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Dec 1, 2017 3:21 PM

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exciting first fourth of the season tbh

Dec 1, 2017 9:44 PM
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is Aaron Gordon always been a shooter? wow i remember his rookie days when he is just an inside presence and now he can shoot it from outside or maybe i have not seen much of him playing lol
Dec 12, 2017 4:41 AM

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My OKC fucking sucks dick, it's such a shame seeing this team that has a lot of talent fail miserably like this.
Dec 12, 2017 10:57 AM

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milosh_ said:
My OKC fucking sucks dick, it's such a shame seeing this team that has a lot of talent fail miserably like this.


If only OKC had Harden, Durant, and Westbrook. Now THAT would be a good team.

They'll be decent once they figure out how to get consistent performances and effort, but there's no chance they make noise in the playoffs if they make it.

go celts
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Dec 13, 2017 10:06 PM

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I think the problem with OKC is that the team doesn't have jack shit for a bench. If they do have a worthwhile bench, we haven't seen it yet. If OKC's reserves really are worthless, then the front office is to blame for not thinking to sign quality back-up players that would complement their new superstar trio. If the OKC bench is actually good, then the blame falls on Billy Donovan for inflating the minutes of his starters and not giving his back-ups opportunities to shine.

Either way, it's kinda obvious as to why KD left in the first place.
Dec 13, 2017 10:22 PM
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why are the Bulls winning? lol they are suppose to lose to get that juicy top draft pick

trade Mirotic already to protect the tank
Dec 13, 2017 11:40 PM

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Damn, another ugly W for us although I'll take any kind of W at this point. Our shooters have been terrible holy shit, Adams is hands down carrying this team.
Dec 17, 2017 1:56 PM

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What the hell is up with Michael Beasley?

This guy has been known his entire career as a mediocre journeyman. He really didn't leave much of an impression on any teams as a young player.

And yet, right now Beasley is the second best player on the Knicks. He dropped 30 points on the Thunder yesterday and he dropped another 30 on the Rockets a few weeks ago. He's been embarrasing defenders left and right with his crossovers and pull-up jumpers.

Either Beasley has somehow made a comeback season after being washed-up or he's always had this kind of talent and no one really noticed.

No matter how Beasley's incredible 2018 season happened, I know for sure who has my vote for this year's All-Star lineup. Keep up the good work, my man.
Dec 18, 2017 6:36 PM

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Boston got a game-winning dunk. Don't see that everyday.
Dec 18, 2017 9:08 PM
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LONZO BALL IS A FUCKING FUTURE ALLSTAR MY NIGGAS
Dec 24, 2017 5:42 PM

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Everyone is sleeping on my Toronto Raptors lately. 2nd in the east and 1st in most stats since November 25.
Dec 24, 2017 5:48 PM
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tulongest said:
Everyone is sleeping on my Toronto Raptors lately. 2nd in the east and 1st in most stats since November 25.


the Raptors are always playing great in the regular season but come playoff time they choke
Dec 24, 2017 6:45 PM
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Came here to say Lavar Ball is a dumbass
Dec 24, 2017 7:04 PM

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isekai said:
tulongest said:
Everyone is sleeping on my Toronto Raptors lately. 2nd in the east and 1st in most stats since November 25.


the Raptors are always playing great in the regular season but come playoff time they choke


They're not playing much iso ball anymore so that's something different from years past. We'll see what happens. DD can shoot the 3 now!
Dec 25, 2017 11:04 AM

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Off-topic but this keeps bothering me so I must mention it.

Why do people keep insisting that losing in the first round of the playoffs is a better result than losing in the Finals? They both have the same end result but there is nothing to validate the former whereas the latter suggests the team is close to achieving the 'chip. Excluded whether the team is rebuilding/contending.

Anyone care to elaborate on this?

Also CAVS v GSW will be a juicy showdown. No Curry/Isaiah for either side, will be an interesting affair :)

EDIT: Man, I can't believe the Cavs somehow made it close despite shooting 30%, I predict a finals sweep going by current form.
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All credit goes to Sacred.
Dec 27, 2017 12:43 AM

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FireEmblemIke24 said:

Why do people keep insisting that losing in the first round of the playoffs is a better result than losing in the Finals? They both have the same end result but there is nothing to validate the former whereas the latter suggests the team is close to achieving the 'chip.


I agree with you 100 percent but I would like to know who exactly said that "losing in first round > losing in Finals".
Dec 27, 2017 1:02 AM

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FireEmblemIke24 said:
Off-topic but this keeps bothering me so I must mention it.

Why do people keep insisting that losing in the first round of the playoffs is a better result than losing in the Finals? They both have the same end result but there is nothing to validate the former whereas the latter suggests the team is close to achieving the 'chip. Excluded whether the team is rebuilding/contending.

Yeah getting eliminated in the first round mean you are probably some middle of the road team like the Pistons and Grizzlies have been. Not shit enough to get good picks and rebuild but respectable enough to present something to the fans. Not a real good place to be.

But if your post was more directed towards people clowning on bron bron cuz he is 3/8 in the finals then yeah. He is expected to rise up and perform on the highest stage like an ATG should. Not have such a horrendous finals record. 2011 was winnable. That series where Love and Kyrie was out? Winnable. He had a 2-1 lead going into a home game. The most recent finals? Winnable if he actually focuses on defense and not stat padding. One must also take into consideration how easy it has been to get into the finals via east. What credible teams have been in the east? Washed up Celtics? 2014 Hawks? Pacers? Craptors featuring the trash bros? So it really just comes down to context.
Dec 27, 2017 1:17 AM

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@Jfuji

2011 was a clear choke, even the most biased fan would admit that. 2015 was winnable? I see you're argument there but when your next two best players on the court are Dellavedova and Mozgov, there is little you can get out of them. The "next man step up" mentality almost worked but warriors sheer talent bested them. The most recent finals winnable, surely you're joking? The Cavs had an atrocious transition defense ranking last in that department, among other things as well. Their defense is broken from sub-par defenders in Love, Irving and the King of Coasting himself. If they got John Wall and the Wizards earlier, they may have been knocked out exploiting that gaping hole in their defense.

Blame the NBA for the shit Eastern Conference, we should move on to a 1-16 seeding system but mah geography issues will be ever present. It doesn't help that the shitty eastern teams play each other more than twice which makes no sense. Scrap divisional conferences and move to a 58 game season format. The games will have more importance and increased rest will result in higher performances.
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Dec 27, 2017 5:31 AM

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JFuji said:
FireEmblemIke24 said:
Off-topic but this keeps bothering me so I must mention it.

Why do people keep insisting that losing in the first round of the playoffs is a better result than losing in the Finals? They both have the same end result but there is nothing to validate the former whereas the latter suggests the team is close to achieving the 'chip. Excluded whether the team is rebuilding/contending.

Yeah getting eliminated in the first round mean you are probably some middle of the road team like the Pistons and Grizzlies have been. Not shit enough to get good picks and rebuild but respectable enough to present something to the fans. Not a real good place to be.

But if your post was more directed towards people clowning on bron bron cuz he is 3/8 in the finals then yeah. He is expected to rise up and perform on the highest stage like an ATG should. Not have such a horrendous finals record. 2011 was winnable. That series where Love and Kyrie was out? Winnable. He had a 2-1 lead going into a home game. The most recent finals? Winnable if he actually focuses on defense and not stat padding. One must also take into consideration how easy it has been to get into the finals via east. What credible teams have been in the east? Washed up Celtics? 2014 Hawks? Pacers? Craptors featuring the trash bros? So it really just comes down to context.



Okay, Skip.
Dec 27, 2017 2:53 PM

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FireEmblemIke24 said:
@Jfuji

2011 was a clear choke, even the most biased fan would admit that. 2015 was winnable? I see you're argument there but when your next two best players on the court are Dellavedova and Mozgov, there is little you can get out of them. The "next man step up" mentality almost worked but warriors sheer talent bested them. The most recent finals winnable, surely you're joking? The Cavs had an atrocious transition defense ranking last in that department, among other things as well. Their defense is broken from sub-par defenders in Love, Irving and the King of Coasting himself. If they got John Wall and the Wizards earlier, they may have been knocked out exploiting that gaping hole in their defense.

Blame the NBA for the shit Eastern Conference, we should move on to a 1-16 seeding system but mah geography issues will be ever present. It doesn't help that the shitty eastern teams play each other more than twice which makes no sense. Scrap divisional conferences and move to a 58 game season format. The games will have more importance and increased rest will result in higher performances.

Well basically I was just trying to say that losing in the first round is definitely not better. However, getting to the finals from the east and losing isn't a great feat either. As far as the most recent finals goes? Yeah Kevin Love didn't shoot well. But at the same time you gotta admit KD LIT Lebron James up all series long. Didn't he shoot like 60% from the field or something? We may have to agree to disagree on that. Though I think 07 and 15' are excusable now that I think about it more.

I might perhaps just be a hater. But let's be honest. He has been rather fortunate. Playing in the east. Bailed out by Ray Allen. The league even stepped in and did things like suspend Draymond and veto the Chris Paul trade. And even with all that, things happen like him getting locked down by 6 foot guards Barea/Terry and an out of shape Boris Diaw. I just find it interesting.

But yeah it'd be nice if they changed the playoff bracket system. I'd even settle if they just shuffled around teams and made Houston, New Orleans and Memphis eastern conference teams.
Dec 27, 2017 7:37 PM

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Oh my god the Hawks won two games in a row for the first time this season. They need to stop this foolishness at once and go back to tanking


Bulls won 2 in a row
Mavs won 2 in a row
Hawks won 2 in a row

All sub .500 teams beating playoff teams lmao.

On another note, Northwest division is the hottest this season.
Dec 28, 2017 3:19 AM

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Holy shit, seems like my OKC finally figured it out and they've been killing it
Dec 28, 2017 6:45 AM

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milosh_ said:
Holy shit, seems like my OKC finally figured it out and they've been killing it


The Big 3 are doing things now and it feels good.
Dec 28, 2017 10:08 PM

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I learned two things tonight:

1. Marcus Smart needs an oscar

2. Houston has a problem
Dec 31, 2017 9:26 AM
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Affalo said:
I learned two things tonight:

1. Marcus Smart needs an oscar

2. Houston has a problem


You may be on right on number 2 but I disagree on number 1....Smart didn't flop, Harden was just too emotional/aggressive and the NBA said afterwards those are the right calls
Jan 7, 2018 4:12 AM

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Curry for MVP. Str8 BALLIN
Jan 9, 2018 5:46 AM

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why the fuck are the lakers so bad!!! you guys dont even have your pick!! stop hogging the top 3 draft pick spot!!
Jan 12, 2018 10:18 PM

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-STARBOY- said:
Curry for MVP. Str8 BALLIN

he doesnt need a fucking third one.

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Jan 12, 2018 10:22 PM

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Blake Griffin fucks his knees, comes back, then gets elbowed in the head.
It seems like he cant stay healthy damn.

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Jan 13, 2018 11:50 AM

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LeiLH said:
-STARBOY- said:
Curry for MVP. Str8 BALLIN

he doesnt need a fucking third one.


They way he is playing makes him top 3 candidate imo,only problem is Harden is ballin even more and he deserves one aswell.

I don't care if he needs a third one or not,numbers are there,top seed and the team plays WAY better when he is on the court,valid points don't you think?
Jan 13, 2018 11:53 AM

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curry's been playing out of his mind after coming back from the injury but too bad he re-injured himself again

at this point i'd be content with him not having brittle ankles again

Jan 13, 2018 2:03 PM

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-STARBOY- said:
LeiLH said:

he doesnt need a fucking third one.


They way he is playing makes him top 3 candidate imo,only problem is Harden is ballin even more and he deserves one aswell.

I don't care if he needs a third one or not,numbers are there,top seed and the team plays WAY better when he is on the court,valid points don't you think?
GS has a 10-3 record without him the last 13 games. They are doing fine without him.

Surprised Miami is top 4 in the east, only 1 game behind Cleveland. No all stars. Team has been fun to watch again.
Jan 13, 2018 5:41 PM
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tulongest said:
Everyone is sleeping on my Toronto Raptors lately. 2nd in the east and 1st in most stats since November 25.


the Raptors are always playing great in the regular season but come playoff time they choke


If by choke you mean lose to LeBron then yes, Raptors as well as all other east playoff teams all are chokers that choke to LeGoat
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Jan 13, 2018 6:42 PM
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6Man said:
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the Raptors are always playing great in the regular season but come playoff time they choke


If by choke you mean lose to LeBron then yes, Raptors as well as all other east playoff teams all are chokers that choke to LeGoat


God I hate this narrative so much. We took the Cavs to 6 games in the 2016 playoffs, better than most East teams.
Jan 13, 2018 8:43 PM

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Lou Will is going off for the clippers.
Clippers still trash tho. 9th seed?

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Jan 15, 2018 5:02 AM
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y'all gotta check this shit out

Jan 15, 2018 5:14 AM
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even when steph and clay are meh they're still killing the raptors, got damn.

Jan 15, 2018 5:23 AM
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What are you talking about?
To say that they're "killing" the Raptors is a bit of a stretch. They allowed the Raptors to get back in the game despite having a convincing lead through three quarters. Towards the end of the 4th quarter, it was a 1-pt game. To top things off, the Raptors didn't have Lowry.
Jan 16, 2018 10:27 PM

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Jesus..

This season has sure as shit been hectic so far, huh? It's been one over-the-top beef after another.

First, there was the issue between LeBron and Kyrie; even an outsider can tell there's no love lost between those two.

Then, there was the rivalry between Embiid and Drummond. It didn't really go anywhere but it was pretty intense for a while.

Two days ago, we had the scuffle between the Rockets and the Clippers. The fight was definitely a result of years-long bad blood and I'm positive that CP3 leaving for Houston didn't help the matter either.

And now, just a few hours ago, there was an intense confrontation between Minnesota and Orlando. Aaron Affalo was put in a headlock by some Wolves player and it looked to me like a fight was going to start.

Say whatever you want about the NBA but it's definitely not boring.
Jan 24, 2018 12:31 PM
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https://twitter.com/ClevisMurray/status/956239454846574593

If this is true.....

The entire Cavs team just collectively imploded.
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Jan 24, 2018 12:44 PM

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6Man said:
https://twitter.com/ClevisMurray/status/956239454846574593

If this is true.....

The entire Cavs team just collectively imploded.

LOL!

The Lebron lottery has officially begun.

And you know what?

I'd HAPPILY Accept Lebron's return to South Beach if he wanted....
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6Man said:
https://twitter.com/ClevisMurray/status/956239454846574593

If this is true.....

The entire Cavs team just collectively imploded.


J I M M Y H A S L A M
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6Man said:
https://twitter.com/ClevisMurray/status/956239454846574593

If this is true.....

The entire Cavs team just collectively imploded.

LOL!

The Lebron lottery has officially begun.

And you know what?

I'd HAPPILY Accept Lebron's return to South Beach if he wanted....


>implying LeBron won't just buy the Cavaliers since he defacto runs them
Jan 25, 2018 8:22 AM

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Burn it down. To the ground.
Jan 29, 2018 4:19 PM
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lol, gg Pistons. Enjoy being the new Nets.
Jan 30, 2018 7:39 AM

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I never thought that I could hate Isaiah Thomas more than last year. I was so wrong... I hate this midget POS so much. Get this cancer off my team using the nearest Brinks truck to get him the hell to basketball Siberia ASAP.

And if the Cavs panic and trade the BKN pick for some shitty rental (aka the Clips' spare parts), I will rage so hard...
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Oh my god. Kevin Love just fractured his left hand and is out 6-8 weeks... This what I get for posting for the first time in months in the NBA thread. Never again...
Feb 3, 2018 1:46 AM

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What the fuck.
Blake Griffin For Avery Bradley and Tobias Harris?
fukkkk

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Feb 3, 2018 8:05 PM

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WTF Cavs lol. I understand losing thw game to a very good rocket's team. But not like this and in your own court.
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Feb 3, 2018 8:45 PM

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WTF Cavs lol. I understand losing thw game to a very good rocket's team. But not like this and in your own court.


The Cavs are done man.

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Feb 6, 2018 8:20 PM
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Porzings got torn ACL now too, so sad about that
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