, and I understand that it was used but it wasn't highlighted enough and even when it was used I was disappointed because from the beginning tanjiro’s improvement was absurd and stupid and he just got new attacks from no where... obviously this is just my opinion and while I can't really see where you're coming from I would love to hear your opinion.

Trvnsform said:

But Tanjiro’s breath of the sun was for him to constantly use forms until the sun rises. Without Tanjiro, who stalled time, Muzan would have gotten away. The fact that Tanjiro connected the 12 forms which countered Muzan and stalled him until the sun rised (with the help of the pillars), it was extremely effective.

MASTERLYNX said:
yes it was useful but I feel like it didn't get the spotlight it deserved for how useful it was and also as I said I really dislike the fire God dance and the sun breathing because I felt like tanjiro did nothing to get it.

Trvnsform said:

Breath of the sun wasn’t a form that could kill Muzan or weaken him completely, it was just a dance that could counter Muzan’s movements until daylight. Also, Tanjiro did many things to get better with breath of the sun (he didn’t master it, said by Muzan). He used breath of the sun since the maintain arc and it took him a lot of time, hard work, and understanding for his body to get use to the dance’s movements.

MASTERLYNX said:
he worked to get better but he got the power out of no where and breath of the sun was definitely said to be the strongest breath and said to have beat Muzan when used by yoriichi so there is no reason why tanjiro couldn't straight up kill him if he trained more. And every breath style can kill Muzan it depends on how strong the swordsman is so saying that the breath of the sun isn't a form that could kill Muzan is wrong.

Gorochu said:
Nooo,Kanao chan. I have forget some detail,can someone fill me in why sun does not work on Tanjiro?

Gorochu said:
Nooo,Kanao chan. I have forget some detail,can someone fill me in why sun does not work on Tanjiro?

MASTERLYNX said:
he worked to get better but he got the power out of no where and breath of the sun was definitely said to be the strongest breath and said to have beat Muzan when used by yoriichi so there is no reason why tanjiro couldn't straight up kill him if he trained more. And every breath style can kill Muzan it depends on how strong the swordsman is so saying that the breath of the sun isn't a form that could kill Muzan is wrong.

AntiOverratted said:

Yes, but the Breath of the Sun does not show the difference and the most important in the fight with Muzan compared to the flattery about it, instead we only see one Breath like the other used by the Pillars. And instead of fighting against demons with the power of swordsmanship, the Breaths would just serve as a background and buy time for that magical multi-purpose drug and so forth would seem the same, along with the familiar flashback. So personally, I feel that Muzan's battle is a joke and breaks the work's principles of fighting.

Trvnsform said:

For one your misunderstanding, breath of the sun can be a factor why Muzan can die, but it’s because of the sun. Back then, Muzan might’ve died since i’m not too sure, but now Muzan can only die from the sun. Are we reading the same manga? Because like time I checked, a breath can’t kill him, cutting Muzan’s neck won’t work. Just because Tanjiro used breath of the sun, that doesn’t mean that he should automatically be able to kill him. Also, Muzan was able to overcome his neck weakness, so it didn’t matter if they were able to cut his necks since it would just be healed. But they constantly cut him up to stall time until the sun came out. Just because you use a breath that doesn’t mean it will kill him, it might be the reason or factor since Muzan has conquered his neck weakness. For the tanjiro thing, just because he could use breath of the sun, that doesn’t mean you master it. That’s like playing basketball and you learn a few moves, you didn’t master it. You just learned how to use it a decent level, but you can still improve its form and speed. Just because Tanjiro trained a lot that doesn’t mean he’d automatically surpass Yoriichi, Yoriichi was the strongest samurai and was born with a lot of talent to fight the demons.

MASTERLYNX said:
the breath of the sun was most definitely meant to kill Muzan if you read the fight between Yoriichi and Muzan you'll see that even then he couldn't be killed by cutting his neck but when Yoriichi understood that he completed the breath of the sun and cut Muzan in a way that didn't allow him to regenerate. The fight is in ch. 187.