| It seems to me that all you post is about loli. Are you a lolicon? |
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Illyricus said: Because incest and pedophilia are very delicate themes, and not all people handle them well. Anyway, the fuss about Eromanga-sensei being incest was pointless, since Masamune and Sagiri are not even blood related. Then again, "the fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing." Well tbf Kiss and Sis got a lot of stick for being about incest and they're not blood related so eh IntoOpenWaters said: People dislike them because they don't separate anime from reality. I consider IRL incest to be gross, but in an anime it's "forbidden love," which is appealing. Same with lolicons; it's pedophilia. Even though it isn't hurting anyone in an anime, people still see lolis as innocent children. I really don't think it's hard to understand. I don't have a problem with incest or lolicons in anime, but in my head there is a distinct separation between animated characters (even if I'm able to empathize with them) and real life. I wouldn't be alright with incest and lolicons in a live-action movie because, for me, it's harder to distinguish that from reality. Regardless, it's not unreasonable for people to want the anime they watch to reflect their own morals. This isn't a dumb reason at all. I think this pretty much sums it up lol |
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| For dumb reasons? I think the reason people like them is even more dumb They all have shitty plot, characters and story, they usually have decent art and animation but that honestly can't save an anime |
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Short_Circut said: Haven't watched the series, but, if they are not blood related and they haven't even grown up together to consider themselves siblings, complaining about the incest seems pointless. But, well....Illyricus said: Because incest and pedophilia are very delicate themes, and not all people handle them well. Anyway, the fuss about Eromanga-sensei being incest was pointless, since Masamune and Sagiri are not even blood related. Then again, "the fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing." Well tbf Kiss and Sis got a lot of stick for being about incest and they're not blood related so eh |
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| Yeah, that's disgusting. Gtfo here, cant deal with that at all... I understand we all have our things we're into but there's only so much someone can go before their limits are reached at least you would think right...? |
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S-quare22 said: I'm talking about child adoption because you said that the only way for me to have kid is to have sex with my wife. I just proved you wrong by saying I can adopt. And how do you know if every people who likes lolis are crazy? you're generalizing here. You're the one who don't use your mind.You said: Child adoption exists. Single parent exists. How do you know? You're on a heavy blind supposition here. What if they just love each other purely? What if they don't get interested in love with other people? An most importantly, what if the said family member also love them, making it a consensual relationship? Just now narrow minded you are lol Im talking about how to have kids so why the hell are you sticking the single parents and kids in the discussion .. you asked me if we see wives as sex objects so I responded by saying that you married her not becuz you want to have fun but to have kids so ofc the two of you should do sex , in the other hand , it doesnt mean you see her as sex object so why are you talking about single parents ? If you don't have a good argument to throw then pls shut up .. when I said crazy ppl , i meant ppl who love their families sexually , it's obvious asf .. i wasn't talking about ppl who like their families normally .. the last question is out of the discussion , use something called mind and find your answer by yourself , it seems like you get out of the discussion sometimes .. |
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You said: S-quare22 said: I'm talking about child adoption because you said that the only way for me to have kid is to have sex with my wife. I just proved you wrong by saying I can adopt. And how do you know if every people who likes lolis are crazy? you're generalizing here. You're the one who don't use your mind.Im talking about how to have kids so why the hell are you sticking the single parents and kids in the discussion .. you asked me if we see wives as sex objects so I responded by saying that you married her not becuz you want to have fun but to have kids so ofc the two of you should do sex , in the other hand , it doesnt mean you see her as sex object so why are you talking about single parents ? If you don't have a good argument to throw then pls shut up .. when I said crazy ppl , i meant ppl who love their families sexually , it's obvious asf .. i wasn't talking about ppl who like their families normally .. the last question is out of the discussion , use something called mind and find your answer by yourself , it seems like you get out of the discussion sometimes .. But y'know you don't need to focus on the very little things to escape from the answer .. just do what you're supposed to do and answer correctly without messing around and searching for some stupid things to argue with ppl .. ok here I was talking about incest and not about lolis , don't tell me you haven't noticed that .. anyway , I think I answered all your questions so let's end this discussion |
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Illyricus said: "the fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing." Except that quote is being used in the context of what a person does is more important than whether or not it's born out of a sincerity or hypocrisy, and stepsibling relationships in anime are usually just a shitty way of trying to evade censors  |
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S-quare22 said: >correctYou said: I'm talking about child adoption because you said that the only way for me to have kid is to have sex with my wife. I just proved you wrong by saying I can adopt. And how do you know if every people who likes lolis are crazy? you're generalizing here. You're the one who don't use your mind. But y'know you don't need to focus on the very little things to escape from the answer .. just do what you're supposed to do and answer correctly without messing around and searching for some stupid things to argue with ppl .. ok here I was talking about incest and not about lolis , don't tell me you haven't noticed that .. anyway , I think I answered all your questions so let's end this discussion please define what is correct and whatnot. It's entirely subjective. Also you're calling all people who's in love with their siblings romantically crazy who see them as sexual object. I call it generalization. How can you know? Have you done psychology test upon all of them and electroencephalography? You need to proof it by taking sample of all people around the world who's affectionate romantically with their siblings to have psychology disorder. |
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| @Manaban @Illyricus its seems the debate will finally happen  I brought up this with Manaban before and I would say the quote refers to non real sibling relations too so Im interested on your take Illyricus |
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Manaban said: Oh, don't worry about that... Since I used that quote of one of your favourite characters on this subject on purpose since I knew you would reply to it since stepsiblings as love interest are one of the themes on fiction who triggers you the most :)Illyricus said: "the fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing." Except that quote is being used in the context of what a person does is more important than whether or not it's born out of a sincerity or hypocrisy, and stepsibling relationships in anime are usually just a shitty way of trying to evade censors |
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You said: S-quare22 said: >correctBut y'know you don't need to focus on the very little things to escape from the answer .. just do what you're supposed to do and answer correctly without messing around and searching for some stupid things to argue with ppl .. ok here I was talking about incest and not about lolis , don't tell me you haven't noticed that .. anyway , I think I answered all your questions so let's end this discussion please define what is correct and whatnot. It's entirely subjective. Also you're calling all people who's in love with their siblings romantically crazy who see them as sexual object. I call it generalization. How can you know? Have you done psychology test upon all of them and electroencephalography? You need to proof it by taking sample of all people around the world who's affectionate romantically with their siblings to have psychology disorder. It seems like you don't want to let go of me , listen to me , you pleb.. of course anyone who considers his family as sex object is officially sick and has a mental disease or mental disorder because a normal human won't think like that , I know you aren't that dumb so I bet you understood me , we don't need to do some studies to know such an obvious thing .. |
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| This argument between You and S-quare22 is actually very entertaining. |
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| @S-quare22 sometimes you dont feed those kind of people. I remember ignoring someone recently because they got butthurt because I rated Sao as 1/10 and saying its a masterpiece. When im stressed I look at that everytime. It makes my day. Still that argument escalated too much. I hope you are fine. :D |
"When you made this thread, I cried and screamed" -Swagernator 2017 |
| I think what S-quare22 is trying to say is that those who treat their family members as sex objects is a very immoral thing to do. When I say ''treat as sex objects'', I'm referring to rape or other forced sexual acts. Although there are exceptions such as a consensual relationship, however I still think it's immoral. There's several problems incest can cause such as birth defects and less genetic diversity. |
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nymi said: @S-quare22 sometimes you dont feed those kind of people. I remember ignoring someone recently because they got butthurt because I rated Sao as 1/10 and saying its a masterpiece. When im stressed I look at that everytime. It makes my day. Still that argument escalated too much. I hope you are fine. :D I don't know but sometimes I enjoy being butthurted lol .. but it's such a pain in the ass to ignore ppl , im actually really kind hearted and I can't do that :/ |
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When I see lolis, I feel like Rafiki holding up the Great Lion King Simba atop the circle of life. |
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S-quare22 said: Ugh how can you missed my point so dramatically?You said: >correct please define what is correct and whatnot. It's entirely subjective. Also you're calling all people who's in love with their siblings romantically crazy who see them as sexual object. I call it generalization. How can you know? Have you done psychology test upon all of them and electroencephalography? You need to proof it by taking sample of all people around the world who's affectionate romantically with their siblings to have psychology disorder. It seems like you don't want to let go of me , listen to me , you pleb.. of course anyone who considers his family as sex object is officially sick and has a mental disease or mental disorder because a normal human won't think like that , I know you aren't that dumb so I bet you understood me , we don't need to do some studies to know such an obvious thing .. This is what OP asks: Every time we get a loli/incest anime people hate that anime... why? And this is your original answer: S-quare22 said: I hate them because "I prefer girls over pedo material" @Aslt quote Seriously , we should not think about our family or kids as sex objects , kids are innocent and there's no need to sexualize them , our family is OUR FAMILY and not our sex objects .. Also , your shitposting skills developped alot , since when ? Your statement/hypothesis implied that: "all people who are in an incestuous relationship thinks about their family or kids as sex object (I merely reiterating what you're saying here). And your later statements added up that they're crazy as well." Now my question is: How do you proof if there's any correlations between them? How can you proof that all people who are in an incestuous relationship thinks about their family or kids as sex object and crazy? The only method to proof it is by taking samples of all people around the world who are in an incestuous relationships, and have them take a psychology test and electroencephalography to check their mental sanity (case-control observational study). Have you done all of this? I bet you don't. Since your statement implied all and not most, if there's at least 1 people who are proven to be sane and have a romantic affection towards their sibling(s), then your hypothesis of "All people who are in an incestuous relationship thinks about their family or kids as sex object and crazy." have proven to be wrong. Don't you believe that some people just don't have a special romantic bond with other people and have this said bond towards one certain member of their family instead? I'd call it pure love instead of "crazy" or "treating them as sex object". Please help me make this S-quare22 guy of understanding logic instead of just using his blind sense. |
YouSep 23, 2017 2:20 PM
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| Born too late to explore the earth, born to early too explore the galaxy but im just in time to see how this shitpost will unfold. Am I MAL- ing right? Welp. |
"When you made this thread, I cried and screamed" -Swagernator 2017 |
| Reading Umineko actually made me more skilled in arguing online lol |
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| I wouldn't mind incest anime if I could find one where the sister isn't the worst character. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
CatSoul said: I wouldn't mind incest anime if I could find one where the sister isn't the worst character. sst sagiri best grill and you know it :) |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
| another cancerous thread filled with cancerous comments and edgy "anti-morals fags". nice. |
Cyborg_Icarus29 said: another cancerous thread filled with cancerous comments and edgy "anti-morals fags". nice. Can't help it if I get a bit edgy whenever people think it isn't a dumb idea to thought police fetishization of digitally altered drawings, so I say let others unleash their edge as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
ManabanSep 23, 2017 4:25 PM
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| It's either jealousy, or they are normies |
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| Well, those are considered taboo in real life society, so.... |
| I think you're shitposting here so much you're starting think that this (MAL's) mindset is the only mindset that exists in anime LOL |
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RealmOMFG said: I think it's wrong to jump to hating an anime for something like that. But I think it's okay to not want to watch something for it's use of incest or lolicon stuff. Those themes are kinda taboo, and if someone isn't comfortable watching some guy get hands on with his sister or a 12 year old (Or his fucking 12 year old sister. *cough*Eromanga*cough*) then it's understandable and we shouldn't hold that against them. She wasn't his sister, she was his step-sister nobody will understand the disappointment of the writer of OreImo following up on his grand wincest adventure with the prudish excuse of "lol is all good dey is nawt blud related" i will not let it being acknolwedged as a legit incest anime ever come to pass, it's ridiculous to me that people do so you don't call a cigar a cigarette, you don't call a bottle of beer a glass of wine, you don't call a cat a dog, you don't call a relationship between two people with different genetic backgrounds incest it's just common sense man |
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| People avoid/hate on stuff they don't like, that's all there is to say tbh. I could care less *shrugs* |
  Ascended Taste I only came back to this site for the forum sets and to promote my RYM list... Anilist ftw still :dab: |
| because the anime community has moral fags that don't want to accept that this is fiction |
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RealmOMFG said: Manaban said: She wasn't his sister, she was his step-sister nobody will understand the disappointment of the writer of OreImo following up on his grand wincest adventure with the prudish excuse of "lol is all good dey is nawt blud related" i will not let it being acknolwedged as a legit incest anime ever come to pass, it's ridiculous to me that people do so you don't call a cigar a cigarette, you don't call a bottle of beer a glass of wine, you don't call a cat a dog, you don't call a relationship between two people with different genetic backgrounds incest it's just common sense man Yes, yes. It's not "technically" incest. But the idea still makes people feel mildly uncomfortable. I personally haven't seen it yet, and to be honest I don't know if I will get around to watching it. Though it isn't cause of the pseudo incest. Citrus is one of my favorite manga and that's 100% about step sisters getting all romantic with each other. Eromanga just doesn't seem like my cup of tea, faux incest aside. Though I will say, the reason many people don't give it a try is because they are in fact step siblings, and for the same reasons that someone wouldn't give an anime like Oreimo a shot. Despite the fact that they aren't "technically" related. I mean, I found Eromanga to be prudish and disappointing despite being something I was initially quite hyped for, so I'm not at all trying to push people to watch it whenever I say that it'd be on them for not being able to differentiate step-siblings and siblings whenever the taboo is rooted in a relationship between two people of a shared genealogical background and just mutated into this sort of weird view on it because of people like them failing to make that distinction. I mean, honestly. The difference between step-siblings and siblings is an entire genealogical history's full and if two people with different parents fucked then it wouldn't be any different than normal people fucking because it's the same deal, you know? I honestly don't see why it'd even be a big deal in that case, but to each their own I guess. I'm mostly just pissy that it's actually treated as incest moreso than them failing to make a clear distinction, though >_> I don't care if it'd put people off or they wouldn't find it interesting or it'd gross them out, I respect their boundaries and I've got no interest in forcing them to cross them, be it step-sibling or real sibling. I do care about keeping the sanctity of what incest is intact, however ._. So long as I can try to do something to shatter this misinformation that things like Eromanga count as incest then I'm going to be happy about it one way or the other. |
ManabanSep 23, 2017 7:36 PM
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Manaban said: Cyborg_Icarus29 said: another cancerous thread filled with cancerous comments and edgy "anti-morals fags". nice. Can't help it if I get a bit edgy whenever people think it isn't a dumb idea to thought police fetishization of digitally altered drawings, so I say let others unleash their edge as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hollyshit some people dislike sexualized lolis and gross incest related stories. how dare they hate this glorious stuff!! lets call them "moral fags" and insult them for having a different opinion and following a moral code. YAY! |
AyameTomoko said: Cyborg_Icarus29 said: another cancerous thread filled with cancerous comments and edgy "anti-morals fags". nice. Would you rather the comments section be filled moral busybodies instead? "moral busybodies" lol you guys keep making names up everyday. yes i would rather see people who dislike seeing sexualized lolis in the comments section. actually i would rather not see more shitty threads like this one. |
AyameTomoko said: Cyborg_Icarus29 said: "moral busybodies" lol you guys keep making names up everyday. yes i would rather see people who dislike seeing sexualized lolis in the comments section. actually i would rather not see more shitty threads like this one. That's not a new word at all, and is completely relevant to the conversion. I didn't just pull that out of my ass. Go look up what it means. People who bitch on the forum about there being that kind of stuff in anime are wholly responsible for people who watch that kind of anime bitching right back. oh i see, so it's a real word and has a real meaning. i learned something new today :3 yeah i know that. it's a chain reaction and this endless bitching from both sides is ruining the goddamned forum. |
| it's always confused me bc obviously irl incest and pedophilia etc. is morally wrong but its anime so i mean...?? do the rules even apply? conflicted. lol. but if anyone can recommend some anime that has them (and isn't super cheesy), i'll definitely keep an open mind and check it out. |
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| People generally aren't going to find sexualized little kids as sexy. People generally don't want to hear about incest. It doesn't matter if it fiction or not. If people find it gross in real life there good chance they will find it gross in fiction. |
| @you I want now to apologize to my best friend and my soulmate @nymi for not listnning to him when he said that you're a retarded shitposter that no one should take seriously I answered all your stupid questions but you still messing around and throwing some fake shit I know now why do ppl ignore you , its all because you dont understand the arguments .. I won't reply to a single dumb shit cuz its your time to use your mind , i don't know if you're a human Just look at your arguments , even a kid can do better I learned from this stupid discussion that never argue with a shitposter cuz he doesnt even know what he write Wise man once said "you know what destroys the coummunity ? It's stupid ppl who think they are clever and still beleive they right" Its like you still beleive that your arguments are good because dejkniff threw a compliment to fool such a pleb like you I want also to apologize to @swagernator for not listenning to him when he said "theres no such a thing as to argue with ppl in MAL , this site taught to just endure" well it was a good advice I will not reply to you anymore , I use logic , you dont , its painful God help you |
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S-quare22 said: Sorry but I use logic on all of these arguments. @you I want now to apologize to my best friend and my soulmate @nymi for not listnning to him when he said that you're a retarded shitposter that no one should take seriously I answered all your stupid questions but you still messing around and throwing some fake shit I know now why do ppl ignore you , its all because you dont understand the arguments .. I won't reply to a single dumb shit cuz its your time to use your mind , i don't know if you're a human Just look at your arguments , even a kid can do better I learned from this stupid discussion that never argue with a shitposter cuz he doesnt even know what he write Wise man once said "you know what destroys the coummunity ? It's stupid ppl who think they are clever and still beleive they right" Its like you still beleive that your arguments are good because dejkniff threw a compliment to fool such a pleb like you I want also to apologize to @swagernator for not listenning to him when he said "theres no such a thing as to argue with ppl in MAL , this site taught to just endure" well it was a good advice I will not reply to you anymore , I use logic , you dont , its painful God help you All the steps I'm asking is based upon 6 scientific method: https://www.google.co.id/search?client=ms-opera-mobile&dcr=0&source=hp&ei=vFLHWbPLLoXbvgSKkJegDg&q=6+scientific+method+steps&oq=6+scien&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.1.0l5.6813.23985.0.26499.22.15.6.5.5.0.572.3725.1j4j2j4j0j2.13.0....0...1.1j4.64.mobile-gws-hp..4.18.2072.3..35i39k1j0i131k1.527.dwTeqW2a5u0 1. The question is the OP post 2. The observation is what you've gathered 3. Hypothesis. Your hypothesis is "all people who are in an incestuous relationship thinks about their family or kids as sex objects and crazy." 4. Experiment, which is my question above. You failed to proof if there's a 100% correlation of people who are in an incestuous relationship thinks about their family or kids as sex objects amd crazy". Thus your argument can be proven wrong. What I said to use a case control study to prrof a hypothesis exists as a scientific method https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case-control_study You haven't proof the credibility of your argument even once, hence why I said that your statement is wrong. If you think you're using logic instead of just following your blind sense of social construct, please show me scientifically how your argument is valid and credible. If you can't, then please, just take the L. My hypothesis wins: "not all people who are in an incestuous relationship thinks about their family or kids as sex objects and crazy." But indeed, my hypothesis needs to be proved too. But in order to proof it, I only need to found 1 person who is in an incestuous relationship and thinks about their family or kids as sex objects or crazy". I actually found some of my friends far family in which live in rural area of my country, so that means I have proofed my hypothesis. Data analysis showed that the consensus will not be 100% like what you stated, hence my hypothesis passed and become a conclusive theory. If you choose to stop replying to me, then I took it as your L, as you never once tried to proof your argument. |
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Dotanuki said: he watches animeDo you seriously ask this ? what are you ? some kind of pedo ?!?! how can you not see the wrongness of lolicon. It's pedo, those loli characters are just children, it's child abuse. this is an anime forum his avatar is natsu from fairy tail |
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