Looks like the Fire Emblem: Fates boycott didn't work: FE Fates sold 1.84 million copies since launch, only 500k of which were sold in Japan.
| Didn't expect it to. Buying complete games is a thing of the past. |
on BatoKusanagi said: Didn't expect it to. Buying complete games is a thing of the past. The boycott was about more than that. |
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| Good for Fates, I guess. |
| Great, then another game in the series is pretty much guaranteed. |
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| It didn't sell a million here at launch, it did something to the sales, but it also highlight why Nintendo still goes the route of corporate tyranny in the modern age. The Treehouse needs to be disbanded. |
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| Game requires 3 purchases to have a complete experience. Often defended as two seperate games but their sales figures are being represented as a combination of the two. Talk about inflated statistics and kinda sad. Also, a heavily marketed game sold well? Despite the shady business practices? Like Mass Effect 3 Who would have thought?  |
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The cut-out/censored content was the biggest issue, though. Operation Torrential Downpour was all about that. |
| @Dragonage2ftw only 500k of which were sold in Japan. I think you can't read statistics.0.78m of those were Japanese sales. 1.06m of those were overseas sales. Birthright and Conquest bundled together. I don't think they've added Revelations to this since there's nothing saying so. Last date is April 15, so these were picked up 2 weeks ago. Trying to be cheeky is also not going to work out for you, I can throw this back at you and say "Prove that the boycott failed, after all, there could have been 5m sales without it for all we know.", it would be a statement that stands after all. Also, what boycott are we talking about? What was organized? |
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BatoKusanagi said: The cut-out/censored content was the biggest issue, though. Operation Torrential Downpour was all about that. It was also partially due to localization changes that weren't cut content related. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: They were all cut content. If I change a banana with an apple, the banana is "cut content". BatoKusanagi said: The cut-out/censored content was the biggest issue, though. Operation Torrential Downpour was all about that. It was also partially due to localization changes that weren't cut content related. It's not a banana anymore, it's an apple. |
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| Weebs needs their waifu, that's why it sold so well. Don't get me wrong. I think the gameplay is very good on this one but since Awakening, the Fire Emblem series has gone downhill with this weeb shit. I actually have the Collector's Edition cause it's pretty and it has all three parts in one cartridge.. Wanted to buy the 3DS but I didn't have the money then. >.> |
| This did tell me though that Nintendo fans are the Stockholm syndrome afflicted of the industry. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: It was also partially due to localization changes that weren't cut content related. What @Immahnoob said, but even then I was talking about the most egregious problem about this game. |
Immahnoob said: This did tell me though that Nintendo fans are the Stockholm syndrome afflicted of the industry. Lol. So the game is split into 2 pieces then? Seems a bit odd. Then again I guess some might argue they've been doing the same thing with pokemon for ages. So I can't say I'm shocked. A shame, I got a 3DS last year, and I've been wanting to check out the Fire Emblem games, I guess I can get one of the older games, awakening or whatever, |
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| @Sir_Chasm it's actually split into 3, you won't get the full picture or story without Relevations, but I presume they did not consider Revelations for sales numbers since it's DLC. The stats say "Birthright/Conquest". In total, it costs 80$ to get it. Since it's half the price for each route after you buy one. |
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| Disgusting, oh well. |
Dragonage2ftw said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/725221477881110528?p=v https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Emblem_Fates#Sales Nice. A long long applause for this. Fates is a great FE game, way better than Awakening and its great to see it do well. Very happy to be a part of the actual sales by having bought all three routes. Am buying the EU version too. Immahnoob said: This did tell me though that Nintendo fans are the Stockholm syndrome afflicted of the industry. Lemme hand you this:  |
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| @Fai I think I said several times that I expect this to do well. This wouldn't have been the case with other companies and fanbases though. |
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Fai said: >double dipping for a game that's locked out of your regionA long long applause for this. Fates is a great FE game, way better than Awakening and its great to see it do well. Very happy to be a part of the actual sales by having bought all three routes. Am buying the EU version too. >spending $160 + out of region fees fees out of sheer brand loyalty Nintendo fans everyone. Immahnoob said: This did tell me though that Nintendo fans are the Stockholm syndrome afflicted of the industry. |
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Immahnoob said: @Sir_Chasm it's actually split into 3, you won't get the full picture or story without Relevations, but I presume they did not consider Revelations for sales numbers since it's DLC. The stats say "Birthright/Conquest". In total, it costs 80$ to get it. Since it's half the price for each route after you buy one. Damn, guess I'll just check out awakening or some shit then. Or just not bother with the franchise all together. Still like I've said, it's a bit of a shitty move, but I'm not overly shocked, if they'e willing to do it with pokemon, and it works for pokemon (I know people who for some reason pick up both versions) then why wouldn't it work for Fire Emblem? I mean it's dumb and all that, but I can understand why Nintendo would do it. |
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| @Sir_Chasm Yeah, I can also understand trying to get as much money as you can from a bunch of loyal zealots that would accept anything... |
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Immahnoob said: @Sir_Chasm Yeah, I can also understand trying to get as much money as you can from a bunch of loyal zealots that would accept anything... If it works for things like Angry Birds and Pokemon, it will probably work for Fire Emblem. But we'll see 1.8 million copies, I don't know if that's a lot when compared to anticipated sales, and sales of other handheld games. |
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Sir_Chasm said: It is quite the big deal. It almost reached Awakening worldwide.Immahnoob said: @Sir_Chasm Yeah, I can also understand trying to get as much money as you can from a bunch of loyal zealots that would accept anything... If it works for things like Angry Birds and Pokemon, it will probably work for Fire Emblem. But we'll see 1.8 million copies, I don't know if that's a lot when compared to anticipated sales, and sales of other handheld games. I guess this just means you won't ever get uncensored content from Nintendo. Tough luck, there are other games to push for. |
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| @immahnoob Well, I guess Nintendo will paint themselves into a corner eventually due to their practices. Then again, Nintendo fanboyism is a special kind of fanboyism. |
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Sir_Chasm said: If they go too far, maybe... Or maybe when the fanboys and general video games fans wake up.@immahnoob Well, I guess Nintendo will paint themselves into a corner eventually due to their practices. Then again, Nintendo fanboyism is a special kind of fanboyism. Most people dislike censorship, but a percentage of these people would buy regardless (unused copies). |
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Fai said: Dragonage2ftw said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/725221477881110528?p=v https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Emblem_Fates#Sales Nice. A long long applause for this. Fates is a great FE game, way better than Awakening and its great to see it do well. Very happy to be a part of the actual sales by having bought all three routes. Am buying the EU version too. Immahnoob said: This did tell me though that Nintendo fans are the Stockholm syndrome afflicted of the industry. Lemme hand you this: That's bad luck, mate. Quick, toss it over your left shoulder! Anyways, best I can hope for is that they still try to branch out and mix things up in the later games. Thinking more about what works for the game they're making and less what worked in a previous installment (ie. player avatar, marriage/children, etc...). |
| Fates pretty much dials back "THE ANIME" nonsense of Awakening and actually presents a good and enjoyable game and story, while still adding the better elements of awakening. I'd say they are back on the right road. |
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Fai said: Fates pretty much dials back "THE ANIME" nonsense of Awakening and actually presents a good and enjoyable game and story, while still adding the better elements of awakening. I'd say they are back on the right road. Mmm......... I don't know about that, Fai. There's still a lot of anime troupes in all three of the games. |
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| @Fai Fates pretty much dials back "THE ANIME" nonsense of Awakening    Please stop, just stop posting, Fai. Please stop. Oh my Me, you're... You're, oh LOL. |
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Fai said: Fates pretty much dials back "THE ANIME" nonsense of Awakening and actually presents a good and enjoyable game and story, while still adding the better elements of awakening. I'd say they are back on the right road. Highly debatable on they "good story" part. And the only thing I can think of from awakening that worked was the balancing of the Pair Up mechanic. Other than that, I thought the children were clumsily handled, (especially in regards to their supports), the "everyone can support/marry anyone (except the Corrinsexuals of course)" still comes of as...I don't wanna say lazy, but half-hearted? Unfocused? It's tough to put into words. And then there's what they did with skills/character building. Yes, infinitely Second Sealing in Awakening was pretty broken if you were patient enough, but the skill shop method just replaced one form of busywork with another less reliable form. Dragonage2ftw said: Fai said: Fates pretty much dials back "THE ANIME" nonsense of Awakening and actually presents a good and enjoyable game and story, while still adding the better elements of awakening. I'd say they are back on the right road. Mmm......... I don't know about that, Fai. There's still a lot of anime troupes in all three of the games. In some ways it can be seen as more anime than Awakening. Actually as I type this I realized something: I have little to no idea what people mean when they talk about "anime" in Fire Emblem. I mean, I can point out things I've seen in anime, but they also exist in other media so I don't quite get the comment/complaints of anime tropes in jrpgs. |
AllenNoah said: Fai said: Fates pretty much dials back "THE ANIME" nonsense of Awakening and actually presents a good and enjoyable game and story, while still adding the better elements of awakening. I'd say they are back on the right road. Highly debatable on they "good story" part. And the only thing I can think of from awakening that worked was the balancing of the Pair Up mechanic. Other than that, I thought the children were clumsily handled, (especially in regards to their supports), the "everyone can support/marry anyone (except the Corrinsexuals of course)" still comes of as...I don't wanna say lazy, but half-hearted? Unfocused? It's tough to put into words. And then there's what they did with skills/character building. Yes, infinitely Second Sealing in Awakening was pretty broken if you were patient enough, but the skill shop method just replaced one form of busywork with another less reliable form. Dragonage2ftw said: Mmm......... I don't know about that, Fai. There's still a lot of anime troupes in all three of the games. In some ways it can be seen as more anime than Awakening. Actually as I type this I realized something: I have little to no idea what people mean when they talk about "anime" in Fire Emblem. I mean, I can point out things I've seen in anime, but they also exist in other media so I don't quite get the comment/complaints of anime tropes in jrpgs. Well, for one thing, the kids aren't broken as hell like they were in Awakening. It's also much harder to get Galeforce. I think that Galeforce was also nerfed? They're talking about the anime troupes in FE:A and FE:F. I've heard that there are anime troupes in earlier FE games, too, though. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: AllenNoah said: Highly debatable on they "good story" part. And the only thing I can think of from awakening that worked was the balancing of the Pair Up mechanic. Other than that, I thought the children were clumsily handled, (especially in regards to their supports), the "everyone can support/marry anyone (except the Corrinsexuals of course)" still comes of as...I don't wanna say lazy, but half-hearted? Unfocused? It's tough to put into words. And then there's what they did with skills/character building. Yes, infinitely Second Sealing in Awakening was pretty broken if you were patient enough, but the skill shop method just replaced one form of busywork with another less reliable form. In some ways it can be seen as more anime than Awakening. Actually as I type this I realized something: I have little to no idea what people mean when they talk about "anime" in Fire Emblem. I mean, I can point out things I've seen in anime, but they also exist in other media so I don't quite get the comment/complaints of anime tropes in jrpgs. Well, for one thing, the kids aren't broken as hell like they were in Awakening. It's also much harder to get Galeforce. I think that Galeforce was also nerfed? They're talking about the anime troupes in FE:A and FE:F. I've heard that there are anime troupes in earlier FE games, too, though. I honestly did not use Galeforce at first, and once I did I only thought it was okay. Handy, but not the end all be all skill that the net made it out to be. Probably because I didn't do that one DLC stage that starts with an A and is apparently really hard, so whenever I used a character with Galeforce even if I didn't kill everyone the enemy'd drop dead as soon as I hit start when their phase started. As for getting it, I think you just have to have all three routes and you get two Ebon Wings. Beyond that you just gotta find castles that have Galeforce on a character you want. It's "harder," yes, but not in a challenging way if that makes any sense. Hell, you go to Gamefaqs. You've seen it. If the topic's actually about gameplay it's usually just someone asking if anyone has/knows a castle that has a skill they want. It's nerfed in the sense that it can't be used while in Attack or Guard Stance, so you can't cover as much ground as you could if you paired to Galeforce users in Awakening. Pretty sure there's anime tropes in everything, since anime is a wide medium. It's like saying a game plays out like a movie/tv show. |
Dragonage2ftw said: Fai said: Fates pretty much dials back "THE ANIME" nonsense of Awakening and actually presents a good and enjoyable game and story, while still adding the better elements of awakening. I'd say they are back on the right road. Mmm......... I don't know about that, Fai. There's still a lot of anime troupes in all three of the games. Awakening was just waifu sim. While fates retains waifu parts, it actually has gameplay to back it up and a decent story about war and a protagonist who is actually relevant person and not just random advisor self insert. So yeah, they dialed back anime nonsense quite a bit, at least to a more comfortable territory. IT still has gross shit like petting and all, but overall its a lot more comfortable than Awakening as it has elements appealing to actual Fire Emblem fanbase and not just neets like Awakening. |
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Fai said: Dragonage2ftw said: Mmm......... I don't know about that, Fai. There's still a lot of anime troupes in all three of the games. Awakening was just waifu sim. While fates retains waifu parts, it actually has gameplay to back it up and a decent story about war and a protagonist who is actually relevant person and not just random advisor self insert. ...Care to elaborate. I see people praise the gameplay of Fates, but fundamentally I found it the same as other FEs. I liked the addition of personal skills and I've already mentioned the streamlining of pairing up, but aside from that the gameplay didn't seem to do to differ that much. Well, there was the addition to the weapon triangle, which I file under "Good theory, Meh practice." The Dragon Veins ranged from needless gimmicks to straight-up railroading which is the last thing you want in a strategy game. Story-wise...I'll spare the paragraph, but suffice to say overall I think it really suffers from being split and loses a lot of coherence as a result. And I'd argue that Corrin is too relevant and that causes the plot to go out of its way to either keep him alive or get what he wants. Robin being just a guy Chrom finds in a field makes his interactions with other characters feel more natural. Fai said: So yeah, they dialed back anime nonsense quite a bit, at least to a more comfortable territory. IT still has gross shit like petting and all, but overall its a lot more comfortable than Awakening as it has elements appealing to actual Fire Emblem fanbase and not just neets like Awakening. ...I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here. |
| Jesus christ how can you be so wrong Fates was the most anime the series has ever been Saturday morning cartoon villain Hot springs Chuuni for the sake of chuuni (Owain in Awakening actually had a good reason for it) Ninja maid archetype. One of them was also made to be a klutz for gap moe. Hamfisted DAISIKE DESU NE ONEE-CHAN moments Protagonist has an innate magical super power further attributing to his mary-sue, "chosen one" archetype Idealistic "War is bad and killing is wrong!" crap. Yet the war drives the story and characters and gameplay forward. Even the Fire Emblem anime is less anime than Fates. |
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| @95PercentCaim @Fai is a SJWeeaboo. He's the most contradictory being in existence. How can you not see that Fates is basically a stereotypical shounen? |
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| Yeah, sorry, the translation thing was shitty, but this is my favorite game franchise we're talking about. I was going to buy it no matter what. At least we're getting fan-made patches. |
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| What they should've done was add the cut content back in via micro-transaction. Maybe we'll see that in the next one. |
NeoVolt said: Yeah, they boycott would have succeeded 100% at that point.What they should've done was add the cut content back in via micro-transaction. Maybe we'll see that in the next one. |
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| Why were we expecting idiots on the internet who complain about things they had no intention of purchasing to make a difference in sales again? |
ReynTime said: Sorry, who are you talking about? From what I remember, every complaint about the game was legit.Why were we expecting idiots on the internet who complain about things they had no intention of purchasing to make a difference in sales again? |
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Immahnoob said: ReynTime said: Sorry, who are you talking about? From what I remember, every complaint about the game was legit.Why were we expecting idiots on the internet who complain about things they had no intention of purchasing to make a difference in sales again? Sure, the complaints are legitimate. The issue is that the complaints were blown out of proportion like most things on the internet and the loudest people stomping their feet and crying about it actually didn't have any intention of buying the product in the first place. Sure, there's a section of people who had every intention of buying the game and perhaps got discouraged, but those people aren't screaming for justice.... |
ReynTime said: The issue is that the complaints were blown out of proportion Censorship is a black and white issue. The complaints about it can't be blown out of proportion because it is objectively a bad thing. |
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| It sold well because some people just play games for the gameplay. It's mostly the text that was cut. As far as I know, the main gameplay is still the same, and you still get waifus like in Awakening. And pirating it isn't available for everyone, or at least wasn't when I got my Gateway, so maybe some people caved in and bought it because they can't pirate it. |
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Narmy said: ReynTime said: The issue is that the complaints were blown out of proportion Censorship is a black and white issue. The complaints about it can't be blown out of proportion because it is objectively a bad thing. If you want the uncensored version you do have your means to obtain that. Nintendo's European and American divisions have decided to localize the game and that includes censoring certain aspects of the game to reach maximum market for its western audience. Realize that Japan has a much looser tolerance towards sexual content than the western world. It's weird having a naked Goku on cartoon network (even on adult swim). Clearly they need to censor that. In Japan, a naked boy's penis and a girl's bare breasts are perfectly fine to show to the general public. Different cultural norms. Nintendo is not just targeting adults here. Viewers discretion. Therefore, censorship isn't always black and white. There's gray. I'm all for the uncensored version, but the censored content doesn't bother me because they kept the game overall in tact. What's major to you is minor to the rest of the population. They did it for a reason and when you think about it.... you'll understand why they did. Makes sense why we have uncensored versions and clean versions of music and movies. |
| @ReynTime to reach maximum market for its western audience. This statement ignores reality. Therefore, censorship isn't always black and white. There's gray. Nothing of what you mentioned makes censorship in any way "gray".They did it for a reason and when you think about it.... you'll understand why they did. You can't present one shred of an argument and you end this with "believe me", kek. |
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Immahnoob said: @ReynTime to reach maximum market for its western audience. This statement ignores reality. Therefore, censorship isn't always black and white. There's gray. Nothing of what you mentioned makes censorship in any way "gray".They did it for a reason and when you think about it.... you'll understand why they did. You can't present one shred of an argument and you end this with "believe me", kek.Thanks for quoting bits and pieces of what I'm saying to fuel your agenda and antagonize me.... You take my message out of its full context and can't comprehend what my message is. I've been civil with you and you can't even have a discussion without pulling out the insults and petty jabs because I have a different opinion than yours. Big whoop, someone doesn't see things how you see it. Your instinct is to be condescending and antagonize them. You're exactly the type of person I was originally complaining about. Thank you. You think I'm ignoring reality? Tell that to the businesses that do it. You ignored reality. FACT. Fire Emblem Fates EXCEED sales expectations in the west. WITH CENSORSHIP. I'm not saying anything. I didn't even explicitly say that Nitnendo's opinion was my opinion!!!! You can defend a point of view other than your own... WOW!!!!! Nothing I mentioned makes censorship "gray" in any way? Perhaps not "gray", as censorship is either you have it or you don't but censorship has its uses that I see where it's hard to tell whether or not using censorship was right or wrong. Hence. CONTROVERSIAL..... I gave a good example in Dragon Ball airing on cartoon network. That's definitely a case where we'd want to censor that (MY OPINION). Censorship is what it is as you're claiming, but it definitely has its uses.Those uses of censorship can fall in areas of GRAY. Think less individual and think more society at large. ""They did it for a reason and when you think about it.... you'll understand why they did." I'm going to dumb this sentence down for you. I said in common terms, but perhaps it needs to be done on a third grade reading level. They as in Nintendo censored the game for a reason (several actually) and when YOU think about it (as in you think from the perspective of NINTENDO as in..... if you're Nintendo!!!!!), then you would understand why they did what they did. I didn't say you had to BELIEVE ANYTHING. I said, you'll UNDERSTAND Nintendo's reasoning. That does not mean AGREE/BELIEVE, but you'll UNDERSTAND. Apparently.... you need to work on your reading comprehension. Go ahead and butcher whatever you want in this response or any of my other replies. My actual opinion on this topic still stands "Why were we expecting idiots on the internet who complain about things they had no intention of purchasing to make a difference in sales again?" |
| @ReynTime Thanks for quoting bits and pieces of what I'm saying to fuel your agenda and antagonize me.... The rest was mostly bullshit.You take my message out of its full context and can't comprehend what my message is. No, that's pretty much what you said in simpler words. I've been civil with you and you can't even have a discussion without pulling out the insults and petty jabs because I have a different opinion than yours. Where should I start?Opinions can be wrong, you made a bunch of assertions without evidence, in an argument, difference of opinion is irrelevant, besides, you're the one that started with the antagonism and overall shitty attitude, etc. Big whoop, someone doesn't see things how you see it. Yeah, big whoop, you're wrong.That's just everyday MAL for me. :^) Your instinct is to be condescending and antagonize them. No, that would be my rationale.You're exactly the type of person I was originally complaining about. Thank you. No problem, although, I'm not sure you should be complaining about those that are right.You think I'm ignoring reality? Tell that to the businesses that do it. You ignored reality. FACT. Fire Emblem Fates EXCEED sales expectations in the west. And where's your evidence that this happened because of the censorship? This is all I have to do to break your tiny little assertion. Most that knew about these changes did not enjoy them. That's definitely a case where we'd want to censor that (MY OPINION). Your opinion is irrelevant, censorship in fiction will always remain bad, there's literally no case in which censorship can be deemed "acceptable".I said, you'll UNDERSTAND Nintendo's reasoning. That does not mean AGREE/BELIEVE, but you'll UNDERSTAND. Apparently.... you need to work on your reading comprehension. Thanks, Cpt Obvious. The issue is, all of their reasons are bullshit, just like most of your post here.My actual opinion on this topic still stands "Why were we expecting idiots on the internet who complain about things they had no intention of purchasing to make a difference in sales again?" My actual opinion still stands  |
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| @ReynTime If you want the uncensored version you do have your means to obtain that. Not really. As far as I know, the unofficial fan-TL isn't finished (and it's illegal either way), so unless you know Japanese and import the original game and JP console, you don't have any (legal) means to obtain and play the uncensored version.Nintendo's European and American divisions have decided to localize the game and that includes censoring certain aspects of the game to reach maximum market for its western audience. Censorship is outside of the scope of localization, which is supposed to deliver exactly the same experience (only "translated" to a different culture). And no, censoring random, culturally neutral things cannot be considered as done for the sake of "localization".Realize that Japan has a much looser tolerance towards sexual content than the western world. It's weird having a naked Goku on cartoon network (even on adult swim). Clearly they need to censor that. In Japan, a naked boy's penis and a girl's bare breasts are perfectly fine to show to the general public. Different cultural norms. That's as wrong as it gets.In Japan, you "can" show girl's bare breasts in public about as much as on the West. That is - you can't. Period. Take a look at those versions of ecchi anime that are aired on JP TV - they are censored beyond recognition. During any scenes featuring nudity, half of the screen is filled with steam/rays of light. Because you can't show that stuff on TV. As for genitals, according to ridiculously harsh Japanese laws, those must be censored even in 18+ rated explicit porn, not to even mention showing anything like that in public or on TV. DB is quite old (so it doesn't exactly reflect the current situation), but I'd bet it wouldn't get censored in Japan even today - after all, as far as I know, it didn't show anything detailed or sexual in nature. It could get higher age rating or something though. And if you think that censoring non-sexualized naked children makes sense, go to the beach - I'm not sure how it is in America, but I bet you can see quite a few real 3D kids running around naked there, and nobody throws a tantrum about it. Nintendo is not just targeting adults here. Viewers discretion. No, apparently they are targeting preschool children who can't read. Exclusively. In this case, hiring the worst fanfic writers as "translators" actually makes perfect sense. :PMore seriously though - Neptunia is rated "T", and it's much bolder than fully uncensored FE that doesn't feature any questionable content really. Therefore, censorship isn't always black and white. There's gray. That "gray" is when idiots censor things that wouldn't affect the rating and are perfectly acceptable in Western culture? Sorry, but your opinion is 100% retarded. If something is inappropriate in different culture, that only means localization companies should rate it accordingly, not cut out or modify (and if they want to reach broader audience, they should release two versions, which in case of a digitally distributed game would generate very little extra costs).I'm all for the uncensored version, but the censored content doesn't bother me because they kept the game overall in tact. Contradiction - if the game was censored and had some content removed, it wasn't kept intact.What's major to you is minor to the rest of the population. They did it for a reason and when you think about it.... you'll understand why they did. Well, I do understand that. People don't read the text anyway, so hiring the cheapest, borderline-illiterate teenagers as writers makes perfect sense from a business perspective. Same with removing 2/3 of the voiced content, not buying a license for original voices and hiring cheapest English VAs instead, and still charging full price for a butchered release. As long as people keep buying shit, there's simply no need to invest any more money to make a decent-quality localization. If I hated Japanese games and was a greedy asshole, I would do exactly the same thing. Milking fanboys is just easy money. :PI like Japanese games though, so I hate such practices. Makes sense why we have uncensored versions and clean versions of music and movies. Oh, that's one thing that actually isn't wrong. Yeah, when we have two differently rated releases (as opposed to FE) because full version features some inappropriate content that would limit its sales (which is not the case in FE), that certainly makes sense and expands the potential target audience (unlike with FE, where the target audience was strictly limited to fans of rabid censorship). |
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