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| I personally don't mind a bit of fanservice, as long as they don't overdo it like they did in Highschool of the dead. |
otakubloodshed-3 said: I personally don't mind a bit of fanservice, as long as they don't overdo it like they did in Highschool of the dead. Highschool of the dead was good because of that fanservice. |
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| Why would I want to see cartoon boobs and panties.... I wanna see fights/action or plot. If you want to watch porn, you should just watch porn. Its way more time effective. |
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| I don't mind a bit of fanservice. It's okay when it's used for comedic purposes, but I have a problem with it when it becomes the focal point of an episode or series. |
| eh in my opinion I think fanservice doesn't let you focus on the characters, conflict(heck if they were a conflict on a fanservice) and other important stuff!!! it just makes u say " oh look damn shes asking him to lick her chest from the icecream that fell on her" |
| There is no such thing as "shitty" anime, it just ain't your kind of taste! |
| Nothing wrong is with fanservice when its done right. |
| I don't have a problem with the idea of fanservice. If there is a lot of fanservice in a silly harem show or something like that then it doesn't bother me. It's when it's in an anime that's supposed to be serious that it becomes a problem. I can't take your characters seriously when you're constantly showing us their panties. Also, when you've watched 20 shows where the MC falls over and grabs a titty it starts to get a bit boring. |
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Zymf said: It's pretty tough to carve out some good plot / seriousness between "lot of panty shots and big boobs" scenes. How do you do that? Give three examples of high quality titles with lot of panty shots. I always hear one-liners about how fanservice is a neutral component but i never get some examples.Why do people always have to complain about fanservice? I don't se whats wrong with a lot of panty shots and big boobs (unless you find them disgusting/ugly for some odd reason). If you think a show lacks other things such as a good plot / seriousness, then complain about those things instead -.- Your thoughts? |
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irrols said: Zymf said: It's pretty tough to carve out some good plot / seriousness between "lot of panty shots and big boobs" scenes. How do you do that? Give three examples of high quality titles with lot of panty shots. I always hear one-liners about how fanservice is a neutral component but i never get some examples.Why do people always have to complain about fanservice? I don't se whats wrong with a lot of panty shots and big boobs (unless you find them disgusting/ugly for some odd reason). If you think a show lacks other things such as a good plot / seriousness, then complain about those things instead -.- Your thoughts? First off, just because something isn't centered around plot, it doesn't mean its bad. Second, Just because there isn't sexual fanservice in a show that is centered around plot, it doesn't mean that it doesn't have fanservice. Third, fanservice can make a show better. |
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irrols said: Air Gear, Desert Punk, Welcome to The NHK, Gantz (though very hated on).... just to name a fewZymf said: It's pretty tough to carve out some good plot / seriousness between "lot of panty shots and big boobs" scenes. How do you do that? Give three examples of high quality titles with lot of panty shots. I always hear one-liners about how fanservice is a neutral component but i never get some examples.Why do people always have to complain about fanservice? I don't se whats wrong with a lot of panty shots and big boobs (unless you find them disgusting/ugly for some odd reason). If you think a show lacks other things such as a good plot / seriousness, then complain about those things instead -.- Your thoughts? |
| I can't take fanservice seriously and it's detracting at times. I'm not convinced fanservice is a "bad" thing in itself though. The point of fanservice is to appeal to that "certain" audience, however it doesn't really add anything to the show (or take anything from it, unless presented excessively). For this reason I tend to associate fanservice with mediocre content, in which the producers use to lure in easy viewers. I suppose my argument is that controlled fanservice doesn't make or break a show, but a good series shouldn't need fanservice in the first place to pull in viewers. Therefore I typically see "bad" shows making use of fanservice. |
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irrols said: well maybe not technically but through the whole show they are making a dirty game and playing dirty games and he becomes addicted to dirty pictures, not to mention their love of female anime characters and even undressing his little figurineKillaclown said: Lot of panty shots and big boobs scenes in NHK? Go troll elsewhere.Air Gear, Desert Punk, Welcome to The NHK, Gantz (though very hated on).... just to name a few edit: my point still stands, fan service doesn't equal bad Edit #2: I would also argue the fanservice made NHK better, same with the others I listed (and I dislike shows that rely on ecchi fanservice to but it can and has been done right) |
KillaclownOct 28, 2014 2:34 PM
Killaclown said: Air Gear was really cool, not gonna lie.irrols said: well maybe not technically but through the whole show they are making a dirty game and playing dirty games and he becomes addicted to dirty pictures, not to mention their love of female anime characters and even undressing his little figurineLot of panty shots and big boobs scenes in NHK? Go troll elsewhere. edit: my point still stands, fan service doesn't equal bad Edit #2: I would also argue the fanservice made NHK better, same with the others I listed (and I dislike shows that rely on ecchi fanservice to but it can and has been done right) |
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Milk_is_Special said: Killaclown said: Air Gear was really cool, not gonna lie.well maybe not technically but through the whole show they are making a dirty game and playing dirty games and he becomes addicted to dirty pictures, not to mention their love of female anime characters and even undressing his little figurine edit: my point still stands, fan service doesn't equal bad Edit #2: I would also argue the fanservice made NHK better, same with the others I listed (and I dislike shows that rely on ecchi fanservice to but it can and has been done right) We need more animu about inline skating. That shit is amazing. Might pick up the manga tbh. |
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| I don't care about it even if it is out of place or detracts from the plot. Did we really need that shower scene in Stein's Gate though or the beach episode in Code Geass? Didn't matter much for me and I enjoyed them both. Other times it can be good for comedic relief such as in TTGL. Coming from a guy who likes KissXSis though. |
Because scenes like this exist: That literally defied logic right there. |
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Milk_is_Special said: you sir are alright :pAir Gear was really cool, not gonna lie. M3k4toku said: i'm surprised there isn't a skateboard one, but I guess it might not be as popular in japan as it is here, the manga is pretty good but its becoming more and more unbelievable (you know how the power always has to ramp up) i forgot where i left off but i want to catch back up.We need more animu about inline skating. That shit is amazing. Might pick up the manga tbh. M3k4toku said: would have been funnier if it went through them :pBecause scenes like this exist: That literally defied logic right there. |
Killaclown said: ..but that was what the story was literally revolving around in a serious manner of fashion >_<irrols said: well maybe not technically but through the whole show they are making a dirty game and playing dirty games and he becomes addicted to dirty pictures, not to mention their love of female anime characters and even undressing his little figurineLot of panty shots and big boobs scenes in NHK? Go troll elsewhere. |
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| I personally feel like the biggest problem is that there's too much of it at this point. Even if you aren't looking for it, chances are high that you'll stumble across it because it's shoehorned into almost everything these days. And I specifically chose the word "shoehorned" because it's often implemented in such a way that it can only be described as lazy and out of place. |
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HaXXspetten said: Yeah that was kind of my point, plus there was a lot of "fanservice"but that was what the story was literally revolving around in a serious manner of fashion >_< irrols said: it was in response to this and the troll allegation after I mentioned NHKZymf said: It's pretty tough to carve out some good plot / seriousness between "lot of panty shots and big boobs" scenes. How do you do that? Give three examples of high quality titles with lot of panty shots. I always hear one-liners about how fanservice is a neutral component but i never get some examples.Why do people always have to complain about fanservice? I don't se whats wrong with a lot of panty shots and big boobs (unless you find them disgusting/ugly for some odd reason). If you think a show lacks other things such as a good plot / seriousness, then complain about those things instead -.- Your thoughts? Edit: though now realizing that you may have been agreeing.... my bad if that's the case lol |
M3k4toku said: naru_kotoishi said: "fanservice" and "wrong" do not belong in the same sentence. Milk_is_Special said: NOTHING IS WRONG WITH FANSERVICE!! Uh.... *falls down on knees and cry* |
| Fanservice can be good, but in the moderate manner. For example, Clannad had few fanservice scenes, and they were good because they were funny. If you watch anime, you are bound to find at least a bit of fanservice in every one of them. Problem is when fanservice becomes the main point of the anime. Let's take Higschool of the dead for example. It really, in the end, became "boobs shooting zombies" anime, with no real point in it. Also, Fairy Tail always had it but in the end, in the second season, whole point of anime broke into fanservice, with the traces of comedy. Seriously, drama became lame in it. Nanatsu no Taizai found the great way to implement fanservice without being labeled as useless. Main dude is actually a pervert, so his scenes actually have sense. Mind you, anime is not forcing unreasonable fanservice. This is the example of it. Erza is, in this scene, pretty much only boobs. While this is good for immature boys who drool over it, while throwing another paper towel in their already filled trashcan, for people who are seriously enjoying characters this is just ridiculing her awesomeness.  |
| "Fear is not evil. It tells you what your weakness is. And once you know your weakness, you can become stronger as well as kinder." Gildarts |
| There is nothing wrong with general fanservice. I do, however, have a problem with loli fanservice, it makes me feel quite uncomfortable when watching a show and can totally ruin that show for me. I couldn't even get past the first episode of NGNL because of that panty shot scene, which is sad because loads of you guys say it's a great anime :/ |
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Kungfumaster said: Well tat panty shot only takes like 1,5 second so you should be able to look past it when you blink really slow.There is nothing wrong with general fanservice. I do, however, have a problem with loli fanservice, it makes me feel quite uncomfortable when watching a show and can totally ruin that show for me. I couldn't even get past the first episode of NGNL because of that panty shot scene, which is sad because loads of you guys say it's a great anime :/ |
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Milk_is_Special said: Well tat panty shot only takes like 1,5 second so you should be able to look past it when you blink really slow. I thought fanservice throughout the show?... Anyway it give the rest of the show a weird vibe for me, having just watched a 13- kid get sexualized. |
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Kungfumaster said: Watch any lolli show, and you got just that.Milk_is_Special said: Well tat panty shot only takes like 1,5 second so you should be able to look past it when you blink really slow. I thought fanservice throughout the show?... Anyway it give the rest of the show a weird vibe for me, having just watched a 13- kid get sexualized. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Elaborate please?Kungfumaster said: Watch any lolli show, and you got just that.I thought fanservice throughout the show?... Anyway it give the rest of the show a weird vibe for me, having just watched a 13- kid get sexualized. |
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Kungfumaster said: Well almost all shows that have lollis in it has fan service in it. And when a show exist of only lollis the fanservice has to be put on them (Don't know if I said that correctly but I'm dutch, deal with it) and that was what I was talking about.Milk_is_Special said: Elaborate please.Watch any lolli show, and you got just that. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Well almost all shows that have lollis in it has fan service in it. And when a show exist of only lollis the fanservice has to be put on them (Don't know if I said that correctly but I'm dutch, deal with it) and that was what I was talking about. Oh, I know that. but most don't sexualize their loli characters to the point of making feel uncomfortable. I can deal with a certain amount of sexualization when it comes to lolis. I draw the line when panty shots and the like are involved. |
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| It's not a problem unless it's going into shows where it doesn't belong or isn't justified when it's used. Shinsekai Yori has it as part of their characters growing up, while Strike Witches has it just for the kind of show it is. In both cases there's nothing wrong here. OTOH, there were some awkward camera angles in Ergo Proxy on Re-l that weren't necessarily from Vincent's POV. It's forced in these instances, because usually the fanservice is highlighting Vincent's attraction to Re-l. Now, in the case of something like Shinsekai Yori or Ergo Proxy, some justification is needed for the fanservice. iThink it's also important to distinguish fanservice that's part of the story and fanservice that presents the story. Girl Friends (manga) has fanservice, but considering the subject matter it isn't too unreasonable to call it part of the story. But with, say, Koihime Musou, its subject matter doesn't deal in sexuality but nonetheless fanservice is used as presentation. And like Strike Witches, there's nothing wrong with Koihime Musou's fanservice. I also chose 'lighter' works for this comparison (I wasn't going to limit this to just keep fanservice out of my Fate/Zeros and Mushishis) because even then, fanservice can be out of place. Between Kimikiss and Amagami, for example, the former tells a sweet story while the latter tries to, because its fetishism (among other things) gets in the way of any sincerity and the experience feels cheapened. Fanservice isn't bad, but the way it's used (or misused!) certainly can be. |
Green_D_George said: Erza is, in this scene, pretty much only boobs. While this is good for immature boys who drool over it, while throwing another paper towel in their already filled trashcan, for people who are seriously enjoying characters this is just ridiculing her awesomeness. WTF? Did they make her tits bigger or something? Where I dropped this show she was not that well stacked. |
The female drawings in Fairy Tail are sometimes disproportional. Actually, fanservice needs to chill when their characters are looking disproportional due to their breasts. |
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M3k4toku said: The female drawings in Fairy Tail are sometimes disproportional. Actually, fanservice needs to chill when their characters are looking disproportional due to their breasts. Exactly. That is why I dislike fanservice. It sometimes truly goes out of the plot and common sense. |
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Green_D_George said: But now you're are talking about a certain show. If you're going to hate a whole part of anime just because of one show, you're doing something bad.M3k4toku said: The female drawings in Fairy Tail are sometimes disproportional. Actually, fanservice needs to chill when their characters are looking disproportional due to their breasts. Exactly. That is why I dislike fanservice. It sometimes truly goes out of the plot and common sense. |
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Green_D_George said: How is that ridiculing her awesomeness? I can understand if she was butt naked and fighting a tentacle monster, that would be using fanservice to ridicule her. Simply showing a female character nude isn't degrading. If sexual fanservice is used for the sole purpose of humiliating a specific female character then that is degrading the character. Lucy and Steph from NGNL are prime examples of this. They are butt monkey characters where their main purpose is to be humiliated by losing their clothes for comedy.Fanservice can be good, but in the moderate manner. For example, Clannad had few fanservice scenes, and they were good because they were funny. If you watch anime, you are bound to find at least a bit of fanservice in every one of them. Problem is when fanservice becomes the main point of the anime. Let's take Higschool of the dead for example. It really, in the end, became "boobs shooting zombies" anime, with no real point in it. Also, Fairy Tail always had it but in the end, in the second season, whole point of anime broke into fanservice, with the traces of comedy. Seriously, drama became lame in it. Nanatsu no Taizai found the great way to implement fanservice without being labeled as useless. Main dude is actually a pervert, so his scenes actually have sense. Mind you, anime is not forcing unreasonable fanservice. This is the example of it. Erza is, in this scene, pretty much only boobs. While this is good for immature boys who drool over it, while throwing another paper towel in their already filled trashcan, for people who are seriously enjoying characters this is just ridiculing her awesomeness. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Because she's clearly identified as a giant pair of boobs and tasty thighs. This is not a young girl you see when you watch this, this is a hooker waiting for the next customer.How is that ridiculing her awesomeness? |
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irrols said: So females never take baths? Last time I checked you become naked or semi naked when about to take a bath. You can't expect her to be fully clothed in this instance. Simply going to take a bath means she is hooker? LOL. Also Erza isn't a young girl she is 19 if I remember correctly so she is basically a young adult.DrGeroCreation said: Because she's clearly identified as a giant pair of boobs and tasty thighs. This is not a young girl you see when you watch this, this is a hooker waiting for the next customer.How is that ridiculing her awesomeness? |
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irrols said: most of her outfits are kind of revealing anyways.... at least taking a bath makes senseDrGeroCreation said: Because she's clearly identified as a giant pair of boobs and tasty thighs. This is not a young girl you see when you watch this, this is a hooker waiting for the next customer.How is that ridiculing her awesomeness? |
DrGeroCreation said: Lol i feel bad for you, you just embarassed yourself here, you perfectly proved how much you guys have absolutely no idea what fanservice is, and especially why so much people complain about it. irrols said: So females never take baths? Last time I checked you become naked or semi naked when about to take a bath. You can't expect her to be fully clothed. Simply going to take a bath means she is hooker? LOL. Also Erza isn't a young girl she is 19 if I remember correctly so she is basically a young adult.Because she's clearly identified as a giant pair of boobs and tasty thighs. This is not a young girl you see when you watch this, this is a hooker waiting for the next customer. The question is not about females taking baths, the question is how do you choose to represent it, what do you want the viewer to see? Here's a women taking a bath, and it does not contain any fanservice: "OMG HOW DO YOU DO THAT? LAST TIME I CHECKED I WAS NAKED IN MY BATH!§§" |
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irrols said: dude no one said it wasn't fanservice lol, if anyone should be embarrassed its you, you also equated sexy to being a hooker (even in a bath FFS)snip |
irrols said: Well that character has already submerged in the water while Erza in that pic hasn't as yet. Also my point still stands that bathing involves being nude or semi nude. It doesn't matter if the nudity is shown or not. I never said that picture of Erza was not fanservice but questioned how does that "ridicule" her awesomeness.DrGeroCreation said: Lol i feel bad for you, you just embarassed yourself here, you perfectly proved how much you guys have absolutely no idea what fanservice is, and especially why so much people complain about it. So females never take baths? Last time I checked you become naked or semi naked when about to take a bath. You can't expect her to be fully clothed. Simply going to take a bath means she is hooker? LOL. Also Erza isn't a young girl she is 19 if I remember correctly so she is basically a young adult. The question is not about females taking baths, the question is how do you choose to represent it, what do you want the viewer to see? Here's a women taking a bath, and it does not contain any fanservice: "OMG HOW DO YOU DO THAT? LAST TIME I CHECKED I WAS NAKED IN MY BATH!§§" |
DrGeroCreationOct 30, 2014 4:23 PM
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Killaclown said: You're kinda slow right? It seems you don't understand what's happening here. It's ok, one thing at a time: a hooker can be sexy. Work on this for the next hour.irrols said: dude no one said it wasn't fanservice lol, if anyone should be embarrassed its you, you also equated sexy to being a hooker (even in a bath FFS)snip Ah i just noticed you were the troll claiming NHK is full of fanservice scenes ... right. You're indeed a clown. But clowns are sad. |
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irrols said: yeah but sexy doesn't equal hooker... Killaclown said: You're kinda slow right? It seems you don't understand what's happening here. It's ok, one thing at a time: a hooker can be sexy. Work on this for the next hour.dude no one said it wasn't fanservice lol, if anyone should be embarrassed its you, you also equated sexy to being a hooker (even in a bath FFS) Ah i just noticed you were the troll claiming NHK is full of fanservice scenes ... right. You're indeed a clown. But clowns are sad. did you miss the part where he was addicted to porn (which they showed sexual pics) and through the show is making an adult game? and playing? there was even a scene where they showed the heroine of that game surrounded by tentacles IIRC.... but yeah I guess im just a troll /sarcasm |
DrGeroCreation said: It's hilarious how you're being dishonest hahaha. There's a lot of girls "well endowed" in the anime history, but not all of them are pointedly presenting their huge boobs and thighs in order to provoke arousal among the audience.Claiming a female character is a hooker simply because she is well endowed and about to take a bath is pure stupidity. But this is exactly what a hooker do. To make money. As the anime industry do also. So yes, in this scene she looks like a real hooker because there's absolutely no reason to expose her body parts that much, naked or not. Yes this is fanservice. Yes she looks ridiculous. Yes fanservice is ridiculous. Killaclown said: Pure trolling. Not reading your shit anymore.yeah but sexy doesn't equal hooker... |
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