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Jan 19, 2009 2:52 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This was not your typical hot springs episode. I really liked this. ZNY just improves with each episode. Natori shows his face again, and the pair continue their walking on eggshells and slight duplicities around each other. Am I wrong, or is this the first time that Natsume is outright deceived by the yokai he gives the name back to (Rina?)? Anyway, I was a bit surprised that the yokai he helped came back in such glorious fashion, since I had expected that the spirit was the former. I was especially surprised by this seeming theme with words, and lies. I can't remember if it was so prevalent in the first season, but it definitely struck a chord with Takashi's dream.

Great episode. I really liked it.
Jan 19, 2009 4:51 PM
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i wonder if we'll see the 3 eyed yokai from the end again. think it would be interesting if we did. tho personally i'd prefer to see the man hater from the first season again first ;)

much better hot springs episode than most i've seen, was totally expecting a fanservice heavy filler, glad i was wrong.
Jan 19, 2009 6:09 PM
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heheh. Such repressed sexual tension in this episode. I feel bad for that girl who has a crush on Natsume.

Anyway, great episode. Totally loving the new OP and ED.
Jan 19, 2009 6:20 PM
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Truth be told, I felt no sign of sexual tension present in this episode whatsoever. The series has still been able to capture its amicable, mysterious essence thus far. Indeed the twists at the end along with the play with words satisfied me enough to anticipate the upcoming episodes of the season. Natori continues to leave me curious. Somehow I am slightly expecting him to betray Natsume and take the Book of Friends for himself. Not sure why. I suppose Nyanko-Sensei influenced the thought.

So far ZNY has lived up to its entertaining status. I certainly hope that the end of the series won't be a disappointment unlike many others.
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Jan 19, 2009 6:27 PM
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SisterStrange said:
Truth be told, I felt no sign of sexual tension present in this episode whatsoever.

Natori: Hey, Natsume, want to come to a hot spring with me?

Natori: We've been lying for all of our lives, Natsume. If you ever want to be honest with yourself, come with me.

Natsume: Other people can't see the newt-shaped tatoo on Natori's body. *turns away* I don't know where to look.

Natsume: So I ended my first trip to a hot spring. I headed home feeling slightly uneasy.
Jan 19, 2009 6:36 PM
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[insert yaoi fangirl squeal here]

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was totally expecting a fanservice heavy filler, glad i was wrong.


You were really expecting that from an anime like this? then again, it was a little fanservicy for us girls xD
Jan 19, 2009 11:33 PM
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SisterStrange said:
Natori continues to leave me curious. Somehow I am slightly expecting him to betray Natsume and take the Book of Friends for himself. Not sure why. I suppose Nyanko-Sensei influenced the thought.


I feel the same way, like in any moment he will steal it. I hope if he does steal it, it would be for a good reason.
Anyways, I love this series ^^; It was really funny how Nyako sensei changed his face and attitude when food was mentioned.
I am also happy for the little fanservice for us!!!! I expect more lol
Jan 20, 2009 4:49 AM
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Heh heh I got some BL vibes from this episode too.

Anyway, this episode is special because it shows that kindness may not always be rewarded with kindness, and yet things will eventually find a way to reward a person of a good deed.
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Jan 20, 2009 6:16 AM
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Heh heh I got some BL vibes from this episode too.

Anyway, this episode is special because it shows that kindness may not always be rewarded with kindness, and yet things will eventually find a way to reward a person of a good deed.


yeah, that's a nice way to put it ^^ great episode


Jan 20, 2009 8:13 AM

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at least somekind of reasonable episode ... natsume is still a noob a useless guy but his actor-friend is responsible ..
Jan 20, 2009 1:00 PM
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The beginning with the group of little carriers was hilariously cute, but then when Natsume saw what they were carrying... XD Can't believe the skull turned out to be an incredibly awesome yokai, though. That was quite surprising.

Loved when Natsume and Natori were at the Onsen. Natsume 'not knowing where to look' was too funny. The whole episode reeked of BL~ not that I've a problem with that! ;D When Natori was invited Natsume, the whole way it played out, and when Natori offered Natsume a home. I FFFFF-d at that. "Perhaps we can live together, without pretenses." Oh, Brains Base. You guys really do know how to send a fangirl's mind racing, heh!

I've a feeling that Natsume dreaming more and more about his past will play a big part soon. I felt so sorry for him when he woke up crying. Pretty tragic as well about Natsume's feelings about everyone; that he can't say what he truly wants to feel. Poor kid has no self-confidence. Totally understandable, but still pretty sad. I'm happy for Natsume, that at least he can come to terms with it.
Jan 20, 2009 2:32 PM

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Nice episode and showing more of Natsume childhood which a good insight.
Nyanko-Sensei always providing great comedy XD
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Jan 20, 2009 3:54 PM

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sexual tension? BL? you people disgust me, seriously. at least keep these comments away from such beautiful (and completely pure) anime like Natsume Yuujinchou -.-

loved this episode, and yes i think it's the first time we meet such an ungrateful youkai o.o a nice change, can't expect all of them to be nice and leave in peace. loved Natsume's self monologue at the end. <3
Jan 20, 2009 9:42 PM

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pure anime you say hehe. lets hope so.

that was interesting. it would only make sense that if you help them out they help you too. that was a pretty powerful one too. hehe. karma? maybe.
Jan 21, 2009 4:45 AM
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The return of the buta neko.

That was not your obligatory onsen episode, I guess. Enjoyed it, the next episode seems to be a hilarious one. Can't wait.

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Jan 21, 2009 5:14 AM

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Great, as Natsume always is. Same sort of elegantly simplistic storytelling, with just the right amount of subtlety lying underneath the surface in regards to character development. I'm looking forward to the next one just as much.
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Jan 21, 2009 6:04 AM

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Nice ep.

It is so sad to see Natsume crying over in dreams ;_;
Jan 21, 2009 6:12 AM

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Nice episode. It's the first time Natsume got tricked into giving someone's name back.
Nyanko was hilarious as always, especially when he pushed himself onto the glass ^^
Jan 21, 2009 6:56 AM

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Definitely not your average onsen episode here.

Again, it's emotional (especially since this is the first time in the 2 seasons Natsume was tricked into returning a name), and yet it maintains its very relaxing atmosphere with mystery, and a good amount of comedy that kept me entertained (of course, thanks to Nyanko-sensei).

It really keeps getting better and better. I can't wait to see the next episode.
Jan 21, 2009 7:28 AM

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This was another good episode of ZNY, so far the show is a perfect 3 for 3 in my opinion. Of the three episodes this may have been the best. My favorite part was probably the end of the fight with the bad yokai. It was a big surprise to see the demon at the start of the episode come in to save the day. I would have guessed Natori or Nyannko-sensei would step in to save Natsume instead.

Now that Natori has seen the book's powers it will be interesting to see how he reacts. Like others have suggested I think he will try and take it. I still don't trust his character and think he is using Natsume for another goal.
Jan 21, 2009 11:00 AM

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what an amazing episode, I loved the bridge thing
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Jan 21, 2009 1:36 PM
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Fantastic episode once again, and definitely an unusual yet great onsen episode. And next episode seems awesome too ;)

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Jan 21, 2009 3:52 PM

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Nyanko-sensei has never failed to make me LOL.


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Jan 21, 2009 7:26 PM

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for some reason the blond yokai turns me on every time I see her. She also gives off a feeling of uneasiness when she's around Natsume....like she wants to tell him something but cant.

I actually have mixed feelings about Natori being the "bad" guy. It's true he seems like he's up to no good but in the end he didn't hesitate to risk his own life to save Natsume even though that three eyed yokai ended up saving them both.
Jan 22, 2009 1:19 AM

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Excellent episode. I loved that scene with the "bridge" at the beginning, also totally wasn't expecting to see the yokai actually show up at the end to save Natsume and Natori.

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for some reason the blond yokai turns me on every time I see her. She also gives off a feeling of uneasiness when she's around Natsume....like she wants to tell him something but cant.


Strangely I agree, but I don't know why .... hrrmmm ... I definitely had a quizzical expression on my face when Natsume went to dry her hair.
Jan 22, 2009 5:09 PM

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Loved it. Natsume's development and understanding about lies really made this episode.
Jan 22, 2009 8:02 PM

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Seeing Natsume blush throughout this episode was such a treat.
I'm so glad to see this show again. ;_;

For a second I thought that guy in the preview was Ukitake from Bleach. XD;;

Jan 23, 2009 3:02 AM

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Nyanko-sensei has never failed to make me LOL.

Nyanko-sensei XD The conversation in the coffee shop is my favorite part of this episode.

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Anyway, this episode is special because it shows that kindness may not always be rewarded with kindness, and yet things will eventually find a way to reward a person of a good deed.

Couldn't have said it better.

Jan 23, 2009 12:44 PM

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It was really great (NATORI <3)
Nyanko sensei in onsen was so funny!! I loved it XD
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Jan 23, 2009 4:44 PM
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Awesomeness, next episode looks really fun too!

I have the impression that if this keeps up, season 2 will surpass the first season by far.
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Jan 24, 2009 4:34 AM
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sexual tension? BL? you people disgust me, seriously. at least keep these comments away from such beautiful (and completely pure) anime like Natsume Yuujinchou -.-

loved this episode, and yes i think it's the first time we meet such an ungrateful youkai o.o a nice change, can't expect all of them to be nice and leave in peace. loved Natsume's self monologue at the end. <3


Natsume is a very kind and sensitive person. Sensitivity in a coarse culture is always reduced to sex.

I think the artists and writers who make this show are concerned with money. They probably throw in the homosexual innuendo because they know tons of fangirls will buy the manga and draw ultra-gay doujinshi based on it, whereas if Natsume were less slashable, the company would lose sales.

That doesn't mean the creators have no respect for their characters, just that when one works very hard, more than forty hours a week, making art, one frequently feels that getting paid is more important than artistic ideals.

This happens to writers of female action heroes all the time. They start out trying to make something original, and they end up falling into easily marketable martial-arts sex-goddess cliches, over and over again. And then, they draw the character naked, for money. After the second or third time through the cycle, they get cynical.

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Jan 26, 2009 11:57 AM

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Finally Natsume was tricked by a youkai and of course Natori was there to fan it up a bit.

Natori still makes me suspicious.
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Jan 28, 2009 11:47 PM

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Great episode and I'm glad to see Natori back since I find him a fascinating character. It's like I dunno whether is he a good guy or bad guy thing.

Watching the tiny youkai was fun too!!
Feb 2, 2009 6:22 PM

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Hope we get to see the demon in the end again.
Feb 9, 2009 10:08 PM

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Natsume was absolutely adorable this episode.
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Mar 12, 2009 4:22 PM

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It was REALLY amazing. Ok, I know this is a pure anime, but I can't avoid to the dirty thoughts TxT!! I want more of Natsume. And, yes, it's sad to see to Natsume crying because he's a really good person :(.
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Truth be told, I felt no sign of sexual tension present in this episode whatsoever.

Natori: Hey, Natsume, want to come to a hot spring with me?

Natori: We've been lying for all of our lives, Natsume. If you ever want to be honest with yourself, come with me.

Natsume: Other people can't see the newt-shaped tatoo on Natori's body. *turns away* I don't know where to look.

Natsume: So I ended my first trip to a hot spring. I headed home feeling slightly uneasy.


On the sub I saw he said "come to me" and it made me jump a little, lol! It made me think of an episode of "Queer as Folk".

I agree with people who think this is intentional, but I disagree that it "dirty's" the series in any way.

Anyone who wants a series like this with BL vibes should watch "Tactics"-much more obvious yet you can still watch it with your kids.
Jun 2, 2009 6:33 AM

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Natsume sometimes is too naive~ lols xD


Jun 14, 2009 11:31 PM

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I loved this episode, especially the BL moments (suck it up, haters!).

I was so creeped out by that yokai hanging from the ceiling. sent me chills >.<
Jun 23, 2009 3:00 AM

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It had BL moments in them alright.
Jul 11, 2009 10:20 PM

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Nice episode, glad to see some interaction with Natori. Very relaxing as always even with the youkai who tricked him though which was interesting.
Jul 12, 2009 2:16 PM
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One of the first Hot spring anime episodes I've seen without loads of fanservice 8D
...I loved it! :D

Natsume and Natori look like brothers ><
Aug 13, 2009 12:52 PM

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I really liked this episode. I'm loving the sexual tension between Natsume and Notori.

Sep 29, 2009 11:18 PM

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I <3 Nyako-sensei! Madara thought process is so funny!

Madara { This guy never fails to come off as shady as hell.
Madara { Natsume, want me to eat him?

*LOL*

Shuuichi{ Before I forget, the inn allows pets.

Madara { What?!
Madara { Let's go Natsume! Eggs, eggs, Hot Spring EGGS!
Madara { Natsume, Tamago! Nya...nya...nya...

(just cause it's fun to add the reaction in japanese)

{ Nani!?
{ Ikuzou Natsume! Tamago, Tamago, ONSEN Tamago!
{ Natsume, Tamago nya... nya... nya...

{ なに!?
{ いくぞー, 夏目! 玉子、玉子、温泉玉子!
{ 夏目、玉子!。。。にゃ。。。にゃ。。。にゃ。。。

*ROTFL*
Jan 8, 2010 3:35 AM

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shirtless Natsume = do want
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This episode makes me wanna take a vacation..
all in all so far ZNY is great, im loving it as much as if not slightly more so than the first series! The youkai appearing now seem to be getting stronger. Im still suspicious of natori-san, suggestions by nyanko-sensei and the scene from the first series where he entered that dark room and the fact that he already deceived him this episode make him a very shady character to me.
Jan 12, 2010 7:48 AM
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Haha, I need to make a comment for this episode. Totally great! My, what was Natsume looking at Natori's tattoo moving down his back in the hot springs? Hahaha, sooo suspicious. Fanservice episode, I totally loved it. Those two get along so well, even if they don't agree about some things concerning Youkais and have their own secrets. Oh, and Natori saying for Natsume to look for him when he gets tired of lying about his ability was so great! It was very interesting to see Natsume being tricked for the very first time as well! And the big Youkai from the very start appearing to save him was really a surprise for me. Well, I just loved this episode, Natori has such an amazing presence, he always makes the episode very interesting and different. I wish I could see more from him. ♥
Jan 14, 2010 8:16 AM

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This is going to be one of my favorite episodes this series. Its seems that Natsume will soon want to tell his guardians about him seeing yukai. And I was surprised that spirit deceived Natsume. That was unexpected.

But I'm glad that the Spirit that Natsume helped earlier made a gran entrance and saved them. That was the best part in my opinion. I hope see him again soon.
Jan 29, 2010 7:14 AM

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Natsume is so cute when he blushes *w*
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I enjoyed this episode very much~ especially those yaoi vibes! ^^
For the first time, Natsume got betrayed :o that surprised me... Then this means that this series doesn't only teach us that kindness is always rewarded with kindness ;)

That japanese doll looking youkai really creeps me out!! That body hanging on the ceiling... the suggestion of the head in that pot... a rumbling pot in your room...O_O

And I thought that Natori-san was going to ask him questions about the Book of Friends afterwards?
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