| im for it since it gives me the satisfying etika vids of him reading it |
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| i have a mixed opinion about it hm, a part of me says it's inhumane and barbaric but other part of me says it's justified in some cases, i mean some monsters deserve it i think it should be used on terrorists or other people who committed extremely big crimes |
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| I support death penalty. They deserved it. If 'x person' intentionally kill another person, he/she must die. Of course, this only happens if the case is very clear and there's evidence to avoid a wrongful execution. By killing him/her, you avoid their release or escape and from killing another innocent. In my country, thieves kill innocent people but the justice and so called human rights organizations protect them. |
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Linerax said: If the death penalty will stay, then I urge the justice system to use nitrogen gas for gas asphyxiation. Saves taxpayer money and is a less complicated method. This would be best method because a person can be saved more easily if process is stopped I would think. Painless too. I doubt it's cost effective though. It would likely require a gas chamber not just a mask. Grape_Panta said: I support it. Honestly, I´m sick of those criminals thinking they can have their way with our lives. Raping, killing, stealing. The prisons are overflowing and their system is ridiculous. More and more prisons are built instead of schools. What for? It won´t solve the problem at all. At least the pedos, rapists and killers must be eliminated at once. However....... The Brazilian laws are too weak. Then I doubt it would work properly... Argh, this is frustrating. Prisons are overflowing because stupid laws making mundane harmless things illegal not because not enough prisoners are murdered. |
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| Against it. Why kill when we can make the bastard contribute to society. Either way he should repay from his action. Killing them would be a waste. Unless the offender ask to be executed then that would be a different case. |
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| I wrote a whole page on why i am against it during a sociology test but i am too lazy to re explain why |
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| I support it depending on the circumstance it was used. Some people are insanely evil and even after being charged and arrested show absolute 0 regret for the atrocities they've committed. The way I view the death penalty is a measure only reserved for people who really are too wicked to stay alive, prison or otherwise. Not as a "Oh they are so bad and did so and so things they deserve to die" but as a reassurance if they do somehow escape prison or the legal systems somehow think it's a good idea to let them back on the street etc. That being said, if someone has seriously shown regret and grief and acknowledges the things they've done (whether they be mentally ill or truly regretful) they should get the right to live and stay in prison no matter how bad the acts they've committed. |
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Grape_Panta said: At least in America, prisons are built so they can lock up black people for simple possession of marijuana.The prisons are overflowing and their system is ridiculous. More and more prisons are built instead of schools. What for? |
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| I'm for it in specific cases. Mass/Serial killers for example. I also tend to believe we should be castrating any and all people who prey on children. |
| It should only be used for the scum of the earth really. While giving death upon someone isn't exactly nice, if their actions warranted it, then they deserve it. |
| It sounds cruel, but you'd be surprised how those really bad people like drug dealer can get away with it using money. Not sure how other country works though. |
traed said: Linerax said: If the death penalty will stay, then I urge the justice system to use nitrogen gas for gas asphyxiation. Saves taxpayer money and is a less complicated method. This would be best method because a person can be saved more easily if process is stopped I would think. Painless too. I doubt it's cost effective though. It would likely require a gas chamber not just a mask. Grape_Panta said: I support it. Honestly, I´m sick of those criminals thinking they can have their way with our lives. Raping, killing, stealing. The prisons are overflowing and their system is ridiculous. More and more prisons are built instead of schools. What for? It won´t solve the problem at all. At least the pedos, rapists and killers must be eliminated at once. However....... The Brazilian laws are too weak. Then I doubt it would work properly... Argh, this is frustrating. Prisons are overflowing because stupid laws making mundane harmless things illegal not because not enough prisoners are murdered. I was thinking about the Sarco Capsule. The designs are supposedly open source in the future. No need a gas chamber; just replace the bed with restraining belts with the Capsule. https://www.dailywire.com/news/23822/sarco-capsule-check-out-state-art-suicide-machine-paul-bois |
YaoiMaster said: I am against the death penalty, as it seems an illogical practice. "You've killed someone, now you must be killed to compensate." Interestingly enough, I just read a book written in 73 by the lawyer who outlawed death penalty in 82 in France. The book is about the first affair where he lost a client to the guillotine. His client is one of two inmates who tried to escape a high security prison by taking hostage a nurse and a guard, and when the police assaulted the building, the two hostages were found dead. The whole book revolves around proving that his client didn't do the killing, and he succeeds in the end. The jury declares that his client didn't do the killing, BUT They still sentence him to death. Pretty good book, full of thoughts about what justice is, what a lawyer's job is, etc. The execution, by Robert Badinter. BokoHaramSenpai said: but how much cheaper would prisons be to run if there were no violent offenders? not to mention how much more effective they would be for rehabilitation purposes if inmates didn't have to join gangs for protection, and the savings from stopping repeat offences. those studies never even considered that to be an option. i want to see the study that weighs the costs when its assumed all violent offenders/drug pushers get executed. Well, we should get all the criminals out of jail and put grannies in there instead, they're much less likely to "join gangs" and "repeat offences" Expecting to have happy-nice prisons AND saving funds at the same time seems kinda... optimistic, borderline delusional. You pay for what you get, and if you don't wanna pay much for them, then you get shit prisons. |
DeathkoSep 24, 2018 2:53 AM
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| It's just murder. There is no sensible justification for it. It doesn't deter or protect any better than prison, (and isn't even cheaper in practice,) it obviously doesn't rehabilitate at all, and acts of retribution are acts of evil. The only reason for doing it is murderousness. Even if you might think somebody deserves death, that doesn't give anyone the right to kill them. |
Aynyan said: They didn't.Iraq, Pakistan, China, Iran and Saudi Arabia are doing it a lot, they didn't get much result, did they? --- Death penalty is mostly a matter of morals. In terms of utilitarianism, it only has negative effects >It doesn't decrease criminality. >It is expensive. |
| Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
| I think it needs to be reformed and only particularly heinous criminals, like terrorists and serial killers should be executed, but only after several criteria have been met to make sure they are not innocent. |
| I think it's evil. Not much more to say about it. |
| Death seems like an easy escape. Torture > death penalty. |
| Unacceptable. That is all I have to say. |
| I say for. If put in prison, they'll just harm/kill other prisoners and guards. Or they can escape and kill more innocents. And there is no such thing as "life" in prison when you can easily be pardoned or get furlough, only to kill more people. That too has happened before. Death penalty is a deterrent in that it permanently prevents a known murderer from killing again. A life sentence does not. |
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| I don't support the death penalty. Humans shouldn't get to decide fate. |
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Cappuccinooo said: Also may I ask, how do you teach someone that killing is morally wrong by killing them? This is essentially it, except that it's not really about teaching people, since some people are hopeless cases (not all of them tho, and certainly a very tiny portion if they were not thrown in a tiny cell with 3-4 hardened criminal inmates, or an ISIS preacher, like it often happens here) But basically, justice isn't vengeance and the distinction is important, especially in this day where informations go very fast and people are whiny crybabies who need to react so fast they kinda forget to take the time to think before posting. This is a reminder that people will get death threats for stuff like mistreating an animal (not nice, but we all remember the Facebook witchhunt against that brit lady who got filmed putting a stray cat in a bin...), partying too loudly at night, or making two fictional characters fall in love in a manga (*coughs* Tokyo Ghoul). Justice needs to be outside of the emotional sphere to be efficient for society. Depassionating the punishment and giving the criminal an advocate allows him to be judged and punished while still being part of society, and not as some outcast. |
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| Death penalty should not even be considered in the first place, because you're allowing the state to have control over the most important possession of anyone, the human life. Law is not against revenge, retribution of the sake of retribution is more harmful than helpful. |
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| Only if the criminal gets brutally tortured before his death |
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| I'm against the death penalty, for the fact that the judicial system is not perfect. Mistakes are made, and innocent people are convicted. In fact, a study published by the National Academy of Sciences determined that 4% of people on death row were, or are likely innocent. That's a chance I'm not willing to accept. |
| Kill them all, let God sort them out. |
| Mentally disturbed serial killers (Jeffrey Dahmer for example, as some people have pointed out) should be killed. They will never reform and will never contribute to a better society, killing them makes it safer for everyone. Otherwise... it depends. |
| I'm for it. A criminal who is very bad should just be rid of instead of wasting tax money on them. |
| So far, no one in this thread has been able to justify killing a criminal. It's summarized in this excellent post: logopolis said: It's just murder. There is no sensible justification for it. It doesn't deter or protect any better than prison, (and isn't even cheaper in practice,) it obviously doesn't rehabilitate at all, and acts of retribution are acts of evil. The only reason for doing it is murderousness. Even if you might think somebody deserves death, that doesn't give anyone the right to kill them. MeiliXochitl said: I'm for it. A criminal who is very bad should just be rid of instead of wasting tax money on them. Your argument falls apart when you take even a few seconds to Google this. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty https://deathpenalty.org/facts/5-myths-death-penalty/ Studies of the California death penalty system, the largest in the US, have revealed that a death sentence costs at least 18 times as much as a sentence of life without parole would cost. |
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| I've always supported the death penalty. Back in my school days, we used to have debates where we brought some important questions up and then two teams would debate about it in front of the other classmates. Whenever the question about the death penalty was brought up, I volunteered to be on the team that debated for the death penalty because I believe serial killers who intentionally murder innocent people - especially if the victims are children - should no longer be considered as humans and have lost their right to live (Doesn't have to be literally. The definition of 'losing their life' could also be seen as losing their freedom by getting sent to prision for life without parole). The death penalty should also be an option as a punishment for other extreme criminals, such as those who rape children. Regardless if these criminals get locked up in jail for the rest of their lives or sentenced to death, they should most definitely be removed from the public. To keep my answer short; Yes, I do think the court should have the option to give a 'demon' the death penalty. |
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| It kinda depends on the crime the person commited. If it's a just something like armed burglary then okay a life sentence. If it's something like going on a killing spree on many innocent ppl like he playing a game of GTA Death penalty should be necessary cause that when you can't consider that person to live his life in prison. |
GalacticMagnaOct 4, 2018 7:42 PM
| its hypocritical your trying to prove killing is wrong by killing |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
GalacticMagna said: It kinda depends on the crime the person commited. If it's a just something like armed burglary then okay a life sentence. If it's something like going on a killing spree on many innocent ppl like he playing a game of GTA Death penalty should be necessary cause that when you can't consider that person to live his life in prison. Um...no. The penalty for armed robbery is a prison sentence of 5-20 years, depending on circumstances. And yet again, no one has been able to provide justification for killing another human being. Exactly! |
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| I think the death penalty is justice when the crime committed destroys lives. In fact in many cases the death penalty seems very little thing. Kira is right  |
_Nemrod_Nov 11, 2018 3:28 PM
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_Nemrod_ said: Only if you're married to the idea of revenge as justice. Killing an inmate provides absolutely no benefit to society, so I don't see how that's justice.I think the death penalty is justice when the crime committed destroys lives. In fact in many cases the death penalty seems very little thing. |
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katsucats said: _Nemrod_ said: Only if you're married to the idea of revenge as justice. Killing an inmate provides absolutely no benefit to society, so I don't see how that's justice.I think the death penalty is justice when the crime committed destroys lives. In fact in many cases the death penalty seems very little thing. hahahaha Yes, I'm married to revenge and that's why I tend to see it as justice when the line that separates them is very thin. However, that does not change the fact that certain crimes are worthy of death. What you seem to see as justice, in reality, is mercy. The first one is the obligation of civil society while the second one is the obligation of Christians. I am not a Christian. |
_Nemrod_Nov 10, 2018 9:32 PM
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| @_Nemrod_ to prove the action of a person who kills often out of revenge/justice is wrong. you kill them out of justice/revenge. you only justifying there argument and putting the criminal in the right. thus it makes you no better then the person you put to death. that line of eye for an eye is what lead to some of the worst global conflicts in history. not to mention most heinous killers don't give a rats ass if you kill them. why would they? your proving them right and that there actions were right. you basically make a martyr out of every mass murder by putting them to death. |
GrimAtramentNov 10, 2018 9:36 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Sophielight said: The death penalty is a Pandoras box that should never be opened. Look at the USA, one of the last civilized countries that has the death penalty. People are exonerated all the time because cops coerce confessions, witnesses lie, and DNA testing frees many. Humans are far too flawed to say our legal systems will ever be good enough to justify killing people. On top of all of the moral reasons for not having the death penalty, every study done shows that it is NOT a deterrent for crime. not to mention when it turns out woops we killed the wrong person the family of the victim only gets money in return. money can bring people back form the dead. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| good for murderers when you have hard evidence of guilt kill him the day after the trial so there's no money wasted and it's all good |
| i'm for it, would just hate to be wrongly executed though |
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