Mayoiga Episode 5 Discussion

Apr 30, 2016 9:01 AM

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Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:

A cliffhanger is not a "lazy plot device" it has been used in countless classic works of literature dating back hundreds of years.
The cast is shallow because many of them (I assume) are merely there to die, to be cannon fodder. They don't have time to develop nearly 30 characters in a mere 12 episodes so the characters have to be super tropey so we can immediately know their personalities.
"I see dead people" is a line from The Sixth Sense, a critically acclaimed movie.

Now sit back down you philistine :p

First of all, I'd like you to name a single acclaimed literary work that employs cliffhangers.

Second, the point is that they shouldn't have had 30 characters in the first place, or if they did, they shouldn't have tried to give all of them equal screen time and also take a quarter of the first episode to establish who they are and what their motivations are. We don't need to see what every single character is doing because it doesn't matter. You don't need personalities for what eventually amount to fodder. However, this show decides to place emphasis on this point, leading to an incredibly underdeveloped main cast. It also wastes screen time and leads to this show moving along at a snail's pace.

Third, I know it's from the Sixth Sense. That doesn't make it a good line. It's oddly placed, lacking contextually, and on top of that it's stolen from a better work. If I made a show where the characters had no dialogue except quotes from various critically acclaimed films, would that mean I wrote a work of genius? No, it'd be a shallow, shitty, extremely derivative work, sort of like this show.

Dickens, Caroll, Shelley and Poe all used cliffhangers in their works.

Battle Royale had around 30 characters on a bus, most of whom had little character and were only ever intended to die, and that's hailed as a classic

I agree it was a bad line, but so what? Did it really destroy the show for you.

Apr 30, 2016 9:02 AM

#152

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Lovepon needs to go. She was annoying this episode. Hopefully her backstory will shed some light on why she is like that though.
That giant penguin looking thing at the end though.. O.O

Apr 30, 2016 9:03 AM

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Dude, what the hell? o_O That ending caught me off guard.
I guess I didn't miss anything so far, since people here seem to be confused as well.

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Apr 30, 2016 9:29 AM

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Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

First of all, I'd like you to name a single acclaimed literary work that employs cliffhangers.

Second, the point is that they shouldn't have had 30 characters in the first place, or if they did, they shouldn't have tried to give all of them equal screen time and also take a quarter of the first episode to establish who they are and what their motivations are. We don't need to see what every single character is doing because it doesn't matter. You don't need personalities for what eventually amount to fodder. However, this show decides to place emphasis on this point, leading to an incredibly underdeveloped main cast. It also wastes screen time and leads to this show moving along at a snail's pace.

Third, I know it's from the Sixth Sense. That doesn't make it a good line. It's oddly placed, lacking contextually, and on top of that it's stolen from a better work. If I made a show where the characters had no dialogue except quotes from various critically acclaimed films, would that mean I wrote a work of genius? No, it'd be a shallow, shitty, extremely derivative work, sort of like this show.

Dickens, Caroll, Shelley and Poe all used cliffhangers in their works.

Battle Royale had around 30 characters on a bus, most of whom had little character and were only ever intended to die, and that's hailed as a classic

I agree it was a bad line, but so what? Did it really destroy the show for you.

First of all, I said name a work. You haven't done that. Beyond that, a cliffhanger in an episodic work such as this cannot even be compared to literary works with no intention of continuation. Those works utilize ambiguity to allow the reader to come to his own conclusion analytically or to further the central dogma of the novel. None of them end halfway through an event, making it necessary to read David Copperfield 2: Electric Boogaloo to figure out what happens next. Beyond that, these cliffhangers aren't even well executed. Most of them are simply forgotten about or swept under the rug in the next episode before moving on to something else. Oh yeah, that one dude was floating in the river. Better go look for him for about five minutes, then go back to the camp to argue some more.

Second, Battle Royale is a film that does exactly what I described: It doesn't have to show what every single character is doing at every single moment. Beyond that, it's fodder characters still manage to develop a decent amount of depth in their limited screen time, and enough of the film is dedicated to the main cast that their characterization doesn't suffer. Mayoiga does none of this. As I've mentioned, having a large cast can be done well if handled by a competent director who can manage his characters. Unfortunately for Mayoiga, the director is neither capable of handling a large cast, nor even remotely competent.

Third, no one line did not ruin the show for me. The rest of them did though. That was simply an example of the horrible dialogue that pervades every single scene of this show. There was also the characters, the visual design, the opening, the plot progression, and the character logic. All of it is piss poor and all of it ruins the show.

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Apr 30, 2016 9:54 AM

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I think the one thing I do enjoy about this series is that I can imagine these people gathering from an internet forum. So when I read comments on the series I try to cast the posters as one of the characters. :P Aside from that, yeah, the way pretty much everyone is acting has me just rolling my eyes and desperately hoping something awful does happen.

Apr 30, 2016 10:02 AM

#156

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Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:
I feel like this show got a bad rep early on and now people are just blindly not giving it a chance. It manages to keep me entertained and always ends the episode in a compelling cliffhanger that makes you want to see what happens next. And those should be considered some of the hallmarks of a good mystery show.

A cliffhanger is compelling by nature. It's a lazy plot device used by bad writers who can't write a show that is interesting on it's own, so they show half of an important event in one episode and then just put the other half in the next episode so you have to watch it.
Cliffhangers are a hallmark of a bad mystery.
Beyond that, the character logic is redundant and contradictory, not to mention stupid.
The cast is generic and shallow, and the show has more characters than it knows what to do with.
The dialogue is B-movie bad. Like, The Room bad. "I see dead people." I had to pause and bury my face in my hand for a few minutes. My god. "I actually see people who are going to die." So do I. Every single day. What a retarded line.

A cliffhanger is not a "lazy plot device" it has been used in countless classic works of literature dating back hundreds of years.
The cast is shallow because many of them (I assume) are merely there to die, to be cannon fodder. They don't have time to develop nearly 30 characters in a mere 12 episodes so the characters have to be super tropey so we can immediately know their personalities.
"I see dead people" is a line from The Sixth Sense, a critically acclaimed movie.

Now sit back down you philistine :p

First of all, I'd like you to name a single acclaimed literary work that employs cliffhangers.

Second, the point is that they shouldn't have had 30 characters in the first place, or if they did, they shouldn't have tried to give all of them equal screen time and also take a quarter of the first episode to establish who they are and what their motivations are. We don't need to see what every single character is doing because it doesn't matter. You don't need personalities for what eventually amount to fodder. However, this show decides to place emphasis on this point, leading to an incredibly underdeveloped main cast. It also wastes screen time and leads to this show moving along at a snail's pace.

Third, I know it's from the Sixth Sense. That doesn't make it a good line. It's oddly placed, lacking contextually, and on top of that it's stolen from a better work. If I made a show where the characters had no dialogue except quotes from various critically acclaimed films, would that mean I wrote a work of genius? No, it'd be a shallow, shitty, extremely derivative work, sort of like this show.

Dickens, Caroll, Shelley and Poe all used cliffhangers in their works.

Battle Royale had around 30 characters on a bus, most of whom had little character and were only ever intended to die, and that's hailed as a classic

I agree it was a bad line, but so what? Did it really destroy the show for you.

First of all, I said name a work. You haven't done that. Beyond that, a cliffhanger in an episodic work such as this cannot even be compared to literary works with no intention of continuation. Those works utilize ambiguity to allow the reader to come to his own conclusion analytically or to further the central dogma of the novel. None of them end halfway through an event, making it necessary to read David Copperfield 2: Electric Boogaloo to figure out what happens next. Beyond that, these cliffhangers aren't even well executed. Most of them are simply forgotten about or swept under the rug in the next episode before moving on to something else. Oh yeah, that one dude was floating in the river. Better go look for him for about five minutes, then go back to the camp to argue some more.

Second, Battle Royale is a film that does exactly what I described: It doesn't have to show what every single character is doing at every single moment. Beyond that, it's fodder characters still manage to develop a decent amount of depth in their limited screen time, and enough of the film is dedicated to the main cast that their characterization doesn't suffer. Mayoiga does none of this. As I've mentioned, having a large cast can be done well if handled by a competent director who can manage his characters. Unfortunately for Mayoiga, the director is neither capable of handling a large cast, nor even remotely competent.

Third, no one line did not ruin the show for me. The rest of them did though. That was simply an example of the horrible dialogue that pervades every single scene of this show. There was also the characters, the visual design, the opening, the plot progression, and the character logic. All of it is piss poor and all of it ruins the show.

Do you actually want me to sit there and name works by these authors? well fine, Great Expectations, Frankenstein, A Christmas Carol, in fact all of Dickens' shorts and all of Poe's Dupont mysteries.

What are you talking about, Battle Royale constantly cuts between character groups to show what everyone is doing.

I already said I'm not trying to defend this line and yes the dialogue is corny, but this is clearly meant to be corn-ball schlock. And mark my words in a few episodes it's gonna go from cornball schlock to gore filled exploitation schlock...and that's just fine with me.

Apr 30, 2016 10:05 AM

#157

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Ok now it's a giant bird? penguin? this is getting so ridiculous

Apr 30, 2016 10:58 AM

#158

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I love how previously we were all trying to come up with serious theories about what was going to happen, and then this episode happens and drags us more or less back to square one. I honestly don't even have a single idea about where this is going to go. It's still really enjoyable though.

Apr 30, 2016 11:04 AM

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Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:
I feel like this show got a bad rep early on and now people are just blindly not giving it a chance. It manages to keep me entertained and always ends the episode in a compelling cliffhanger that makes you want to see what happens next. And those should be considered some of the hallmarks of a good mystery show.

A cliffhanger is compelling by nature. It's a lazy plot device used by bad writers who can't write a show that is interesting on it's own, so they show half of an important event in one episode and then just put the other half in the next episode so you have to watch it.
Cliffhangers are a hallmark of a bad mystery.
Beyond that, the character logic is redundant and contradictory, not to mention stupid.
The cast is generic and shallow, and the show has more characters than it knows what to do with.
The dialogue is B-movie bad. Like, The Room bad. "I see dead people." I had to pause and bury my face in my hand for a few minutes. My god. "I actually see people who are going to die." So do I. Every single day. What a retarded line.

A cliffhanger is not a "lazy plot device" it has been used in countless classic works of literature dating back hundreds of years.
The cast is shallow because many of them (I assume) are merely there to die, to be cannon fodder. They don't have time to develop nearly 30 characters in a mere 12 episodes so the characters have to be super tropey so we can immediately know their personalities.
"I see dead people" is a line from The Sixth Sense, a critically acclaimed movie.

Now sit back down you philistine :p

First of all, I'd like you to name a single acclaimed literary work that employs cliffhangers.

Second, the point is that they shouldn't have had 30 characters in the first place, or if they did, they shouldn't have tried to give all of them equal screen time and also take a quarter of the first episode to establish who they are and what their motivations are. We don't need to see what every single character is doing because it doesn't matter. You don't need personalities for what eventually amount to fodder. However, this show decides to place emphasis on this point, leading to an incredibly underdeveloped main cast. It also wastes screen time and leads to this show moving along at a snail's pace.

Third, I know it's from the Sixth Sense. That doesn't make it a good line. It's oddly placed, lacking contextually, and on top of that it's stolen from a better work. If I made a show where the characters had no dialogue except quotes from various critically acclaimed films, would that mean I wrote a work of genius? No, it'd be a shallow, shitty, extremely derivative work, sort of like this show.

Dickens, Caroll, Shelley and Poe all used cliffhangers in their works.

Battle Royale had around 30 characters on a bus, most of whom had little character and were only ever intended to die, and that's hailed as a classic

I agree it was a bad line, but so what? Did it really destroy the show for you.

First of all, I said name a work. You haven't done that. Beyond that, a cliffhanger in an episodic work such as this cannot even be compared to literary works with no intention of continuation. Those works utilize ambiguity to allow the reader to come to his own conclusion analytically or to further the central dogma of the novel. None of them end halfway through an event, making it necessary to read David Copperfield 2: Electric Boogaloo to figure out what happens next. Beyond that, these cliffhangers aren't even well executed. Most of them are simply forgotten about or swept under the rug in the next episode before moving on to something else. Oh yeah, that one dude was floating in the river. Better go look for him for about five minutes, then go back to the camp to argue some more.

Second, Battle Royale is a film that does exactly what I described: It doesn't have to show what every single character is doing at every single moment. Beyond that, it's fodder characters still manage to develop a decent amount of depth in their limited screen time, and enough of the film is dedicated to the main cast that their characterization doesn't suffer. Mayoiga does none of this. As I've mentioned, having a large cast can be done well if handled by a competent director who can manage his characters. Unfortunately for Mayoiga, the director is neither capable of handling a large cast, nor even remotely competent.

Third, no one line did not ruin the show for me. The rest of them did though. That was simply an example of the horrible dialogue that pervades every single scene of this show. There was also the characters, the visual design, the opening, the plot progression, and the character logic. All of it is piss poor and all of it ruins the show.

Do you actually want me to sit there and name works by these authors? well fine, Great Expectations, Frankenstein, A Christmas Carol, in fact all of Dickens' shorts and all of Poe's Dupont mysteries.

What are you talking about, Battle Royale constantly cuts between character groups to show what everyone is doing.

I already said I'm not trying to defend this line and yes the dialogue is corny, but this is clearly meant to be corn-ball schlock. And mark my words in a few episodes it's gonna go from cornball schlock to gore filled exploitation schlock...and that's just fine with me.

Those works are intended to be read as a whole though, they were only released in serialized volumes to make them accessible to a wider range of readers. Beyond that, the cliffhangers in those works are actually resolved well and manage to add to the narrative rather than simply exist.

Battle Royale does cut between characters, yes. However, those glimpses are short and sweet, giving us insight into the character's psyche and their personality. A five second shot of a naked girl walking away from two corpses, accompanied by a white text stating the names of the two killed, gives us more information in mere seconds than Mayioga's transitions do in five minutes.

Beyond that, yeah, the show is terrible. Just because the show is supposed to be terrible doesn't make it any less terrible. If you enjoy it, fine. But don't go around saying it has the hallmarks of a great mystery.

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Apr 30, 2016 11:08 AM

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I still can't understand why Lovepon has, not only freedom after her murder attemp, but the "smart people", more like the idiots who think they are intelligent, are following what she orders.
FFS a guy attacked another boy in highschool and gets imprisoned again for nothing, but this girl not only tries to kill someone, actually has torture tools and they let her do what she wants? I'd be scared of being near, but well, seeing that almost 3 minutes of the episode are "why should we call the dead guy" whatever, this is a comedy.

Lion: "I can see ghost" pffhahhahf
Lion: "Actually, I can see those who are going to die" hahahahah
I didn't expect this show would make me pause it to laugh.

Sukebe14 said:
That other guy was locked for attempted murder but total psycho lovepon, that did the same, is allowed to walk free?...okayyyy

When I watched first ep I expected serious, psychological, horror anime similar to "Another" , but apparantly its one of those "so bad that it's good" types

But this is actually another 2.0.
Both fails in the same points, both are more a comedy than a mistery and both have a MC that needs to die in extremely agony.

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Apr 30, 2016 11:13 AM

#161

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@Evangeliman
We obviously aren't going to agree and if you don't like the show that's fine, hell I don't think it's particularly good either but a lot of the hate it gets is entirely undeserved.
And I'll never accept that a cliffhanger a lazy plot device, it's a long standing and legitimate plot device. Do you think critics ever complain that shows like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones use cliffhangers? No, they rightly praise them for keeping the audience hooked.

Apr 30, 2016 11:18 AM

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Bobby2Hands said:
@Evangeliman
We obviously aren't going to agree and if you don't like the show that's fine, hell I don't think it's particularly good either but a lot of the hate it gets is entirely undeserved.
And I'll never accept that a cliffhanger a lazy plot device, it's a long standing and legitimate plot device. Do you think critics ever complain that shows like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones use cliffhangers? No, they rightly praise them for keeping the audience hooked.

Ugh. Those are shows that are praised and also happen to have cliffhangers. They are not shows praised for their cliffhangers. A good work utilizing a shitty narrative device does not make that device good at all.

This is man's ultimate fighting machine. The synthetic life form know as Evangelion, Unit 01. Built here in secret, it is mankind’s last hope.

Apr 30, 2016 11:26 AM

#163

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Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:
@Evangeliman
We obviously aren't going to agree and if you don't like the show that's fine, hell I don't think it's particularly good either but a lot of the hate it gets is entirely undeserved.
And I'll never accept that a cliffhanger a lazy plot device, it's a long standing and legitimate plot device. Do you think critics ever complain that shows like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones use cliffhangers? No, they rightly praise them for keeping the audience hooked.

Ugh. Those are shows that are praised and also happen to have cliffhangers. They are not shows praised for their cliffhangers. A good work utilizing a shitty narrative device does not make that device good at all.

You scored Baccano! and Steins;Gate a 10 and they have constant cliffhangers. I'm sure you like a whole lot of stuff that uses cliffhangers.
I'm sorry but thinking that cliffhangers are a "shitty narrative device" is a dumb opinion and one which not many people hold.
There are plenty of legitimate flaws in Mayoiga to complain about, but the fact that they use cliffhangers is not one of them.

Apr 30, 2016 11:34 AM

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Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

Ugh. Those are shows that are praised and also happen to have cliffhangers. They are not shows praised for their cliffhangers. A good work utilizing a shitty narrative device does not make that device good at all.

You scored Baccano! and Steins;Gate a 10 and they have constant cliffhangers. I'm sure you like a whole lot of stuff that uses cliffhangers.
I'm sorry but thinking that cliffhangers are a "shitty narrative device" is a dumb opinion and one which not many people hold.
There are plenty of legitimate flaws in Mayoiga to complain about, but the fact that they use cliffhangers is not one of them.

I rated those 10 because a work isn't defined by it's use of cliffhangers alone. Do you get that? I don't dislike Mayoiga because it uses cliffhangers, I simply counted it as one of many weak points of the show. But of course because my opinion is "dumb" cliffhangers must be a good narrative device, right? Forget the fact that they rarely add anything to the work narratively, or are consistently implemented poorly in nearly every work they're presented in, everyone uses them so they must be good, right?

This is man's ultimate fighting machine. The synthetic life form know as Evangelion, Unit 01. Built here in secret, it is mankind’s last hope.

Apr 30, 2016 11:37 AM

#165

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Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:

You scored Baccano! and Steins;Gate a 10 and they have constant cliffhangers. I'm sure you like a whole lot of stuff that uses cliffhangers.
I'm sorry but thinking that cliffhangers are a "shitty narrative device" is a dumb opinion and one which not many people hold.
There are plenty of legitimate flaws in Mayoiga to complain about, but the fact that they use cliffhangers is not one of them.

I rated those 10 because a work isn't defined by it's use of cliffhangers alone. Do you get that? I don't dislike Mayoiga because it uses cliffhangers, I simply counted it as one of many weak points of the show. But of course because my opinion is "dumb" cliffhangers must be a good narrative device, right? Forget the fact that they rarely add anything to the work narratively, or are consistently implemented poorly in nearly every work they're presented in, everyone uses them so they must be good, right?

I don't know what to tell you dude, but pretty much any critic would tell you you're wrong.
If I went to a film class and my tutor told me cliffhangers were a lazy plot device I would walk out the room because they clearly know nothing about the subject.

Apr 30, 2016 11:38 AM

#166

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The people who wanted to leave the village are back. After an argument, some people don't want to live with "suspects". In order of this, awkward and extreme groups were developed. The people bcome crazier and stranger. Despite this show's (non-existing) qualities, I always wanted to watch the next episode. But this time, I don't feel so.

Apr 30, 2016 11:44 AM

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Tsukurai said:

mimiiria said:

Almost like To the moon :)

Apr 30, 2016 11:45 AM

#168

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ans do they started turning on each other and damn man women are crazy in this show

Apr 30, 2016 11:53 AM

#169

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The show is getting more weirder and weirder! Lovepon is so crazy!

That ending!!!

Apr 30, 2016 12:10 PM

#170

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Thnx4dafood said:

gust11 said:

That would also be a somewhat similar premise to a novel titled

I've seen the movie(because I'm lazy and don't read), those kind of movies like to mess with my mind xD

Yeah they really do xD

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Apr 30, 2016 12:16 PM

#171

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Is this anime ever going to give us any answers or will it keep on popping up questions? Wtf am I watching.

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Apr 30, 2016 12:24 PM

#172

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I've been waiting for some major horror aspect to this show, e.g. a monster who is stalking the characters and kills them (the bear LOL). Now I don't think that's going to happen. There is definitely supernatural stuff going on with all the hallucinations they are seeing and hearing. But I think if they are going to die, they are going to kill each other. Their mental state is slowly degenerating and they are already starting to break up into smaller groups. I can see maybe 4 or 5 groups forming as they become more mentally disturbed. Those groups will be fighting each other and within themselves.

The most mentally disturbed person in the group is Lovepon and she is getting more and more batshit every episode - hint hint. The more rational characters are still hanging in there, but I think everyone is slowly going mad.

At the end, someone will have to find out what's causing it and stop it before they all kill each other. Most likely the wussy MC and Misaki, because who else could it possibly be LOL?

Also, nobody has even been CONFIRMED dead yet, no actual bodies. Everyone could just be seeing/hearing things. Was that really Yottsun in the river? Did Mr. Asshole really die, or did he just fall down the hill and break his ankle?

All this is just my opinion, I know nothing more than you do as there is no source material for this show. 4/5 for the episode, will keep watching!

Apr 30, 2016 12:55 PM

#173

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well, i'm not supsrised with the rating. it's obvious. i got pissed off by the character too.

there are one thing that i like and i dislike from this anime.
The thing that i dislike is the character. my god. especially this episode. it was as if i was seeing a bunch of elitist and casual people bashing each other opinions. freaking pissing me off so bad, espeically with that execution thing. CAN SHE EVEN SHUT HER MOUTH UP FOR A SECOND DAMMIT!!! in the middle of a serious arguement and suddenly someone just say something like that really pissed me off. and that glasses guy. just please. erase him from this freaking series. too freaking annoying.

and the things that i like is about the story, the Lost Village itself. i'm curious for about what will happen to them all too. i hope 90% of them died

and this show never fail to get me freak out by all of the expression that the character made after they saw something scary but in the end it's not something scary instead makes me want to say "WTF?" that ending for example. looking foward for the explanation of the penguin thing or whatever it is in the end. just don't leave it empty like "big masamune"

i can't say i enjoy this episode so much but i like the thrill.
looking foward for the next episode.

current missing people and death : 2 missing, 1 death.
possibility missing people and death in the next episode IMO : 2death/2missing/1death/1missing/none

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Apr 30, 2016 12:58 PM

#174

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If it wasn't for Sakamoto, this would be the best comedy of the season.

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Apr 30, 2016 1:02 PM

#175

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Welp...holy shit that ending. A giant penguin thing with half a human face. This is like Lost and Twin Peaks mixed together.

Apr 30, 2016 1:13 PM

#176

Jotakak

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Lovepon is so annoying, I can't stand her. She needs to disappear next. And Mitsumune is so dumb. Now I know why Speedstar felt the need to basically control everything he does.

I also hope Jack's okay. He barely did anything but he was locked up while the yandere is the one talking about killing everyone. It's infuriating!

Apr 30, 2016 1:13 PM

#177

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I don't know where the show is heading honestly but I guess that's actually a good thing?
The theorie that everyone sees sth different when it comes to this "monster" seems to be true though but that doesn't really explain what this "thing" really is and why it is there in the first place.

MC is so pathetic I can't even watch his face without CRINGING like they are in a really really bad situation and all he thinks about is to how many girls he talked to? Woah seriously calm down boy.

Apr 30, 2016 1:58 PM

#178

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The paranoia in this series is a 10, everyone is accusing everyone else. I also love how character disappear and are forgotten about next episode. It's a really weird show with crazy & annoying characters but its somehow compulsive viewing.

Apr 30, 2016 2:10 PM

#179

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This show reminds me a lot of Lost on ABC. The characters are selfish people struggling in life, and the setting is a dangerous, weird place with lots of mystery. Yup, this is the anime version of Lost.

Apr 30, 2016 2:11 PM

#180

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This show just getting dumber and dumber every single week. I like it.

Apr 30, 2016 2:12 PM

#181

Vargr

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Geez.
That Lovepon chick needs to die. And quick.

Apr 30, 2016 2:16 PM

#182

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OK! Lovepon needs to die soon!

Apr 30, 2016 2:16 PM

#183

FurMetarArkemist

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I hate to say it, but I will have to rate this anime 1/10 because it doesn't warn people suffering from Acrophobia. Seriously, I almost died watching this.

Apr 30, 2016 2:22 PM

#184

cjjb95

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This show is quickly becoming a parody of itself, also I fucking hate leon and her whole fucking archetype.

Apr 30, 2016 2:27 PM

#185

Hibikase

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BEST. ANIME. OF. THE. SEASON.

Be straight trippin' at this point -_-

"Anime is trash and so am I."

Apr 30, 2016 2:38 PM

#186

PerlaNemesis

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What the hell is that Tokimune??? Well, it seems Lovepon and that girl who loves guns are getting flashback in the next ep., so I'm looking forward to that.

Apr 30, 2016 2:54 PM

#187

Reverberate

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The fuck. That ending gave me the goosebumps. Shit is trippin' even more now in this episode. So many characters getting in derp mode as well.

Apr 30, 2016 2:58 PM

#188

porkypink

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This show is portraying the internet.
Mere cancer

[right]

Apr 30, 2016 3:12 PM

#189

AhmedJafar1

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504

this show can't stop throwing creepy songs out of nowhere; every episode

Apr 30, 2016 3:37 PM

#190

Evangeliman

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Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

I rated those 10 because a work isn't defined by it's use of cliffhangers alone. Do you get that? I don't dislike Mayoiga because it uses cliffhangers, I simply counted it as one of many weak points of the show. But of course because my opinion is "dumb" cliffhangers must be a good narrative device, right? Forget the fact that they rarely add anything to the work narratively, or are consistently implemented poorly in nearly every work they're presented in, everyone uses them so they must be good, right?

I don't know what to tell you dude, but pretty much any critic would tell you you're wrong.
If I went to a film class and my tutor told me cliffhangers were a lazy plot device I would walk out the room because they clearly know nothing about the subject.

Explain to me why Cliffhangers are good devices with a reason other than "Other people say they are."

This is man's ultimate fighting machine. The synthetic life form know as Evangelion, Unit 01. Built here in secret, it is mankind’s last hope.

Apr 30, 2016 3:38 PM

#191

sirflimflam

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All I even care about this point is how Masaki is involved in all this. I can rest in peace when that happens.

Apr 30, 2016 3:41 PM

#192

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Evangeliman said:
Explain to me why Cliffhangers are good devices with a reason other than "Other people say they are."

It's just a plot device, that's it. It's not good or bad. What matters is its execution. Which in this instance was very meh lol

Apr 30, 2016 3:43 PM

#193

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Lovepon is life. Shes very adorable

Apr 30, 2016 3:46 PM

#194

Bobby2Hands

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Evangeliman said:

Bobby2Hands said:

I don't know what to tell you dude, but pretty much any critic would tell you you're wrong.
If I went to a film class and my tutor told me cliffhangers were a lazy plot device I would walk out the room because they clearly know nothing about the subject.

Explain to me why Cliffhangers are good devices with a reason other than "Other people say they are."

I already did but I'll say it again. Cliffhangers are good because they keep the audience hooked, and they have been used effectively in fiction between chapters/publications/episodes in countless great works spanning hundreds of years and appearing in just about every genre. It's the very thing that makes a book a page turner, that makes a show so appealing to binge watch.

Bobby2HandsApr 30, 2016 3:50 PM

Apr 30, 2016 3:46 PM

#195

HumbertoZero

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Lovepon is starting to annoy me... Ok, you are special but this is too much! I mean, everyone else treats her like it was a joke... As we could see in the preview, maybe next episode will be about her.

I'll admit it, my heart rate raised in the last 20 seconds... that shit was intense!
And for a second I thought Masaki was going to turn into a corpse or something! Just for the way she appeared right outta nowhere and saying she wanted to talk... and then Mitsumune's face... oh god... THE GIANT PENGUIN WITH HUMAN EYE!!

The theory of the Purgatory is still strong, but the hallucinogen theory too.

PD: As a bonus

HumbertoZeroApr 30, 2016 3:53 PM

Apr 30, 2016 3:49 PM

#196

Evangeliman

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Bobby2Hands said:

Evangeliman said:

Explain to me why Cliffhangers are good devices with a reason other than "Other people say they are."

I already did but I'll say it again. Cliffhangers are good because they keep people hooked and they have been used effectively in fiction between chapters/publications/episodes in countless great works spanning hundreds of years and appearing in just about every genre. It's the very thing that makes a book a page turner, that makes a show so appealing to binge watch.
Look if you don't like cliffhangers that's fine but just know you are in a tiny minority of people.

What you just said is "I'll say it again: Lots of people have used them."

Yes cliffhangers keep people hooked. That doesn't mean they're not a lazy device. It's like dropping a bunch of backstory before you kill a character off. Sure, you can garner some cheap feels, but you'd have a hard time arguing Akame ga Kill is a masterpiece of emotional writing.

This is man's ultimate fighting machine. The synthetic life form know as Evangelion, Unit 01. Built here in secret, it is mankind’s last hope.

Apr 30, 2016 3:53 PM

#197