| I've recently discovered that almost all romantic anime has really unrealistic romance relationships. The characters are both good looking and popular with the other sex, have great personalities with sad pasts and such. Their interactions are as unrealistic as it gets. So herre's the deal: I'd like to 'meet' characters with a realistic relationship one would see in real life. The closest example, although not the best I can get is Okazaki x Nagisa from Clannad. I just can't find a better example for what I'm looking for. |
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| is this irony? Literally everything you said is a perfect description of Okazaki/Nagisa. Key anime in general are extremely guilty of these unrealistic characters, where everyone always has a sad past but a bright future and interactions are somewhere between superficial and melodramatic. So yeah I'm really not sure what to recommend you. The thing you want and the thing you want to avoid are both kind of the same. In any case you will not find non-good-looking romance protagonists very often. Not in anime, not in most mediums. In terms of realistic interactions and developments I personally value Nana, Genshiken, Honey & Clover, Beck and some others highly in that regard, but I also think Clannad and key works in general are about the worst anime has to offer in terms of realistic and believable romance and drama so idk. |
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Pullman said: is this irony? Literally everything you said is a perfect description of Okazaki/Nagisa. Key anime in general are extremely guilty of these unrealistic characters, where everyone always has a sad past but a bright future and interactions are somewhere between superficial and melodramatic. So yeah I'm really not sure what to recommend you. The thing you want and the thing you want to avoid are both kind of the same. In any case you will not find non-good-looking romance protagonists very often. Not in anime, not in most mediums. In terms of realistic interactions and developments I personally value Nana, Genshiken, Honey & Clover, Beck and some others highly in that regard, but I also think Clannad and key works in general are about the worst anime has to offer in terms of realistic and believable romance and drama so idk. Well as I said it's not a perfect example, and you are right. What I find realistic in their relationship is the respect they have for each other and especially the future part, the bit before Ushio. I know it's kind of contradicting but hell it's hard to describe properly what I'm looking for. I have already seen Honey and Clover and sorry but there are not so many relationships in that show to be honest. They are mostly one-sided crushes, which I kind of hate. |
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| Takeo Gouda and Rinko Yamato from Ore Monogatari have a more realistic high school romance than most other high school anime couples. |
Darek said: Well koi kaze (although I have not seen the anime and I am far from finishing the manga) I think kinda applies Thanks, I've added it to my plan to watch. Might try the manga first though. |
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| Golden Time is the next best thing that I remember off the top of my head. |
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Haneken2086 said: Try Ore Monogatari. It's got characters who are fairly down to earth. No no no that show is the polar opposite of what I'm looking for haha. I know I said that I'm looking for realistic stuff, but aside from looking like a gorilla, Mc-kun is a Marty Stu. Not to talk about girlfriend-chan who can't seem to unlove the gorilla. That's not how life works sadly DemiDarkrai said: Watch these 3 Anime movies (If you want too) : 5 Centimeters Per Second Wind Rises The Garden of Words I was planning on watching the wind rises for my 550th anime, so that will wait, as for the rest I have already seen and they qualify perfectly for what I'm looking for. Thanks. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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its been a while since I watched Lovely Complex but would anyone also recommend the show now that I mention it? |
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| Maybe try "I can't understand what my husband is saying" might be something for you. No big drama, only the girl is handsome. |
komet3 said: Golden Time is the next best thing that I remember off the top of my head. Well, Banri is a painfully down to earth average guy, and a girl falls for him because he's "kind". Every anime romance builds on these cliches sadly, so I would call it rrr Deknijff said: its been a while since I watched Lovely Complex but would anyone also recommend the show now that I mention it? Nice I was looking forward to watching this show to be honest. I'll jump right at it after jojo. I've heard good things and have seen some episodes as it was airing on Animax. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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oryouohagi said: DemiDarkrai said: Watch these 3 Anime movies (If you want too) : 5 Centimeters Per Second Wind Rises The Garden of Words I was planning on watching the wind rises for my 550th anime, so that will wait, as for the rest I have already seen and they qualify perfectly for what I'm looking for. Thanks. No problemo. Wind Rises is a good movie, I highly recommend |
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oryouohagi said: willsygle said: That's a sarcasm right xD I feel for you mate. I have been bullied by some fangirls because of that (ಠ◡ಠ) It has nothing to do with my post, but I also love Cross Game and Kumiko. Oh sorry for that. Yeah Cross Game is really a great hidden gem that hard to find. ---------------------------------------------------------------- For the anime, I think I can recommend "True Tears" or Sukitte Ii Nayo |
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Bourmegar said: Maybe try "I can't understand what my husband is saying" might be something for you. No big drama, only the girl is handsome. It was a nice show without over the top drama or plot. I loved the characters and yeah their relationship is kind of realistic. Thanks. |
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oryouohagi said: well I hope you end up enjoying the show and Im glad I reminded you of itDeknijff said: Nice I was looking forward to watching this show to be honest. I'll jump right at it after jojo. its been a while since I watched Lovely Complex but would anyone also recommend the show now that I mention it? I've heard good things and have seen some episodes as it was airing on Animax. Darek said: you mean slow Darek?Deknijff said: I wouldn't,it is kinda dragged and I had to drop it.its been a while since I watched Lovely Complex but would anyone also recommend the show now that I mention it? [img]http://i.imgur.com/jYdlkOe.jpg[*/img] |
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willsygle said: Oh sorry for that. Yeah Cross Game is really a great hidden gem that hard to find. ---------------------------------------------------------------- For the anime, I think I can recommend "True Tears" or Sukitte Ii Nayo I was planning on watching each and every show of P.A. works anyways so I'll take that one. Sukitte ii nayo is one of my most hated anime. I just hate how that playboy goes for the plain girl just for the heck of it. I don't consider it realistic at all |
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oryouohagi said: I've recently discovered that almost all romantic anime has really unrealistic romance relationships. The characters are both good looking and popular with the other sex, have great personalities with sad pasts and such. Their interactions are as unrealistic as it gets. Would you be happier if they had deeply flawed personalities like in Haganai or Konosuba? |
Oxydiz said: What you're looking for is very hard to find in anything but books (and real life, obviously). As far as anime goes you could try Kaze Tachinu. The characters are pretty idealized but the relationship itself develops in a (mostly) believable fashion. NHK ni Youkoso also features a slower paced relationship and is great overall so I'd recommend watching it. I watched Parasyte a long time ago but if I remember correctly the relationship isn't too romanticised. Overall the show is very action-packed though. Yeah I've seen parasyte and NHK ni youkoso, but I never considered them to be romantic anime haha. As for wind rises, I've already mentioned that I'm going to watch it as my 550th anime. Thanks for the advice flannan said: oryouohagi said: I've recently discovered that almost all romantic anime has really unrealistic romance relationships. The characters are both good looking and popular with the other sex, have great personalities with sad pasts and such. Their interactions are as unrealistic as it gets. Would you be happier if they had deeply flawed personalities like in Haganai or Konosuba? That would be awesome, although I'd probably get tired of them as I did of these unrealistic things. It's an interesting argument though. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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Darek said: Deknijff said: its been a while since I watched Lovely Complex but would anyone also recommend the show now that I mention it? [img]http://i.imgur.com/jYdlkOe.jpg[*/img] I wouldn't,it is kinda dragged and I had to drop it. I barely drop anything nowadays so it shouldn't pose a problem for me. Thanks for the advice though |
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Darek said: ok I see Deknijff said: I guess but I'd rather say dragged, to me at least it seemed like they have been putting it away (them getting together), for a series where the romance is only thing I care about, 24 episodes may be a little too much.you mean slow Darek? I hardly remember anything from the series honestly but I do at least remember moments when I felt they could just get together right on the spot yet they didn't |
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harryschmotter said: Takeo Gouda and Rinko Yamato from Ore Monogatari have a more realistic high school romance than most other high school anime couples. As I said, I think of it as one of the most unrealistic romances ever. I don't believe in unconditional love, so the whole show is a big pile of smoking shenanigans for me sadly. I just can't help but wonder why would someone like Rinko fall and go out for a long time with a guy like Takeo. I have trust issues so that could be a root, honestly I don't even trust dogs. They seem like big schemers looking for my food and just act like they are happy when they see me to get food out of me. Cats are assholes with me, so I love them. |
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| White Album 1 Kare Kano oryouohagi said: komet3 said: Golden Time is the next best thing that I remember off the top of my head. Well, Banri is a painfully down to earth average guy, and a girl falls for him because he's "kind". Every anime romance builds on these cliches sadly, so I would call it rrr He's also the one who initiated the relationship to begin with. Had a deep conversation with Koko about insecurities and confessed to her on the same night. Banri is more than your milktoast lead. |
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oryouohagi said: I've recently discovered that almost all romantic anime has really unrealistic romance relationships. The characters are both good looking and popular with the other sex, have great personalities with sad pasts and such. Their interactions are as unrealistic as it gets. So herre's the deal: I'd like to 'meet' characters with a realistic relationship one would see in real life. The closest example, although not the best I can get is Okazaki x Nagisa from Clannad. I just can't find a better example for what I'm looking for. Nana without any doubt,this show is a perfect example of real life also the romance is very mature not teenagers school crap just watch it you won't be disappointed :) |
Consumed said: White Album 1 Kare Kano oryouohagi said: Well, Banri is a painfully down to earth average guy, and a girl falls for him because he's "kind". Every anime romance builds on these cliches sadly, so I would call it rrr He's also the one who initiated the relationship to begin with. Had a deep conversation with Koko about insecurities and confessed to her on the same night. Banri is more than your milktoast lead. I'll take your recommendations. In mosts shows with 'milktoast' leads, these 'milktoast' leads do the confessing part to be honest. So I don't think that serves as an argument here. He's not much of a character, just your dime a dozen kind of MC. |
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oryouohagi said: I have already seen Honey and Clover and sorry but there are not so many relationships in that show to be honest. They are mostly one-sided crushes, which I kind of hate. Well it's realistic because of that, sadly you can't always end with the one you like. Maybe you should try Touch or Cross Game, there is Omoide Poroporo that i love. |
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CaroleDuh said: oryouohagi said: I've recently discovered that almost all romantic anime has really unrealistic romance relationships. The characters are both good looking and popular with the other sex, have great personalities with sad pasts and such. Their interactions are as unrealistic as it gets. So herre's the deal: I'd like to 'meet' characters with a realistic relationship one would see in real life. The closest example, although not the best I can get is Okazaki x Nagisa from Clannad. I just can't find a better example for what I'm looking for. Nana without any doubt,this show is a perfect example of real life also the romance is very mature not teenagers school crap just watch it you won't be disappointed :) I've seen some episodes back in 2010, but I guess I'll have to pick it up from the beginning. It's just that I'm not all into it's style so it does not enjoy a high priority on my list. Thanks for the recommendation Oxydiz said: oryouohagi said: [...] I never considered them to be romantic anime [...] Yeah because they're not :P Usually when romance is the main focus of a show (or book, or movie) it quickly becomes unrealistic. The reason is fairly simple : it's the interest curve. If the relationship doesn't one-up itself regularly most of the audience is going to drop the story. So you end up with shows where the characters do exciting stuff all the time and are always happy and what not. That's why I think the most interesting romances are found in works that don't revolve around them. That's a well rounded opinion you have there.To side with that argument, I'll bring up Stella x Ikki from chivalry, although it's not an all out romance anime, I find their relationship interesting, as unrealistic as it is. Johnnyd3rp said: oryouohagi said: I have already seen Honey and Clover and sorry but there are not so many relationships in that show to be honest. They are mostly one-sided crushes, which I kind of hate. Well it's realistic because of that, sadly you can't always end with the one you like. Maybe you shoul try Touch or Cross Game, there is Omoide Poroporo that i love. Yeah they are realistic but they are not relationships. That's my problem I was planning on watching touch for a while as I'm a baseball fan. Another reason to do so then. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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oryouohagi said: CaroleDuh said: Nana without any doubt,this show is a perfect example of real life also the romance is very mature not teenagers school crap just watch it you won't be disappointed :) I've seen some episodes back in 2010, but I guess I'll have to pick it up from the beginning. It's just that I'm not all into it's style so it does not enjoy a high priority on my list. Thanks for the recommendation I know what you mean I was reluctant to watch just because of the art and at first I was very distracted by it however after few eps I simply got used to it :) |
| In terms of anime, a realistic one is pretty rare. Koi Kaze is an exception. But there's tons of manga with that kind of realism. Koi Kaze is definitely one of em. A very realistic take on broXsis romance. 4 more manga you can check out are: 1) https://myanimelist.net/manga/11734/Watashitachi_no_Shiawase_na_Jikan 2) https://myanimelist.net/manga/83655/Perfect_World 3) https://myanimelist.net/manga/3731/Solanin 4) https://myanimelist.net/manga/26736/Taiyou_no_Ie I haven't read the ones I listed with numbers but I've read Koi Kaze and I watched the anime and both are excellent in its exploration of the subject matter. The manga has a few more details here and there but the anime is just as great of adaptation of the manga. I recommend that you view both |
| I would advise Genshiken but I don't think the anime goes further enough to really give everything it should. Never read it nor watched it (though I'll come to the anime, someday!) but isn't Kare Kano a good choice for your description? (asking to people who saw it) In general, manga might be a better place to search. |
oryouohagi said: Consumed said: White Album 1 Kare Kano He's also the one who initiated the relationship to begin with. Had a deep conversation with Koko about insecurities and confessed to her on the same night. Banri is more than your milktoast lead. I'll take your recommendations. In mosts shows with 'milktoast' leads, these 'milktoast' leads do the confessing part to be honest. So I don't think that serves as an argument here. He's not much of a character, just your dime a dozen kind of MC. I wish. Not enough MC's who will both realize their feelings and confess early on. This says nothing of his complex trauma What I was getting at though was how Koko fell for him. It wasn't just that he was nice, but that he was there for her after a tough reality check, able to relate to her issues about being alone and bold enough to initiate a relationship. Lot of anime out there with a couple who are together for lame forgettable reasons, but not those two. |
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Consumed said: oryouohagi said: I'll take your recommendations. In mosts shows with 'milktoast' leads, these 'milktoast' leads do the confessing part to be honest. So I don't think that serves as an argument here. He's not much of a character, just your dime a dozen kind of MC. I wish. Not enough MC's who will both realize their feelings and confess early on. This says nothing of his complex trauma What I was getting at though was how Koko fell for him. It wasn't just that he was nice, but that he was there for her after a tough reality check, able to relate to her issues about being alone and bold enough to initiate a relationship. Lot of anime out there with a couple who are together for lame forgettable reasons, but not those two. Banri is a nice guy, the kind you can find on the internet with a weight over 100 kilos and a fedora they often tip. Guys like him never get the girl like ever. As for his amnesia, it's not that complex, it was done a number of times before Golden Time. Rei366 said: I would advise Genshiken but I don't think the anime goes further enough to really give everything it should. Never read it nor watched it (though I'll come to the anime, someday!) but isn't Kare Kano a good choice for your description? (asking to people who saw it) In general, manga might be a better place to search. Well there are like ten times more manga than anime so you are right on that one haha. As for genshiken I'll try to watch it anew, I tried to do so in the past but failed. I couldn't digest it's style. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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oryouohagi said: Consumed said: I wish. Not enough MC's who will both realize their feelings and confess early on. This says nothing of his complex trauma What I was getting at though was how Koko fell for him. It wasn't just that he was nice, but that he was there for her after a tough reality check, able to relate to her issues about being alone and bold enough to initiate a relationship. Lot of anime out there with a couple who are together for lame forgettable reasons, but not those two. Banri is a nice guy, the kind you can find on the internet with a weight over 100 kilos and a fedora they often tip. Guys like him never get the girl like ever. As for his amnesia, it's not that complex, it was done a number of times before Golden Time. Yeah they do. Saying otherwise just speaks from a lack of experience, plenty of girls are interested in nice guys who are there for them and have the courage to tell them how they feel especially when that girl is lonely. They were also both in college together. Things done before Golden Time doesn't make them commonplace for the genre. These guys on the internet wish they had half the confidence of Banri. |
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Consumed said: oryouohagi said: Banri is a nice guy, the kind you can find on the internet with a weight over 100 kilos and a fedora they often tip. Guys like him never get the girl like ever. As for his amnesia, it's not that complex, it was done a number of times before Golden Time. Yeah they do. Saying otherwise just speaks from a lack of experience, plenty of girls are interested in nice guys who are there for them and have the courage to tell them how they feel especially when that girl is lonely. They were also both in college together. Things done before Golden Time doesn't make them commonplace for the genre. These guys on the internet wish they had half the confidence of Banri. Nope sadly it's from experience. I'm a rather emotional person and I couldn't hold any girl for long. They just get tired from emotional guys real fast. As for Banri having balls, you are right. It's just hard to confess yourself and obviously the fedora tipping types are not cut out for the task. |
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oryouohagi said: Consumed said: Yeah they do. Saying otherwise just speaks from a lack of experience, plenty of girls are interested in nice guys who are there for them and have the courage to tell them how they feel especially when that girl is lonely. They were also both in college together. Things done before Golden Time doesn't make them commonplace for the genre. These guys on the internet wish they had half the confidence of Banri. Nope sadly it's from experience. I'm a rather emotional person and I couldn't hold any girl for long. They just get tired from emotional guys real fast. As for Banri having balls, you are right. It's just hard to confess yourself and obviously the fedora tipping types are not cut out for the task. Ur gonna find the right one eventually who's best compatible with you. He actually did lose Koko for a while because his emotions were out of control, but they were able to overcome that because they were meant for one another. Yep confessions are hard and they're almost always built up to be the climax of a romance story. kudos to the MC that can take care of it early on if at all |
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komet3 said: Golden Time is the next best thing that I remember off the top of my head. Yeah, sadly this is as realistic as it gets. MC goes for stupid shallow abusive tantrum-throwing bimbo bitch w/ annoying-to-the-max personality who falls for the nice guy who was only a little plaything for her in the beginning while best supportive girl with a heart of gold who just doesn't have the courage to confess gets sidelined... welcome to the real world, OP! |
fluffy_mausJan 8, 2017 12:39 PM
| I think Paradise kiss would be good if you don't mind shoujo. Graphic is artistic, because everything happens in fashion industry, but relationships and interactions between MCs looks like they could take place in real world. |
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| I can recommend Akagami no Shirayukihime. The relationship develops over time and they don't fall for another just because. Ore Monogatari and Koi Kaze are some of the least fitting examples of good/realistic romance in my opinion. |
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Pullman said: is this irony? Literally everything you said is a perfect description of Okazaki/Nagisa. Key anime in general are extremely guilty of these unrealistic characters, where everyone always has a sad past but a bright future and interactions are somewhere between superficial and melodramatic. I don't see how this is true. Okazaki is... "popular" I guess, the sort of popular that makes a few girls show some degree of attraction towards him, but never entering the harem zone, at least in the anime. But he definitely does not have a good personality, he is lazy and unmotivated for starters, and remains like this for a long while. And he is also very resentful and immature. This is emphasized a lot and very well specially regarding his ties with his father. Nagisa on the other hand is cute and personality-wise almost unrealistically pure and naïve, which is both displayed as a positive (as adorable/cutesy charm bait) and a negative (as something that the character is well aware of, makes her life more difficult and wants to change) in the series. She is socially awkward to the extreme, her physical weakness actually comes off as a hurdle more often than not, and she is shown to try and intend to get over these traits through the show. I mean, Clannad is not what I'd call realistic but the main couple are far from perfect, and part of the charm of this couple is that they complement their respective defects to the point that they are not able to function properly in their social context on their own. |
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| Your description of what you find unrealistic sounds more like reality to me socially and psychologically, but try these I guess?: Snow White with the Red Hair From Up on Poppy Hill Whisper of the Heart Lovely Complex Itazuma no Kiss Ef- A Tale of Memories/Melodies Rumbling Hearts Kimi ni Todoke |
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Kruszer said: Your description of what you find unrealistic sounds more like reality to me socially and psychologically, but try these I guess?: Snow White with the Red Hair From Up on Poppy Hill Whisper of the Heart Lovely Complex Itazuma no Kiss Ef- A Tale of Memories/Melodies Rumbling Hearts Kimi ni Todoke Yeah I was laughing at the OP's description of what they found unrealistic because I was like "oh my relationship? where I fell in love at first sight, had him move in with me on the first day, and yes I married him and did I mention we are both attractive yaoi fans?" lol. And I think the start of my relationship was most like Gravitation. And our relationship lately has been more like Yuri on Ice. And pre my husband my relationships with people were most like Neon Genesis Evangelion. Seriously... I was so fucked up. And any good relationship should make one into a better person. So happy my husband did that for me. |
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