Warning This isn't a subject for everyone. I do not want to deal with little remarks that only create tension than actually contribute to the conversation. I don't want to see people belittling or dismissing someone's opinion based off their MAL listing. I don't want to deal with people changing the topic to something irrelevant. I won't address it or respond to comments that I feel aren't worth my time. Feel free to disagree or agree, but be civil and respectful when approaching others here. I do not intend to disrespect anyone, so tell me if anything I say rubs anyone the wrong way from my OP to a reply here. Communicate with me and I'll try to communicate with you. P.S. I am annoyed today because of a person who works with me was accusing and belittling me, which made me feel extremely disrespected and uncomfortable. It has affected me mentally, but I'm not saying I'm taking my frustration out on anyone here. It bothered me to where it can distract me or affect my behavior a bit. As if someone disrespects me here and does something similiar then it could annoy me extremely. The "issue" with hentai I met someone on the internet who used to be a friend of mine. He had an issue with cartoon pornography and harshly judged anyone who liked it and made it a problem that no one personally cared. I posted something about how liking Lolis doesn't necessarily mean you're a pedophile. I honestly felt the way I did due to the amount of things that people could like that has nothing to do with being sexually attracted to minors (Real Kids). A guy came and disagreed and I was fine with him disagreeing as I thought, "Hey, you may have your own reasons for thinking the way you do." He treated me like a retard and made it seem that my stance was ridiculous. I tagged the guy who I referred to being a former friend of mines and he said, "You're already losing the arugment." Despite his attitude and maybe this was me expecting too much from him, I didn't expect him to be so pompous and immature about the whole thing. I was "making excuses" for pedophiles according to him by saying that they have their own reasons for thinking the way they do. Not saying that pedophilia is good or ethical by my own standards, but I was saying that people simply have different view points than him and that morality is a subjective concept. He treated his view point as the objective philosophy and I only stated that he has his reasons for why he thinks it's wrong while the others have reasons why they think it's ok. Basically, telling him that it's an opinion and a position he holds. I get implied that I'm sick because I look from another perspective instead of being closed-minded about the whole thing. He wants it to become illegal everywhere and I thought this was SJW-Like and felt he was getting triggered due to people indulging in Loli Porn and I personally think it's harmless. He was the one sharing it and making everyone see it. How ironic. The Topic? Well, I don't want to make this too long as people may stop reading. I think that people can like Loli Porn for many possible reasons. I don't dismiss one reason being because they're sexually attracted to minors, but I keep in mind many other reasons. I keep the aesthetic being a possible reason and just frankly context of the character in question. A character can be older while looking young. Some people perceive things diferently. I even questioned what exactly pedophilia is. Is it...very young kids or does it include teenagers? Anyway, I don't think Loli Porn should be outlawed because in my opinion it is harmless. It's just some people find it disgusting because they perceive a child-like character being sexualize in someway and find that extremely uncomfortable. I personally am not interested in Loli's nor do I really watch Hentai. It's not something that I prefer or indulge myself consuming. The irony is how I'm kind of like people who are weirded out by it as when watching "No Game No Life" I hated how they kept flashing Shiro's panties or did something sexual with her. I wasn't a fan of that honestly and found it weird. Also, some people who indulge in this kind of stuff can be weird if I speak from experience. I wonder what do some of the others here think personally? TL:DR I don't think there is an issue with Loli Porn, but more of people just not being huge fans of it. I think it's harmless and is nothing like actual Child Porn which actually has real people in it compared to Loli Porn having fictional characters. I also don't think that everyone who simply may like it is for the sole reason of them being a pedophile, but other possible reasons such as: Aesthetics, Context with the Character, Art-Style, etc. I still include pedophilia being a possible reason for them liking it, but not the only or main reason. Not a fan of some of the fans of Loli Porn or Lolicons due to their "eccentric" personalities and I think if people like it and enjoy it while hurting no one then it's no big deal. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| there is no issue with loli porn unless you live in a country where its illegal |
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assyrian said: there is no issue with loli porn unless you live in a country where its illegal The guy I referenced wants to make it illegal everywhere. Others shame you and make you out to be a pedophile for liking it. I don't think it's an "issue", but people who don't like it and shame people for liking it. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| as long as you can separate fiction from reality then its fine problem is some people take fiction as reality already |
| You mean how there isn't enough of it, but way too many threads about it that all say the same thing? Yes, that's definitely an issue. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| The "lolis don't look like children" argument is horseshit. Anime is a figurative art form, lolis represent little girls, and they have the sexual characteristics of little girls. If it's not about little girls, then why lolis and not anime trees or cats or cars? It's true however that no child is hurt in the process, and that as far as I'm concerned, unless someone shows credibledata that loli porn increases the chance of someone to attack a real little girl, it's not a problem. But the contorsions of some loli lovers who insist into pretending that shit isn't creepy are seriously unsightly. |
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Clebardman said: The "lolis don't look like children" argument is horseshit. Anime is a figurative art form, lolis represent little girls, and they have the sexual characteristics of little girls. If it's not about little girls, then why lolis and not anime trees or cats or cars? It's true however that no child is hurt in the process, and that as far as I'm concerned, unless someone shows credibledata that loli porn increases the chance of someone to attack a real little girl, it's not a problem. But the contorsions of some loli lovers who insist into pretending that shit isn't creepy are seriously unsightly. I agree with you. Lolis do look like children and I'm not saying that they don't. I am saying that it's possibly not the only or the reason they like them. I do include that it could be because they're attracted to girls or children in a way. Some people may love looking at animated cities or the art-style than seeing one in real life. I don't want it to seem that I'm denying that people have some weird kinks. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
isekai said: as long as you can separate fiction from reality then its fine problem is some people take fiction as reality already Definitely. Instead of worrying about Loli-Porn...how about they worry about something more important? I don't want to say they can't express how they dislike it, but they make it seem like it's the biggest threat to national security. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| @Halpher If people wanted to jack off to cities or pretty background, they'd watch Akira or Kimi no na Wa, no? ^_- you're talking about loli porn here, not CGDCT |
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Clebardman said: @Halpher If people wanted to jack off to cities or pretty background, they'd watch Akira or Kimi no na Wa, no? ^_- you're talking about loli porn here, not CGDCT LMAO. Not saying they would jack off the cities and pretty backgrounds, but more or so they just like looking at it more. Infact...backgrounds could add something to viewer. Could give some additional....context... |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| @Halpher All I know is, I'm never exploring the computer of a 2d loli lover again. Did it once IRL, ended up in a CP folder. |
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| People do have bad taste in porn.... |
Clebardman said: The "lolis don't look like children" argument is horseshit. Anime is a figurative art form, lolis represent little girls, and they have the sexual characteristics of little girls. If it's not about little girls, then why lolis and not anime trees or cats or cars? Because trees or cats or cars don't have sexy designs? What kind of question is that even? It doesn't have to be about the age, it can just be about the designs and stuff. Plus even tho the idea of lolis might be related to the idea of children/little girls it doesn't "represent" them in any accurate sense and in fact I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who likes lolis specifically for the aspects about them that differ from real children (or even other anime child characters that aren't sexualized). Lolis are a walking contradiction that couldn't exist irl because their main appeal (to me) is the irrational combination of childlike innocence and naivite and high sexual awareness, maturity, desire and seductiveness which are mutually exclusive if you think about it logically, but fiction makes it possible <3. The petite body type is definitely a plus too since I was never into big tits and large body frames. I mean sure, there are a bunch of loli doujins that so focus on realistic scenarios and making the lolis feel exactly like real children as well, and those can get pretty creepy even for a lolicon like me because the 'lolis' suddenly don't react well to the sexual situations they are put in and just cry like real children would and it feels awkward to read that kind of stuff, especially if the art is very realistic as well. But for a lot of people I think you just have to see it as any other part of anime or fiction. It's more about the characteristics that are represented/embodied and combined in the archetype than it is about the correlation to real children, who are just related to some of those characteristics, but not the most defining ones. At least that's my take on it. Even the loli-porn audience isn't just black and white and can be into it to different degrees and for different reasons so any kind of assumptions that they're always gonna be into it for reason X is bound to be inaccurate. There is loli porn that does try to be as close to reality as possible and there is loli porn that tries to remove itself as much as possible from reality and everything in between and they definitely appeal to different people within the loli fandom. |
AlcoholicideMar 22, 2018 3:36 PM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Did you really need to write all that just to justify to yourself that you beat off to drawings of children. |
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Clebardman said: @Halpher All I know is, I'm never exploring the computer of a 2d loli lover again. Did it once IRL, ended up in a CP folder. That's tragic but also very anecdotal so it doesn't really mean anything in the large scale of things. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Well here are my 2 cents. Loli porn and such are just not my thing to be honest. But I have to say one thing: "It's Fiction" I doesn't do Harm, it doesn't make ppl do things (except in cases of nutcases) and there is no proof of it making ppl go pedo or violent. and now I feel like complimenting you for saying something controversial in a polite manner and I hope that ppl won't go at each other throat instead of discussing it politely. |
BourmegarMar 22, 2018 3:29 PM
| I adopt the approach that, so long as it doesn't drive you to seek out actual child pornography, I don't see a problem with it. In the end, it's all just lines on a page that the human brain interprets as an image. It doesn't require the exploitation and mistreatment of children to create. In the end, the only thing that's harmed is your respectability. Saying this, drawings depicting underage persons engaged in sexual/provocative acts are treated as child pornography here in the United Kingdom (except Scotland) and you are open to prosecution. Though, as far as I know, this has only happened once. |
ManicMayoMar 22, 2018 3:31 PM
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| I will keep saying this. Lolis are enjoyment. Lolis are freedom. Lolis are fate. Lolis are 4lyfe.  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . but i wouldn't marry them. im normal. |
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| @Pullman When I said "represent", I meant in a visual way. Lolis look like children in the context of the show (art style and shit). If they didn't, no one would be interested (or at least not as many people, I know MLP deviants exist (^': ) because they'd lack the primary and secondary sexual characteristics of the female body, develloped or not. Now about the other aspect you mentionned... Okay so lets assume this is the main reason for your liking of lolis. Then why not make that character a grown-up, or even a tree, as I was pointing out? If it's really not about the loli and only about the situation, why not simply pick characters who aren't 12yo (something the porn industry does all the time in millions "dad fucks stepdaughter" vids where the girl isn't a teenager or worse) The whole "I'm not in it for the lolis" thing sounds... hmmm. I'm not specifically talking about you, because this comes up often, and I can't help but see it as an attempt at laying smoke screens, conscious or not. And about that CP thing... yes, I know it's anecdotal, but it's also an hint that I know the difference between loli porn and actual CP better than I'd like to, and it doesn't change my stance on it, even counting in the fiction argument. |
DeathkoMar 22, 2018 3:48 PM
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Bobby2Hands said: Did you really need to write all that just to justify to yourself that you beat off to drawings of children. I don't even look at Loli Drawings, Lol. I am still bothered by the person who I referred to in my OP. She could accuse you of anything and you can't even defend yourself. Somehow if a car crash happens and the bus is delayed due to this and routes are blocked off and the bus now has to go a different route and there is a lot of traffic and you're stuck in a jam for 1 full hour...for some reason..it's due to "Poor Time Management" Despite you waking up 4 AM catching the bus 5 AM and getting to my destination at 6 AM walking in the FREEZING COLD WITH WIND CHILLS! Then leave after I do 5 hours of my assignment to leave to do something I planned to do which is at 12 PM and the bus issue took 4 HOURS! For some reason...IT'S YOUR FAULT SOMEHOW! Poor time management my ass...that woman is a bitch and can suck my dick. She pissed me off. Saying "You act like you know everything, but I am an adult and I have experiences just like you" WHEN SHE IS IGNORING MY EXPERIENCE ALTOGETHER! Fucks sake...No money on my bus fare card and she tells me to add money so the money she added can be added and I DO WHAT SHE SAYS AND IT DOESN'T WORK! SOMEHOW IT'S MY FAULT! Everything she does is antagonize and attack you. Disrespectful as fuck. I am bothered by what she did to me today, man. I can't even focus.... |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| i too had a very similar issue with a friend of mine n was quite frustrated too. but didnt took it quite seriously n continued to get along just fine. now after 4 months or so,im still a loli lover n that friend of has now changed his discord username to '' lordloli '' #loli_power |
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| Everyone likes loli hentai because it's a bit of variety in hentai every now and again. Some people like it exclusively since that's their taste. Lolis have absolutely nothing to do with irl children as you say. All hentai genres are okay. Apart from netorare. If you like that shit you should kys. |
| mhhhm interesting... I've got to admit that lolis in hentai can result in very interesting scenes , I mean , my fav girl in my fav hentai , is a blonde loli : but , personally , I think it depends on what kind of loli we're talking about , 'cause as someone said in another thread , Mafuyu Orifushi looks like a 15-16-years-old girl but acts like a an adult who wants to have sex with the MC and when she's naked , she's hot asf , like , DAMN!!!!  so even though she looks like a loli , she has this shape of a short and slim sexy girl , which it may be quite hot to many people , for example , I don't have any problem with people liking a girl who looks like this , I like them: so there's no problem with lolis like Mafuyu Orifushi imo. Lolis who really look like a child on the other hand , even though I don't care if someone like it , I just can't understand why they find characters like that hot or sexy, they look like kids don't they? I mean , there's a a huge difference between this:  and this:  I'm not critizing those who like that but can't see why they do ... |
Bourmegar said: Well here are my 2 cents. Loli porn and such are just not my thing to be honest. But I have to say one thing: "It's Fiction" I doesn't do Harm, it doesn't make ppl do things (except in cases of nutcases) and there is no proof of it making ppl go pedo or violent. and now I feel like complimenting you for saying something controversial in a polite manner and I hope that ppl won't go at each other throat instead of discussing it politely. Thank you for you "2 cents". Thank you for the compliment as well. I'm just trying to be open about this entire topic. Surprised that no one fully disagrees with me 100% compared to the other platform in which I gave my opinion about this. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
TigersAndDragons said: Everyone likes loli hentai because it's a bit of variety in hentai every now and again. Some people like it exclusively since that's their taste. Lolis have absolutely nothing to do with irl children as you say. All hentai genres are okay. Apart from netorare. If you like that shit you should kys. What is "netorare"? I have no idea what that is. Would you kindly make me aware? |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
Jare4lopez said: mhhhm interesting... I've got to admit that lolis in hentai can result in very interesting scenes , I mean , my fav girl in my fav hentai , is a blonde loli : but , personally , I think it depends on what kind of loli we're talking about , 'cause as someone said in another thread , Mafuyu Orifushi looks like a 15-16-years-old girl but acts like a an adult who wants to have sex with the MC and when she's naked , she's hot asf , like , DAMN!!!! so even though she looks like a loli , she has this shape of a short and slim sexy girl , which it may be quite hot to many people , for example , I don't have any problem with people liking a girl who looks like this , I like them: so there's no problem with lolis like Mafuyu Orifushi imo. Lolis who really look like a child on the other hand , even though I don't care if someone like it , I just can't understand why they find characters like that hot or sexy, they look like kids don't they? I mean , there's a a huge difference between this: and this: I'm not critizing those who like that but can't see why they do ... The real life pictures of the girls there was.....nice....very attractive..... Now, I relate to you when you say that you don't understand why people like Lolis that look like kids. I don't understand it myself. I know you're not criticizing them as you're expressing that you just don't understand their preference. It's cool, man. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
Halpher said: Bourmegar said: Well here are my 2 cents. Loli porn and such are just not my thing to be honest. But I have to say one thing: "It's Fiction" I doesn't do Harm, it doesn't make ppl do things (except in cases of nutcases) and there is no proof of it making ppl go pedo or violent. and now I feel like complimenting you for saying something controversial in a polite manner and I hope that ppl won't go at each other throat instead of discussing it politely. Thank you for you "2 cents". Thank you for the compliment as well. I'm just trying to be open about this entire topic. Surprised that no one fully disagrees with me 100% compared to the other platform in which I gave my opinion about this. That is probably because MAL is less political correct I guess. Did you tell it the same way on the other platform? |
Clebardman said: @Halpher All I know is, I'm never exploring the computer of a 2d loli lover again. Did it once IRL, ended up in a CP folder. WHAT DID YOU SEE!? WHAT HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED!? |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
Bourmegar said: Halpher said: Thank you for you "2 cents". Thank you for the compliment as well. I'm just trying to be open about this entire topic. Surprised that no one fully disagrees with me 100% compared to the other platform in which I gave my opinion about this. That is probably because MAL is less political correct I guess. Did you tell it the same way on the other platform? I did. I didn't attack anyone or anything. Just stated my thoughts and some people agreed while others simply attacked me. For some reason, I am now a Lolicon? These people will act superior and act like they're better than you, but can't have a respectful conversation about anything. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
ManicMayo said: I adopt the approach that, so long as it doesn't drive you to seek out actual child pornography, I don't see a problem with it. In the end, it's all just lines on a page that the human brain interprets as an image. It doesn't require the exploitation and mistreatment of children to create. In the end, the only thing that's harmed is your respectability. Saying this, drawings depicting underage persons engaged in sexual/provocative acts are treated as child pornography here in the United Kingdom (except Scotland) and you are open to prosecution. Though, as far as I know, this has only happened once. Having that approach to some people makes you sick somehow. The person in my story is resharing the loli or cartoon child porn and bitching about it everyday. Makes a post saying people hate this, but not this as if people should care about cartoon porn art. Then says that it should outlawed everywhere. At this point I NEVER THOUGHT OF CARTOON OR LOLI PORN..... I never really seen it. This person reshared it and complained about seeing it EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE THE ONES LOOKING FOR IT! Then if you say that you don't think it should be banned because it doesn't harm anyone then for some reason you're sick? I mean...I don't like Sword Art Online, but does that mean it shouldn't be made? It doesn't harm him, but only disgusts him. He isn't the only one who has done this, but he is so easy to bring up when people misinterpret and misrepresent you on certain topics. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
Halpher said: Bourmegar said: That is probably because MAL is less political correct I guess. Did you tell it the same way on the other platform? I did. I didn't attack anyone or anything. Just stated my thoughts and some people agreed while others simply attacked me. For some reason, I am now a Lolicon? These people will act superior and act like they're better than you, but can't have a respectful conversation about anything. Yh that is sadly true, especially when it is politically charged. Sometimes I feel that ppl just catagorise others because it is easier than thinking more about it. People should just calm down sometimes and think before they comment. |
Halpher said: TigersAndDragons said: Everyone likes loli hentai because it's a bit of variety in hentai every now and again. Some people like it exclusively since that's their taste. Lolis have absolutely nothing to do with irl children as you say. All hentai genres are okay. Apart from netorare. If you like that shit you should kys. What is "netorare"? I have no idea what that is. Would you kindly make me aware? Netorare is pretty much a romantic partner being stolen away and *hentai'd* by someone else. It is disgusting, especially when you imagine that your favourite anime couples, in my case (Toradora spoilers) probably have a netorare doujinshi out there somewhere. Just thinking about it makes my blood boil. |
| I don't see how the term loli even rings alarm bells in peoples minds anymore like no seriously the word has like no meaning anymore. Almost everything is a loli now a days She flat? Has to be a loli I guess  She slightly shorter than everyone else? Has to be a loli I guess  just look at @Jare4lopez for example. He called Mafuyu a loli despite not being one There shouldn't be a issue anymore for the people in the community who like lolis because its basically just replaced the terms for those that like small breasts or shorter girls |
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Clebardman said: @Pullman When I said "represent", I meant in a visual way. Lolis look like children in the context of the show (art style and shit). If they didn't, no one would be interested (or at least not as many people, I know MLP deviants exist (^': ) because they'd lack the primary and secondary sexual characteristics of the female body, develloped or not. So you're just talking about the visuals, as in loli as a bodytype? That's even less related to pedophilia imo since in that case it's not necessarily about the age and the characteristics associated with that age (which is what pedophilia is about) but just a preference for small, petite bodies that may even be adults that just look that way but have nothing childlike about them in terms of their age and personality. Personally I don't even see adult minds in a child body as lolis, nevermind being indicative of liking children. Now about the other aspect you mentionned... Okay so lets assume this is the main reason for your liking of lolis. Then why not make that character a grown-up, or even a tree, as I was pointing out? If it's really not about the loli and only about the situation, why not simply pick characters who aren't 12yo (something the porn industry does all the time in millions "dad fucks stepdaughter" vids where the girl isn't a teenager or worse) Well, as I said most people are still generally attracted to the female human form visually no matter what kind of characteristics appeal to them beyond that so ofc that's what it's gonna look like if it's gonna be porn for heterosexual men. Not trees. As for the age, I never said it doesn't matter. It is part of the deal when the attraction is the unrealistic combination of childlike innocence with corrupting sexual elements. Both body and mind being based on children can't be denied, I'm just saying it doesn't end there and what makes lolis appealing for most people are the unrealistic, fictional elements that get added on top of that which make them removed from reality and distinctly different from real children. The whole "I'm not in it for the lolis" thing sounds... hmmm. I'm not specifically talking about you, because this comes up often, and I can't help but see it as an attempt at laying smoke screens, conscious or not. Now you're mixing up fiction and reality. I'm definitely in it for the lolis since they are the fictionalized versions that don't exist irl. I'm just saying you don't have to be into real kids because they lack certain defining elements that lolis have that you won't find irl. Simple as that. I mean the whole topic/area is full of grey-zones and different interests so I think any kind of blanket statements are to be regarded with a lot of skepticism. If you go beyond porn lolis can appeal as imoutos or to your fatherly instinct, they can be just moe or very sexualized, they can be about their appearance, their age or their personality, and their ages can vary from barely above a toddler to basically a teen already depending on the author/preferences of the lolicon. Even if you just talk about a loli porn there's a lot of different reasons to like them. I'm a lolicon and I've browsed probably thousands of doujins over the years and there is a lot of stuff I love and a lot of stuff I really don't like or that even disgusts me and it all falls under the same label. Some of it is definitely pedophilic, but most of it is just so far removed from reality that it isn't. I'd only worry about fiction relating to reality when it obviously is trying to be as realistic as possible while depicting stuff like that. Even then I'd give artistic freedom the priority, but in those cases I can understand people worrying or being creeped out or drawing conclusions to some degree. But for most loli porn I've seen I don't really understand because it is clearly trying to set itself apart from reality, not be as close to it as possible. Of course that's a scale too but you get what I'm trying to say. Some fetishes involving lolis aren't even sexual or about the lolis and lolis are just there because they represent the height of innocence and therefore the ultimate 'victim' for any kind of corruption fetish. Fetishes/Sexual preferences are a complex topic both in fiction and in real life but one thing I'm confident in saying is that I fap to a lot of shit in doujins/hentai that would straight-up kill my boner if I saw it irl or in live-action. You don't even wanna know xD That goes far beyond just lolis. So to me it's always been natural that there is little to no relation in regards to what I fap to in doujins/hentai and my rl sexuality (or even just what I fap to in live-action porn, which is very different stuff from my cartoon fetishes as well). So it always baffles me how many people are so convined that it directly relates to what you'd want to do irl. It certainly can, but that's like entry level fapping that doesn't really try to explore the possibilities of fiction to its fullest :> |
AlcoholicideMar 22, 2018 4:40 PM
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Deknijff said: I don't see how the term loli even rings alarm bells in peoples minds anymore like no seriously the word has like no meaning anymore. Almost everything is a loli now a days She flat? Has to be a loli I guess She slightly shorter than everyone else? Has to be a loli I guess just look at @Jare4lopez for example. He called Mafuyu a loli despite not being one There shouldn't be a issue anymore for the people in the community who like lolis because its basically just replaced the terms for those that like small breasts or shorter girls Yeah, that's (ironically) called a 'legal loli'. |
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ManicMayo said: Deknijff said: I don't see how the term loli even rings alarm bells in peoples minds anymore like no seriously the word has like no meaning anymore. Almost everything is a loli now a days She flat? Has to be a loli I guess She slightly shorter than everyone else? Has to be a loli I guess just look at @Jare4lopez for example. He called Mafuyu a loli despite not being one There shouldn't be a issue anymore for the people in the community who like lolis because its basically just replaced the terms for those that like small breasts or shorter girls Yeah, that's (ironically) called a 'legal loli'. Hestia isn't even that since this doesn't apply: "Legal Loli is a term applied to fictional females with prepubescent physiques while at the same time being older than the legal age of consent, sometimes reaching to up to thousands of years of age." If it is neither of prepubescent age nor has a prepubescent physique it just isn't a loli in any way, yet anyone and their mom calls Hestia a loli. I never got that -.- |
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Deknijff said: just look at @Jare4lopez for example. He called Mafuyu a loli despite not being one There shouldn't be a issue anymore for the people in the community who like lolis because its basically just replaced the terms for those that like small breasts or shorter girls Yeah I remember you saying the same in another thread, I just call them like that cause I've always done it, don't really know if it's correct or not, as I said in my post, I see Mafuyu as a short and slim sexy girl, don't really care about terms actually... |
Deknijff said: I don't see how the term loli even rings alarm bells in peoples minds anymore like no seriously the word has like no meaning anymore. Almost everything is a loli now a days She flat? Has to be a loli I guess She slightly shorter than everyone else? Has to be a loli I guess just look at @Jare4lopez for example. He called Mafuyu a loli despite not being one There shouldn't be a issue anymore for the people in the community who like lolis because its basically just replaced the terms for those that like small breasts or shorter girls Ppl just judge quickly because anime lacks finer details. It is also pretty weird to call Hestia a loli since puberty already struck her like a truck with her Curves. And lolies are just kids. Bdw where did you find the Hestia pick? |
Bourmegar said: Ah sorry Bourmegar but I don't remember the site Bdw where did you find the Hestia pick? Its just something I had saved on imgur @ManicMayo Im aware of the meme but thanks @Jare4lopez If that is the case Id suggest you not using the term at all if you don't even care to be correct and just throw the word around |
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Deknijff said: Bourmegar said: Ah sorry Bourmegar but I don't remember the site Bdw where did you find the Hestia pick? Its just something I had saved on imgur @ManicMayo Im aware of the meme but thanks @Jare4lopez If that is the case Id suggest you not using the term at all if you don't even care to be correct and just throw the word around And Nw I have it on my mobile to, thanks man:) I don't like the series but that doesn't mean that she doesn't look good :) |
Bourmegar said: Glad to spread the love of the female form my dudeAnd Nw I have it on my mobile to, thanks man:) I don't like the series but that doesn't mean that she doesn't look good :) and I feel you too. Have a dislike for Dagashi no Kashi but damn Saya is just so fucking fine looking |
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Clebardman said: @Pullman When I said "represent", I meant in a visual way. Lolis look like children in the context of the show (art style and shit). If they didn't, no one would be interested (or at least not as many people, I know MLP deviants exist (^': ) because they'd lack the primary and secondary sexual characteristics of the female body, develloped or not. Now about the other aspect you mentionned... Okay so lets assume this is the main reason for your liking of lolis. Then why not make that character a grown-up, or even a tree, as I was pointing out? If it's really not about the loli and only about the situation, why not simply pick characters who aren't 12yo (something the porn industry does all the time in millions "dad fucks stepdaughter" vids where the girl isn't a teenager or worse) The whole "I'm not in it for the lolis" thing sounds... hmmm. I'm not specifically talking about you, because this comes up often, and I can't help but see it as an attempt at laying smoke screens, conscious or not. And about that CP thing... yes, I know it's anecdotal, but it's also an hint that I know the difference between loli porn and actual CP better than I'd like to, and it doesn't change my stance on it, even counting in the fiction argument. I think it is a lot like the sense of removal people have when they watch FLCL and ignore the main character is 12 and is lewded on by 18+ types. Or how people make a ton of excuses about Misato x Shinji even though he is 14 and has shown no interest... But then again you don’t see a lot of people defending shota on a whole like they do lolis I am somebody who is definitely attracted to Shinji. Not even about age to me... It is his femininity that gets me going... his sad face... I donno but I do want him to be happy with Kaworu... |
Energetic-NovaMar 22, 2018 5:34 PM
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| Tbf you're getting off to a child either way, but it's fine as long as it's a cartoon. You'd be classed as a pedophile more if you were into actual children |
| @YayaChibi and what does MonMusu slaps onto its sexy tree, or Redline onto its sexy mecha? Oh yes, human sexual characteristics. They're depictions of women with a few non-sexual weird characteristics, but all in all they're still depictions of women, just like a loli is the depiction of an underage girl, no matter if she's a human or cat or vampire loli. It's not as if the average MonMusu watcher was fapping to Kii's leaves. I knew someone would give me the sexy mechas argument tho. Not surprised to see it's you, lol lmao. (^: @Energetic-Nova Yes, the whole shota thing is the same. Somehow Boku no Pico is a meme people watch in disgust, and loli porn is like "be open-minded, it's just fictiooooon, man". Or how you can be too furry, but apparently can't love 2d lolis too much. Honestly, Shinji is hmkay for me. Like, he's not prepubescent and old enough to care about getting laid... Probably not with a 20+ yo girl who owns his flat and is his superior at work, tho. @-PlaceHolder- it's not about looking, it's about representing/depicting something. As I pointed out, anime is a figurative art form. Hentai doesn't look like porn but it's still a pornographic depiction of sexual acts, and that's the reason why people go after it, am I right? Why would it be any different for loli porn? |
DeathkoMar 22, 2018 5:47 PM
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| There is absolutely nothing wrong with loli content. Any insinuation that it has any relationship whatsoever is ridiculous imo. Lolicon and pedophilia have nothing to do with each other. |
Clebardman said: @YayaChibi and what does MonMusu slaps onto its sexy tree, or Redline onto its sexy mecha? Oh yes, human sexual characteristics. They're depictions of women with a few non-sexual weird characteristics, but all in all they're still depictions of women, just like a loli is the depiction of an underage girl, no matter if she's a human or cat or vampire loli. It's not as if the average MonMusu watcher was fapping to Kii's leaves. I knew someone would give me the sexy mechas argument tho. Not surprised to see it's you, lol lmao. (^: I have seen unit 01 porn... Yui is best girl I guess. |
| The anime community in a nutshell. |
Deknijff said: @Jare4lopez If that is the case Id suggest you not using the term at all if you don't even care to be correct and just throw the word around Yeah I may do so , I see it pisses loli fans off , I don't really know why though , 'cause it's just a simple misconception after all , I just try to enjoy anime/manga as much as I can , like , it's not that grave , but people arguing about this sort of stuff is what makes this community so irritating at times ... |
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