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Apr 24, 2016 7:24 AM
#301
In my country it is allowed to have sex with people that are at least 14 years old (if you are older). If they are younger than 14 it is not allowed (even if the other person is not much older). But that's the law only. Then we have anime/manga/hentai vs. reality. If you only like anime stuff it doesn't mean you also like real young girls. (Although it might be likely - especially if you like the anime loli girls in a sexual way.) You would need to like real young girls - not only drawn fictional girls. And you only need to like them. (If you still like older girls this isn't pedophile. They only like young girls. Homosexual people also don't like people from the opposite gender.) Some people use the word wrong. The girls really need to be young. Before reaching puberty. 14-16 where they already have boobs is too old for a real pedophile. (There are other terms for people that love girls at that age.) (Hell, some people even think it is pedophile if there is only a big age difference - even if the girl is 18 and the guy is 40 or 50.) All that does not mean that those people would commit crimes. In fact (at least in my country) most crimes against children are commited by family/relatives that use the child as substitute because they can't get other women and/or because they love to have power and it is easier to force a young girl to hardcore stuff. (In fact thats the main reason I like hentai with young girls and the usual "school gil getting raped by monster, tentacles, ..." - not because they are young and school girls. Because it is hardcore stuff.) So I don't think you can tell anything from just someone that pauses an underwear scene. I myself don't like it. If it is too young (and real loli) I don't even like the girls. (I prefer girls with boobs. But I would not even pause for them. I want either normal anime with story - no need to pause for such scenes - or I want hardcore hentai. Then I'll watch hentai. And then the panties get removed and action.) |
Apr 24, 2016 8:39 AM
#302
Luthandorius said: As far as I know, it's like this everywhere.In fact (at least in my country) most crimes against children are commited by family/relatives |
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Apr 24, 2016 9:11 AM
#303
Ratohnhaketon said: @l0li_m0e_ya0i Let me apply their logic: Attracted to 30 year old in 10 year old body = pedo Attracted to 8 year old in 20 year old body = dude c'mon it's not real, it's just a drawing! Of course, then there's the problem of science fiction and fantasy shows where the character's age doesn't necessarily reflect their body or mind. Take Steel Angel Kurumi for instance. Kurumi is "born" early in the show, but as a fully grown woman. Appearance-wise, she's adult. Age-wise, she's not just a little girl, but an infant. Okay, not a good example because she's actually a robot. But then there's Seikoku no Dragonar where the dragon girl Eco is "born" at the end of the first episode. Okay, also not the best example because she looks young (probably early teens), but you can see my point. In these cases, how do you really determine whether the girl is a loli? Maybe Kurumi is not (she looks mature) but Eco is (she looks young), but the distinction is completely based upon their appearance. It has nothing to do with their age because during the course of their respective shows they're approximately the same age. But if the two are distinguished entirely by their appearance, then that does suggest a definition of "loli" based upon appearance. i.e. your 30-year-old in a 10-year-old body is a loli but your 8-year-old in a 20-year-old body is not. "But wait!" you might say. "You have to take into consideration the mental state of the characters as well." Good point. But in some ways, both Kurumi and Eco act like children. They don't really have a grown-up mentality. So do we call them both lolis because they seem to think like children? |
Apr 24, 2016 9:14 AM
#304
What a thread. But this topic seems generally to have a lot of confusion going on. No you are not a pedophile if you like lolis in anime and let me tell you really why you're not: (if anybody even cares for a serious answer based on facts lol) As a straight male you're attracted to the female gender obviously. The features of the female attraction develop during pubberty. Real girls before the age of pubberty (kids) do not have these attraction points which is why you're usually not attracted to them. They don't have the developed figures. Even if you like flat girls, kids don't have the female appearance that makes you as the average male attracted to them. (curves as an easy example now). However this rule does not apply to prebubescent anime girls as well. (aka. lolis) Despite being obviously underage and kids they still bear the obvious female attraction points and have a body that real kids do not have in real life. (the curves for example. just look at a loli swimsuit picture in google images or whatever. They all have curves that work as usual female attraction points or have butts that usually kids wouldn't have. even breasts as seen in the picture above). This works for your brain as a normal female. They are like minor sized girls. However lolis are really something evil. They have obviously childlike faces as well. The "erokawaii" attraction comes in. Males are instinctively protective and these loli faces and appearances - being tiny and fragile - also massively triggers the male instinct to protect them a lot. Lolis can be really bad for the males brain. But it really doesn't mean that you're a pedophile. Generally there is really a lot of anxiety of being a pedophile out there since it's probably the worst thing that can happen to someone in this modern society. Nobody wants to be a pedophile. If you're not generally sure if you're a pedophile in real life you can read the spoiler it goes a bit off-topic. first of all ask yourself the question if you're attracted to girls after they hit the age of pubberty? If If so you're most likely no pedophile, because pedophile simply like REAL children (do you jerk off thinking about 8 year old girls in real life? ever went to the kindergarten to take a look at little kids? Real kids out there.) And yes even liking 12-14 girls does not make you a pedophile. (And hell they can even look way older than they actually are sometimes) Pedophile like CHILDREN before they even get into pubberty. Men have minimal criteria for sexual desire. basically, they are concerned with a woman's anatomy - as long as a woman looks young enough and healthy, she is desirable. Young and healthy equals being able to bear and raise a healthy kid - your mind wants such a girl. Young and healthy is subjective though - for some guys's that's women above 20+ and for some directly during and after pupperty when the attraction points develop. (I don't feel like going into details how and why this differences between every single person a lot though. that'd be too much.) The people in the middle ages weren't all pedophiles either when they married 13 and 14 year old girls. Basically after they had their first period they were seen as women and not as kids anymore. It is today's law' though that forbids these things and morally it's of course definitely more than questionable. They're illegal. People will call you a pedophile if you're attracted to "teens", because it's in lots of countries simply forbidden after you reached a certain age or they reache a certain age. Being attracted to them silently implies a desire to have sex with them which is more than morally questionable of course, but you're not a pedophile, because of that. Pedophiles are people attracted to real children. Kids. That's all there is to it. Do you get aroused by watching grade school kids? If so then you should really worry. |
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Apr 24, 2016 10:42 AM
#305
How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. |
Apr 24, 2016 10:48 AM
#306
dim_benes said: How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. This nigga made a MAL account to respond to this thread, LOL~ The vast majority of people who fap to cartoons are people who just enjoy fapping to cartoons. And EVERYONE who plays COD or GTA is a pleb. Thought I'd try it once, too~♡ |
Apr 24, 2016 11:23 AM
#307
l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. This nigga made a MAL account to respond to this thread, LOL~ The vast majority of people who fap to cartoons are people who just enjoy fapping to cartoons. And EVERYONE who plays COD or GTA is a pleb. Thought I'd try it once, too~♡ I don't do either, but I'd say there's a big difference in jerking it to anime women and jerking it to anime little girls. Difference between what you and I said is playing a video game=/=being a pleb, but enjoying seeing naked little girls in their underwear (if you've gone through puberty)=being a pedophile. Lol I actually created an account to ask for anime suggestions, I just stumbled across this first. |
Apr 24, 2016 11:28 AM
#308
dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. This nigga made a MAL account to respond to this thread, LOL~ The vast majority of people who fap to cartoons are people who just enjoy fapping to cartoons. And EVERYONE who plays COD or GTA is a pleb. Thought I'd try it once, too~♡ I don't do either, but I'd say there's a big difference in jerking it to anime women and jerking it to anime little girls. Difference between what you and I said is playing a video game=/=being a pleb, but enjoying seeing naked little girls in their underwear (if you've gone through puberty)=being a pedophile. Lol I actually created an account to ask for anime suggestions, I just stumbled across this first. Fapping to 2D anything implies attraction to said 2D thing. Fapping to something in real life implies attraction to said real life thing. It really does follow the same logic as video game violence =/=real world violence. |
Apr 24, 2016 11:39 AM
#309
dim_benes said: -The vast majority of people who fapping to loli have never raped someone and don't desire to, it's just a anime they enjoy.-The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who fapping to NTR have never kidnapped/raped someone and don't desire to, it's just a hentai they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play Doom have never killed zombie... Wait, it's not real. Yet people still bitching about it. Prove me wrong. Come on. People have been fapping to such things for years, there must be a lot of cases. That is if you're right, of course. |
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Apr 24, 2016 11:41 AM
#310
l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. This nigga made a MAL account to respond to this thread, LOL~ The vast majority of people who fap to cartoons are people who just enjoy fapping to cartoons. And EVERYONE who plays COD or GTA is a pleb. Thought I'd try it once, too~♡ I don't do either, but I'd say there's a big difference in jerking it to anime women and jerking it to anime little girls. Difference between what you and I said is playing a video game=/=being a pleb, but enjoying seeing naked little girls in their underwear (if you've gone through puberty)=being a pedophile. Lol I actually created an account to ask for anime suggestions, I just stumbled across this first. Fapping to 2D anything implies attraction to said 2D thing. Fapping to something in real life implies attraction to said real life thing. It really does follow the same logic as video game violence =/=real world violence. People play violent video games not because they enjoy killing people or stealing cars in real life, but because of the mental stimulation of competing. Competing against other people or against the "computer." In real life, risking jail time or taking someone's life isn't desirable for the vast majority of these players. People jerk off to animated little girls' bodies because they are sexually turned on by a little girl's body. It's animated, but it looks the exact same. In real life, they see little girls and are sexually aroused by them. kitsune0 said: dim_benes said: -The vast majority of people who fapping to loli have never raped someone and don't desire to, it's just a anime they enjoy.-The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who fapping to NTR have never kidnapped/raped someone and don't desire to, it's just a hentai they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play Doom have never killed zombie... Wait, it's not real. Yet people still bitching about it. Prove me wrong. Come on. People have been fapping to such things for years, there must be a lot of cases. That is if you're right, of course. Yep, everything you said is true. However: Pedophile: a person who is sexually attracted to children. If you look closely, you won't see the word "rape" anywhere in the definition. Being a pedophile has nothing to so with whether or not you have raped a child (although sadly many have), you're a pedophile if you feel sexual attraction towards a child. Mod edit: Merged posts. Please don't double post. |
ArdanazApr 24, 2016 12:52 PM
Apr 24, 2016 11:51 AM
#311
dim_benes said: Tell that to feminazis and/or SJWs and they'll eat you alive.Pedophile: a person who is sexually attracted to children. If you look closely, you won't see the word "rape" anywhere in the definition. Being a pedophile has nothing to so with whether or not you have raped a child (although sadly many have), you're a pedophile if you feel sexual attraction towards a child. Yep, everything you said is true. However: Then how in the bloody Hell you can prove that said disgusting lolicons are pedophiles if they never ever molested (as in "inappropriately looked or touched") any child? How I see at from here, it pretty much looks like false accusation. |
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Apr 24, 2016 11:57 AM
#312
dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. This nigga made a MAL account to respond to this thread, LOL~ The vast majority of people who fap to cartoons are people who just enjoy fapping to cartoons. And EVERYONE who plays COD or GTA is a pleb. Thought I'd try it once, too~♡ I don't do either, but I'd say there's a big difference in jerking it to anime women and jerking it to anime little girls. Difference between what you and I said is playing a video game=/=being a pleb, but enjoying seeing naked little girls in their underwear (if you've gone through puberty)=being a pedophile. Lol I actually created an account to ask for anime suggestions, I just stumbled across this first. Fapping to 2D anything implies attraction to said 2D thing. Fapping to something in real life implies attraction to said real life thing. It really does follow the same logic as video game violence =/=real world violence. People play violent video games not because they enjoy killing people or stealing cars in real life, but because of the mental stimulation of competing. Competing against other people or against the "computer." In real life, risking jail time or taking someone's life isn't desirable for the vast majority of these players. People jerk off to animated little girls' bodies because they are sexually turned on by a little girl's body. It's animated, but it looks the exact same. In real life, they see little girls and are sexually aroused by them. And screwing kids is not a particularly popular pass time for the vast majority of 2D lovers. In fact, screwing pretty much anyone is not much of a pass time. #4EVERALONE Anime looks just like real life? 4 reelz? Bro, where u liv? And during your travels have you happen to come across a fire demon who specializes in explosion magic who goes by the title Megumin~? I'll leave a pic for refernce, so be sure to PM her location, kay? I mean it man, don't lie to me and don't keep her for yourself, I called dibs! |
Apr 24, 2016 12:03 PM
#313
kitsune0 said: dim_benes said: Tell that to feminazis and/or SJWs and they'll eat you alive.Pedophile: a person who is sexually attracted to children. If you look closely, you won't see the word "rape" anywhere in the definition. Being a pedophile has nothing to so with whether or not you have raped a child (although sadly many have), you're a pedophile if you feel sexual attraction towards a child. Yep, everything you said is true. However: Then how in the bloody Hell you can prove that said disgusting lolicons are pedophiles if they never ever molested (as in "inappropriately looked or touched") any child? How I see at from here, it pretty much looks like false accusation. Why are people who are found to be planning criminal activity arrested? They haven't done anything, so they're not criminals, right? Are you honestly saying that you're not a pedophile until you actually touch a child inappropriately? It's all about the mindset: You are a pedophile if you are sexually attracted to little girls. l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. This nigga made a MAL account to respond to this thread, LOL~ The vast majority of people who fap to cartoons are people who just enjoy fapping to cartoons. And EVERYONE who plays COD or GTA is a pleb. Thought I'd try it once, too~♡ I don't do either, but I'd say there's a big difference in jerking it to anime women and jerking it to anime little girls. Difference between what you and I said is playing a video game=/=being a pleb, but enjoying seeing naked little girls in their underwear (if you've gone through puberty)=being a pedophile. Lol I actually created an account to ask for anime suggestions, I just stumbled across this first. Fapping to 2D anything implies attraction to said 2D thing. Fapping to something in real life implies attraction to said real life thing. It really does follow the same logic as video game violence =/=real world violence. People play violent video games not because they enjoy killing people or stealing cars in real life, but because of the mental stimulation of competing. Competing against other people or against the "computer." In real life, risking jail time or taking someone's life isn't desirable for the vast majority of these players. People jerk off to animated little girls' bodies because they are sexually turned on by a little girl's body. It's animated, but it looks the exact same. In real life, they see little girls and are sexually aroused by them. And screwing kids is not a particularly popular pass time for the vast majority of 2D lovers. In fact, screwing pretty much anyone is not much of a pass time. #4EVERALONE Anime looks just like real life? 4 reelz? Bro, where u liv? And during your travels have you happen to come across a fire demon who specializes in explosion magic who goes by the title Megumin~? I'll leave a pic for refernce, so be sure to PM her location, kay? I mean it man, don't lie to me and don't keep her for yourself, I called dibs! Whoa, you posted one example, that's the end all be all! And honestly I'm sure her actual body looks exactly like a little girl's body. You're talking about her clothes, I assume. But looking past the clothes: does she have a body that looks exactly like a prepubescent child's? Yes. Mod edit: Merged posts. Please don't double post. |
ArdanazApr 24, 2016 12:54 PM
Apr 24, 2016 12:12 PM
#314
dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: dim_benes said: How is this even a question? You saw a little girl in an anime scene in her underwear, and then you DELIBERATELY WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE LITTLE GIRL IN HER UNDERWEAR. The COD and GTA things are not relevant comparisons. -The vast majority of people who play COD have never killed someone and don't desire to, it's just a game they enjoy. -The vast majority of people who play GTA have never killed someone/stolen vehicles, it's just a game they enjoy. -EVERYONE who is legal and enjoys seeing little girls in their underwear is a disgusting pedophile. Like someone else said, get some help. This nigga made a MAL account to respond to this thread, LOL~ The vast majority of people who fap to cartoons are people who just enjoy fapping to cartoons. And EVERYONE who plays COD or GTA is a pleb. Thought I'd try it once, too~♡ I don't do either, but I'd say there's a big difference in jerking it to anime women and jerking it to anime little girls. Difference between what you and I said is playing a video game=/=being a pleb, but enjoying seeing naked little girls in their underwear (if you've gone through puberty)=being a pedophile. Lol I actually created an account to ask for anime suggestions, I just stumbled across this first. Fapping to 2D anything implies attraction to said 2D thing. Fapping to something in real life implies attraction to said real life thing. It really does follow the same logic as video game violence =/=real world violence. People play violent video games not because they enjoy killing people or stealing cars in real life, but because of the mental stimulation of competing. Competing against other people or against the "computer." In real life, risking jail time or taking someone's life isn't desirable for the vast majority of these players. People jerk off to animated little girls' bodies because they are sexually turned on by a little girl's body. It's animated, but it looks the exact same. In real life, they see little girls and are sexually aroused by them. And screwing kids is not a particularly popular pass time for the vast majority of 2D lovers. In fact, screwing pretty much anyone is not much of a pass time. #4EVERALONE Anime looks just like real life? 4 reelz? Bro, where u liv? And during your travels have you happen to come across a fire demon who specializes in explosion magic who goes by the title Megumin~? I'll leave a pic for refernce, so be sure to PM her location, kay? I mean it man, don't lie to me and don't keep her for yourself, I called dibs! Whoa, you posted one example, that's the end all be all! And honestly I'm sure her actual body looks exactly like a little girl's body. You're talking about her clothes, I assume. But looking past the clothes: does she have a body that looks exactly like a prepubescent child's? Yes. ....did you find her? You didn't pm me or anything! You liar, you had me going for sec. You probably have her locked up in your basement. You do, don't you!? Megumin, matte~! Onee-san's coming to rescue you~! |
Apr 24, 2016 12:13 PM
#315
dim_benes said: No, it's going like that. See: you joined the accusation that lolicon=pedophile. I'm telling you - proofs or GTF0. If one watching/reading lolicon anime/manga but never ever inappropriately looked at or touched a child and doesn't have a collection of real child-porn - how can you proof your accusation? Because all that you said to this point can be summarized in simple "I knew how they are thinking". And if that really the case - than may be you yourself are lolicon, amirite? Because I don't believe in telepathy.Why are people who are found to be planning criminal activity arrested? They haven't done anything, so they're not criminals, right? Are you honestly saying that you're not a pedophile until you actually touch a child inappropriately? It's all about the mindset: You are a pedophile if you are sexually attracted to little girls. |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:16 PM
#316
kitsune0 said: dim_benes said: No, it's going like that. See: you joined the accusation that lolicon=pedophile. I'm telling you - proofs or GTF0. If one watching/reading lolicon anime/manga but never ever inappropriately looked at or touched a child and doesn't have a collection of real child-porn - how can you proof your accusation? Because all that you said to this point can be summarized in simple "I knew how they are thinking". And if that really the case - than may be you yourself are lolicon, amirite? Because I don't believe in telepathy.Why are people who are found to be planning criminal activity arrested? They haven't done anything, so they're not criminals, right? Are you honestly saying that you're not a pedophile until you actually touch a child inappropriately? It's all about the mindset: You are a pedophile if you are sexually attracted to little girls. ...So you're asking me for evidence that someone who finds the bodies of little girls attractive is a pedophile? Okay, here: Pedophile: a person who is sexually attracted to children. |
Apr 24, 2016 12:21 PM
#317
kitsune0 said: may be you yourself are lolicon, amirite? Because I don't believe in telepathy. i think every guy who complains about 2d-drawings and accuse everyone and their mother of being pedos just because they like watching anime like Non Non Biyori are themselves pedo (since they view the characters as attractive enough to warrant criticism) remember how ONU criticized anime drawings from Japan, but ONU officials were caught with real life child porn in their computer |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:21 PM
#318
dim_benes said: That's it - don't see any "unrealistically drawn" in definition here. Well, that's because you're talking about pedophiles, not lolicons. Now let's return to defining what is lolicon. Can you do it? Just to be sure that we're on the same ground and understanding each other....So you're asking me for evidence that someone who finds the bodies of little girls attractive is a pedophile? Okay, here: Pedophile: a person who is sexually attracted to children. |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:21 PM
#319
dim_benes said: And honestly I'm sure her actual body looks exactly like a little girl's body. You're talking about her clothes, I assume. But looking past the clothes: does she have a body that looks exactly like a prepubescent child's? Yes. Megumin is a teenager and no prebubescent kid. She does not even fit the definition of a loli anymore. Even though she's flat chested and does not have oversized boobs as lots of other anime girls with about the same figure she is definitely simply just a teen girl and not a kid. Except she does not have breasts that are bigger than her head. And lolis don't look like real kids at all. Not even from the body type as I wrote above. You could bother and read the stuff I wrote above your first post maybe, but then I doubt it would change your opinion anyway. Which is fine either way for me lol. Also seeing you getting so agitated here. You must be new in the anime community. Welcome! |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:30 PM
#320
*gasp* You pause the panty shots?? how dare u m8?! u fkn pedo bastard! I hope u know ure goin to hell now, the Lord ain't gonna forgive ur sinful doings |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:30 PM
#321
DreamingBeats said: I don't know what you're referring, quick googling "onu+anime" gives me pages in Spanish only, and sadly I don't know a single word in Spanish (Google Translate recognized it as Spanish for me).remember how ONU criticized anime drawings from Japan, but ONU officials were caught with real life child porn in their computer But from what I understand from your message - LoL, we've here got a proverb for that kind of situations, in English it translates as "war of bees against the honey". |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:31 PM
#322
kitsune0 said: dim_benes said: That's it - don't see any "unrealistically drawn" in definition here. Well, that's because you're talking about pedophiles, not lolicons. Now let's return to defining what is lolicon. Can you do it? Just to be sure that we're on the same ground and understanding each other....So you're asking me for evidence that someone who finds the bodies of little girls attractive is a pedophile? Okay, here: Pedophile: a person who is sexually attracted to children. Unrealistically drawn? Looking at everything but the head, lollis have the exact same body type as a little girl: flat chested, small, slender, uncurved. Losig777 said: dim_benes said: And honestly I'm sure her actual body looks exactly like a little girl's body. You're talking about her clothes, I assume. But looking past the clothes: does she have a body that looks exactly like a prepubescent child's? Yes. Megumin is a teenager and no prebubescent kid. She does not even fit the definition of a loli anymore. Even though she's flat chested and does not have oversized boobs as lots of other anime girls with about the same figure she is definitely simply just a teen girl and not a kid. Except she does not have breasts that are bigger than her head. And lolis don't look like real kids at all. Not even from the body type as I wrote above. You could bother and read the stuff I wrote above your first post maybe, but then I doubt it would change your opinion anyway. Which is fine either way for me lol. Also seeing you getting so agitated here. You must be new in the anime community. Welcome! Okay, then why talk about her in the first place? Lolis don't look like little kids? I mean, minus the oversized head, they have the exact same flatchested, small, slender body type of a little girl. Mod edit: Merged posts. Please don't double post. |
ArdanazApr 24, 2016 12:55 PM
Apr 24, 2016 12:33 PM
#323
kitsune0 said: DreamingBeats said: I don't know what you're referring, quick googling "onu+anime" gives me pages in Spanish only, and sadly I don't know a single word in Spanish (Google Translate recognized it as Spanish for me).remember how ONU criticized anime drawings from Japan, but ONU officials were caught with real life child porn in their computer But from what I understand from your message - LoL, we've here got a proverb for that kind of situations, in English it translates as "war of bees against the honey". my bad, i mixed Portuguese and English. i meant to say UN - United Nations edit: some articles: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/un-says-some-of-its-peacekeepers-were-paying-13-year-olds-for-sex/2016/01/11/504e48a8-b493-11e5-8abc-d09392edc612_story.html https://uk.news.yahoo.com/un-staff-fired-over-child-porn-death-threats-223128878.html |
DreamingBeatsApr 24, 2016 12:40 PM
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Apr 24, 2016 12:36 PM
#324
DreamingBeats said: kitsune0 said: may be you yourself are lolicon, amirite? Because I don't believe in telepathy. i think every guy who complains about 2d-drawings and accuse everyone and their mother of being pedos just because they like watching anime like Non Non Biyori are themselves pedo (since they view the characters as attractive enough to warrant criticism) remember how ONU criticized anime drawings from Japan, but ONU officials were caught with real life child porn in their computer That has to be some of the stupidest logic I've ever heard. I don't view the characters as attractive, I wouldn't be saying anything against pedophiles if I did. I'm criticizing people because THEY view the character as attractive. Understanding someone's opinion is not the same thing as sharing that opinion. |
Apr 24, 2016 12:41 PM
#325
If You don't find this sexy than you're either a homosexual or a woman. |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:49 PM
#326
dim_benes said: Lolis don't look like little kids? I mean, minus the oversized head, they have the exact same flatchested, small, slender body type of a little girl. Let me ask you one question? Does preferring small breasts or flat chestes girls make you pedophile? Probably not. Alright: Another question. Does liking small and slender girls make you a pedophile? Probably neither. You see you could look up google images. Things like "loli swimsuit" . Lolis are not like real kids if you just look at their body. They have all the attraction points of real girls, like small and slender and flat chested girls. Pretty much miniature size versions of them. Their figures do not equal figures of real kids. Some even have slight breasts or butts that usually only develop during pubberty. Real kids don't have these female attraction points at all which is why the average male doesn't get attracted to children, because the female attraction points are missing. Which lolis still have though. And personality wise they are usually not like real children either. Some are like: incredibly mature whereas others are almost like cute animals instead of actual persons. You could pretty much say they are "creatures" that just do not exist in real life like that which is why the pedophile debate is just not really fitting. As long as they don't go and get aroused looking at grade schoolers they're not pedophiles. There is nothing that's like anime lolis in real life. |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:54 PM
#327
Losig777 said: dim_benes said: Lolis don't look like little kids? I mean, minus the oversized head, they have the exact same flatchested, small, slender body type of a little girl. Let me ask you one question? Does preferring small breasts or flat chestes girls make you pedophile? Probably not. Alright: Another question. Does liking small and slender girls make you a pedophile? Probably neither. You see you could look up google images. Things like "loli swimsuit" . Lolis are not like real kids if you just look at their body. They have all the attraction points of real girls, like small and slender and flat chested girls. Pretty much miniature size versions of them. Their figures do not equal figures of real kids. Some even have slight breasts or butts that usually only develop during pubberty. Real kids don't have these female attraction points at all which is why the average male doesn't get attracted to children, because the female attraction points are missing. Which lolis still have though. And personality wise they are usually not like real children either. Some are like: incredibly mature whereas others are almost like cute animals instead of actual persons. You could pretty much say they are "creatures" that just do not exist in real life like that which is why the pedophile debate is just not really fitting. As long as they don't go and get aroused looking at grade schoolers they're not pedophiles. There is nothing that's like anime lolis in real life. Definitely nothing wrong with girls with smaller breasts. But there's a difference between flat chested/slender and pre-pubescent. Lolis literally have nothing there. The ones that do have some sort of ass or tits are not loli. Maturity. Right. I'm sure that's what guys are thinking about when they're jacking off to lolis. |
Apr 24, 2016 1:05 PM
#328
shadowchild23 said: LoL, I was just thinking about posting something like this:I hope u know ure goin to hell now, the Lord ain't gonna forgive ur sinful doings "God hates fags" is not trendy anymore. Now "God hates lolicons" is all the rage! dim_benes said: Lordgenome is not amused:Unrealistically drawn? Looking at everything but the head, lollis have the exact same body type as a little girl: flat chested, small, slender, uncurved. Little girls, as well little boys, are usually quite plump, that can be especially noticeable in cheeks. God, there is even a special adjective for it - "cherubic", it's the typical characteristic of children. And children that are not plump are not slender either - they are skinny, as in "looking sick/unhealthy". But oh well, that's just the ultimate proof that you re just another basement dweller that rarely goes outside. dim_benes said: Same thing here, BTW.Understanding someone's opinion is not the same thing as sharing that opinion. |
kitsune0Apr 24, 2016 1:16 PM
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Apr 24, 2016 1:15 PM
#329
What @Losig777 said about personality is pretty accurate. most anime that sexualized lolis don't have them act like children. Pedophilia is condemned partly because children are unable to make decisions that are in their best interest, like a romantic relationship. Some hentai can be iffy tho, especially if it's rapey |
Apr 24, 2016 1:15 PM
#330
kitsune0 said: shadowchild23 said: LoL, I was just thinking about posting something like this:I hope u know ure goin to hell now, the Lord ain't gonna forgive ur sinful doings "God hates fags" is not trendy anymore. Now "God hates lolicons" is all the rage! dim_benes said: Lordgenome is not amused:Unrealistically drawn? Looking at everything but the head, lollis have the exact same body type as a little girl: flat chested, small, slender, uncurved. Little girls, as well little boys, are usually quite plump, that can be especially noticeable in cheeks. God, there is even a special adjective for it - "cherubic", it's the typical characteristic of children. But oh well, that's just the ultimate proof that you re just another basement dweller that rarely goes outside. dim_benes said: Same thing here, BTW.Understanding someone's opinion is not the same thing as sharing that opinion. That happens often with people who I argue with on the internet when they're running out of things to say. With virtually no evidence, they make a desperate hard read on the type of person I am (basement dweller, never going to accomplish anything, etc.). It never works :( I didn't think I'd have to actually explain this, but lolis are not modeled after those types of children. There exist little kids who are very skinny in the sense that they do not have the curves you generally see on women, and a chest that is undeveloped. |
Apr 24, 2016 1:20 PM
#331
dim_benes said: Definitely nothing wrong with girls with smaller breasts. But there's a difference between flat chested/slender and pre-pubescent. Lolis literally have nothing there. The ones that do have some sort of ass or tits are not loli. Well I think there is a difference. The whole figure itself which is pretty much a way smaller, more modellike appearance. Just without breasts and weight. For me it does not exactly look like real children. They are just drawn in a way that is really off from real life children. An example that's not too much nsfw: This is supposed to be prepubescent yet it doesn't look like that for me. So while I still see your point and can see that you can't see any attraction in them and that for you they resemble real children way too much, for me at least and I think I'm not alone here they resemble more like "fun sized" slender girls that don't bear much resemblance to real little kids. |
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Apr 24, 2016 1:27 PM
#333
dim_benes said: 0hh, you poor thing, come here, I'll comfort you... not.That happens often with people who I argue with on the internet when they're running out of things to say. With virtually no evidence, they make a desperate hard read on the type of person I am (basement dweller, never going to accomplish anything, etc.). It never works :( I didn't think I'd have to actually explain this, but lolis are not modeled after those types of children. There exist little kids who are very skinny in the sense that they do not have the curves you generally see on women, and a chest that is undeveloped. And now, lo & behold, ladies, gentlemen & trolls, this person starting to wriggle as a worm on hook and trying to avoid his/her fall claiming "but that wasn't what I meant!" and trying to turn his so-called "proofs" to minority. It never works. :-) |
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Apr 24, 2016 1:32 PM
#334
All I know is, these Lolis call me senpai. |
Ecchi till I die all these Lolis call me senpai Rubbing on her thighs, she stay wet for her senpai Shawty so kawaii, and would die for her senpai Ride, and watch hentai, all the time with senpai |
Apr 24, 2016 1:41 PM
#335
kitsune0 said: dim_benes said: 0hh, you poor thing, come here, I'll comfort you... not.That happens often with people who I argue with on the internet when they're running out of things to say. With virtually no evidence, they make a desperate hard read on the type of person I am (basement dweller, never going to accomplish anything, etc.). It never works :( I didn't think I'd have to actually explain this, but lolis are not modeled after those types of children. There exist little kids who are very skinny in the sense that they do not have the curves you generally see on women, and a chest that is undeveloped. And now, lo & behold, ladies, gentlemen & trolls, this person starting to wriggle as a worm on hook and trying to avoid his/her fall claiming "but that wasn't what I meant!" and trying to turn his so-called "proofs" to minority. It never works. :-) Confusing. Why would I need comforting? I said that it never works when people try to get a hard read on my personality, and it never works. In other words, they completely fail to figure out who I am, and it's actually kinda funny. I've meant everything I've said. I said "I never thought I'd have to explain this" because it's really obvious that they are not modeled after the type of children you describe. You won't find any girl who has gone through puberty with a body as pre-pubescent as a loli girl's. |
Apr 25, 2016 6:51 AM
#336
I don't find that sexy cause it looks like a fucking 7yr old.... |
Apr 25, 2016 8:04 AM
#337
Battlechili said: lolis are not the same as real children. No, you are not a pedophile for liking lolis. 2D != 3D, because there's a HUGE difference in the transition between the two. Just because you like lolis doesn't mean you'd like real children. No way they're totally the same thing. Anime people look just like real humans. Huuu mmannnzzzzz Dementedkaliber said: But you're in the UK, when i type loli into google in the US, i don't get that ad at the top. Your in one of the worst countries for anecdotal evidence. I think only Australia is more strict. I hate any country that can legally jail people for the crime of lolicon. It should be totally illegal theres no true legal or factual grounds for it beyond ignorant ill informed emotional outburst. Child laws are there to protect real children from harm. Distribution and ownership of actual child pornography caries jail time for OBVIOUS reasons but jailed for anime pictures of school girls has no true bearing in law till some jumped up countries bypassed it to increase their child molester capture numbers. Thats the only reason they did it. You can't just jail people for drawings of anime characters with no legal birth or age. When a judge has to eye ball and make a judgement of a fake 2d none humans age to judge someones guilt you have a big fucking legal loophole issue. They jail people on the basis that if they like lolicon they MIGHT go onto harm real children. Yes you heard me correctly. People are been legally jailed based on assumed age of a fake drawing and a judgement of pre crime. Against all the scientific and psychologist findings showing their is no solid connection proof of connection that lolicon are the same as real pedo or lead to real pedophilia. What the courts have done is on the same level as deciding to jail all people who are furies because they do sex things sometimes in their fur suits and that makes them guilty of real life bestiality. Or if courts are winging it with making up ages for people that don't exist. Why don't we jail anyone who watches porn where the porn star wears a sexy school girl outfit. Shes perfectly legal but shes imitating someone younger by wearing that outfit therefor the viewer is a pedo in waiting. Its exactly, the same thing. Its all kinds of fucked up and should be illegal doing this kind of just wing it, use your judgement, no evidence, pre-crime jailment. People are been put in jail with real bad people on bogus false charges and made up assumptions. I loved the law but seeing bullshit like this made me lose love for the system. They should by all true rights have no real legal ground for this kind of thing. Its like a world where people really were jailed for enjoying violent video games because somebody decided that they can be classed the same as owning real snuff entertainment. You know....crazy world. |
SpooksApr 25, 2016 8:32 AM
Apr 25, 2016 8:45 AM
#338
Spooks said: This is already a law in Russia. Nobody been jailed for that, but it's just a matter of time.Why don't we jail anyone who watches porn where the porn star wears a sexy school girl outfit. Shes perfectly legal but shes imitating someone younger by wearing that outfit therefor the viewer is a pedo in waiting. Its exactly, the same thing. |
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Apr 25, 2016 9:08 AM
#339
ExTamplier said: You know how sometimes anime include scenes where a loli is seen in underwear only, or in a bath scene pretty much naked. If you rewind an episode and pause to take a better look, does this mean you are a pedophile? It's hard to say really... I'd say it's a pretty grey area just because it's drawn, so technically it's not even a child at all, there's nothing there to be exploited. Child laws like that are made to keep children from getting exploited and there's nothing there that's getting hurt. On the other hand, if you find something sexually stimulating about seeing what is depicted as an 8 or 10 year old child then I would say there's something a little strange about it. I mean, as long as you're not hurting an actual human child, I don't really care and neither should anyone else. Honestly I do hate loli pandering anime, and I extremely despise the loli trope overall, but your question wasn't asking for an opinion on how I felt about it so that's a story for a different time. |
Apr 25, 2016 9:25 AM
#340
I kind of equate it to rape fantasy. A lot of people are into that, and yet, would never want to get raped nor would ever rape. |
Apr 25, 2016 9:41 AM
#341
kitsune0 said: Spooks said: This is already a law in Russia. Nobody been jailed for that, but it's just a matter of time.Why don't we jail anyone who watches porn where the porn star wears a sexy school girl outfit. Shes perfectly legal but shes imitating someone younger by wearing that outfit therefor the viewer is a pedo in waiting. Its exactly, the same thing. I was about to write how hilariously stupid that is, when it hit me that it's actually more reasonable than banning lolis. Then again I believe it's both illegal in russia, so that's that. |
Apr 25, 2016 9:46 AM
#342
Apr 25, 2016 10:11 AM
#343
Coxerspaniel said: Yes, as reasonable as later banning all hentai as "pedophilic pornography". So not only lolis, but milfs also.I was about to write how hilariously stupid that is, when it hit me that it's actually more reasonable than banning lolis. Then again I believe it's both illegal in russia, so that's that. |
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Apr 25, 2016 10:24 AM
#344
Doyadaso said: Hehe :D Choose your own loli ^^ Then you wont be pedo, but anyway. I guess its kinda strange but 70% of boys did that and i can say honestly everyone have been pedos onece, if no they will be :D I feel as though the first one is really the only "loli". I mean, I can be into a guy is very feminine, but that doesn't mean that I want to be with a woman. Someone who is geared toward that archetype doesn't necessarily meet that standard. |
Apr 25, 2016 12:29 PM
#345
On the surface it would seem that way...but I am about to say something pretty controversial, so here we go. Personally, I wouldn't say it makes someone a pedophile. At that point. They'd have the potential to become one, so they have pedophilic tendencies, but are not yet a full blown pedophile. Somewhat similar to how a murderer is not a murderer until they actually kill somebody (yes, I know they are two completely different things, but that's the analogy I'm going with). Then there's the whole anime thing. Loli's are animated characters, with many being made to appeal to a niche audience or certain fetishists. I've heard quite a few people say that the whole Loli thing appeals to their fantasist nature and they are not at all attracted to children irl. Different strokes for different folks I guess. |
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Apr 25, 2016 12:36 PM
#346
Apr 25, 2016 8:00 PM
#347
Apr 25, 2016 8:27 PM
#348
dim_benes said: Ahri said: ExTamplier said: You know how sometimes anime include scenes where a loli is seen in underwear only, or in a bath scene pretty much naked. If you rewind an episode and pause to take a better look, does this mean you are a pedophile? It's hard to say really... I'd say it's a pretty grey area just because it's drawn, so technically it's not even a child at all, there's nothing there to be exploited. Child laws like that are made to keep children from getting exploited and there's nothing there that's getting hurt. On the other hand, if you find something sexually stimulating about seeing what is depicted as an 8 or 10 year old child then I would say there's something a little strange about it. I mean, as long as you're not hurting an actual human child, I don't really care and neither should anyone else. Honestly I do hate loli pandering anime, and I extremely despise the loli trope overall, but your question wasn't asking for an opinion on how I felt about it so that's a story for a different time. "As long as you're not hurting an actual human child, I don't really care and neither should anyone else." See, this guy gets it! Just like Jared from subway. Sure, he had some child pornography, but hey, he's not hurting them, right? The difference is that he actual had CHILD porn, not drawings. To make this comparison is ridiculous, and foolish. When graphic processing and AI gets better, as well as advancements in virtual reality, we will be able to create worlds and videos of many things that aren't possible now. This includes things like hyper-realistic child porn that doesn't cost actual children, as well as things like hyper realistic murder porn that doesn't cost human lives, and even robot sex-servants that can be designed to be children (although these won't be as popular as very attractive adult robots). These things are going to become more and more common, and people are going to have to accept the change. If there is no victim, there is no crime, and these things will give outlets for the people who suffer from pedophilia etc. so that they won't need to act them out in the real world. It will actually stifle child molestation. The type of person who watches loli is not going to be the type of person that watches actual child porn. You will see this more clearly when simulated child porn becomes more common, and the people who watch it won't be the Otaku's watching Loli stuff. |
Ecchi till I die all these Lolis call me senpai Rubbing on her thighs, she stay wet for her senpai Shawty so kawaii, and would die for her senpai Ride, and watch hentai, all the time with senpai |
Apr 25, 2016 10:06 PM
#349
dim_benes said: Ahri said: ExTamplier said: You know how sometimes anime include scenes where a loli is seen in underwear only, or in a bath scene pretty much naked. If you rewind an episode and pause to take a better look, does this mean you are a pedophile? It's hard to say really... I'd say it's a pretty grey area just because it's drawn, so technically it's not even a child at all, there's nothing there to be exploited. Child laws like that are made to keep children from getting exploited and there's nothing there that's getting hurt. On the other hand, if you find something sexually stimulating about seeing what is depicted as an 8 or 10 year old child then I would say there's something a little strange about it. I mean, as long as you're not hurting an actual human child, I don't really care and neither should anyone else. Honestly I do hate loli pandering anime, and I extremely despise the loli trope overall, but your question wasn't asking for an opinion on how I felt about it so that's a story for a different time. "As long as you're not hurting an actual human child, I don't really care and neither should anyone else." See, this guy gets it! Just like Jared from subway. Sure, he had some child pornography, but hey, he's not hurting them, right? Well... I mean technically Jared just fooled teenage girls to send him those pictures. Teenagers. They aren't exactly children, it's one of the laws I have always thought was a little strange. I met my husband when I was 16 and he was 20, and when he found out that I was 16, he would barely talk to me. I think the real crime Jared committed was not being faithful honestly. |
Apr 25, 2016 10:56 PM
#350
Ahri said: Well... I mean technically Jared just fooled teenage girls to send him those pictures. Teenagers. They aren't exactly children, it's one of the laws I have always thought was a little strange. I met my husband when I was 16 and he was 20, and when he found out that I was 16, he would barely talk to me. I think the real crime Jared committed was not being faithful honestly. What? That's not what happened. I forgot his name but that one guy he associates with sent him videos of girls undressing (they were like 12 or something iirc) as they were secretly videotaped. The guy was an idiot and would send that stuff to just about anyone which is how he got caught and got Jared in trouble. So jared got charged with that as well as him paying for sex from a teenager. kitsune0 said: Spooks said: This is already a law in Russia. Nobody been jailed for that, but it's just a matter of time.Why don't we jail anyone who watches porn where the porn star wears a sexy school girl outfit. Shes perfectly legal but shes imitating someone younger by wearing that outfit therefor the viewer is a pedo in waiting. Its exactly, the same thing. Im pretty sure I recall hearing ALL porn of any sort is illegal in russia technically but its not really enforced. |
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